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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-03-13

---Logopened Thu Mar 13 00:00:00 2014
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00:00<BlueG>So I found that I can get GTK apps to use xim instead, which seemed great at first. But then I realized that GTK also provided Ctrl + Shift + u <hex>, which is also handy. By using xim, I've lost the ability to put in arbitrary unicode characters.
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00:01<BlueG>Is there a good way to have both?
---Logopened Thu Mar 13 00:57:14 2014
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---Logclosed Thu Mar 13 01:04:39 2014
---Logopened Thu Mar 13 01:05:33 2014
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01:15<ila_korea>Trust between samba-AD, I Expenrienced an issue on working. After using the net rpc trustdom add were used net rpc trustdom establish commend, the following error occurs.
01:16<ila_korea>resolve_name: unkown name switch type lmhost
01:16<ila_korea>coludn't find domin controller for domain
01:16<ila_korea>help me please
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01:40<arman>dangdut
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01:40<arman>\
01:41<maferv>finally I couldn't compile Amaya on Wheezy, SynrG
01:41<maferv>there were all sorts of problems with the dated libraries such as libwww and I decided to do something better with my time
01:41<maferv>to take a peek at Amaya, a dirty workaround is to use the official Amaya's .deb (instaling it with --ignore-depends=libssl0.9.8) and also getting libssl.so.0.9.8 and libcrypto.so.0.9.8 from Squeeze
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02:49<so142001>dpkg
02:49<so142001>hi
02:49<so142001>dpkg help
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02:50<so142001>!ask
02:50<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
02:52<so142001>Anyone here?
02:53<Hum2>No, I am a bot, what is your problem?
02:53<so142001>I was on earlier and I had a problem with my ethernet on debian 6.0.4. I've just installed a squeeze backport, but I don't know what else to do, the ethernet adapter still doesn't power on and doesn't show up in ifconfig
02:53<Hum2>so142001: Did you try ifconfig -a ?
02:54<ila_korea>Debian 7.4 cant trust windows server 2008 r2?
02:54<so142001>hold on, rebooting that server, it's also run out of space, I am thinking of expanding the partition first
02:54<so142001>hold on, brb afk
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02:56<oop-2>exit
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02:56<Doophus>Where can I find a guide to do an unattended installation that will help me set up a network and SSH (tough call I know) using a predefined ssh password etc.? I've got the debian running on my notebook but the screen is failing and there's no way I can see it anymore without ssh (and the installer doesn't go to the VGA).... any ideas? :)
02:56<Doophus>Unattended installation of debian wheezy amd64 of course.
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02:58<jm_>Doophus: you can also install via ssh, you know that, right?
03:00<so142001>Damn, I'm getting another error :(
03:00<Doophus>jm_: Well, I have another notebook in a similar condition, but it hasn't got linux nor SSH. That's why I mean if there was an automated install where it'll automatically install the system
03:01<jm_>Doophus: in that case, look at https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en
03:01<jm_>!preseed
03:01<dpkg>[preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process, to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The <install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding with a full example. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed and http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 . See also <debconf-set-selections>.
03:01<jm_>Doophus: ^^^^^^^^^
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03:01<Doophus>jm_: Thanks! Off to have a read :)
03:01<so142001>I have debian installed on a usb stick, when trying to use gparted, I get this error: "invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sr0"
03:02<jm_>Doophus: you can use putty or mobaterm or ... if your second computer has windows on it
03:02<Hum2>so142001: sr is scsi rom CD/DVD
03:03<Doophus>jm_: Thanks, it hasn't got anything on it... not yet. I need for it to at minimum boot into debian (even on CLI) and that process should be enough for the OS to output to VGA I believe. Fingers crossed :)
03:03<Hum2>so142001: btw how is the network card connected? PCI, USB...?
03:03<so142001>The network card is onboard (motherboard)
03:03<jm_>Doophus: you could test with debian live too
03:03<Doophus>oh?
03:04<jm_>!tell Doophus -about live
03:04<so142001>brb
03:04<Hum2>so142001: Ok, but still it is somehow connected to the other chips, maybe PCI, ISA. Is it activated in the BIOS?
03:04<Hum2>so142001: lspci -v | less or lsusb|less
03:05<Doophus>Perfect. I think the Live solution works well. YIKES! Thanks jm_!
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03:06<jm_>Doophus: no worries
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03:07<so142001>Sorry I got disconnected
03:08<jm_>so142001: lspci -nn|grep Ethernet
03:09<Hum2>so142001: Is the card activated in BIOS? Did you try lspci -v | less or lsusb | less?
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03:09<so142001>http://pastebin.com/vm42s5aJ
03:09<jm_>please use the above lspci command
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03:10<so142001>I can't I'm currently trying to resize my partition on the usb stick first
03:11<jm_>how exactly you can't if you already use lspci but without -nn?
03:11<jm_>used*
03:11<so142001>I've physically got the computer shut down, can't do anything yet till I get the partition extended. I ran out of space. It's a 1.5 gb partition on a 16 gb usb stick
03:13<jm_>,pciid 1969:1083
03:13<judd>[1969:1083] is 'AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with kernel module 'atl1c' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1969:1083
03:13<jm_>I assume that's the one to use, does it not load automatically?
03:13<so142001>dpkg AR8151
03:13<dpkg>The Atheros AR8151 v1.0 Gigabit Ethernet controller (PCI ID 1969:1073) is supported by the <atl1c> driver in Debian linux-image packages since linux-2.6 2.6.32-28 (bug #599771). AR8151 v2.0 (PCI ID 1969:1083) is supported by atl1c since Linux 2.6.36.
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03:20<so142001>brb again, computer trouble
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03:29<so142001>I'm not having much luck tonight
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03:36<so142001>I'm giving up for now, I'm going to try a different usb stick
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03:41<ubuntu-studio>during my ubuntu booting i get a "booting without network configuration", also waits for another 60 seconds .... i googled about that.but couldn't find solution
03:43<jm_>!ubuntuirc ubuntu-studio
03:43<dpkg>ubuntu-studio: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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03:55<voltagex>hi, I have apt-cacher-ng running and previously working on my box, today apt-get hangs at "waiting for headers"
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04:47<Guest3171>how to install a irc server?
04:48<Guest3171>how to install irc server
04:48<jm_>same way you install other packages
04:48<Nik05># computer installl irc server
04:49<Guest3171>the name of package name?
04:49<Nik05>maybe you should do some investigation into irc servers
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04:53<jm_>so impatient
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04:59<rual93>hola
05:00<so142001>jm, thanks for trying to help earlier, I'm attempting to solve my problem through an apt-get update/upgrade. I managed to get my partition larger.
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05:03<jm_>so142001: can you now run "lspci -nn|grep Ethernet"? also "lsmod | grep atl"
05:04<so142001>results of first command: 04:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Device [1969:1083] (rev c0)
05:04<jm_>ok so I was right with my assumption
05:04<so142001>2nd command returns nothing
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05:05<so142001>So, what am I looking at for results of first cmd?
05:05<jm_>try loading it manually -- modprobe atl1c
05:05<jm_>what's your kernel version? uname -r
05:05<so142001>I ran the command, now what?
05:06<so142001>2.6.32-5-686
05:06<jm_>what did it do/say?
05:06<so142001>I got no output, just new line
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05:06<jm_>run lsmod command again
05:06<SynrG>maferv: ugh. ah well, nice try :)
05:07<so142001>atl1c 23776 0
05:07<so142001>seems to be running
05:07<jm_>do you have eth0 now? ifconfig eth0
05:07<so142001>not yet, should I do a networking restart?
05:08<jm_>no, ls /sys/class/net
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05:08<so142001>lo wlan0
05:08<so142001>eth0 not showing
05:09<so142001>btw thanks for your help in advanced :)
05:09<jm_>check if module reports anything - dmesg | tail -15
05:09<jm_>put that on paste.debian.net
05:09<so142001>lagging out, hold on
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05:10<so142001>what cmd do you want me to run before dmesg?
05:11<jm_>nothing, just: dmesg | tail -15
05:11<jm_>and put whatever it outputs on paste
05:11<so142001>http://paste.debian.net/87440/
05:12<so142001>last 5 lines were due to a network restart.
05:12<so142001>tail 25 gives more of these: aufs au_plink_append:319:dpkg[11960]: unexpectedly many pseudo links,
05:13<jm_>ahh I am an idiot, you need a newer kernel
05:13<jm_>there's on in squeeze bpo so I recommend that
05:13<so142001>okay
05:13<gsimmons>so142001: We told you about the newer kernel requirement before ; /msg dpkg bdo kernel squeeze
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05:13<so142001>so how do I backport?
05:14<jm_>heh so much wasted time :)
05:14<so142001>I know gsimmons, I ran a command that dpkg here gave me
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05:15<gsimmons>so142001: Did you restart your system, to boot into the later kernel?
05:17<so142001>I just finished doing an apt-get update/upgrade
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05:17<so142001>I'm rebooting at the moment
05:17<jm_>he must have as he was booting from USB to resize partitions
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05:18<so142001>I did reboot using the new kernel but I seem to still have the same issue
05:18<so142001>I am going into the bios to check to make sure it's not disabled there
05:18<so142001>brb afk
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05:18<jm_>it's not because lspci shows it
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05:20<so142001>back, so it's still booting
05:21<so142001>And alright jm_
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05:26<so142001>I'm ready to scrap this usb install
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05:26<so142001>I am going to probably follow the advice of what was suggested earlier about updating to 7
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05:27<so142001>Which will require me to find of build an install from scratch
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05:27<so142001>My issue is with bamt, it's a distribution of debian tailored to mining crypto-coins
05:28<SynrG>which is not supported here ...
05:29<SynrG>i thought you said you had squeeze. you actually have bamt based on squeeze?
05:29<so142001>yes bamt is based on squeeze
05:29<SynrG>!based on debian
05:29<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
05:29<so142001>it's essentially squeeze.
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05:30<SynrG>sorry, but we don't support 'essentially squeeze'
05:30<so142001>In any case I may just update to a base debian install, probably 7
05:30<SynrG>nor 'essentially <any-debian-release>' but just debian.
05:30<SynrG>sure
05:30<SynrG>but there's no upgrade path between distros
05:30<so142001>Thanks for your help anyways,
05:31<so142001>I am an avid debian user
05:31<SynrG>so, if by 'update' you mean reinstall, then yes, that's probably a good idea.
05:31<so142001>I run it on my vps
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05:31<so142001>take care
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05:37<Gentleman>hello?
05:37<Gentleman>Heh
05:37<xbytemx>If a debian-based package is build from other distro, for example kali, and meets all guidelines, there's only a need for maintainer?
05:38<Gentleman>How nice. It seems my ban has been lifted.
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05:41<musca>xbytemx: if you want to become a maintainer please read the new maintainers guide and ask in #debian-mentors
05:41<musca>!nmg
05:42<dpkg>The packaging tutorial (http://deb.li/QYyI) and the New Maintainer's Guide (http://deb.li/3DiDA) are good places to start learning about Debian packaging. You should also ask me about <devref> and <policy> to understand how packages should be maintained and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <best practices> <build without helper>. http://www.debian.org/devel/
05:43<xbytemx>musca: ty
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08:25<olspookishmagus>could someone tip me off, what are the V and I
08:25<olspookishmagus>related to popcon?
08:26<abrotman>URL?
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08:27<ila_korea>Abrotman...... help me....
08:27<abrotman>olspookishmagus: I'd guess Install vs Vote
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08:27<abrotman>ila_korea .. do what?
08:27<ila_korea>i dont know trust commend
08:28<olspookishmagus>meaning, the number of reports popcon got about the packages being installed and voted respectively?
08:28<olspookishmagus>what's voted?
08:28<ila_korea>between AD SAMBA
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08:28<olspookishmagus>abrotman: check table 5.1: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html
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08:28<olspookishmagus>sorry for that
08:28<olspookishmagus>http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html *
08:28<abrotman>ila_korea: How would I be able to help?
08:29<abrotman>olspookishmagus: still going with Vote vs Installed
08:29<abrotman>ila_korea: there are tons fo docs, plus #samba on irc.freenode.net
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08:30<olspookishmagus>well, http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ has the answers, thanks abrotman
08:30<abrotman>Was I right? :)
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08:31<ila_korea>Still I dont now...
08:31<ila_korea>I need document for samba trust
08:31<ila_korea>Please help me
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08:35<olspookishmagus>ila_korea: https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/images/trusts1.png
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08:36<olspookishmagus>abrotman: yes indeed
08:37<abrotman>ila_korea: so ask #samba on irc.freenode.net
08:38<ila_korea>Thanks to your help
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10:06<restless>hello debians
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10:06<restless>any body out there?
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10:07<olasd>do you have a question?
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10:07<restless>@Olasd thanks dude. do you know how to install OpenGL in ubuntu?
10:08<olasd>well, you'd have to ask #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
10:09<restless>cannot open this page
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10:10<dpkg>restless: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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10:11<restless>thanks dude
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10:16<SynrG>!ops
10:16<dpkg>Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
10:16<alumno__>vos idiotaa .. gila
10:16<Rociii_>jaajaaa
10:16<SynrG>!ops lost spaniards
10:16<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: synrg complains about: lost spaniards
10:16<MELO>SOYLO MASSSSSS
10:16<bhuddah>is it that time of year again?
10:16<Rociii_>miliiiiiiiiiiiii...:9
10:16<SynrG>play elsewhere, please
10:16<MELO>MAURO TE GEDE
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10:17<ewet>hi, I have a laptop with a Jmicron JMC260 ethernet chip that does not connect to my tp-link router but does connect just fine (dhcp and all) to my hitron router (which is also my cable modem). on my tp-link router it would not even work with a static IP. dhcp says that it did not receive a lease. mii-tool says 'link ok'.
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10:18<ewet>oh, and the tp-link router doesn't have any mac filtering
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10:19<SynrG>ewet: uname -a
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10:21<ewet>`Linux debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 i686 GNU/Linux`
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10:22<SynrG>ewet: oh, and lspci -nn |grep -i ethernet
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10:22<ewet>also network config is exactly the most simple first one from here https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration (the standard)
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10:24<SynrG>so my first inclination would be to guess autonegotiation failed, but mii-tool 'link ok' argues against that ... my second is that perhaps the router itself is misconfigured. but you have other devices on ethernet which presumably work ok on the same router?
10:25<SynrG>then we go looking for possible driver bugs
10:25<SynrG>(i need the pciid for that, from the command i just gave)
10:25<jpentland>When building external modules with "make -C $(KERNELSRC) M=$(MODULE)" is there a way to make the intermediate files not end up in the M directory? I have already specified O=$(BUILDDIR)
10:25<ewet>my pc (ubuntu and windows) work fine on ethernet. two android devices work fine via wifi
10:25<SynrG>k
10:25<Ashley>I was wondering. I am new to linux and I noticed a lot that I see things talk about servers, now when I thing of servers I thing of big computers. What is servers with linux?
10:26<ewet>SynrG: I have to type this shit up ;) give me some time
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10:26<zathras>Ashley, servers are usually processes that provide services
10:26<petn-randall>ewet: Maybe you're missing firmware for that device?
10:26<zathras>Ashley, but a server can also be a computer
10:26<Ashley>Zayhras thank you
10:27-!-mode/#debian [+l 705] by debhelper
10:27<SynrG>Ashley: 'server' is often used interchangably with 'daemon'
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10:28<Ashley>Thank you fellas just trying to take it all in thank you so much. Little adjustment from windows you know
10:28<SynrG>server is the "friendly" word a user is more likely to understand (e.g. "web server", not "http daemon")
10:28<ewet>08:00.5 Ethernet controller [0200]: JMicron Technology Corp. JMC260 PCI Express Fast Ethernet Controller [197b:0260] (rev 02)
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10:28<SynrG>ewet: just interested in the [####:####] at the end of that line
10:28<ewet>petn-randall: well, it works just fine on the hitron router, so ...
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10:28<SynrG>ewet: if that helps reduce typing :)
10:29<ewet>well now I'm done ;)
10:29<SynrG>oh well
10:29<SynrG>for next time :)
10:29<SynrG>,pciid [197b:0260]
10:29<judd>[197b:0260] is 'JMC260 PCI Express Fast Ethernet Controller' from 'JMicron Technology Corp.' with kernel modules 'ahci', 'pata_jmicron', 'jme' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=197b:0260
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10:29<ewet>jme is loaded
10:29<Ashley>Now I am trying to set my wifi router up for radius is there a way to set my wifi card to connect. I can get my Ethernet connected just not wifi
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10:30<ewet>ahci is as well pata_jmicron isn't
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10:32<SynrG>don't worry about the others
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10:33<redguy>hi, is there a way to download a source package that is in NEW queue?
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10:34<ewet>oh, and I've done away with avahi and the wicd(?) network manager.
10:34<SynrG>ewet: i can't prove it, but i'm doubting it's a driver bug. we need to somehow get more info about what's happening.
10:35<SynrG>maybe cabling?
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10:35<SynrG>ewet: test with different cables, different ports
10:35<SynrG>ewet: different devices using *same* cable/port
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10:36<SynrG>ewet: also, would be useful to see if the router has any knowledge of the device at all (using mgmt interface for the router)
10:36<ewet>I plugged in the pc on all sockets on the tp-link: fine. laptop: nope.. Ive been using another cable: same thing. both cables work on any socket on the hitron router.
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10:37<SynrG>any other OS on the laptop, or just debian?
10:37<obiwan>ubuntu
10:37<ewet>SynrG: only debian
10:37<obiwan>asd
10:38<SynrG>!ubuntuirc obiwan
10:38<dpkg>obiwan: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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10:39<SynrG>obiwan: and management interface of the router? does it even see the MAC of the device when you attach it?
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10:40<ewet>you mean me?
10:40<SynrG>bahh
10:40<SynrG>yes
10:40<ewet>:)
10:40<SynrG>(eyes mistracked to the wrong line to find the nick to autocomplete :)
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10:41<ewet>oh, wow.. it actually knows the system in the clients list. for a while it didn't. this must be a new thing. but yes: I can see the mac addresss in that list.
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10:42<ewet>hmm
10:42<ewet>that's really weird ...
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10:45<ewet>so there IS a physical connection and communication going on
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10:47<ewet>could it have connectivity on ARP level but not on IP (but then again why does dhcp fail)
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10:48<SynrG>ewet: yes, why indeed
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10:50<SynrG>if the router sees the device, and from debian, the link is OK ...
10:50<ewet>yeah ...
10:50<SynrG>i'm thinking it's gotta be a problem in your router config somewhere
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10:55<ewet>SynrG: router config is pretty much vanilla after a firmware update. I only changed the IP, wifi security, disabled vpn passthroughs and disabled the Application Layer Gateways. wifi has mac filtering, whitelisting both android devices (but PC works fine via ethernet as it should)
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10:55<teb>sup! I'm testing the beautiful 3.14.0-RC6 on Hyper-V and it's requiring more than 500MB ram to boot, how can I shrink the loaded modules at init for it not to crash on booting?
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10:56<SynrG>ewet: which firmware? original or something custom?
10:57<ewet>I have the lastest vanilla tp-link firmware on the router.
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10:58<ewet>SynrG: http://www.tp-link.com/resources/simulator/TL-WR1043ND/index.htm
10:58<ewet>;)
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11:03<form_>hi all, I'm on training and showing what is IRC
11:03<SynrG>ewet: that's exactly my router, except i run openwrt on it
11:04<ewet>:)
11:05<SynrG>ewet: any adress reservation for your MAC in DHCP?
11:05<form_>bye
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11:05<ewet>this whole thing is so silly. I think, if anything, it's probably a driver issue
11:05<ewet>SynrG: nothing, for no device
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11:05<SynrG>that would be easier to prove if you booted a different OS (or just kernel?)
11:05<ewet>I usually go for static config at that point and choose the dhcp range accordingly
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11:06<SynrG>!bdo kernel
11:06<dpkg>Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
11:06<ewet>well, I have a couple if images. I put one of those on a stick...
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11:08<ewet>the Tails stick I have here is debian as well, so there's that (and it doesn't work either)
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11:08<SynrG>debian-based, at least
11:08<teb>I just compiled 3.14.0-RC6 for use on Hyper-v and it works fine but initramfs takes too much memory to load modules that I don't use
11:09<teb>how can I shrink the initramfs size and remove the unused modules?
11:11<ewet>oh man, I gotta eat.. (stupid, stupid laptop!) I'll be back for more fun ;)
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11:13<ewet>SynrG: oh and wireless works perfectly with the laptop and the tp-link ... just: it's not supposed to use it (security)
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12:14<Raniero>me leen
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12:15<b1n4ry>Hello, is there a tester login for rtc.debian.org ?
12:15<Raniero>cual es la ultima version de ubuntu
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12:16<Maulkin>!ubuntu-irc
12:16<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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12:21<Celelibi>How bad of an idea is it to bypass the debian BTS to report the bug upstream?
12:21<Celelibi>I reported it on the debian BTS, but I also downloaded the upstream code, compiled and saw it apply there too.
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12:22<carlos>olaaaaa
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12:22<carlos>olaaa
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12:24<Maulkin>Celelibi: It's probably useful to forward it upstream too, and see https://wiki.debian.org/BugTriage#Forwarding_reports_upstream
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12:27<Celelibi>Maulkin: isn't that what the package maintainer is supposed to do?
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12:29<Maulkin>Celelibi: The package maintainer probably will, but if you do it for them, then I'm sure they'll be greatful
12:29<Celelibi>ok.
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12:30<be_ans>so i am trying to config a debian distro for vpn and then repackage it to use as a live os... I think I need to do a full install on virtualbox then config the vpn... then repackage as an iso, is this correct?
12:31<be_ans>i may Or may not be doing it the hard way... i know of no other ways to accomplish this
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12:32<sney>be_ans: this is probably a better starting point. http://live-systems.org/build/
12:32<be_ans>thnx sney
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12:35<be_ans>hmmm.... not sure. I am trying to use a kali iso
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12:45<petn-randall>Hi everyone, '/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_procs -C apache2' is failing for one of my machines after a squeeze→wheezy upgrade, but it works fine on several other machines. There *are* several apache2 processes running, but the check always returns "0 processes with command name 'apache2'". Any hints how to debug this?
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12:48<petn-randall>On the "faulty" and the "healthy" machine, both run nagios-plugins-basic=1.5-1~bpo70+1. Running the command with -vvv also reveals the process list containing apache2.
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12:50<frlttrwrd>brand new uefi hardware, never used uefi before. anything I need to know before installing debian?
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12:51<Nemoder>!uefi
12:51<dpkg>Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" supports installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. See also <errata>. http://www.uefi.org/
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12:58<atler>Hello, when I boot my debian 7. 4.0 instead of giving a GUI window it brings me to a command line login window. What should I do to fix this issue?
12:59<maferv>atler, did you install a Desktop Environment or a Window Manager?
12:59<atler>maferv, No
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13:00<maferv>https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce
13:01<atler>maferv, It generally used to open a GUI login window but when I opened it today it brings me to a cmd login window
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13:01<dante_>atler, startx
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13:02<mtn>atler: what did you change before this happened?
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13:03<atler>startx gives a full black window.
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13:04<atler>mtn, I didn't installed anything.
13:04<maferv>did you update any packages?
13:05<atler>I ran sudo apt-get update
13:05<atler>yesterday
13:05<mtn>atler: it worked fine before you shut down, right? now it doesn't? if so, something changed.
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13:06<maferv>did you change any repositories or edited sources.list?
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13:06<atler>during booting it shows some messages during that it shows a fail message then it gives a cmd login window quickly. so I am unable to read that fail message
13:07<dante_>atler, look into log file in /var/log/
13:07<dante_>message and xorg files
13:09<dante_>sorry messages
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13:10<maferv>did anybody know that we are being recorded right now? http://infobot.rikers.org/
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13:13<petn-randall>maferv: There are several websites that have logs of this channel.
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13:14<zathras>maferv, privacy is soooo pre 2000
13:14<maferv>is logging allowed for #debian petn-randall? would you mind telling me a few other websites?
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13:16<ncl>IRC has always been insecure
13:16<petn-randall>How is this private? It's a public channel. Googling "#debian logs" will reveal several such pages.
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13:17<petn-randall>ncl: How is that "insecure"? It's just as "insecure" as a public advertisement, that can be seen by everyone.
13:17<ncl>IRC on a whole is pretty public
13:17<petn-randall>maferv: Yes, it's allowed.
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13:19<ncl>petn-randall: I mean IRC isn't the best way to have any sort of private conversation, even if you've locked down a channel, using SSL, etc. you're still assuming whoever is on the server side can't just watch easily, as the traffic is only encrypted up to the servers' side
13:19<ncl>unless you have end to end encryption, which most of that is 1:1 which kind of defeats the point of irc, channels with multiple people
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13:20<maferv>I didn't know it was allowed to log oftc's debian channel. Then why don't create an official log at debian.org or debian.net?
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13:23<dondelelcaro>maferv: because it's not really important enough..
13:23<blast007>!tell maferv about irclog
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13:23<petn-randall>ncl: If you want to have a private conversation over IRC, you can use OTR. But in a public channel everyone can join and read it, so there's no point to "secure" that in any way.
13:24<ncl>that's what I'm saying
13:24<ncl>also can otr even do multiple people? as far as I know it only really worked with 1:1 conversations
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13:28<maferv>thanks blast007
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13:32<maquina22>scsc
13:32<maquina22>ccaaascazx
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13:32*petn-randall suspects a cat.
13:32<maquina22>a<A
13:32<jackrelish>Is anyone having issues with applications rendering over each other with the latest Xorg (2:1.15)?
13:32<apachepost>alter: are you by chance on powerpc? sounds like a bug several had a few weeks ago after updates
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13:33<petn-randall>jackrelish: If you're running jessie/sid, you can get support on #debian-next.
13:33<jackrelish>petn-randall, thanks!
13:34<petn-randall>jackrelish: You're welcome, see you there!
13:35<apachepost>alter: but if you're at that text login screen ,be happy and confident that is a great place to be :)
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13:35<petn-randall>atler: If you have bootlogd installed, you can check the bootlog in /var/log/.
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13:40<atler>petn-randall, I don't have bootlogd installed
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13:51<ewet>SynrG or anybody still familiar with my quarrel: If I used another operating system to test this, would you expect another Linux distro to behave any different? or should I use another OS entirely?
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15:04<atler>what might be a problem? does installing package which is responsible for GUI solves my problem?
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15:12<walid>hi
15:12<chealer>atler: which display manager do you use?
15:13<walid>were??
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15:20<jfeliz>help in spanish ??
15:20<jfeliz>!es
15:20<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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15:23<jfeliz>!manual
15:23<dpkg>If you are looking for manuals, guides and procedures focusing on Debian - from a user perspective, the administrator's view and others - see http://www.debian.org/doc/ . Also ask me about <reference> and <grounding>.
15:24<jfeliz>!manual es
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15:24<jfeliz>!msg
15:24<dpkg>(1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/).
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15:28<jfeliz>!help
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15:30<centrx>Well that was strange
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15:53<walid>hi
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16:03<abrotman>alvaro: can I help you?
16:04<manuel>hello
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16:14<abrotman>alvaro: don't do that .. that's just annoying
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16:18<jfeliz>!help
16:18<centrx>jfeliz, What are you doing?
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17:08<ewet>shit warez channels teaching kids bad manners ...
17:08<Watermells>Hi, is the default system font specific to X or is it set by the window manager?
17:09<Watermells>... it's gtks business isn't it?
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17:42<daimwn>ela loipon den mporo na ta valo giati iparxei provlima me ena paketo xorg-video-abi to idio provlima eixa kai prin
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17:43<daimwn>wrong chat :)
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18:10<Samy>hello
18:11<darokthar>Hi
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18:12<Samy>what the subject here?
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18:12<Samy>what's
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18:13<planetmaker>see topic
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18:14<Samy>ok thank you
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18:56<alvaro>hello
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20:39<rwhite>If I have an application installed via apt-get - if I dpkg -i <updated beta package> will it update the current version to the current location or create a new install
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20:59<ltsp10>olá babilem
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21:20<kamo>Hello
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21:44<restless>does any body knows where to get help for ubuntu installation
21:44<centrx>restless, #ubuntu on Freenode
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21:45<restless>centrx: ? dont understand what are you saying? i am new to this fourm
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21:46<abrotman>restless: ubuntu isn't supported here, #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net is your channel for support
21:46<abrotman>!ubuntuirc restless
21:46<dpkg>restless: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
21:46<centrx>restless, This is an IRC network called OFTC. There are many IRC networks. Freenode is one of them.
21:47<restless>oh got it. thanks man
21:50<restless>centrx: can you please tell me how to connect the free node from the very start?
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21:50<centrx>restless, Just enter /server irc.freenode.net in the box where you are typing in to chat right now
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21:51<restless>thanks
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22:29<restless>guys, is there any dedicated help channel for OpenGL at Ubuntu?
22:29<abrotman>restless: this still isn't hte Ubuntu help channel
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22:30<restless>i know, but just seeking some one who is working on openGL at any linux
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22:33<abrotman>restless: there's probably a #opengl on Freenode
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22:34<abrotman>restless: ##OpenGL on irc.freenode.net
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22:37<restless>abrotman: i really dont know how to connect to this channel
22:37<abrotman>restless: /server irc.freenode.net .. after it connects, /join ##OpenGL
22:37<abrotman>those are commands for your IRC client
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22:39<restless>thats great. thanks
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23:36<mask>im using ftp.nl.debian.org for my updates and some things seem to download correctly but I seem to get a lot of Failed to Fetch errors, does anyone know why?
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23:41<centrx>mask, It might be in the middle of updating the mirror itself
23:41<centrx>mask, Or there could be some temporary error with that mirror
23:42<mask>centrx, ok, i have had the error three days in a row now, always for the same IP address, but other Get results seem to come back just fine
23:43<mask>centrx, is there a large difference in the update depending on the mirror?
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23:47<travnewmatic>i have a questoin about dropbox and /home on a separate trive
23:47<travnewmatic>*drive
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23:49<mask>travnewmatic, just state you question, if someone wants to reply they will
23:52<travnewmatic>i installed wheezy on two drive, / and swap on one drive, and /home on anohter ddrive. i installed dropbox repeatedly, and it would never come up with the login wizard, in fact, it would get stuck on "connecting". in the terminal it looked as though it had something to do with permissions
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23:54<thatguychuck>How did you go about installing dropbox?
23:54<travnewmatic>it was an extremetly unencountered problem
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