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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-03-29

---Logopened Sat Mar 29 00:00:52 2014
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04:01<derrick>hi
04:02<Sp4ceBANDIT>Hola
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04:19<darkside>hi all
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04:20<darkside>everyone !
04:22<darkside>please help me ... I don't inicialize my desktop enviroment 1111
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04:22<darkside>startx dont't work
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04:31<musca>hello darkside
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04:33<derrick_>I am having a bit of trouble with my conky. it doesn't show connection upspeed and downspeed
04:33<derrick_>I am using a wired connection and I have it set for eth0
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04:37<cesar>Please, I would like to know whether it is advisable to install the latest stable kernel version 3.13.7?
04:38<musca>!bdo kernel
04:38<dpkg>Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
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04:39<derrick>ifconfig show eth0 and lo
04:39<root_>hi. any one can help me ro add list chat room irc.geekshed.net
04:40<musca>cesar: the version from wheezy-backports: 3.13-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.13.5-1~bpo70+1);
04:40<derrick>but conky doesn't show connectioin upspeed or downspeed. anyone have any idea what the issue might be?
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04:42<cesar>yes, I've updated, but my version is 3.13.0.bpo.1amd64!
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04:43<derrick>${font}Down Speed: ${alignr}${downspeedf eth0}k/s
04:44<cesar>musca yes, I've updated, but my version is 3.13.0.bpo.1amd64!
04:44<cesar>I need to customize my support system! I have many questions!
04:44<cesar>ops
04:45<cesar>I need support to customize my system! I have many questions!
04:47<cesar>I'm using Debian Wheezy 7.4 with XFCE
04:47<cesar>suggestions ?
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04:52<musca>cesar: despite the package versioning it really contains (3.13.5-1~bpo70+1)
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04:53<cesar>mmm ok
04:53<cesar> _,met$$$$$gg. cesar@debian
04:53<cesar> ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P. OS: Debian 7.4 wheezy
04:53<cesar> ,g$$P"" """Y$$.". Kernel: x86_64 Linux 3.13-0.bpo.1-amd64
04:53<cesar> ,$$P' `$$$. Uptime: 1h 8m
04:53<cesar> ',$$P ,ggs. `$$b: Packages: 1399
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04:54<musca>heh, good bot :)
04:55*babilen pats debhelper
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04:58<cesar>hi
04:58<cesar>I need something more ?
04:59<derrick>paste.debian.net/90318
04:59<derrick>conky network config
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05:00<derrick>can someone give me an idea of what is wrong with my conkyrc
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05:51<DAMN3dg1rl>hallo :) sorry , is there a iceweasel version based upon firefox29 ?
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05:54<nocturnal>not sure but try here http://mozilla.debian.net/
05:55<DAMN3dg1rl>thank :D i'll try
06:00<musca>DAMN3dg1rl: Aurora is at version 30.0a2
06:00<DAMN3dg1rl>aurora is the new interface ?
06:01<musca>australis
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06:01<musca>Aurora is build with australis since version 29.0
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06:03<DAMN3dg1rl>sorry , i'm confused . many au* :D
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06:06<DAMN3dg1rl>uhm . i added aurora backports , i've icewasel 24 ... why apt-get try to downgrade it ??
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06:09<nocturnal>did you follow the instructions on the link? I just tried it because I was also interested in iceweasel 30 and it worked fine.
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06:10<DAMN3dg1rl>nocturnal, i added the repo line for aurora backports and i done update and apt-get install -t iceweasel
06:10<nocturnal>also the repo key
06:10<nocturnal>you would have gotten an error from the update without the key
06:10<nocturnal>curl http://mozilla.debian.net/archive.asc | sudo apt-key add -
06:11<nocturnal>on a side note, aurora looks sweet
06:11<nocturnal>=)
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06:12<DAMN3dg1rl>nocturnal, now i added the key , whith your line, updated , but is the same ...
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06:12<nocturnal>try uninstalling iceweasel, it won't touch your profile
06:13<nocturnal>also I hope you don't have any pinnings set
06:13<nocturnal>apt pinning
06:14<DAMN3dg1rl>i cannot use pinning . i suppose to don't have anyone :D
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06:14<nocturnal>yes, you don't have any by default on debian
06:14<nocturnal>only if you set it
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06:15<nocturnal>apt-cache show iceweasel shows which versions?
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06:15<nocturnal>apt-cache show -t wheezy-backports iceweasel
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06:16<DAMN3dg1rl>http://pastebin.com/BSTVSHGK
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06:16<DAMN3dg1rl>opppssss
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06:17<nocturnal>maybe you have some other backports
06:17<DAMN3dg1rl>http://pastebin.com/Qq0URTns
06:17<nocturnal>because 17 is stable, and you have 24
06:18<nocturnal>ok well that's the difference with my setup, I don't use backports before this
06:18<nocturnal>so maybe check your sources
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06:18<nocturnal>or pin the iceweasel package
06:18<nocturnal>not sure how you should do
06:19<DAMN3dg1rl>http://pastebin.com/JY6YHrKz
06:19<DAMN3dg1rl>there are my sources ...
06:21<nocturnal>,v iceweasel
06:21<judd>Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 17.0.10esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 24.4.0esr-1~deb7u2; jessie: 24.4.0esr-1; sid: 24.4.0esr-1; experimental: 28.0-1
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06:22<DAMN3dg1rl>nocturnal, what ?
06:22<nocturnal>just checking
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07:04<Tcp>I was wondering if anyone here happens to know of a program like sound juicer but for movie DVDs, to save DVD movies to hard drive?
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07:07<sysvalve>hi
07:08<Tcp>Hi
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07:31<Ax>What is better to go with debian testing or stable for a personal computer?
07:32<Ax>Or what would the pros and cons be of the two?
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07:39<SynrG>Ax ...
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07:41<abrotman>waiting a whole 30 seconds ...
07:41<SynrG>web irc :p
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07:44<derrick>I like testing because it is rolling Ax
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07:45<derrick>I use testing gnome and it is very useable
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07:45<derrick>stable is a bit dated, if I was making a server I would use stable
07:46<SynrG>derrick: gone
07:46<musca>derrick: Ax left 15 Minutes ago :)
07:46<derrick>oops
07:46<derrick>still learning irc
07:46<SynrG>derrick: but while we're on the topic, #debian-next if you're a testing user
07:47<SynrG>derrick: also, technically testing is not a 'rolling release'
07:47<SynrG>though it has some features in common
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07:47*abrotman grumbles about wikipedia
07:47<derrick>it is as much rolling as I can take
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09:44<xreal>I've killed my apt-get and it wants me to use "-f install", but I don't want the package at all. How can I remove it?
09:44<xreal>found a way :)
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09:45<dpkg>lock: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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12:32<frikinz>Is it possible to combine an apt-get -f install and a purge in one go?
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12:40<frikinz>I'm on a deb6 box (not my own, couldn't upgrade) and while pulling one unstable package it pulled a few others with the :any suffix which current dpkg doesn't like. apt-get -f install constantly fails
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12:42<abrotman>that seems like a horrible idea
12:43<frikinz>That was but the person was not available and I was impatient :)
12:43<frikinz>I wonder if I could rewrite the control file to remove these :any
12:43<ompaul>frikinz: not that I am aware of, and given that 6 looses support in a few days (less than 100) I'd be advising that the owner to prepare for and execute an upgrade / hardware change as required
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12:47<frikinz>Don't think he will upgrade. There was a reason for this choice. So either I fix this to have my package or I have to revert. Not able for both..
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12:48<frikinz>I'm not even sure he can upgrade now with that mess
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13:06<zykotick9>ompaul: you're not confident about the prospect of a lts squeeze i take it...
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13:12<ompaul>zykotick9: e16 is there in squeeze
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13:13<guiniol>SynrG: I found replacement parts, but I couldn't get the specs off those...
13:14<ompaul>zykotick9: a release is a self contained object, if an lts exists great, however lts desktops are a bit less than recent, a lot has happened in the last couple of years
13:15<ompaul>zykotick9: I haven't seen a great charge to the lts space
13:15<ompaul>I could be wrong, but it's not something I heard of in a cheered way
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13:21<SynrG>guiniol: sigh
13:23<SynrG>guiniol: did you exhaustively search the web on the part#? or were there too many hits to go through? maybe i could give it a try ...
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13:38<guiniol>I found the parts but I didn't find the specs for most of them
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13:38<guiniol>and those I did find the specs of didn't remove to flickering
13:39<guiniol>SynrG: ^
13:39<guiniol>SynrG: I kinda think it is a lost cause anyways
13:39<guiniol>don't bother unless you have nothing else to do
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13:58<zykotick9>ompaul: i'd guess, "a couple weeks ago" the security team sent out an email, saying lts for squeeze "might" be possible, if there is enough interest.
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13:59<zykotick9>ompaul: i see no use for it in the desktop-space either...
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14:00*zykotick9 does think debian would make better ATM machine OSes, then some legacy propritary OS - losing support shortly...
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14:05<petn-randall>zykotick9: Is there any incentive at all for that? Given that upgrades are essentially painless ...
14:06<zykotick9>petn-randall: for me personally - none! for debian as a potential base for others... perhaps several - i'm looking at you space station ;)
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14:15<petn-randall>zykotick9: The ISS will simply upgrade to wheezy when they feel like it ... ;)
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14:33<YoungPadawan>hi
14:33<pj>hi
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14:49<live>hello
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14:58<beneter>Hello, I would like to rescue some data from a 16GB SD-Card, but fdisk only shows a size of 32MB. What can I do?
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15:00<centrx>beneter, What filesystem is it?
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15:01<beneter>centrx: I don't know. (I have to rescue the data of a friend). Probably some Windows-Filesystem. But I can't even dd an image of the whole card (only of 32MB).
15:02<centrx>Weird. That sounds like it could be a hardware issue, or possibly something with how the kernel is connecting to the device.
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15:03<centrx>beneter, Are you sure you are dd'ing the device, and not just a (bogus) partition on it?
15:03<beneter>yes
15:03<beneter>ddrescue -b2048 /dev/sdc rescue.img ddrescue.log
15:04<beneter>can a broken partition table cause this issue?
15:04<centrx>How about a plain dd ?
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15:04<beneter>the md5sum of the resulting file is the same ;)
15:05<centrx>I don't think so, dd should be able to grab any data from the device. You can dump data on it without a filesystem
15:05<beneter>Disk /dev/sdc: 32 MB, 32096256 bytes
15:05<beneter>1 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1011 cylinders, total 62688 sectors
15:05<beneter>Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
15:05<beneter>even fdisk shows the 32MB
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15:07<centrx>beneter, I don't know. You either need to find someone who knows a lot about the kernel's USB/SD interface to possibly tweak something, or it's a hardware problem in which can you would need to take it to a professional data recovery that can fix hardware (expensive).
15:08<beneter>okay, thanks for the help :)
15:08<centrx>beneter, If the device worked or it were just a messed up partition table, I would recommend installing ntfs-3g and using the ntfsundelete tool
15:08<beneter>i would have tried photorec
15:08<centrx>beneter, You might be able to do that on the 32MB, assuming maybe there's only 32MB on the disk or something and maybe that's what SD cards do if they have
15:08<beneter>thanks for the hint
15:09<centrx>Yeah photorec is pretty good
15:09<centrx>At least I think it was called photorec
15:10<centrx>Yeah, it was photorec
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15:40<ompaul>zykotick9: I saw the mail thought it was a little late in the season, needs to be said toward the top of the release, but I don't think the LTS stuff suits Debian. Vis the ATM stuff, yes and yes, and no. The machines themselves seem to be badly designed in some ways from what I have read. But we'll leave that for a not weekend day. ;-)
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15:53<mkad>Hi
15:53<mkad>How to install oracle Java on Debian ?
15:53<mkad>is java-package usable ?
15:53<towo`>it is
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15:55<mkad>I get errors
15:55<mkad>dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: can't extract name and version from library name 'libjli.so'
15:55<mkad>dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: can't extract name and version from library name
15:55<mkad>warnings I mean
15:55<towo`>and?
15:55<towo`>it's normal
15:55<mkad>is that something I should be worried about?
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15:55<abrotman>warnings ..
15:55<mkad>towo`, thanks
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15:56<mkad>well if it's not harmful that is ok, but why does it report this warning ?
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16:48<Sp4ceB4NDIT>*Whispers into your ears*
16:50<DAMN3dg1rl>nocturnal, hallo
16:51<DAMN3dg1rl>nocturnal, thank for this afternoon . i resolved now . i forget I downgraded my wheezy to jesse using pinning ... Removing pinning iceweasel was updated
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17:46<Vale>hola
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17:46<Vale>Hola
17:46<Vale>como te llamas???
17:47<Sp4ceB4NDIT>Hiya.
17:48<Vale>?????
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17:48<Vale>hiya
17:48<Vale>rghgf
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17:49<Vale>what is your name???
17:49<Sp4ceB4NDIT>Bandit.
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17:50<Sp4ceB4NDIT>Lolz
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17:56<centrx>His name is Sp4ceB4NDIT, duh
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18:53<walidmx>hi!
18:53<Sp4ceB4NDIT>Hola
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18:58<cryptolyt>hello guys, i added a new rule to iptables ("iptables -A OUTPUT -s <ip> -j DROP") hoping this would block the ip on my server but I can still ping it - why is that?
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18:58<abrotman>you want -A INPUT perhaps?
18:59<walidmx>hi debian user
18:59<cryptolyt>yes I tried it with input too but same result
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19:18<mintled>Is there an add on that will block facebook like buttons?
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19:40<dakog_lagay>hello guys..i have an old machine but capable on 64 bit..i use win7 before and it runs sluggish..now i'm using linux 32bit,do i need to switch 64bit?..
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19:41<Sp4ceB4NDIT>If it runs good on 32 Bit then stay.
19:41<Sp4ceB4NDIT>If not try 64
19:42<dakog_lagay>sometimes my machine keeps on idling ,cpu almost 100%..any advice..
19:42<Sp4ceB4NDIT>I doubt moving to 64bit would help..
19:44<dakog_lagay>my concern is my machine running too hot..64bit can help this?..
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19:45<Sp4ceB4NDIT>Nope.
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20:13<eric_>I'm an escapee from XP ... DDM displays : Could not get lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock - Have restarted, no good ...asked to close files... WFT?
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20:15<abrotman>eric_: what is DDM?
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20:17<eric_>device driver manager, right?
20:18<abrotman>doesn't seem likely
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20:18<abrotman>not sure why a device manager would want to run dpkg like that
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20:20<dr_ghost404>H3ll0
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20:29<eric_>"Close any programs locking the file and restart DDM"... which program would lock the download device manager ?
20:30<SynrG>ummm. is this debian? or something else?
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20:30<eric_>I'm an escapee from XP ... DDM displays : Could not get lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock - Have restarted, no good ...asked to close files... WFT? solydx
20:31<SynrG>!solydx
20:31<dpkg>SolydX is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on debian> with the XFCE desktop environment. It is not supported in #debian, use #solydxk on irc.freenode.net instead. http://solydxk.com/products/solydx/
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21:09<SkapiN>hi, how can I change permission for /dev forlder. I need to create symlink with lambda-user after reboot/boot.
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21:13<YOLOSWAGBBQ>I'm having trouble installing a printer driver on a 64-bit system.
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21:16<SynrG>having a hard time deciding which is more distressing, the lack of info in that question or the 100-watt irc nick ;)
21:16<SynrG>!ask
21:16<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
21:17<YOLOSWAGBBQ>haha. Printer model is Brother HL-2240. I'm typing this from a stable version of debian (7.4) w/ KDE. I tried following this guide: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_prn.html#f00081 (and this one linked from the first one: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_prn1a.html)
21:18<SynrG>ugh. so, vendor driver. and the trouble you're having is?
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21:20<YOLOSWAGBBQ>SynrG: http://pastebin.com/szhAbkmu
21:21<YOLOSWAGBBQ>I sense that there is some trickery in getting a 32-bit printer driver to work on an AMD64 system
21:21<bugtraq>hello
21:22<SynrG>yes
21:22<SynrG>!multiarch
21:22<dpkg>Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>.
21:22<SynrG>YOLOSWAGBBQ: ^^ do this
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21:23<YOLOSWAGBBQ>I remember this trick the last time I tried. Still complained, " hl2240lpr depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1)"
21:23<YOLOSWAGBBQ>I will try again
21:23<SynrG>,v libc6
21:23<judd>Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u1; jessie: 2.18-4; sid: 2.18-4
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21:23<SynrG>YOLOSWAGBBQ: that's fine. apt-get -f install after that
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21:27<YOLOSWAGBBQ>"apt-get -f install" the driver?
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21:28<SynrG>YOLOSWAGBBQ: dpkg -i the driver
21:28<SynrG>when it complains about the deps, "apt-get -f install" (no arguments) to fix
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21:28<SynrG>if you've enabled multiarch, apt ought to be able to resolve it
21:28<YOLOSWAGBBQ>Ok it's pulling some c libs
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21:43<YOLOSWAGBBQ>So I got both the LPR and CUPS wrapper drivers installed
21:46-!-octal [~alvarezp@2001:470:d:872:8cb3:901b:bef8:fdd9] has joined #debian
21:47<SynrG>because two drivers are better than one?
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21:49<YOLOSWAGBBQ>I have the printer tethered to a Raspberry Pi.
21:49<YOLOSWAGBBQ>To be honest, I don't know what the best driver setup is.
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21:52<sixpindin>Looking for a good channel to get some video-driver help?
21:52<miguel>hola
21:52<sixpindin>..
21:52<abrotman>sixpindin: with which distor?
21:53<sixpindin>abrotman:crunchbang
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21:53<YOLOSWAGBBQ>SynrG, Brother's website suggested installing the LPR and then the CUPS .deb
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21:53<abrotman>sixpindin: they have their own support channel on freenode, this isn't it
21:53<SynrG>YOLOSWAGBBQ: yeah, i guess you follow their advice, then
21:53<SynrG>YOLOSWAGBBQ: i think i had to deal with this myself, for a friend's system
21:54<sixpindin>abrotman:I went to #crunchbang and nobody was around :(
21:54<SynrG>so sad. and so not our problem
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21:54<abrotman>sixpindin: We do not support Crunchbang here, only Debian.
21:54<sixpindin>-It's a generic 'can somebody point me to a guide on compiling i915 from source' question
21:54<abrotman>sixpindin: #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net, or ##linux on freenode
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21:54<abrotman>Have a good day
21:55<sixpindin>abrotman:did I say crunchbang? - I mean't debian ;)
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21:55<abrotman>sixpindin: Use #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net, have a good day
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21:55<YOLOSWAGBBQ>If a cups server has a driver for the printer, do clients need a driver?
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21:58<miguel>buenas noches
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22:01<wompa>buenos nachos
22:02<octal>buenos!
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22:09<YOLOSWAGBBQ>Printer status is the cryptic: "Idle - File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/brlpdwrapperHL2240" not available: No such file or directory"
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22:11<SynrG>dunno, and off to sleep.
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22:15<rryoumaa>i am using iceweasel from the debian mozilla repo, and tab mix plus. there doesn't seem to be any way to restore a session. is this the case?
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22:26<YOLOSWAGBBQ>thx SynrG
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22:36<foundson>hi
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22:52<Guest4834>sorry no idea how to change it
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23:29<mattcen>Hi all. I'm using journalled quotas on Debian Wheezy. If I understand correctly, that *should* mean I don't need to run quotacheck on unclean shutdown. Despite this, my system runs quotacheck anyway.
23:29<mattcen>Is that a bug in the init script that I can safely comment out, or is it actually required?
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