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00:00<RuPeRterer>what the differnce in appitude and get-install
00:00<somiaj>RuPeRterer: you are missing offical repos, you only have secuirty windows and backports
00:00<somiaj>!tell RuPeRterer about wheezy sources.list
00:01<somiaj>You need a main wheezy repo to get most the packages.
00:02<somiaj>RuPeRterer: you mean aptitude and apt-get. They preform a similar function and use the same database when managing packages, but they have different logic, and slighty different features, and speed it takes them to figure things out.
00:02<RuPeRterer>tryin to fiure out what link i need some taht msg lol one sec
00:02<RuPeRterer>yes osrry
00:02<RuPeRterer>lack of sleep over this hdmi no sound is showing
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00:04<somiaj>RuPeRterer: no problem, I hope we can get ya up and working. I'm really hoping your problem was the strange mix you had before. If you want paste your sources.list file to me before you apt-get update.
00:05<us`0gb>No main? I wonder how that happened.
00:05<somiaj>us`0gb: (:
00:05<RuPeRterer>W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_wheezy_updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
00:05<RuPeRterer>W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
00:06<RuPeRterer>somiaj u get this audio working i will send u a keg and a stripper lmao
00:06<centrx>dpkg: tell RuPeRterer about sources.list
00:06<us`0gb>dpkg: tell us`0gb about sources.list
00:06<somiaj>RuPeRterer: please paste me your sources.list beofre you do that, I was gonna try to make sure tha tdidn't happen
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00:07<somiaj>us`0gb: /msg dpkg sources.list
00:07<us`0gb>Hmm. Yeah, I should have done that.
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00:07<RuPeRterer>http://paste.debian.net/91330/
00:08<RuPeRterer>oh i think i see that pretty clear lol
00:08<us`0gb>Is line 16 valid?
00:09<centrx>RuPeRterer, Just replace it with what dpkg said
00:09<somiaj>us`0gb: yes
00:09<somiaj>RuPeRterer: you just have dupilcateds, note that line 3 and line 16 are the same. You can probabaly get away with delete lines 1-12, and only keeping 13-17
00:10<RuPeRterer>can this go deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20140208-13:47]/ wheezy main
00:10<us`0gb>I'd probably add deb-src lines after you get everything working.
00:10<somiaj>RuPeRterer: correct, that is line 1. You don' tneed a cdrom line since you are using the internet.
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00:10<somiaj>us`0gb: I would say no right now, trying to be very simple with RuPeRterer (:
00:11<prepangolin>Hi, everybody.
00:11<us`0gb>My apologies.
00:11<us`0gb>Hello prepangolin!
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00:11<prepangolin>I have only one question.
00:11*centrx can't wait
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00:12<prepangolin>Yesterday evening, I've installed wheezy(amd64).
00:12<RuPeRterer>aight
00:12<RuPeRterer>all that is done
00:12<RuPeRterer>somiaj appituide update done
00:12<prepangolin>And then I missed the mirror site setting.
00:12<somiaj>RuPeRterer: okay now install pavucontrol
00:13<us`0gb>Hmm. Fixable, prepangolin.
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00:13<us`0gb>Hold on.
00:13<prepangolin>Now I can't use "apt-get install" command.
00:13<prepangolin>It doesn't work.
00:13<us`0gb>dpkg: tell prepangolin about sources.list
00:13<prepangolin>Anybody help?
00:13<RuPeRterer>okay thats done
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00:13<prepangolin>I got it.
00:13<somiaj>prepangolin: can you give us the output of your apt-get install command (and what you type) at paste.debian.net
00:13<somiaj>prepangolin: good work! (:
00:14<somiaj>RuPeRterer: run that command and use the gui it gives you to tell your machine to use the hdmi audio. I thik some here might be able to tell you what buttons to push. I have no clue (not software I use)
00:14<prepangolin>I see.
00:14<prepangolin>$sudo apt-get install x-window-system
00:15<somiaj>prepangolin: you need to use correct package names
00:15<us`0gb>If you fix sources.list and run "sudo aptitude update", apt-get will start working.
00:15<somiaj>!tell prepangolin about search
00:16<prepangolin>Let me try again.
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00:16<somiaj>prepangolin: the package name you want is 'xserver-xorg'
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00:17<prepangolin>somiaj: Yeah, I want to install minimal installation of X Window system.
00:17<somiaj>prepangolin: xserver-xorg-core is a bit smaller than that one I gave you
00:17<prepangolin>Yeah.
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00:18<RuPeRterer>what a simple way to test the audiop
00:18<prepangolin>Thanks all.
00:19<prepangolin>About your exactly answers.
00:19<prepangolin>How can I kiosk system based on Wheezy?
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00:20<prepangolin>Anybody help?
00:21<somiaj>prepangolin: I'm sure google will give you options. There are various window managers in debian I think you can achive that along with some tips on how to disable switching to tt1, etc
00:21<prepangolin>I want to install some packages on Wheezy base-system.
00:21<somiaj>RuPeRterer: what do y ou use your audio for? I'd say use your music player, video or even a youtube video.
00:23<prepangolin>somiaj: Have you any suggession if you were?
00:23<prepangolin>I want to know about something more details.
00:24<RuPeRterer>try youtube video
00:24<RuPeRterer>shows the audio playin that bars are moving just no audio coming out of speakers on tv
00:24<RuPeRterer>:(
00:25<RuPeRterer>profiel set to hdmi
00:25<RuPeRterer>grr
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00:28<Smokestacks>I'm impressed with the responsiveness of Debian. Everything opens and switches quickly
00:29<centrx>Smokestacks, What desktop environment are you using?
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00:31<Smokestacks>amd64 arch, Gnome v3.4.2... Did a generic netinstall off a disc
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00:31<centrx>prepangolin, Did you look at Instant WebKiosk?
00:32<centrx>prepangolin, Really, https://www.google.com/search?q=kiosk+debian
00:32<Smokestacks>laptop specs: Intel Celeron 900 @2.2 GHz (ew), Intel GM45 express, and I believe 3GB RAM. Win7 was kind of sluggish sometimes
00:33<centrx>Yeah Linux and Debian particularly are more lightweight, and Gnome is one of the bulkier desktop environments/window managers too.
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00:35<Razor>I don't know if this is supported here I was told one time that if it is in the debian repo it is. But I installed "apt-get install tor" is that what I need to run programs through tor ?
00:36<us`0gb>I like Xfce, myself. Fast, responsive, lots of options ...
00:36<centrx>Razor, Yes
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00:37<Razor>And add proxychains to it?
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00:39<Smokestacks>I'm going to stay as vanilla as possible for the time being...at least until I get much more familiar with Linux in general
00:40<centrx>Cool
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00:41<centrx>Razor, Yeah, you may or may not want to make sure you aren't leaking any data
00:41<RuPeRterer>FIANLLY I GOT IT
00:41<RuPeRterer>https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#wheezy
00:41<RuPeRterer>I HAD TO DO THAT TAHNKS FOR ALL U PEOPLE THAT HELP ME BAHAH
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00:47<prepangolin>"aptitude update" command doesn't work well.
00:48<prepangolin>At result is "Couldn't rebuild package cache."
00:48<prepangolin>What do I do next?
00:49<prepangolin>Anybody help?
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00:53<prepangolin>Now my /etc/apt/sources.list file has only security mirror tag.
00:54<prepangolin>What must I add?
00:54<LtL>!tell prepangolin -about wheezy sources.list
00:55<LtL>prepangolin: read the message from dpkg
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00:56<prepangolin>LtL>Can you help me?
00:57<prepangolin>I installed wheezy(amd standard).
00:57<LtL>prepangolin: fix your sources.list and try again
00:57<prepangolin>Fix?
00:57<RuPeRterer>i pm u proper list
00:58<RuPeRterer>nano
00:58<prepangolin>The way?
00:58<N3TbuG>Try to reinstall aptitude
00:58<LtL>no
00:58<RuPeRterer>nano /etc/apt/sources.list
00:59<prepangolin>Now I can't install any package from internet.
00:59<RuPeRterer>do the prep
00:59<LtL>prepangolin: fix your sources.list
00:59<RuPeRterer>do that perp
00:59<RuPeRterer>and put what i pm u in source list
00:59<LtL>prepangolin: read the message from dpkg
00:59<RuPeRterer>i am tryiing to help u prepangolin
01:00<prepangolin>No I mean
01:00<prepangolin>I used $apt-get install.
01:00<RuPeRterer>u need to fix ur sources.list
01:01<prepangolin>Have you any correct sources.list?
01:01<RuPeRterer>pastebin ur source.lst
01:01<prepangolin>Can you send me?
01:01<RuPeRterer>pastebin ur sources.list
01:01<RuPeRterer>I PM THA SHIT TO U
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01:01<LtL>prepangolin: dpkg sent you a proper list in a PM, use it !
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01:02<prepangolin>Can I install packages by using dpkg from internet.
01:02<prepangolin>?
01:04<blumoon>dpkg is for deb files to my understanding
01:04<dpkg>blumoon: are you smoking crack?
01:04<LtL>prepangolin: fix your sources.list andrun update for the last time
01:04<prepangolin>#
01:04<prepangolin># deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20140209-14:16]/ wheezy main
01:04<prepangolin>deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7 _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20140209-14:16]/ wheezy main
01:04<prepangolin>deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
01:04-!-prepangolin was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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01:05<prepangolin>Very sorry everybody.
01:05<prepangolin>It's my fault.
01:07<prepangolin>How can I show you the contents of my sources.list
01:07<Smokestacks>Just start combining your messages into one line instead of four, and use pastebins for logs/etc
01:08<Smokestacks>pastebin.debian.net I think
01:08<LtL>paste.debian.net
01:08<LtL>prepangolin: how many times does dpkg the bot have to send you a sources.list to use?
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01:11<prepangolin>I entered the sources.list 's content paste.debian.net.
01:11<prepangolin>But how do I do next?
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01:12<magyar>hi, how can I compare the ssl fingerprint with the host server?
01:12<prepangolin>http://paste.debian.net/plain/91333
01:12<jm_>prepangolin: you didn't do what dpkg told you to do
01:12<prepangolin>LtL> could you check it?
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01:13<prepangolin>Oh. I will.
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01:15<prepangolin>It wil take time because I chat another computer beside another computer.
01:15<LtL>prepangolin: you are missing two lines, read dpkg's message
01:15<prepangolin>What is it?
01:15<LtL>you were told by dpkg
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01:16<jm_>!wheezy sources.list
01:16<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list".
01:16<themill>prepangolin: the dpkg bot sent you a message, it will have opened up in a new tab in your irc client
01:16<prepangolin>I 've already the problem about running "apt-get install"
01:16<jm_>you have it again above
01:17<jm_>don't add the liens you already have twice
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01:32<prepangolin>Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/http.debian.net_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary_amd64_Packages: Hash Sum mismatch
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01:33<prepangolin> Couldn't rebuild package cache
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01:33<prepangolin>After run "aptitude update", above messages are shown.
01:33<prepangolin>?
01:34<prepangolin>There is something important in "Hash Sum mismatch".
01:34<prepangolin>I think, and you?
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01:39<jm_>prepangolin: try removing individual files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ (as root) and then try again, if that fails, try using a different mirror (you'll need to change http.debian.net to something else)
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01:39<chealer>prepangolin: if I was you, I would start by trying again
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01:50<prepangolin>Only I want install plymouth package.
01:50<prepangolin>What can I do?
01:51<jm_>you were given two options how to proceed
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01:51<prepangolin>Anyway run "apt-get install plymouth" doesn't working.
01:51<prepangolin>Am I right?
01:53<prepangolin>I will reinstall wheezy by using DVD-ROM.
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01:54<prepangolin>Good bye everybody! and thx for your kindness!!!
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02:19<Pascal_1>Hello
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02:24<Pascal_1>I've got a problem with a dell optiplex 780 on sid, very often the pc hang and the only solution is to reboot it. Before reboot it i can see on dmesg this line : "Apr 2 12:40:16 Debian kernel: [ 7016.808012] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... render ring idle"
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02:27<Pascal_1>the problem is the problem is , i dont know where to search to solve this problem
02:27<Pascal_1>does someone could help me ?
02:28<jm_>have you tried the 3.14 kernel?
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02:29<Pascal_1>no yet
02:30<Pascal_1>you think it could solve this problem ?
02:31<Pascal_1>aptitude doesnt propose this new kernel
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02:34<jm_>I know it includes some changes for the i915 stuff - see http://blog.ffwll.ch/2014/01/neat-drmi915-stuff-for-314.html
02:34<jm_>you have two options - use the one from experimental or build your own
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02:38<Pascal_1>jm_: or wait it in sid ?
02:38<Pascal_1>;-)
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02:41<jm_>Pascal_1: possibly
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04:37<miguel>hola
04:37<jm_>!es
04:37<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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05:02<barnoux>Hello, i have a problem of resolution when i'm trying to connect to my debian wheezy thought NoMachine
05:02<barnoux>Is it the good channel for this problem?
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05:03<jm_>where did you get nomachine debs?
05:03<barnoux>from the nomachine website
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05:04<barnoux>directly from here https://www.nomachine.com/download/download&id=3
05:04<jm_>then you will have to find out where support for that is
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05:04<barnoux>yes i ever post a thread today but i wanted to ask on this channel because it seems to be a grafic server problem
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05:15<jm_>well you can easily test if that's true - start X server yourself
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05:16<barnoux>jm_ when i connect via xrdp there is no problem i'm in 1920 resolution but when i connect via nomachine i'm in 1024
05:16<barnoux>i really don't understand what happen
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05:19<jm_>barnoux: you'll really need to get help from nomachine related support options
05:20<barnoux>ok
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05:20<barnoux>i also have a problem with randx
05:21<barnoux>randr, i don't know it its the source of the problem
05:21<barnoux>but via xrdp when i try do display the resolution i have: Could not get screen information, RANDR extension is too old ( must be at least 1.2)
05:21<rfree>how to use online computer A to download (and save to media like USB/CD) data that might be needed on OFFLINE computer B to install package foo?
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05:29<Derick>Hi. I've been running into: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742933 (Network Manager stops managing connections, and disconnects connections when I close my laptop's lid). Is there a way how I can prevent NetworkManager from doing anything at all? I don't want it to put NM into "sleep" mode when I close the lid.
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05:45<K>Bonjour.
05:46<Derick>In case other people run into the same issue:
05:46<Derick>I found it though: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GNOME/3.8-upgrade-guide#Suspend_on_laptop_lid_close
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06:02<jm_>rfree: have you tried apt-zip?
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06:09<rfree>jm_: not really
06:09<rfree>tried apt-offline
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06:10<rfree>jm_: this will provide me with .deb files, that will not get the normall verification. This would be use-case for heaving each deb signed individually one day
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06:11<rfree>maybe I should instead put up and synchronize privoxy cache
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07:19<gondolfier>hi, can someone help me with my bridge setup? the LAN is 192.168.1.0/24. The server (host) with two eth has the IP *.210 and the VMs should be in the same net. I have some problems understandind which gateway and network or ip are assigned to the bridge.
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07:23<im40>hi
07:23<im40>i am shekar from india
07:24<mongrol>greetings
07:24<im40>nice, any body like to talk to me friends
07:25<jm_>im40: this is not a chat channel, this channel is about debian support
07:25<im40>oh sorry
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07:25<im40>bye
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07:29<gondolfier>here an example i found: http://paste.debian.net/91393/ afaik the gateway is the gateway that the host would expose to the VMs. is that right? And via the "address" users from the LAN can reach the br0 device. Is that right?
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07:34<tester>Everybody hello
07:34<gondolfier>so my setup should be this: http://paste.debian.net/91394/ i think… any comments?
07:34<gondolfier>hi tester
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07:37<tester>I am new
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07:42<petn-randall>Welcome aboard, tester. If you have debian-related questions, you can ask them here. For other discussions, we have #debian-offtopic.
07:43<Brigo>gondolfier, are you trying to configure a network for VMs?
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07:46<gondolfier>Brigo: yes kvm setup
07:46<Brigo>gondolfier, install libvirt-bin. It will create and configure a network for your VM automatically.
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07:52<gondolfier>it is installed already and didn't configure it. AFAIK it only creates a NAT Brigo
07:53<Brigo>gondolfier, no, it creates a bridge too. virtbr0
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07:53<Brigo>so you can attach your VM networks.
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07:59<gondolfier>Brigo: let me guess. it creates it when you setup the first vm?
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08:00<Brigo>no, i don't think so.
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08:01<gondolfier>never the less i got the bridge working manually. \o/
08:01<Brigo>gondolfier, try virsh net-info default
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08:04<maxpruts>test
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08:04<maxpruts>test
08:04<petn-randall>maxpruts: It works, you're on IRC.
08:04<maxpruts>ey guys
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08:04<gondolfier>not active and no autostart, but virbr0 is there. ip and ifup cant find it. :-| Brigo
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08:05<Brigo>gondolfier, so virsh net-start default
08:05<Brigo>an if you like it autostart on boot: virsh net-autostart default
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08:06<gondolfier>works. But will 192.168.122.0/24 be reachable from LAN? Brigo
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08:07<Brigo>with the nat? try it.
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08:20<gondolfier>Brigo: i can't find virt-install do you know in which package it is?
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08:22<jm_>!tell gondolfier about apt-file
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08:29<gondolfier>it is virtinst not virtinstall :) but it recommends GUI… so aptitude -R is handy
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08:32<jm_>the command is virt-install, the package is virtinst
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09:17<tan>ดกหกดหก
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09:17<tan>กก
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11:31<juzza1>on my debian, gimp-python is marked as a virtual package. When I try to import gimpfu in python, I get "ImportError: No module named gimpfu". I cannot remove, reinstall or do anything about the gimp-python virtual package. how to fix this?
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11:39<lvmm>hello everyone!
11:39<alumno>hola
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11:39<lvmm>it seems there is a bug in su-to-root script in wheezy
11:39<alumno>adios
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11:39<lvmm>i've installed system-config-lvm and it won't start under my uid
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12:30<JoaoCarneiro>Ahoy!
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12:34<simvl>hello
12:35<simvl>i have huge problem
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12:35<simvl>can some1 help me
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12:37<Smokestacks>everyone reads how to get here, but no one reads the rest of it where it says to just state/ask your problem -_- ...then he disconnects, word.
12:37<JoaoCarneiro>that or he's just nagging...
12:39<wave>E: Release file for http://cdn.debian.net/debian/dists/experimental/Release is expired (invalid since 1h 38min 16s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
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12:39<wave>something wrong with the experimental repo?
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12:48<babilen>wave: You might want to try http.debian.net in lieu of cdn.debian.net
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13:11<wave>babilen: okey
13:11<wave>I try that
13:11<babilen>dpkg: tell wave about http.debian.net
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13:38<Hakann>EUZUBILLAHIMINEÞÞEYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
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13:39<frangor>hola
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13:39<somiaj>!es
13:39<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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13:43<frangor>somiaj, I'm not speak spanish. sorry :S
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13:45<somiaj>frangor: oh no problem, yea if you have a question in english ask here. I was just helping if you wanted to speak spanish. (:
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14:01<quixotic>hi, quick question. I am trying to set up a torrentbox on my raspberry pi, it will use Transmission. I've got to the point where I need to create a rule for my router's firewall to allow the traffic. What I would like to ask is whether I need to open to port for inbound or outbound communication and more precisely if it has to be TCP, UDP or both. thanks
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14:06<petn-randall>!raspbian
14:06<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
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14:15<quixotic>the fact it's for the raspberry is irrelevant, I could've said "my debian laptop" and it would be the same question.
14:16<SynrG>!based on debian
14:16<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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14:18<SynrG>or see:
14:18<SynrG>!transmission
14:18<dpkg>Transmission is an open source, cross-platform and lightweight <BitTorrent> client. http://wiki.debian.org/BitTorrent/Transmission http://www.transmissionbt.com/ #transmission on irc.freenode.net.
14:18<quixotic>jesus christ.
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14:19<SynrG>no, i dont think he does that kind of work
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14:31<sysvalve>come on guys. Is it so difficult to use your time to help someone that didn't even care to google for bittorrent + firewall ports??? is THAT BAD?
14:31<sysvalve>you are ruining the communit
14:31<sysvalve>*community
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14:34<Smokestacks>google the problem vs access IRC...about the same amount of initial effort, but I guess people assume live assistance means they won't have to read or do any thinking
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14:37<sysvalve>Smokestacks: free support
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14:39<YoungPadawan>quixotic: that depends on your transmission config
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14:39<YoungPadawan>you could make your life a lot easyer if you used uPNP, though you might not want to use it
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15:02<magyar>hi, my "Screen energy saving" timeout stopped working, the screen just stays on. How can I get KDE to put the LCD in standby mode?
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15:04<chealer>magyar: despite reboots?
15:04<liam>Hello.
15:04<liam>How is everyone/
15:04<liam>?
15:04<liam>Important News: Pollution very high in UK. People advised to stay at home.
15:05<magyar>chealer: yeap, tried rebooting disconnecting the power from the monitor etc. It was working up until last week.
15:05<liam>magyar
15:05<magyar>Ahh, I think I know what it is
15:05<magyar>the 3.13-bpo kernel is crap
15:05<magyar>my laptop overheats the fan does not turn on at all
15:06<magyar>so I need to boot into 3.12, then it all works
15:06<liam>magyar is the current pollution in the UK (maximum level) releated to goverment created chemtrails from planes
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15:06<liam>?
15:06<musca>mega offtopic
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15:07<liam>musca, mainstream media won't talk about chemtrails except to occasinally write them off as some "crazy conspiracy theory"...yet the proof is their that they are real. The chinese and other asian goverments to the same
15:07<liam>but
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15:07<liam>they admit it
15:08<liam>our goverment is lieing about the use of chemicals in planes
15:08<liam>so we have no idea what they are spraying or trying to do to us
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15:10<liam>Hello sexy.
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15:11<sysvalve>liam: you are right
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15:11<sysvalve>well, not really. musca is right
15:11<sysvalve>offtopic
15:12<sysvalve>and saying "they are real" as proof of them being real is... well...
15:12<sysvalve>whatever
15:12<Smokestacks>way offtopic, isn't there a debian-offtopic or something?
15:12<planetmaker>#debian-offtopic ? :)
15:13<sysvalve>Smokestacks: interesting concept. #something-offtopic
15:13<sysvalve>so you know that in that channel you can talk about everything EXCEPT something?
15:13<sysvalve>:P
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15:13<liam>sysvalve.. it's easy enough to research for anyone who interested google proof of chemtrails or look at the articles where other goverments admit use of chemtrails... and then observe the same patterns they create are created here
15:13<Smokestacks>haha
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15:14<sysvalve>liam: yes, if you google hard enough, you can find everyting you want
15:14<sysvalve>*everything
15:15<liam>Geoenigneering is real do the research
15:15<sysvalve>liam: of course the patterns are the same. The fucking planes follow the same paths always
15:15<Smokestacks>I guess he didn't google the physics of contrails
15:16<sysvalve>Smokestacks: he didn't google or learn about physics
15:16<sysvalve>or science
15:16<sysvalve>or how to proof things
15:17<liam>thats it
15:17<liam>im leaving
15:17<liam>not wasting my time with idiots anymore
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15:18<Smokestacks>lol
15:18<Smokestacks>hemad?
15:19<sysvalve>seems so
15:19<Smokestacks>why join a support channel and start talking about chemtrails? -_- some people
15:19<sysvalve>yeah
15:19<sysvalve>it's sad. I usually enjoy trollink those people
15:19<sysvalve>*trolling
15:19<sysvalve>what happens to my fingers???
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15:20<Smokestacks>those government chemicals are messing with your motor functions, clearly
15:20<zykotick9>sysvalve: blame it on exposure to checmicals, from chemtrails ;)
15:20<SynrG>so, #debian-offtopic, please?
15:21<sysvalve>lol
15:21<sysvalve>yes, sorry.
15:21*sysvalve stops offtopic-ing
15:22<SynrG>no, we love offtopicing. just on the right channel :)
15:22<Smokestacks>just joined it ha
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15:34<Roxxor>Hello, I lost my password for my system and I want to recover it via chroot.
15:34<Roxxor>tim@tim-Compaq:~$ sudo chroot /media/tim/xbian-beta2/root/@ /bin/sh
15:34<Roxxor>chroot: Befehl „/bin/sh“ konnte nicht ausgeführt werden: Fehler im Format der Programmdatei
15:34<Roxxor>(appproximate translation: /bin/sh could not be executed: Mistake in "programfile")
15:34-!-Roxxor was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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15:36<Roxxor>Hello! I want to recover my lost password via chroot. http://paste.debian.net/91525/ Thank you for your help :)
15:36<somiaj>Roxxor: are you mixing arches. Is that an xbian devince with arm arch you are trying to chroot into from a x86 system?
15:37<Roxxor>yes. Ah ok. I see. Got it :D So whats my possibility to recover the password? :/
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15:38<somiaj>there are some ways you can boot into single user mode with out a password I belive
15:39<Roxxor>hm. I just started configuring the pi. I guess to find out how this works on it takes longer than just restarting the config.. Thank you for making me clear why this cant work :D
15:39<somiaj>Roxxor: yea looks like you can pass an init=/bin/sh or init=/bin/bash to your boot with grub and do it from there. You could also use the install media, that recovery console should give you a terminal on the device
15:39<somiaj>Roxxor: http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-reset-debian-root-password.html
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15:41<Roxxor>I think raspberry pi has no GRUB... So this possibility is not there. Thank you! Ill configure from new :/
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15:43<somiaj>Roxxor: yea I really need to get my pi out and play with it. but i really have nothing I want to do with it at the time
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15:45<Roxxor>somiaj: Well, I'm using it as a mediacenter and as different kind of servers. I regularly mess something up without making backups. I should change my behaviour there :D
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15:49<zane>is this the right room for some help with lxle?
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15:53<somiaj>zane: lxle? did you mean lxde? This is a good place for general help on debian systems, but there may be better channels for that paticular set of software. Just ask your question if it is for a debian box and maybe someone will know. (:
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15:55<zane>no, it's the llubuntu platform, so I installed the ubuntu disk utility, and hfplus package, and I'm trying to mediate a file swap between an ntfs system, and hfs+ for apple
15:56<zane>but I can't seem to be able to get my computer to format the HFS+ system
15:56<zane>it's listed, and it says it formatted properly
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15:56<zane>but it won't mount or be recognized by the computer
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15:58<somiaj>zane: is this on a debian or ubuntu machine?
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15:58<zane>lubuntu
15:59<zane>ah, I seem to be in the wrong chat, sorry
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15:59<somiaj>oh lubuntu, either way it is not #debian. I would use there support. I cannot think of a good channel for general hfs+ support which might be a better place to go
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16:01<houms>what is recommended way to setup vsftpd with tls? specifically the users I assume have to have account on box and secondly the proper shell env for these users?
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16:02<magyar>chealer: yeap it was the kernel upgrade (linux-image-3.13-0.bpo.1-amd64) the causes acpi issues
16:03<magyar>linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64 works like a champ
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16:04<somiaj>magyar: Did you check the bts or file a bug. Only issue with using the 3.12 image is it won't have any secuirty updates
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16:05<somiaj>I know there is some secuirty in backports but there is non guarnteed anyways so it might be much of a difference.
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16:08<houms>is it better to comment auth required pam_shells.so out or add /sbin/nologin to /etc/shells
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16:18<magyar>somiaj: well at least the 3.12 is not going to melt my laptop :)
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16:18<magyar>with 3.13 the cpu fan is not spinning and the monitor is always on
16:19<magyar>I'll go with 3.12 for now
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16:22<somiaj>magyar: you can remove the meta package and it won't automatically upgrade the kernel.
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16:22<somiaj>magyar: I'd still look for a bug that relates, there might be one in the upstream kernel bts too
16:23<magyar>I'll will, thanks somiaj
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16:33<valerie_>Could someone tell me how to get to downloaded files in Solydx? Thanks.
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16:42<houms>valerie_ this is debian channel Solydx not supported here . try #solydxk
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16:56<shantal>Hello, could I please get an advice as to which programming language is best for first time learners?
16:57<devil_>shantal: one that comes to mind is python
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16:59<shantal>devil_: Thank you. So you think Python would be the obvious choice? Or is it more complicated than that to decide?
17:00<devil_>shantal: it also depends on what you want to do with it. but doing a bit of reading should clear that.
17:00<devil_>gotta run , have fun
17:00<shantal>ok, thank you
17:02<shantal>There are many opinions around the web. But I wanted an advice from debian people...
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17:05<magyar>how do I rebuild dkms modules for a kernel?
17:05<whiiteepoony>who speak spanish?
17:05<ompaul>!es
17:05<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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17:06<whiiteepoony>#debian-es
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17:06<ompaul>whiiteepoony: ...>>>>>>> /join #debian-es
17:06<whiiteepoony>ok. thanks ompaul
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17:13<dagoberto>can someone explain me that high temperature ? http://pastie.org/8992460
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17:13<centrx>dagoberto, Malfunctioning sensor?
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17:14<ompaul>unsupported chipset m
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17:14<dagoberto>centrx, I don't know, maybe...I'm not the owner of this machine... he said this pc keeps rebooting, so I thought was a high /cpu temp
17:15<IT>Hello
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17:15<centrx>dagoberto, If the CPU were really 6812 degrees, it would have melted already and you would be standing across the room
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17:15<SynrG>dagoberto: or it *could* be the temperature of the surface of the sun
17:15<SynrG>put your hand in there and check
17:15<IT>lol
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17:15<SynrG>http://www.factsmonk.com/how_hot_is_the_sun
17:15<dagoberto>I know, but why it keeps rebooting ?
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17:16<SynrG>"The outer layer of the sun averages roughly 11,000 degrees Fahrenheit." and 11000F in C is 6093 according to Wolfram|Alpha
17:16<dagoberto>SynrG, ask your mom how hot I am first LOL
17:16<centrx>"Temperatures are believed to be as “low” as 7,000 degrees Fahrenheit on sunspots. Heck, you practically need a coat!" <- dagoberto's CPU
17:17<SynrG>:)
17:17<SynrG>maybe the temperature is already burnt up, hence the false reading?
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17:17<centrx>Iron, out of the ground, melts at around 1510 degrees C (2750°F). Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C (2500°F).
17:17<SynrG>er, *CPU* is already burnt up
17:17<SynrG>ahem
17:18<SynrG>taking the sensor with it
17:18<SynrG>so, high spike of temp from CPU -> sensor fried -> whacked out reading, is what i was trying to say
17:19<centrx>"Tungsten (often referred to as wolfram in other parts of the world) has the highest melting point of any metal, 6,191°F (3,422°C)"
17:19<petn-randall>lm-sensors needs a conversion factor for most sensors, so it's likely that it's just not set in the config file.
17:19<SynrG>spontaneous reboots could very well be hardware, anyway
17:19<SynrG>so i think you're right to be concerned
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17:19<SynrG>that's the GPU. do you have a spare?
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17:20<SynrG>if you think it's causing a problem, pull the card and fall back to onboard GPU
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17:20<SynrG>(if you have one)
17:20<IT>does any one know where the new config file is in the new unrealircd ?
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17:27<Eryn_1983_FL>hey peeps whats that motion sensing input device? leap something?
17:27<Eryn_1983_FL>nm leap motion
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17:47<rennreh>hi
17:48<rennreh>I have debian 7.3 working on my eee netbook and after installing there isnt acpi working. how can i launch a programm to show the accumuatortime?
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17:49<centrx>rennreh, Running "acpi" should tell you
17:51<rennreh>centrx, rennreh@r3d3b:~$ ls /proc/acpi/
17:51<rennreh>button wakeup
17:51<rennreh>rennreh@r3d3b:~$
17:51<rennreh>ehm here should I find some aacpi things about accumulator, cpu fan and so on
17:51<rennreh>but there is it
17:52<centrx>The command is "acpi", do you have that command?
17:52<centrx>rennreh, For CPU fan, install lm-sensors
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17:53<rennreh>yes I have acpi, nice it works .. do you now a little app for icewm?
17:53<rennreh>lm-sensors, nice :)
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17:53<centrx>I do not know about icewm plugin for it, I am sure there is a feature/plugin for battery usage
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18:01<YoungPadawan>centrx: with icewm you might enjoy conky
18:01<centrx>rennreh, ^
18:01<YoungPadawan>centrx: :)
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18:03*SamB wonders why the kernel is surprised that my non-SMP system wouldn't have the boot CPU listed in ACPI or so ...
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18:08<rennreh>YoungPadawan, conky is nice thx :)
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18:09<YoungPadawan>;)
18:10<YoungPadawan>haven't used it in years
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18:20<Vikinger>i need to know my current running nvidia driver
18:21<Vikinger>how can i check that
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18:25<YoungPadawan>lsmod
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18:25<Vikinger>thank you
18:25<YoungPadawan>modinfo
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18:31<babilen>Vikinger: "lspci -knn|grep -A2 VGA"
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18:33<Geronimo>des français ici ?
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18:36<brunetto>(server irc.oltreirc.org
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18:42<YoungPadawan>Geronimo: try #debian-fr
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19:37<Vikinger>i have downloaded nvidia drivers and tried to install them, it always fails because it tells me to remove the debian packages first
19:38<Vikinger>i have taken all i could see and it still gives me the same warning
19:38<Vikinger>can anyone help me ?
19:38<YoungPadawan>dpkg -l|grep -i nvidia
19:38<dpkg>YoungPadawan: I don't know, could you explain it?
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19:38<YoungPadawan>Vikinger: ^
19:41<Vikinger>YoungPadawan: is that all ?
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19:42<babilen>Vikinger: We only support the method as detailed in: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
19:42<Vikinger>YoungPadawan: i see, so i just have to aptitude remove all of those ?
19:42<babilen>judd: v nvidia-kernel-dkms
19:42<judd>Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.88-1+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates/non-free: 304.117-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 319.82-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 331.49-1; sid/non-free: 331.49-1
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19:43<babilen>Vikinger: As you can see ^^^ you can also grab a slightly newer version from wheezy-backports/non-free if you want that
19:43<YoungPadawan>Vikinger: apt-get remove --purge <packages>
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19:43<YoungPadawan>Vikinger: stick to what these knowlegeable people are saying, it's a good path
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19:44<babilen>Vikinger: You are also not very precise in your error descriptions: What exactky did you download and which packages are to be removed?
19:44<Vikinger>babilen: that may work better actually, how can i do that ?
19:44<babilen>"that" ?
19:44<Vikinger>babilen: i mean, from wheezy-backports/non-free
19:45<Vikinger>slightly new
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19:45<Vikinger>YoungPadawan: Yes conunting on doing that, i am
19:46<babilen>Vikinger: Add wheezy-backports to your sources.list (you want one such as: http://paste.debian.net/91557/, run "apt-get update". Then "apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,')" followed by "aptitude -t wheezy-backports -r install nvidia-kernel-dkms" -- Configure as detailed in https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Configuration
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19:47<Vikinger>babilen: can you quickly guide me thru that process ?
19:47<YoungPadawan>Vikinger: that was really step by step...^
19:48<Vikinger>ok, be right back, thank you guys, babilen YoungPadawan :)
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19:49<babilen>Vikinger: Do *not* use nvidia-xconfig and also don't use a /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- Please also check beforehand if your card is supported by that version. For that run "lspci -nn|grep -i vga" and search for the pciid (alphanumerical identifier at the end) on ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/319.82/README/README.txt
19:49<Vikinger>babilen: before i start all of that can i take a peak and see whats the version of this "slightly" newer version ?
19:49<babilen>Vikinger: The wiki is also very detailed (I should add the backports method one of these days)
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19:49<babilen>Vikinger: See above in judd's output.
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19:50<Vikinger>ok
19:50<babilen>Did you see it now?
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19:55<Vikinger>babilen: yes, again thank you very much for your help
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19:55<Vikinger>debian continues to have an excelent support :)
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19:56<babilen>enjoy
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20:00<saiyan>How do I make transmission work? or any torrent client for that matter
20:00<babilen>start it?
20:01<YoungPadawan>babilen: lol
20:01<saiyan>but how do I get a torrent
20:01<Nemoder>a torrent of what?
20:02<saiyan>anything
20:02<YoungPadawan>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent
20:02<YoungPadawan>there you go
20:02<YoungPadawan>debian stable, cd1
20:02<Vikinger>saiyan: just do exactly like in windows after you start transmission
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20:02<saiyan>ok
20:02*babilen is still not sure what saiyan's problem is
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20:52<_Alex>Hi. I've installed libcv-dev from the repos (which came with a couple extra opencv packages), but it didn't came with /usr/lib/pkgconfig/opencv.pc
20:52<_Alex>For pkg-config... Is there anyway to obtain it from the repos?
20:53<dondelelcaro>_Alex: that's in libopencv-dev
20:53<dondelelcaro>!tell _Alex -about pdo
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20:55<_Alex>Oh, of course. My bad. Thanks dondelelcaro!
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21:22<dentt>how should i go about running a program like cryptsetup through ssh using a script? i'm making a script to run at a cron job which will connect to a remote server, unlock an encrypted luks drive, put some stuff in, then close it. but what's the best way to do that without needing ssh to log in as root each time?
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21:35<K-lined>guys i have a small problem: sudo chmod 777 folder
21:35<K-lined>does not change the chmod
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21:39<dualbus>K-lined: what does: ls -ld folder show?
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21:41<K-lined>drwx------ 1 julian julian 0 Mar 31 05:11 .
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21:43<zykotick9>K-lined: is this on a NTFS or FAT partition?
21:44<K-lined>ntfs
21:44<K-lined>mmm
21:44<K-lined>i think
21:44<dentt>ntfw does not support linux permissions
21:44<dentt>*ntfs
21:44<zykotick9>K-lined: you can't apply POSIX permission to NTFS (or fat)
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21:45<K-lined>pfff
21:45<K-lined>so ...
21:45<K-lined>how can i share that partition
21:45<K-lined>with other user
21:45<K-lined>or ... someone such as "guest"
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21:50<saiyan>hi um, I'm trying to use weechat and it keeps saying command not found
21:50<saiyan>i have already installed it via "apt-get update install weechat"
21:50<saiyan>but i can't run the program
21:51<LtL>saiyan: try weechat-curses
21:51<saiyan>thanks LtL, how was I supposed to know to do that? lol
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21:52<LtL>saiyan: /usr/share/doc/weechat-doc/
21:53<saiyan>holy crap there are a lot of files in /usr/share/doc
21:53<LtL>saiyan: indeed
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21:57<abrotman>you know .. docs and stuff ...
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22:10<jimpop>with the advancement of "the web" fully underway, debian should make an effort to not bloat packages and systems with stuff that is so rarely ever discovered, yet alone used.
22:10<jimpop>if for nothing that the sake of some inodes
22:11<nevyn>jimpop: no.
22:11<nevyn>just.. hell no
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22:15<Eryn_1983_FL>hey guys for some reason my dang display keeps messing up. i am now up to display #3 DISPLAY=:3.0
22:15<Eryn_1983_FL>how do i prevent this? i have just removed another login manager and i think it did it. does it reset with a reboot guys?
22:15<Eryn_1983_FL>its there a command?
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22:16<nevyn>Eryn_1983_FL: do you have multiple sessions running?
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22:19<Eryn_1983_FL>i did
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22:32<kta>perdón, estoy probando huayra de devian y está bueno
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23:42<tornodo>hello
23:44<tornodo>when i try to install a theme ,I got an error like this:dependency is not satisfiable : mdm(>=1.1.8)
23:44<tornodo>what does this mean?
23:45<somiaj>tornodo: what theme are you trying to install and how are you isntalling it?
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23:48<tornodo>hello?
23:48<tornodo>Is there anybody who can help me?
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23:49<themill>tornodo: lots of people, but you need to provide the information requested
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23:53<stderr_dk>judd: v mdm
23:53<judd>Package: mdm on i386 -- squeeze: 0.1.3-2; wheezy: 0.1.3-2; jessie: 0.1.3-2.1; sid: 0.1.3-2.1
23:54<stderr_dk>tornodo: Where did you get that theme?
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23:55<tornodo>I try to install a theme named mdm-html5-themes-samriggs_0.1.3.deb from gdebi
23:55<tornodo>debian 7.4 x64
23:55<tornodo>http://gnome-look.org/
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