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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-04-04

---Logopened Fri Apr 04 00:00:01 2014
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00:03<somiaj>tornodo: I think you might be able to fix your problems with 'apt-get -f install'
00:04<somiaj>tornodo: it should pull in the mdm package, and just a word of advise. Just be careful when you download .deb and make sure they are made for debian wheezy
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00:06<tornodo>somiaj:thank you very much
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00:07<albert>ubuntu
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00:10<stelicho>Hi all, I installed the memtest86 kernel and booted into the test. I have 24g and the test has been running for 11 hours. So far the test has picked up almost 900,000,000 errors. How can I determine which ram stick is the bad one while the test is still running? how do you determine what the address is?
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00:44<somiaj>stelicho: I think you will have to remove all sticks and test them one at a time
00:45<stelicho>with the memtest86?
00:45<somiaj>yes
00:45<stelicho>ok thank you
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01:19<chealer>stelicho: memtest86+ shows the address (I would have guessed memtest86 does too)
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03:05<frlttrwrd>is there any good replacement for "sleep 600; mplayer dingdingding.wav" in the repositories?
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03:07<frlttrwrd>hm, alarm-clock seems like an obvious choice, I'll try that first
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03:08<jm_>you can also use at for this
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03:24<rual93>hi
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03:29<rual93>kaiket are you there?
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06:12<computerguy901>hello
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07:34<Guest5416>Hi, which is the latest gnome I can install on wheezy?
07:36<Guest5416>can i install 3.12?
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07:37<babilen>no
07:38<babilen>Guest5416: Wheezy ships 3.4
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07:38<babilen>Guest5416: http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.12-status.html might be of interest
07:38<Guest5416>Understand. I have another question please. If I open an other HDD on my PC it always asks for password. Can I swith it off?
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07:40<TED>holaaaa
07:40<TED>aguante san lorezooooooooooooooo
07:41<TED>eeuu DEBHELPER
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07:41<babilen>dpkg: es-social TED
07:41<dpkg>TED: Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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07:47<daemonkeeper>Is there a way to get Chromium (OpenJDK) to execute JNLP browser thingies? I always have to download them and execute with javaws
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08:10<airbourne>Hila
08:10<airbourne>Hola
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08:24<grlpx>In order to store a dynamical string, I think one approach in linux is to use char *string = mmap(NULL, page_size, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_GROWSDOWN|MAP_ANONYMOUS|MAP_PRIVATE, -1, 0); and then store the characters as string[-j] = newchar. As you may think, this have some drawbacks, specifically one is that the strings end up stored backwards. Why in linux MAP_GROWSUP is not defined in Linux for X86??? MAP_GROWSUP would allow people to make dynamical strin
08:24<grlpx>gs and other hackerish stuff in a simple way
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08:25<jm_>why would you bother using mmap for this?
08:26<grlpx>To let the kernel allocate the memory for me
08:26<jm_>are you talking about running in kernel or user space?
08:26<grlpx>User space
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08:26<jm_>why not simply use malloc(3) instead?
08:27<jm_>or strdup?
08:27<grlpx>otherwise, I have to check for boundaries if my string grows too much with malloc, and them do malloc again and copy the buffer
08:27<grlpx>instead with mmap the space will grow automagically
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08:28<jm_>you'll have to ask kernel folks about GROWSUP thing I suspect
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08:29<jm_>or maybe it does that if you don't specify GROWSDOWN?
08:29<grlpx>nono, it just segfault in that case
08:29<grlpx>you can easily try
08:29<grlpx>where are the kernel folks?
08:30<jm_>kernel mailing list is probably the best option, alternatively maybe someome already looked at this and you can find some answers on the net, I personally don't have a clue on this
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08:33<grlpx>It would be very usefull to have GROWSUP option!!!
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08:34<grlpx>Debian could implement this as an extension, would be a very easy patch
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08:35<grlpx>since the flag is already in the kernel enabled for Itanium
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09:21<makbet85>hello
09:22<makbet85>I'm installed libboost 1.55 from testing on stable, but the files don't appear in /usr/lib/
09:22<makbet85>any ideas?
09:23<makbet85>I only see 1.49 which was installed before
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09:23<blast007>how did you install it?
09:24<makbet85>apt-get install libboost-serialization1.55.0/testing
09:24<blast007>you shouldn't mix testing and stable
09:24<makbet85>I know, but I need 1.55 urgently
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09:25<makbet85>the command ran ok, it said at the end it's replacing 1.49 with 1.55, but the lib files are not there
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09:27<musca>makbet85: you can list the content of the package: dpkg -L libboost-serialization1.55.0
09:28<makbet85>ok, they're in a different dir
09:28<makbet85>thanks :)
09:28<musca>that was the plan :)
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09:30<musca>makbet85: but seriously, mixing stable with testing can bite you really quickly.
09:30<planetmaker>quite indeed
09:30*planetmaker has been bitten :)
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09:46<godev>hi, i've a problem with initramfs-tools as it shows
09:46<godev>http://paste.debian.net/plain/91670
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09:52<manuel>hey hey
09:52<Dweller>hi :)
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10:17<simondaemon>hello, can anyone help me with a kernel panic problem at debian stable? (screenpicture-> http://picpaste.com/upload.php)
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10:18<simondaemon>http://picpaste.com/kernel_panic-dVTwuZLe.jpg
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10:18<centrx>simondaemon, You have no information about what caused this?
10:19<simondaemon>no - i can just take a guess..
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10:19<simondaemon>its now and then when i run programs and surf the net.
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10:20<simondaemon>maybe broken memory or something broken at my mainboard? (really have no clue)
10:20<centrx>If it is that random it seems like it would be a hardware failure
10:20<centrx>Does it work if you use the kernel in wheezy-backports?
10:21<simondaemon>havent tried a kernel from wheezy-backports.
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10:21<simondaemon>can you tell me the command how to install it?
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10:24<centrx>dpkg: tell simondaemon about wheezy-backports
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10:25<centrx>simondaemon, Using the backports kernel will work if the error is caused by some hardware that is not supported properly on the old kernel, or maybe some rare bug in the kernel.
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10:26<simondaemon>okay thanks a lot, but I guess its some hardware failure than (comp is already bout 4 yrs old)
10:27<simondaemon>since no new hardware is used and the failure occurs since short, guess it wont be a rare bug in the kernel.
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10:28<simondaemon>anyone knows a "good netbook that got power and can run debian (hardware support?)
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11:56<jcwan>hi
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12:00<ivanoov>hi :)
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12:43<awal>I have a lot of command line programs installed in my Openbox and sometimes I forget the names or don't use them. Any command I can run in terminal for check all the programs I have installed without checking the apt history?
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12:44<centrx>awal, ls /usr/bin
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12:52<awal>centrx, thanks, the command works and is very useful, but all is listed. How to list just those installed by a specific user? I mean those that are not installed by Debian installer or by apt as dependencies or recommends during upgrades?
12:53<centrx>awal, Usually, binaries like that are in /usr/local/bin or ~/local/bin
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12:55<awal>centrx, ok, ok.I'll check there too. Thanks :)
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13:05<awal>ls /usr/bin lists packages with different colours: red, green, brown and blue light. what's the purpose?
13:06<centrx>awal, blue ones are symlinks (shortcuts), green ones are executables, red ones are suid, and so forth
13:06<planetmaker>different file permissions
13:07<awal>oh, ok. thanks
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13:07<nocturnal>I've managed to xrandr --newmode, and then --addmode to my new monitor, and change to that mode and it works. but can someone please help me set this permanently in xorg.conf.d? I tried like this http://sprunge.us/BLaL in 10-screen.conf but restarting xdm gives me 1024x768 again. also here is my glxinfo http://sprunge.us/RffL
13:08<nocturnal>the mode I wrote in Modes is the one I used --newmode to add in xrandr.
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13:08<awal>centrx, planetmaker, thanks for you attention.
13:09<nocturnal>using jessie
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13:09<nocturnal>also Xorg.log http://sprunge.us/MNNW I can't see any weird errors or warnings.
13:10<nocturnal>and it works with xrandr
13:10<somiaj>nocturnal: I don't think you need that much info, I think you only need the DefaultDepth and SubSection "Display" part and don't need ot have the monintor and device section
13:10<somiaj>nocturnal: but the main thing is you are missing the Modeline command to define your new 2560x1440_60.00 mode line
13:10<DNS>!testing
13:10<dpkg>Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <jessie>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <wheezy->jessie> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers.
13:10<nocturnal>hm ok I thought defining it with xrandr was enough
13:10<nocturnal>because it shows up in the Xorg.log
13:11<nocturnal>uh wait that's not mine
13:11<nocturnal>[ 927.071] (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "2560x1440"x0.0 241.50 2560 2608 2640 2720 1440 1443 1448 1481 +hsync -vsync (88.8 kHz eP)
13:11<somiaj>nocturnal: I woudln't think xrandr would be persistant to the next reboot of xorg
13:11<nocturnal>me neither, and you're right
13:11<somiaj>you need to define it in the Monitor Section of your xorg.conf file
13:11<nocturnal>ok
13:11<nocturnal>thanks
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13:12<nocturnal>defined Modeline "2560x1440_60.00" 312.25 2560 2752 3024 3488 1440 1443 1448 1493 -hsync +vsync there now
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13:16<nocturnal>that modeline and a reboot seemingly solved it
13:16<nocturnal>xrandr segfaulted right after the reboot but second try and it worked =)
13:16<nocturnal>and the resolution looks right
13:17<somiaj>nocturnal: glad it worked. (:
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13:20<thatguychuck>I am finding that "mount -o loop" is changing the md5sum on certain iso's, even though it is "read only." I don't really know why. However, "mount -o ro" seems to keep the correct sum.
13:21<somiaj>thatguychuck: it is changing the actual md5sum of the iso file?
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13:22<thatguychuck>Yes. dmesg pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ZvkPCHWM
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13:22<thatguychuck>I don't recall what program I used to make the ISO. I wonder if it is missing something,
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13:23<somiaj>thatguychuck: oh so this is for a paticualr iso, not just in general?
13:25<somiaj>yea I didn't change the md5sums of my iso file I tried to mount. The examples I have are all isofs and not udf_fs
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13:25<thatguychuck>Now that I'm looking, it seems to be a handful of ISO's made around the same time from a windows box.
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13:26<somiaj>looks like it something to do with using udf_fs instead of iso9660 fs
13:26<thatguychuck>This seems to be a creation error, sorry! I'll look into remaking them.
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13:31<petn-randall>I'm trying to install a kfreebsd amd64 guest on a jessie host. I'm using libvirt. The guest disk is a S-ATA drive. In the installer I get "Could not get identity of device /dev/ada0 - Inappropriate ioctl for device \n Warning! \n Ignore/Cancel". Is this a known problem?
13:32<petn-randall>Nothing in the release notes .. and google isn't quite helpful either. :/
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13:34<Maulkin>petn-randall: -> #debian-next for Jessie.
13:34<Maulkin>petn-randall: Or possibly #debian-kfreebsd or something
13:34<somiaj>intersting, could it be something to do with the linux kernel on the host?
13:34<somiaj>though that really shouldn't be an issue with libvirt I woudl think
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13:35<somiaj>petn-randall: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=694358 -- it is a warning, could you just 'ignore it', my quick summar of that bugreport says you can with no problems
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13:36<somiaj>though that bug report is a little old
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13:39<petn-randall>somiaj: Ah, good catch, thanks.
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14:10<danialjose1>anyone pleas suggest me good Debian packaging video tutorial
14:11<petn-randall>danialjose1: Packaging isn't really a thing that you can show on a video. If you need help, you can go to #debian-mentors, they'll be able to recommend you a good primer.
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14:12<danialjose1>ok
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15:10<saiyan>hey whats a good music player that runs through terminal?
15:11<melmothX>saiyan: moc
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15:11<louiz>or mpd which runs as a daemon and you can use any console client like ncmpcpp
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15:12<saiyan>i tried to install mpd earlier but it said something about the gnome keyring and permission denied
15:12<melmothX>but you could end up in a configuration hell, while moc is pretty much self-contained
15:12<saiyan>how do i run moc once its installed
15:12<saiyan>i tried just moc but it said command not found
15:12<louiz>probably by typing moc
15:12<melmothX>the executable is called "mocp"
15:12<saiyan>oh ok
15:12<saiyan>eh, this looks pretty gross
15:13<saiyan>blue white and orange
15:13<babilen>heh
15:13<devil_>saiyan: it's linux, change it
15:13<saiyan>can you guys help me install mpd
15:14<louiz>actually it’s moc, but yeah, change it
15:15<saiyan>oh shizz i got ncmpcpp running, nvm
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15:21<Kulesh>Hi all!
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15:24<nocturnal>does glamor1 exist in debian? I can't find it
15:24<nocturnal>it's supposed to be an Xorg module
15:25<nocturnal>glamor-egl
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15:27<towo`>in debian mesa is built without glamour
15:28<supaman>see bug #732216
15:29<SamB>towo`: any particular reason you just used the british spelling when software in question seems to use the american spelling?
15:30<nocturnal>I see thanks towo`
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15:33<towo`>SamB, does it matter?
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15:34<towo`>btw, english is not my native lang
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15:34<SamB>towo`: I'm guessing not
15:34<SamB>or you would probably have just told me how it matterred
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15:38<saiyan>hi
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15:40<saiyan>can someone help me get mpd working
15:42<supaman>!ask
15:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
15:42<saiyan>ok well i am trying to use ncmpcpp but I can't get the files to show up on the playlist
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15:43<saiyan>Ive been trying to follow this guide
15:43<saiyan>http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/01/simple-guide-to-set-up-mpd-with-ncmpcpp.html
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15:44<saiyan>I am at part 3 where it says type in mpd
15:44<saiyan>I get this: Failed to bind to '[::]:6600': Address already in use
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15:49<saiyan>so?
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15:50<supaman>saiyan: I don't know anything abot mpd, so you have to wait for someone who does know
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16:16<ScottE>saiyan: it looks like something is already listening on port 6600
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16:39<jalcine>happy belated birthday apt!
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16:39<jalcine>lol
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16:49<q>hi
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16:49<Guest5451>hello there
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17:02<Cheops>my GNOME aplications panel black how can i change?
17:02<Cheops>colour
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18:19<zack_>what can you do here.
18:21<somiaj>mostly a support channel to ask questions about debian
18:21<somiaj>ocasionally discussion about debian itself, but mostly support.
18:22<zack_>oo cool would have been usefull 5minutes ago when i wasnt able to share a linux folder on my network
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18:23<zack_>linux is very complicated in my eyes at the moment
18:25<devil>zack_: wait until you climbded to the top of the hill, the view is amazing :)
18:26<zack_>hopefully cause its a byg hill :D
18:26<devil>it is a bit step in the beginning, yes
18:26<devil>getting better every day though
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18:27<zack_>yes its not to bad
18:28<zack_>just les cmd line and more graphic iterface would be easyer
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18:28<devil>zack_: lateron you will be happy about knowing cmdline
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18:30<zack_>hope so cause i like how it looks and the freedom of choice
18:31<devil>zack_: this is the place to help us to help you
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18:32<somiaj>zack_: and by linux I assume you are using debian linux. (:
18:32<somiaj>zack_: and if you ever run into any issues with debian, problems or the likes the community here is very helpful.
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18:35<zack_>cool , i was just saing becausewen i started whit widows , i feagured out by my self how to gey it to do what i wanted whit no help what so ever , but whit linux i couldent even open a folder from the network
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18:36<zack_>i still cant do it , so i made a shared folder in linux so i can paste and copy from other machines
18:36<devil>it is just different, it's not really harder
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18:38<zack_>i have 4 tb off stanalone network hdd and im using linux as a server for torrent file downloading
18:39<devil>zack_: what filesystem does the network share have?
18:39<zack_>and transfering to hdd for the rest of the house to see
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18:39<zack_>ntfs i think
18:40<devil>is ntfs-3g installed? apt-cache policy ntfs-3g will tell you
18:40<zack_>i had windows 2012 server software before yestarday on this server
18:41<zack_>which i made by my self
18:41<zack_>no monitor keyboard or nothing just using teamviewer to acces it from ipad or phone or pc
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18:42<zack_>its very useful
18:42<zack_>my library of movies has increased very fast because of it
18:42<devil>zack_: in linux we mostly use ssh to run our servers
18:43<devil>or maybe semi graphical with mc
18:44<zack_>wel i dont now the comands at all im not even sure what root or sudo
18:44<zack_>is
18:44<devil>I prefer a real root and do not use sudo
18:45<devil>root is your administrator mode
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18:45<babilen>zack_: You might want to read http://debian-handbook.info/ and a command line tutorial
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18:45<babilen>dpkg: tell zack_ -about general cli tutorial
18:46<ncl>zack_: sudo provides temporary root privileges and is considered safer than using a root shell
18:46<devil>ncl: is it?
18:47<devil>not in my book
18:47<zykotick9>devil: not in my book either...
18:47<zack_> diferent subject ..do you guys have a way around peer to peer speed limiter
18:48<ncl>devil: you can customize specific commands to be run as other users, set specific timeouts, restrictions, etc. As long as you give sudo to the right people, how is it not? You can completely disable root if you wanted to after that
18:48-!-JPeterson [~JPeterson@81-233-152-121-no83.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #debian
18:48<zack_>cause half of the day im blocked to a ptp speed of 5 kb
18:49<devil>ncl: my machines get used only by me and root is gonna stay :)
18:49<zack_>but the rest 2 or 3 mb
18:50<ncl>(and I mean, you can still use sticky bits or whatever to allow people to use root commands, but sudo also logs all commands used with it, etc)
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18:54<zykotick9>ncl: if you have more then one administrator for the box, i'll agree sudo is a better choice...
18:56<zack_>how to you get codecs to whatch what ever .
18:57<devil>zack_: vlc has all the codecs you will need
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18:59<zack_>thanks
18:59<devil>zack_: apt-get update && apt-get install vlc
19:00<zack_>and on the network hdd im able to see it now but when i wand to opwn any folder from it it asks me for chose an aplication to use fo it
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19:01<zack_>soory writing on ipad its triky
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19:02<devil>zack_: what file manager are you using? and you did not answer my question regarding ntfs-3g
19:02<zykotick9>zack_: devil personally, i'd s/vlc/mplayer/ YMMV
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19:03<devil>zykotick9: yeah, I never got to like mplayer
19:03<zack_>ntfs , i wrote it a wile back
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19:03<zack_>just windows standard i think
19:03<devil>zack_: i was asking if you had ntfs-3g installed
19:04<zack_>oo
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19:04<zykotick9>devil: "i hear ya" many don't... it's the only video player _i_ need/use
19:04<zack_>soory i dont now what that is
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19:04<devil>zack_: i did not ask if you knew what it was but if it is installed
19:05<devil>[00:40:01] <devil> is ntfs-3g installed? apt-cache policy ntfs-3g will tell you
19:05<devil>zack_: so debian is running on a remote machine and you are here with your ipad?
19:06<zack_>iep
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19:06<devil>you have no clue of linuix but you run it as a server?
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19:07<centrx>What else can be done?
19:07<zack_>im comfy in bed wile the server is in living room downloading whit transmision or something like that
19:07<devil>centrx: get a clue BEFORE you run a server? :)
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19:08<centrx>Server needs to be run. No one else can do it.
19:08<zack_>im dont the cmd amd how it works but im clever enoufg to get it to do what i want to a point
19:09<Kulesh>где эта шлюха?!
19:09<zack_>i now that teamviewer has a app for linux and i just had to figure out ho to instal it , which was easy
19:09<devil>Kulesh: can we eat it? is it a bird?
19:09<zack_>and the i had to figure out how to get utorrent on it which dident work
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19:10<zack_>so im using the standard transmision
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19:10<zack_>and isntalation of linux i did whit a usb stick
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19:12<zack_>i still need to figurenout how to get acces to those hdd and how to make all the software to start by them self wen i start the server
19:13*devil mentions ntfs-3g for a last time
19:13<devil>it even has a manpage
19:13<zack_>i know soory i was triing to copy from the chat window but i doesnt let me
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19:14<zack_>and i asume you want me to type it in terminal wright .
19:15<devil>well, you could also read on it on the internet
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19:15<devil>you could also look into nfs
19:16<devil>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_File_System
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19:17<zack_>well the cmd thingy came back whit some stuff including instaled
19:17<zack_>and candidate
19:17<devil>if installed had a version instead of none, then it is installed
19:18<zack_>yep 1.2012 something
19:18<Kulesh><devil> it is a fiash
19:18<zack_>so what am i doing wrong then
19:18<devil>you from the south? :)
19:18<devil>zack_: what are you doing?
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19:19<devil>zack_: meaning: how do you mount the ntfs drive?
19:19<zack_>well i mean why cant i see the files in the hdd
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19:20<zack_>im gong to network folder and there are my network hdd
19:20<zack_>and try to open
19:20<zack_>and it says to chose a app
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19:21<devil>zack_: you need to mount them correctly
19:21<devil>zack_: but first youz need some basic knowledge
19:21<zack_>idk linux found them by it self
19:21<devil>shortcuts don
19:21<devil>t work very well
19:21<zack_>i dont now how to do thtat
19:22<devil>mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/foo /media/bar
19:22<devil>where foo and bar need to be determined/created
19:23<devil>but I need to run, it's late
19:23<zack_>its ok cause you lost me a bit :D thanks anywhay
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19:24<devil>zack_: as I said, you need basics
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19:26<wei>mnmnm
19:27<zack_>nmnmn
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19:44<Sylo>Bonjour, ah oui y a du monde ici, c'est un chan Français ?
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19:45<centrx>!fr
19:45<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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19:45<Sylo>thanks you
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19:46<solydxk>hmmm
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19:56<Drenferalis>somiaj: So trying that for a bit I ended up with 9 duplications and im running out of window space fast
19:56-!-ph0b0s [~phobos@ppp079167054095.access.hol.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:56<Drenferalis>and im on debian 7.4
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19:57<somiaj>Drenferalis: even with this new user? Did you reboot your xorg and still getting this? Mind pasting the output of your xorg.conf file you used at paste.debian.net
19:57<somiaj>Drenferalis: where did you get nvidia's drivers (you didn't get it from nvidia.com by chance?) and did you use any tool to create y our xorg.conf file?
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19:58<Drenferalis>somiaj: I used x to reconfigure the xorg file and I got the nvidia drivers from the defualt repo's.
19:59<Drenferalis>Ill get you a pastebin of xorg
19:59<somiaj>Drenferalis: what do you mean by you used x?
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20:00<Drenferalis>Xorg -configure
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20:00<Drenferalis>(Im using X as an alias of Xorg)
20:00<somiaj>Drenferalis: oh, yea there is a nicer way to do that
20:00<somiaj>Drenferalis: first remove all xorg.conf file, /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*
20:01<somiaj>Drenferalis: second, rerun X (does it work?) Make sure it is the config causing these problems
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20:01<somiaj>Drenferalis: after you check, create a single file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia-conf
20:02<somiaj>Drenferalis: in that file insert the following info, http://paste.debian.net/91766/, and that should be enough to use the nvidia drivers
20:02<somiaj>Drenferalis: again if removing the xorg.conf file was created with Xorg -configure dosne't fix this strange issue you had, my guess is somethign else got rewritting in the process.
20:03<somiaj>Drenferalis: but I have to go, others here will help you. But debug first, figure out for sure if it is the nvidia videodrivers/config you created or something else.
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20:03<Drenferalis>Thank you for the help somiaj
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20:04<somiaj>Drenferalis: just noticed a typo, it is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
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20:05<Guest5470>how can i update my synaptic package
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20:15<Drenferalis>I really think it was the Xorg conf becuase now Im not getting more menu's. Now I need to remove the extra menu's I have
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20:34<jose>hi
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20:41<keyvin>Is it safe to use systemd on wheezy?
20:43<centrx>Should be
20:44<keyvin>ok. Don't want to hate on something before I have tried it.
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20:56<Kulesh>what command synchronized time
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20:56<Kulesh>???
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20:56<Kulesh>pls help
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20:58<centrx>Kulesh, Install ntp or ntpdate
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21:06<Kulesh>centrx, sencs
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21:28<Kulesh>http://pbrd.co/1ilrBTI
21:29<Kulesh>wots wrong?
21:30<centrx>Don't run it as root?
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21:33<keyvin>Is it possible to disable services on wheezy with systemctl? I am just playing around with systemd and I get:
21:34<keyvin>Failed to issue method call: No such file or directory
21:34<keyvin>for any and every service I try to disable
21:34<keyvin>other than that, I really like systemd
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21:43<che>yay I finally found out the cause of random crashes I've occasionally been having! A few months ago I moved some installs around and I guess managed to change the UUID of my swap partition.... so this whole time I've been running on no swap
21:44<che>whenever I'd have a crapload of tabs with PDFs open everything would die a horrible death
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21:44*che facepalms
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22:17<bsiq_>Hello. I'm a new linux user. I had just installed Debian from the debian 7.4 amd64 kde image. I then followed the instructions on the wiki to install Steam (https://wiki.debian.org/Steam). I noticed when I began the installation itself (aptitude install steam) that it was messing with lots of stuff apparently not related to it, as office, etc. Steam was successfuly installed and worked fine. I closed my browser and noticed it was unninstalled. I decided to
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22:18<bsiq_>Only to realise almost everything on the OS had been unninstalled or replaced. Not even startx works. Is there a way to undo that?
22:18<centrx>bsiq_, It sounds like you may have inadvertently upgraded half your system to testing
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22:19<bsiq_>centrx: I promise I only did what was written in the wiki! Is there a way to recover the system or do I have to format and reinstall?
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22:23<centrx>bsiq_, Downgrades are not really supported, so you can try downgrading but you might end up with a broken system.
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22:23<centrx>bsiq_, Fully upgrading to testing is another option, which would enable you to use Steam in testing, but testing can be buggy and does not have rapid security updates.
22:24<bsiq_>centrx: what if I decide to stay with testing. Is there a way to recover? Reinstall what was lost (with "testing" versions, etc)?
22:24<bsiq_>How can I fully upgrade?
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22:25<centrx>bsiq_, Yes, set your sources.list to all point to jessie, then do apt-get dist-upgrade or use aptitude, and make sure to install anything that was missing
22:27<bsiq_>Ok, thank you centrx! I'll give it a try :)
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23:32<Kulesh>Подскажите как запустить wine gui от root'a
23:32<SamB>!ru
23:32<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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23:33<Kulesh>ыутлы
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