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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-04-13

---Logopened Sun Apr 13 00:00:05 2014
---Daychanged Sun Apr 13 2014
00:00<ratando497>i am a newb- is there a deb-wiki-page in this ? how do i overwrite?
00:00<ratando497>*On* this?
00:00<ncl>by saving a new session?
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00:00<ncl>I think the simple way would just be, close everything, tick save session, logout
00:01<ratando497>ohhhhhhh. close everything and Then Save?
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00:03<ratando497>omg. THANK you - ncl ! :)
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00:10<stihope>detach
00:11<stihope>how to detach from irssi.
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00:19<xkz>I can't see any application now
00:20<xkz>and can't open any setup window(include time window)
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00:21<xkz>the last solution is re-install debian, but I can't do this, hope I can find way to fix this problem.
00:21<xkz>now I can press CTRL+ALT+F1 to enter shell envoriment without gui.
00:22<xkz>did anybody know this problem?
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00:33<kingsley>How do you fix ...
00:33<kingsley>"Unable to find a version "1.2.3" for the package "abc"
00:33<kingsley>when doing ...
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00:33<kingsley>aptitude install abc=1.2.3
00:33<kingsley>?
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00:42<somiaj>kingsley: what is it you are trying to do? What versino of debian are you running and why are you wanting to install another version of apackage and from where?
00:43<kingsley>somiaj: Thanks for asking.
00:43<kingsley>I'm trying to use a package called "qemu".
00:43<kingsley>I'm using unstable.
00:44<somiaj>So you only have unstable sources in your sources.list
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00:44<somiaj>and what version are you wanting to install (from where)?
00:44<kingsley>I want to install an old version of qemu because the latest one does not successfully boot Windows XP as a guest operating system.
00:45<kingsley>I'd like to install version "1.6.0+dfsg-1+b1".
00:45<somiaj>kingsley: you only have the current version in your sources, so you will have to get this old version from somewhere
00:45<somiaj>if you still have the debs in /var/cache/apt/archives (i.e. you don't run apt-get clean) you can just install them there with dpkg -i
00:46<somiaj>you can alos use snapshot.debian.org to find older versions of sid packages
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00:46<kingsley>somiaj: You insightfully asked the important question in parentheses "(from where)".
00:47<kingsley>somiaj: Your suggestion of checking /var/cache/apt/archives seems reasonable to me.
00:47<kingsley>Unfortunately, the old versions are no longer there.
00:47<somiaj>then go find them on snapshot.debian.org
00:48<somiaj>also check out bugs.debian.org/qemu (see if ther eis a bug about this or maybe report it)
00:48<somiaj>and #debian-next is the prfered channel to ask about unstable help on this network. (:
00:49<kingsley>somiaj: Thank you very much for reminding me about snapshot.debian.org.
00:49<kingsley>I think that may work.
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01:03<dizzylizzy>Hello, I'm trying to effectively blacklist a package; basically, if a package tries to pull it in as a recommends or depends, the action will fail
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05:57<wardhan>there is too much crackling sound. so removed pulseaudio. now, there is no sound at all, how do i resolve the issue ?
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06:27<_Alex>Hi. Is it safe to remove empty groups with delgroup? I have some like "adm" which are empty and I have no idea what they're for (never seen 'til I listed the groups to search for a specific one).
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06:28<weasel>adm is the group that owns log files.
06:28<weasel>most logs should be group readable adm.
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06:28<weasel>in general, I would be very, very careful about removing anything from passwd/groups.
06:29<_Alex>Well, I have some like debian-tor, which I assume is for the Tor browser, which I once installed but never actually used.
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06:29<weasel>you assume wrong.
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06:30<_Alex>Well, is there a way to check what certain group is for better than ls and grep to look for files owned by them or something of the sort?
06:31<weasel>not really, no. also, they don't usually hurt.
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06:32<_Alex>Yeah I was just doing a cleanup and stumbled open them. I'll leave as is then. Thanks.
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07:13<wang>hellow
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07:29<Medeman>Hello there, I patched OpenSSL on a few Debian machines now, however on one machine "openssl version" returns "OpenSSL 1.0.1g 7 Apr 2014 (Library: OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013)" - do I need to upgrade the library as well? And if so, how?
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07:29<weasel>Medeman: which version of the package do you have installed?
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07:30<weasel>(it almost sounds like you have a manually installed openssl somewhere? or are you mixing debian releases?)
07:31<Medeman>weasel: I didn't install openssl manually...I was just using apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade
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07:38<Medeman>weasel: http://pastebin.com/wXbsZ8ps
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07:38<weasel>Medeman: seems like you mixed repositories.
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07:39<weasel>Medeman: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u6 is the one in stable-security. 1.0.1g-2 never was in stable
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07:40<Medeman>weasel: can I downgrade openssl then?
07:40<weasel>in theory downgrades of packages are not supported.
07:40<weasel>in practice, it will probably work
07:40<weasel>note however, that this most likely isn't the only package you got from unstable/testing
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07:41<weasel>dpkg: list repositories
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07:41<dpkg>To see what repository a package may have come from, try http://svn.noreply.org/svn/weaselutils/trunk/apt-listrepository , or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory, or <bdo list>, or <dmm list>
07:42<nevyn>!dsa2896
07:42<dpkg>Versions of openssl prior to 1.0.1e-2+deb7u5 (wheezy) and 1.0.1g-1 (sid) are vulnerable to DSA-2896 (see http://deb.li/3BrUE). Check the version of the libssl1.0.0 packages: «aptitude versions '~i?source-package(openssl)'». Remember that the upstream version part (1.0.1e) doesn't change when security bugs are fixed in stable releases; ask me about <security backports>. See also http://heartbleed.com/, http://xkcd.com/1354/
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07:44<Medeman>weasel: Hmm, okay...Other than having packages from mixed repos, is it a problem that the library still seems to be 1.0.1e while the main package is 1.0.1g?
07:44<weasel>Medeman: the library comes from a different package
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07:45<weasel>libssl1.0.0 presumably
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07:45<Medeman>weasel: So if I upgrade libssl from a testing repo it should be fine?
07:45<weasel>not what's I'd do.
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07:46<weasel>either mixing is no problem in your opinion, then the current status is just fine.
07:46<weasel>or having packages without a source is a configuration bug (my opinion), then you need to fix it
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07:46<Medeman>weasel: Okay, I'll see what I can do, thanks for your time.
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08:22<gary_2>Hi, my VPS is down and I can access it through KVM. I can't copy paste text from it though, is there any way it's possible?
08:22<gary_2>It has no internet connection
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08:25<lmaon>Привет! Кто может помочь с bind9 ?
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08:25<abrotman>!ru
08:25<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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08:30<lmaon>Hi! How can reset the serial used in bind9?
08:30<weasel>"serial used in bind9"?
08:31<lmaon>yes, bind dns
08:31<weasel>ask your question better?
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08:32<_spOOn_>lmaon: rndc retransfer zonename
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08:34<lmaon>thnx, but.. "rndc: 'retransfer' failed: not found
08:35<_spOOn_>running this on the slave ns?
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08:35<_spOOn_>also, are you specifying the zone correctly?
08:35<lmaon>yes
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08:35<lmaon>rndc reload zone its work
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08:36<weasel>_spOOn_: I doubt that will do what he wants.
08:36<weasel>_spOOn_: it might, since he didn't tell us what the fuck he wants.
08:36<weasel>maybe he doesn't know himself.
08:37<_spOOn_>:)
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08:37<weasel>and suggesting random commands won't make it better in the least.
08:38<_spOOn_>weasel: I'd hardly call that random
08:39<_spOOn_>hes welcome to ignore if he wants
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09:43<Cyrus>There was recently an update to openssl (within the last 12h) that took it from u5 to u6, does anyone know what it fixed? The Debian changelog for the package is a 404 right now.
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09:44<themill>if by "last 12h" you mean "5 days ago", ...
09:44<ncl>I *think* u6 was still heartbleed but just an extra script to say you need to restart services
09:44<Cyrus>No, I don't mean 5 days ago.
09:44<nikit>can u tell me how to install unity-2d launcher on kde? debian wheezy
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09:44<Cyrus>ncl, ah, I see.
09:45<themill>1.0.1e-2+deb7u6 was released on April 8.
09:45<Cyrus>themill: Interesting. Good to know.
09:45<themill>(and yes, it just adds some prompting to restart services)
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09:47<Cyrus>Thank you.
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11:15<oscarr>hi is here someone who uses Radeon r9 270x (or similar) card with debian ?
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11:24<macaronesico>hello all
11:24<macaronesico>i'm new to debian, anyone with some time to help me?
11:25<Brigo>!ask
11:25<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
11:28<macaronesico>I just installed Debian 7 in an oldlaptop. I have a Netgeat doongle for wifi WG111v2. This is the second time I install it, und the first time debian has recognized while installing the dongle, but now seems not to do so
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11:39<Hicks>Do you know what chipset is in it? Might need to install the realtek-firmware package from contrib/non-free assuming it's an RTL one.
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11:47<macaronesico>rtl something
11:47<macaronesico>i have to install ndiswrapper
11:48<macaronesico>i already have the windows driver
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11:49<ScottE>macaronesico: is it supported by firmware-realtek (might be in non-free)?
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11:54<babilen>macaronesico: I am quite sure that you do not need ndiswrapper. If it is a realtek device you will probably require firmware or you might have to install a newer kernel.
11:54<DrZaius>this url https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/being_packaged is not being updated, is it?
11:54<DrZaius>i see last update from Last Modified: Sun, Apr 13 11:34:30 UTC 2014
11:54<gsimmons>macaronesico: Your device is supported by the rtl8187 driver in the Linux kernel, so ndiswrapper isn't necessary. The rtl8187 driver doesn't require firmware to be provided (nor will it use anything from firmware-realtek). Try reinserting your device and check for changes in network interfaces.
11:55<macaronesico>ok
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11:55<DrZaius>mmm actually, it is
11:56<DrZaius>nvm
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11:57<babilen>dpkg: tell macaronesico about rtl8187
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12:01<macaronesico>maybe i don't have now any net installed, iwlist ist not recognized "command not found"
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12:13<macaronesico>now got it shown on wlan0
12:14<macaronesico>:)
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12:30<kalamaja>ssh -p 2120 arendus.televork.ee
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12:41<macaronesico>still stuck there, installed wireless-tools package and dependencies
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12:48<somiaj>macaronesico: stuck where?
12:48<macaronesico>now got iternet on it
12:48<macaronesico>:)
12:48<somiaj>oh good, (:
12:48<Guest6370>hi
12:49<macaronesico>have to still configure some things, but is there, upgrading apt
12:49<macaronesico>thx! :)
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13:07<macaronesico>im trying to install shh but dependencies are shown but not marked :(
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13:50<somiaj>macaronesico: how are you tryingto install ssh (what command) and can you give us a copy of the errors at paste.debian.net
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13:53<RCP>How do I check what modules my kernal has loaded
13:53<RCP>?
13:54<macaronesico>I could install it with apt-get install ssh (i had to add some repositories) but i now have to configure it to connect from my other pc
13:54<mtn>RCP: man modprobe
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13:56<kurukuru>so what would be the best way of installing tomahawk
13:56<kurukuru>I tried building a deb package using the wiki with no success
13:56<kurukuru>I think I just have a bunch of useless dependencies dormant on my system now
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13:58<somiaj>RCP: lsmod
13:58<somiaj>,v tomahawk
13:58<judd>No package named 'tomahawk' was found in i386.
13:59<RCP>I can't seem to get Intel's i210 nic card to work, I'm running Kernal 3.2.0-4-amd64, witch has the igb driver I have ran modprobe igb and dmesg shows it ran but lspci -k does not show the device have a kernal driver
14:00<RCP>Thank somiaj
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14:01<somiaj>RCP: Is ther efirmware required for that card?
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14:02<RCP>idk I was thinking that too and ran modprobe e1000 still did not work
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14:04<hallo>hi
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14:04<hallo>I use the netinstall CD on an old pentium
14:05<hallo>after "install", "graphical install" and "rescue mode", the menu screen flickers and the pc crashes
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14:05<hallo>any idea?
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14:10<mycae>Hi, I'm having trouble updating my testing system' s xorg package. Attempting to update xorg causes libaudit0 to be suggested for removal, which in turn removes gdm. Any ideas?
14:10<mycae>I tried installing libaudit1, but that doesn't work due to the breaks relation
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14:15<morish>as
14:15<weasel>since
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14:19<somiaj>mycae: first #debian-next is prefered channel for testing help. Second - check the bugreports maybe the new testing packages break some depends
14:19<mycae>I checked the brs nothing, but cheers for the #d-n pointer
14:20<RCP>somiaj Anything else I can try?
14:20<somiaj>RCP: when you manually modprobe that module, what does 'demsg | tail' say
14:21<RCP>http://cdn.thegeekoftheworld.com/acdee64c8129be1ddb43977beedf19ad.png
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14:21<RCP>somiaj ^
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14:22<somiaj>RCP: looks like the module loaded, you see the card in /sbin/ifconfig -a
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14:22<mycae>Ah - I've worked it out - I need to install gdm3
14:23<RCP>somiaj no
14:23<somiaj>RCP: also lspci, what is the exact chipset you have, or even the pciid of the card
14:23<RCP>somiaj: http://cdn.thegeekoftheworld.com/fa662e9c889fb47cc5f928b68732f872.png
14:24<RCP>somiaj This is the MB: http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=C2750D4I#Download
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14:25<RCP>I been fighting this thing... for the last 6 days
14:25<somiaj>,pciid 1849:1533
14:25<judd>[1849:1533] is 'Unknown device' from 'ASRock Incorporation' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1849:1533
14:25<somiaj>,pciid 8086:1533
14:26<judd>[8086:1533] is 'I210 Gigabit Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1533
14:26<somiaj>really snd-hda-intel for a gigabit network connecntion, judd you are crazy
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14:27<somiaj>RCP: can you put the whole output of lspci -vvv at paste.debian.net
14:27<RCP>Yeah one sec.
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14:28<RCP>somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/93551/
14:29<Osmann>EUZUBILLAHIMINEÞÞEYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
14:29<Osmann>ALLAHU EKBERRRRR! LA ÝLAHE ÝLLALLAH MUHAMMEDEN RESULULLAH!
14:29<Osmann>All Ademogullari error is annoying. Error repentant who are the best of
14:29<Osmann>Prayer, faith is the head and the savior of Hell. Prophet Muhammad s.a.v..
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14:29<somiaj>RCP: are you on debian wheezy?
14:29<RCP>Yeah
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14:30<somiaj>RCP: do you actually have two of those cards on your system? Anyways I found a google hit that might help
14:31<somiaj>it appears the module is 'ign' is that the one you were tryign to load
14:31<RCP>somiaj Yep
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14:31<somiaj>looks like you need the backported kernel
14:31<somiaj>RCP: uname -a (does this say 3.2 as teh version)?
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14:31<RCP>Linux Server 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux
14:32<somiaj>RCP: you will need to update to the backported kernel, do you have internet connenction at all on that machine or do you need to copy the stuff over there to install?
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14:32<RCP>Yeah I have a usb network card...
14:32<RCP>One sec.
14:32<somiaj>!tell RCP about wheezy-backports
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14:34<somiaj>RCP: install a 3.13 kernel from that source
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14:41<RCP>:D
14:42<somiaj>RCP: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/98417/cant-get-intel-i210-ethernet-working-on-debian-wheezy
14:42<somiaj>last you may or may not enouchter a bug with acpi-support
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14:42<RCP>somiaj Check your pm
14:43<RCP>somiaj Thanks
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14:58<nikit>any body can help me to protect of information in front Physical access
14:58<nikit>؟
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15:07<nikit>no body stay herE?
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15:07<centrx>nikit, Your question is unclear
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15:11<nikit>centrx, see, i have any files on my debian server
15:12-!-James061010 [~sam@97e445fd.skybroadband.com] has quit []
15:12<nikit>but i need to care this files to Physical access
15:12<rryoumaa>is resolv.conf an exception to a rule about not writing to etc?
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15:12<nikit>what should i do?
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15:14<centrx>nikit, I do not understand
15:15<rryoumaa>he probably wants to know how to protect his data from people who have physical access to his computer (just a guess)
15:15<nikit>centrx, do you know about physical access? :D
15:15<nikit>rryoumaa, yes its true :D
15:16<centrx>Use disk encryption
15:16<centrx>And login password
15:16<nikit>centrx, in linux, users can reset login password, what should i do?
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15:17<centrx>What's wrong with that?
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15:17<nikit>centrx, what? :-?
15:18<centrx>A user can change his password. That is expected.
15:18<centrx>There may be a way to prevent local logins, but does not seem important compared to disk encryption.
15:19<rryoumaa>even disk encryption will not help him if they replace the code that decrypts it
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15:21<macaronesico>Q: how do i start automatic wireless connection?
15:21<centrx>If a real attacker has physical access, it is too late already.
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15:26<nikit>centrx, so what your opoinin for disk encryption
15:26<nikit>?
15:26<nikit>program for this work
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15:26<centrx>nikit, LUKS is the standard for Linux
15:27<nikit>centrx, okay very thank you
15:27<RCP>somiaj How can I get kernal 3.13 on squeezy?
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15:29<fake001>Hi
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15:30<alvaro2>hellooo
15:30<alvaro2>my name is pepito
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15:31<alvaro2>im from spain
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15:31<fake001>im from Italy
15:31<fake001>657 total line lol
15:32<fake001>1 operator asd
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15:33<centrx>RCP, Might not be possible because of dependencies. Why not upgrade to wheezy?
15:33<RCP>OpenMediaVault wants it
15:34<centrx>Isn't OpenMediaVault a complete distribution?
15:35<RCP>Based off of Debian 6
15:35<alvaro2>hola chavalessss
15:36<fake001>sorry i'm using kali
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15:37<Hicks>with lightdm/xfce is there any way to switch user without logging out? Had a search but could only turn up info on packages for gdm
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15:38<Marillion>Hicks: xfce has a plugin iirc
15:38<Marillion>switch user is the name i believe
15:39<Hicks>I'll have a search for info on that then, cheers.
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15:39<Hicks>xfswitch-plugin looks to be the name.
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15:40<Hicks>although it looks like that depends on gdm3 so probably not applicable when running lightdm?
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15:41<Marillion>depends is NOT that must run
15:43<Marillion>unless lightdm NOt support that
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15:44<miguel>que onda esto??
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15:54<bix_nood>Hey.
15:54<bix_nood>What do if Evince doesn't detect printers?
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15:54<bix_nood>I can print with ePDF and CUPS manager has no problems with detecting and installing my printer.
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15:56<macaronesico>anybody could help me a bit with shhd
15:57<Marillion>dpkg: tell macaronesico about ask
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16:00<somiaj>RCP: you can't in an easy way.
16:00<somiaj>RCP: I think 3.2 is the most recent kernel in squeeze-backports
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16:20<qwerasdfzxcv>exit
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16:25<somiaj>RCP: the suggestion thing would be upgrade to wheezy, /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy
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16:26<macaronesico>still stuck with sshd, i have done all from here https://wiki.debian.org/SSH but a portscan of my machine tellsme that's down
16:28<supaman>macaronesico: is sshd running?
16:28<macaronesico>supossed to, as i restarted it did't give any failure message
16:28<supaman>macaronesico: well .. just to be sure, run ps aux | grep sshd
16:30<macaronesico>root 1413 0.0 0.4 1940 528 tty1 S+ 21:29 0:00 grep sshd
16:30<supaman>and no other line?
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16:30<macaronesico>no
16:30<supaman>macaronesico: then sshd is not running
16:32<macaronesico>pff
16:32<macaronesico>how do i start it?
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16:33<supaman>run I think /etc/init.d/ssh start should do it (not sure if there is some tool to do this any other way)
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16:34<macaronesico>ok
16:34<macaronesico>but as i do again this ps | grep still shows the same line
16:35<supaman>hmm ... check if dmesg gave some output
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16:35<supaman>that concerns sshd
16:36<supaman>should be at the bottom of the dmesg output, no need to wade through old lines
16:37<macaronesico>no nothing
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16:37<macaronesico>only relative to wlan
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16:39<supaman>macaronesico: you do have openssh-server package installed right?
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16:39<macaronesico>already to tbe newest version
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16:43<supaman>macaronesico: see if there are any error messages in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages
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16:47<macaronesico>no, in syslog i can see the messages of the service starting and stopping, in messages looks fine (i look for this session, not from the begining)
16:48<supaman>hmm, it starts and stops .. doesnt just start?
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16:49<macaronesico>i think its as i restarted it with systemctl restart sshd.service
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16:50<macaronesico>yes, confirmed
16:51<supaman>your using systemd?
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17:03<macaronesico>i found in some tutorial i was following
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17:04<macaronesico>can be a problem?
17:04<supaman>dont know, I dont know systemd
17:05<devil>supaman: why would you use systemctl then?
17:05<devil>supaman: you want /etc/init.d/sshd restart
17:06<supaman>but if you run that restart command does syslog tell you that sshd starts and stops immediately right after?
17:06<supaman>devil: its macaronesico who is having problems
17:06<devil>ups :)
17:06<supaman>:-)
17:06<devil>reading is good, understanding is better :)
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17:07<macaronesico>yes, but we only have one life
17:07<macaronesico>and there are tones to read
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17:08<somiaj>I belive the /etc/init.d/ scripts work with both systemd and sysvinit, the few I have tried seem to.
17:08<somiaj>though it does say using systemctrl
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17:09<devil>somiaj: with systemd-sysv installed it does
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17:09<somiaj>ahh must have instaled that by default, I have only recentally tried systemd, figured I best learn it
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18:41<macaronesico>anyone there could tell me how to initialise and connect the interface wlan0 BEFORE console login
18:42<Nemoder>!interfaces
18:42<dpkg>Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration . See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>.
18:44<Wick>What testing/sid distros contribute back to Debian a fair amount? I don't think LMDE does... atopsid?
18:44<Wick>SteamOS? lol
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18:48<sney>Wick: ubuntu does more than they used to
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18:48<Wick>sney: That's nice to hear
18:49<sney>I think siduction contributes some things, their main developer hangs out here a lot at least
18:49<Wick>It'd be interesting to see a ranking
18:49<Wick>Ubuntu at #1?
18:50<sney>from sheer volume probably
18:50<Wick>A lot of from indy maintainers and the creators of the actual software though
18:50<sney>yeah, many of whom just contribute the same thing to both ubuntu and debian
18:50<Wick>Did debian get a big donation from valve? I remember hearing them imply you'd be getting one.
18:51<Wick>Or a developer
18:51<Wick>If it hasn't happened yet, whoops, spoilers
18:52<sney>ha. all interested debian developers got a steam pass with free access to all valve games
18:52<sney>sort of a bribe I guess.
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18:54<Wick>That's almost evil, one could spend their entire life playing all those games, such temptation
18:56<sney>I think it's been digging into paultag's time at least. and a few others who were pretty stoked about it
18:56<sney>others were not so interested in non-free stuff. but we know valve wants to be nice to upstream
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18:56<Wick>The number of titles which workd on Linux is quite large now too
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18:57<Wick>More Linux-Steam games than PS4/XBONE titles
18:57<Wick>Some free software trying to get on steam for the publicity, like Krita
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19:00<Wick>I wonder how many thousands the Debian foundation could rake in with a DebGE(Gaming Edition) distro.
19:00<Wick>I wager it could get $250k
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19:01<macaronesico>Thks Nemoder, hot-plug option was left :)
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20:29<calisto1>hi, I use Debian testing, 1 hour ago update my sistem, have gnome-shell 3.8.4-8 its posible install gnome-shell 3.12 from experimental (sid)?
20:31<SynrG>!sns
20:31<dpkg>Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
20:32<SynrG>Although that is written for stable users it applies here too
20:32<SynrG>Just wait.
20:32<SynrG>3.12 will eventually be ready
20:33<ncl>is systemd sns? /bait
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20:33<ncl>and that was supposed to go to -offtopic...
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21:31<grok>i like an experienced os.
21:32<centrx>Debian has a lot of experience
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22:20<ljsoftnet>this is from cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ " http://pastebin.com/aKW8J7En how do i purge all of this?
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22:21<cindy>morning
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22:22<ljsoftnet>good morning
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22:23<cindy>ljsoftnet hallo
22:23<centrx>ljsoftnet, Use a regex to get a list of package names, then use xargs to put them on the same line with dpkg --purge
22:24<ljsoftnet>centrx how do i use regex?
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22:25<centrx>2014-04-14 09:45:43 install wine64-bin:amd64 <none> 1.4.1-4
22:25<cindy>cant help me ??
22:25<cindy>i came from in Indonesia
22:26<ljsoftnet>centrx ?
22:26<centrx>cat file | sed 's/\d{4}-\d{2}-\d{2} \d{2}:\d{2}:\d{2} install (\S+) .*/\1/g' |xargs dpkg --purge
22:26<centrx>ljsoftnet, That's the idea at least, may need some tweaking
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22:33<centrx>!ask
22:33<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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22:37<amgine_>"I have a problem with _adding a gopher server_. I'm running Debian version _jessie_." heh. Trying to add gophernicus, which expects me to add a line to inetd.conf, which doesn't exist. What's the debian way?
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22:39<centrx>Find out what the dependencies of gophernicus are and install them
22:40<centrx>inetd is in, well there are several, inetutils-inetd is the standard one I think
22:40<centrx>You can find more with apt-cache search inetd
22:40<amgine_>Thanks, centrx.
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22:42<amgine_>Just was hoping there were a way to add it as a service, since /etc/services lists gopher.
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22:42<centrx>amgine_, Maybe there is a setting in gophernicus
22:44<ljsoftnet>this is from cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ " http://pastebin.com/aKW8J7En how do i purge all of this?
22:44<centrx>...
22:44<centrx>ljsoftnet, I already answered you and then you disappeared
22:45<centrx>ljsoftnet, Now you are just repeating your exact same question
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22:59<pedrucho>where can i find the irc channel #ardour on free node?
23:01<pedrucho>i found out
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23:04<ljsoftnet>how do i purge multiple packages
23:05<chealer>ljsoftnet: what is your favorite package manager?
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23:05<ljsoftnet>chealer just tell me how
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