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00:19<enand>I installed a new icon theme package, but I'm still getting some old (or rather, not loading) icons whenever I open by file manager. how do I remove the icon cache?
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00:19<enand>I already deleted ~/.cache/
00:21<centrx>restart X?
00:21<centrx>or restart whatever is making your icons
00:22<enand>already did a cold reboot, didn't fix it.
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00:25<enand>nevermind, I managed to fix it. I had to edit the GTK config file in my home dir.
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00:34<centrx>!hi
00:34<dpkg>hello, centrx
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02:47<hp>hi all
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02:58<thiera>hello
02:58<thiera>hello everybody
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03:20<gianliuc>saluti a tutti
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03:23<tosh>hi
03:24<tosh>ne1 alive?
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03:59<lev_>hi. does anybody know, how to save screenshots automaticly, without asking where to save?
04:00<lev_>in one defined folder
04:01<weasel>import $dir/fo.png
04:03<lev_>weasel: what do you mean? i want to click on icon "make screenshot", at my toolbar, and i want it to save screenshot automatically in some defined folder, without asking me anything
04:04<stasi>i installed debian w/ no ui, then installed gnome-standard, how do i prevent debian from starting gnome on boot instead of defaulting to the gnome login?
04:04<weasel>I gave you another option. run that command and specify the target file as an argument.
04:05<stasi>my question didn't make much sense. i want to boot into a shell rather than a gnome login, so i can invoke gnome when needed
04:05<lev_>weasel: with this method I have to run this command anytime I want to make screenshot
04:06<weasel>stasi: get rid of gdm, or at least stop it from starting.
04:06<lev_>weasel: I want just click button and done
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04:06<weasel>I want a great many things. have a nice day.
04:07<stasi>weasel: good call, i forgot the login part was in gdm, if i stop it from starting on boot, that should get me where i want
04:07<somiaj>!tell stasi about nodm
04:07<somiaj>lev_: you can also use the program scrot
04:07<somiaj>lev_: depend on your desktop you can set up icons that run commands/scripts
04:08<lev_>somiaj: good idea, i try
04:08<stasi>sounds like i want to "echo false default-display-manager"
04:09<lev_>somiaj: mhm but it doesnt generate name for screenshot
04:09<stasi>then if i want to go into gnome i would just invoke gdm from the shell i assume?
04:09<somiaj>lev_: depending on the program you run you can generate a name for it
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04:11<lev_>somiaj: maybe you know, also, how to define screenshot button on keyboard?
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04:11<somiaj>lev_: scrot '/path/to/screenshot_dir/%Y-%m-%d_$wx$h.png' -- that command should make a screenshot with the date attached and put it in the screenshot dir
04:12<somiaj>lev_: these will be called keybindings, again how you do this depends on your de/wm. I don't use any of the major de's so Im' unfamlari with them
04:12<somiaj>some may have 'print screen' already set up to take a screenshot by default, have you tried to press it
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04:13<lev_>somiaj: ofcourse :D
04:13<somiaj>lev_: what desktop/wm do you use
04:13<lev_>somiaj: Xfce
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04:14<somiaj>lev_: do you see Keyboard Settings -> Shortcuts in the xfce control pannel anywhere?
04:15<tweek>the debian stable kernel does not yet support my new laptop's ethernet controller. the testing installer is meant for 'testing the installer, not for installing testing'. is there another way but to use the testing installer nonetheless?
04:16<lev_>somiaj: I found where to add some commands for some keyboard keys, thnx
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04:18<lev_>somiaj: great, this scrot command works, im happy :D
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04:20<somiaj>tweek: you can get a 3.13 kernel from backports
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04:20<somiaj>tweek: install debian stable base system, then copy over the 3.13 kernel and depends, isntall reboot, set up your ethernet card and continue
04:20<weasel>tweek: what kind of nic do you have?
04:21<weasel>the kernel in stable-proposed-updates has a new, updated e1000 driver, aiui
04:21<lev_>are you working in debian tech support?
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04:24<tweek>weasel: lspci says intel corporation ethernet connection I217-V (rev 05)
04:25<somiaj>you'll need the 3.14 kernel from wheezy backports
04:25<somiaj>,kernels
04:25<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.14-trunk-686-pae (3.14-1~exp1); sid: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.10-1); jessie: 3.13-1-686-pae (3.13.7-1); wheezy-backports: 3.13-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.13.7-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.54-2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.54-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4)
04:26<somiaj>ahh sorry 3.13 (dont know why I thought 3.14 made it in)
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04:27<tweek>hm, ok, so stable would be doable as well. i guess it's up to me whether i want stable or testing...
04:28<weasel>the 3.2.57-2 kernel from (soon) stable will have the e1000 drivers from 3.13
04:28<weasel>tweek: so, install stable, and try the one from proposed-updates, or wait for a couple of days and then try the updated debian stable.
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04:37<lev_>somiaj: mhm this command saved all screenshots in one file, so i changed to %Y-%m-%d-%T.png - so i get different files if i dont make two screenshots in one second
04:37<lev_>somiaj: but somewhy it doesnt understand milliseconds
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04:38<somiaj>lev_: man date
04:39<somiaj>or write a simple script
04:39<lev_>it must be %N
04:40<lev_>but in file name just appears "%N"
04:40<lev_>somiaj:
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04:44<somiaj>might be scrot only uses part of date syntax, man scrot, or write a script that will use a different name if the file is there, or put a random string at the end
04:44<somiaj>various ways to achive what you want
04:46<lev_>somiaj: ok I just will not make two screenshots in one second :D
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04:49<tweek>somiaj: how many packages (roughly) will the backports kernel depend on? do i need another stable system to get the dependencies?
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04:50<somiaj>tweek: packages.debian.org is the place to look, I think you need 2-3, or you can do as weasel suggested and grab the 3.2 kernel from proposed updates
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04:51<tweek>somiaj: thanks, that seems doable
04:52<somiaj>,v initramfs-tools
04:52<judd>Package: initramfs-tools on i386 -- squeeze: 0.98.8; squeeze-backports: 0.109.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.109.1; wheezy-backports: 0.115~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.115; sid: 0.115
04:52<somiaj>tweek: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/linux-image-3.13-0.bpo.1-amd64
04:53<somiaj>looks like you'll need at least the initramfs-tools package as well, most likely those will be the only two you need
04:53<somiaj>well you might want to grab the firmware package for your card if it needs it to, I'm not that familar with the card
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05:35<Osmann>EUZUBILLAHIMINEÞÞEYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
05:35<Osmann>ALLAHU EKBERRRRR! LA ÝLAHE ÝLLALLAH MUHAMMEDEN RESULULLAH!
05:35<Osmann>All Ademogullari error is annoying. Error repentant who are the best of
05:35<Osmann>Prayer, faith is the head and the savior of Hell. Prophet Muhammad s.a.v..
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06:09<leowby>gretings guys, it's a pleasure tc with us ! ('nice morning') !
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06:09<RainbowW>need a hand. i had two drives desync out of my 10-drive raid6 array due to a power failure ... they are drives b and k. i've reassembled and started the remaining 8 drives ... http://paste.debian.net/94518/ ... is there a way to re-add the remaining two drives without doing two full rebuilds, which will take a couple weeks?
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06:45<ichdasich>RainbowW: no.
06:45<RainbowW>ichdasich ... that's what i've come to find out. sadly. but at least the data is safe.
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06:46<RainbowW>which is why i chose raid6 to begin with ...
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06:47<musca>RainbowW: you are lucky to have lost only the redundancy
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06:48<RainbowW>i wish i knew why the 8 drives lost power, tho. i have no clue.
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06:49<ichdasich>btw... ic am currently suffering from this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=737921 . Is there a better way to vote for including the patch posted there in a sec-update to stable?
06:50<musca>RainbowW: if downtime is acceptable you can do a backup, then reinitialize the raid (i.e. with dataloss) and restore the backup to avoid the rebuild.
06:50<ichdasich>the issue is that openldap is linked against gnutls, and gnutls does not support sha512 as signature method for ssl certs, but my ca switched to sha512 only, hence i currently do not have ssl/tls for my ldap infra, which kind of... is not so nice.
06:53<RainbowW>musca, i don't have the space for a backup of that size. the most critical stuff on the array is backed up elsewhere of course, but reassembling my content collection (ripped DVDs, thousands of music and hundreds of audiobooks, ISOs and installables of software and drivers, etc) would be an incredible pain in the ass, especially on my tiny 2mbit pipe.
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06:54<musca>stuff without backup is named "abandoned"
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06:55<RainbowW>fair enough. replacable. but would rather not. the rebuild is in progress ... but truth be told, my array worked as intended.
06:56<musca>I see. It worked as a cache.
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06:57<RainbowW>i suppose. it's certainly been more stable in the three years or so i've had it than the pile of USB drives it replaced.
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07:46<leotech>hello guys nica morning, anyone known if have some imagemap editor for gnome, very thanks ?
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10:27<voltagex>hi, I've run reportbug but it's generated a .bug file instead of emailing it - how do I send this to the debian bug tracker?
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10:58<Elvano>Does anyone know how/where I do disable the 'alt + right mouse-click' shortkey?
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11:07<iste>for resizing windows?
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11:10<iste>I don't know which option it is in x11 itself, do you have a desktop enviroment?
11:10<Elvano>Gnome 3
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11:12<Elvano>It's just that Blender uses that shortcut as well and for future tutorial sake I'd like to keep Blender's shortkeys as default as possible
11:12<iste>I'm pretty sure there's a way to do it, but I don't use gnome 3
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11:14<Elvano>I'll have a look fro a gnome channel then. Thank you , iste
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11:15<iste>Elvano: I use awesome wm, and I had to bind mod4/super/winkey to alt
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11:15<iste>it normally uses mod4+right mouse to resize windows and left to move them so I guess it's not X11 specific
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11:16<shirish>how do I make apt-file list tell to list only the contents of one package, many a times it will list contents of other packages too.
11:17<shirish>for instance $apt-file list valac-0.24
11:17<shirish>will also list the contents of valac-0.24-vapi which I don't want.
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11:20<Elvano>I'll just ask the gnome users I know as soon they log on =p
11:20<Elvano>Thanks
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11:23<gsimmons>shirish: apt-file -F list valac-0.24
11:23<shirish>gsimmons: thanx, trying it.
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11:24<shirish>gsimmons: that did it. I guess the -F forces it to only list that one.
11:25<shirish>aha, it's --fixed-string -F Do not expand pattern
11:25<shirish>gsimmons: thank you for pointing in the right direction.
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11:40<tweek>trying to install testing, using the testing installer, because ethernet card requires 3.13 kernel. network config still fails. also tried unofficial image with firmware. it says 'network autoconfiguration failed; your network is probly not using DHCP'.
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11:42<mtn>tweek: does your network use dhcp?
11:42<tweek>my question is: is that the error message that i get when the card is not recognized?
11:42<tweek>because i'm quite sure dhcp does work
11:42<mtn>tweek: no, it isn't
11:42<tweek>wait, let me check, to be absolutely sure...
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11:44<tweek>same cable gives me an address on my old laptop
11:44<tweek>ok, so i got a dhcp server that works with my old laptop, but not my new (also, no, there is no whitelist or anything like that)
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11:45<tweek>i also tried manual config in the installer, didn't work either
11:46<tweek>wait... ok, after plugging the cable out and back in again (when i checked it on the other laptop), and then re-trying, it suddenly worked. weird.
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11:53<Zathras>Hi. On one server (both Wheezy) "xauth list" produces a "unix:10" display while the other has "localhost:10" and "localhost:11"
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11:54<Zathras>which package/config file causes this? (The one with the socket supports X over SSH, the other does not). This is what I am trying to debug
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11:56<Zathras>x11-common? I did not maually config that one on both servers so it should behave the same
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12:00<superpomme>what's the goal of this chat ?
12:00<mtn>superpomme: read the topic
12:00<mdik>get as many points as possible
12:01<mdik>your turn
12:01<shay>it surely is not to ask retarded questions
12:01<mtn>oh, yes, that's it!
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12:02<shay>http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120818015901/masseffect/images/7/7e/I-dont-want-to-live-on-this-planet-anymore.jpg
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12:28<asumo>anyone here
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12:36<debianer_>Is it possible to mount (with /etc/fstab) a sshfs from a user for the root user with rw?
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12:37<debianer_>I think i must change theese options: uid=1003,gid=100,umask=0,allow_other,_netdev 0 0
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12:39<tom__>hei
12:40<Khidnap>Install Gentoo
12:40<ncl>What a brilliant and original joke which isn't overused at all
12:40<Khidnap>Oops. Wrong channel
12:41<ncl>:>
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12:44<tom__>You are all Americans do?
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12:45<nishant>hi
12:45<asumo>linux makes me wanna shoot someone
12:45<asumo>lol
12:46<nishant>how to install different desktop environment
12:46<asumo>apt-get install
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12:46<asumo>anyone here managed to use rsa key login for vps?
12:46<nishant>whats vps?
12:47<asumo>for the love of god I cant get this retarded vps server to accept my key
12:47<asumo>virtual private server
12:47<nishant>oh
12:48<asumo>i use puttygen to generate a 2048 bit key and i cant use it to login
12:48<asumo>where is everyone here?
12:48<nishant>i duuno
12:48<asumo>this shit should be so simple but for some damn reason i cant do it
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12:49<debianer_>Any sshfs or fstab experts here?
12:50<asumo>seems like no one is even here
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12:51<sysvalve>wow, fstab expert
12:51<sysvalve>interesting denomination
12:51<asumo>?
12:52<asumo>was that some underhanded insult?
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12:52<sysvalve>asumo: nope
12:53<sysvalve>but fstab is pretty simple to have something like "an fstab expert"
12:53<sysvalve>its like saying "a Return key expert"
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12:53<sysvalve>:P
12:53<debianer_>Is it possible to mount (with /etc/fstab) a sshfs from a user for the root user with rw?
12:54<asumo>lol
12:54<asumo>help the guy out man :P
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12:55<shay>yes, but i guess that you'll need to permit root login in the sshd_config file of the server and have and generate public/private keys
12:55<sysvalve>debianer_: what do you mean from a user for the root user?
12:55<shay>but why on earth would you do that
12:55<sysvalve>you mean mounting from a regular user, but the mountpiont gets only RW for root?
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12:56<debianer_>There are two virtual machines. One is the storage, which has a normal user. The other virtual machine is mine with root access.
12:56<asumo>•shay• i have both the private and public keys
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12:56<asumo>and have edited the sshd_config to add the authorized_keys
12:57<shay>and RSAAuthentication?
12:57<shay>PermitRootLogin?
12:58<debianer_>sysvalve: mounting from a regular user with sshfs. but with fully rw access
12:58<asumo>•shay• i disabled root login
12:58<asumo>as I want to be able to login from my other user
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12:58<sysvalve>asumo: you may want to use without-password
12:58<asumo>i tried
12:58<jaideep>hey
12:58<asumo>that is the problem
12:58<jaideep>ppls
12:59<jaideep>u mother fuckers
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12:59<asumo>anyone willing to teamview into my box and look at these settings?
12:59<shay>no u
12:59<asumo>lol
12:59<jaideep>yay bitches
12:59<asumo>jaideep shut up n00b
12:59<debianer_>I´ve mounted the home-directory with works. But I have only rw access to one folder which was already created.
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12:59<jaideep>asumo shut the fuck up
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13:00<jaideep>hehehe
13:00<asumo>typical retards
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13:00<amphi_>!saturday
13:00<dpkg>i guess saturday is Tardsday Eve
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13:00<asumo>i guess
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13:02<asumo>why do linux people always act so damn snooby
13:03<asumo>trying to ask a simple question is like pulling nails
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13:04<asumo>i think so
13:04<musca>!ssh without password
13:04<dpkg>(1) on the client: ssh-keygen -t rsa (2) ssh-copy-id server.example.com. Ask me about <keychain> and <ssh-askpass> for ways of storing your ssh key's passphrase between uses. If you are wanting to use ssh to allow root logins for rsync backups (or something similar to that) then you might want to limit what this key can do and from where you can use it, see http://www.nanonanonano.net/linux/rootrsync for one approach.
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13:05<asumo>dpkg thx u
13:05<dpkg>no idea, asumo
13:06<asumo>so its better to create the private and public keys on the servers?
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13:08<musca>asumo: no, the ssh server creates its own keys during installation. You need keys for your client - and so the private key belongs to the client.
13:08<shay>how on earth did you get that conclusion
13:09<shay>asumo: you just got the answer
13:09<asumo>okay
13:09<shay>12:04 < dpkg> (1) on the client: ssh-keygen -t rsa (2) ssh-copy-id server.example.com.
13:09<shay>thats all
13:09<asumo>musca thx
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13:11<shay>asumo: the keys generated by the ssh service (note the use of the word service, as in the process that runs and talks the ssh protocol and not server as the machine to which you access via ssh) is used for verification and validation
13:11<shay>to make sure that you always connect to the correct server
13:11<shay>these keys have nothing to do with passwordless authentication
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13:11<asumo>how can i set up a passwordless authetication then?
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13:12<shay>you generate the keypair in your computer and you copy *your public key* to your user on the server
13:12<asumo>ive generated the rsa key
13:12<shay>now use the ssh-copy-id command
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13:13<asumo>No identities found
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13:16<lukey>is there a calculator like 'bc' that has built in complex numbers ?
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13:18<asumo>thank you all for ure help
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13:26<jaideep>retard?????]\
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13:26<luna>God help me cannot install arch on usb drive
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13:32<MrFrood>lukey: you have to build from source as there is no Debian package but you may want to take a look at clac (Command Line Advanced Calculator)
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13:33<lukey>MrFrood: Thanks for your assistance - I will check out clac
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13:36<hakann>EUZUBILLAHIMINEÞÞEYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
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13:50<Zathras>there is no display and .Xauthority does not get recreated when I ssh -X into a server. Any pointers?
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13:53<Zathras>nm. Joy oh joy
13:53<Zathras>ipv4/ipv6 issue :-(
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13:54<SpeakSpanishBoy>In Debian Testing how answer I about the ca-certificates in system update?
13:54<SpeakSpanishBoy>I don't know what to do.
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13:55<somiaj>SpeakSpanishBoy: first #debian-next is the offical channel, and is this giving you a warning that since libssl had the heartbleed bug you should regenerate your ca-certificates?
13:55<SpeakSpanishBoy>Sorry I will change in debian-next channel.
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14:12<jcstarken>good morning all I can add a repository the +add source button is not clickable
14:12<jcstarken>can not
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14:13<centrx>Where is this button?
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14:13<jcstarken>when you go to other software
14:13<jcstarken>and click on add
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14:13<centrx>Is this a program you are using
14:13<jcstarken>ubuntu software manager
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14:14<centrx>!ubuntuirc
14:14<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
14:14<centrx>jcstarken, The people in #ubuntu will know
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14:14<jcstarken>oh sorry wrong window
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14:25<socram8888>hello
14:25<socram8888>i am having issues setting system-wide umask with pam, can somebody help me?
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15:11<ivetcha>Hello. I'm trying to configure Flash plugin (actually in Tails, not Debian itself), I created /etc/adobe/mms.cfg with some settings (for example DisableDeviceFontEnumeration=1), but Flash (in Iceweasel) ignores those settings. Can you help me?
15:12<mtn>!tails
15:12<dpkg>Tails (The Amnesic Incognito Live System) is a live DVD/USB <based on Debian>, with the aim of preserving privacy and anonymity. It is not supported in #debian. https://tails.boum.org/ #tails on irc.oftc.net.
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15:17<ivetcha>Yes, I know. I asked in #tails, but there no any answers. I thought maybe that's not Tails specific problem and I can get some general advice... Sorry, I'm new to Linux.
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15:18<mtn>ivetcha: not supported in this channel, as the message stated. you could try ##linux on the freenode server
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15:19<ncl>ivetcha: I think the idea with tails is not to use flash in the first place because it can reveal your identity
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15:25<ivetcha>mtn: thank you
15:25<ivetcha>ncl: yes, I read warnings. I think, I can admit this risk. But I want to improve security with mms.cfg.
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17:30<sbaugh>Hey, I'm setting up preseeding for automated creation of VMs (that's the right approach right?) and it's working well, but the first menu where you pick between install, graphical install, etc. - how do I bypass that?
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17:53<Donboo>Hello!
17:53<Donboo>Byee
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17:54<centrx>sbaugh, You can also try asking in #debian on Freenode or #debian-boot on OFTC
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17:56<sbaugh>centrx: thanks :)
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18:05<test>when the programs from the Debian repository are not up to date, do they have more or less exploits than the newest versions from the program's homepage?
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18:32<usrnix>Hi, I accidentally used sudo when chmodding to 600 and am trying to give the files back to my user; I tried chown but it didn't work
18:34<Nemoder>sudo chown user:group file
18:34<Nemoder>chmod u+rw file
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18:38<usrnix>Nemoder: I'm getting Perm denied on cd-ing into the directory :s
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18:39<Nemoder>usrnix: sounds like you removed the executable bit
18:39<Nemoder>chmod u+x directory
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18:44<usrnix>Nemoder: Thanks a bunch; I must've done that when I tried chmod 0600 at one point ^^;
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18:46<Nemoder>usrnix: yup, for directories you'ld want +rwx or 0700
18:47<jonhhnyboy>Got Gnome 3 failed to load... message. how do i fix this?
18:47<jonhhnyboy>comploete noob to linux
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18:47<usrnix>GNU/Linux / GNU+Linux ;) ;)
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18:49<usrnix>Nemoder: Oh ok thanks
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18:52<jonhhnyboy>Got Gnome 3 failed to load... message. how do i fix this?
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18:53<usrnix>jonhhnyboy: don't worry, someone'll see it eventually; no need to repeat
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18:53<jonhhnyboy>i apologize im new here lol. dont mean to be impatient
18:53<devil>jonhhnyboy: is that the whole error?
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18:54<devil>jonhhnyboy: it always helps tocopy all the output to a pastebin like paste.debian.net
18:54<devil>jonhhnyboy: noone can help with what you posted above
18:54<jonhhnyboy>Gnome 3 Failed to Load ... possibly graphics hardware or driver
18:55<jonhhnyboy>i dont remember all of what it said
18:55<devil>jonhhnyboy: you need to go back and copy it
18:55<usrnix>Unfortunately GNOME3 can fail to load for a million reasons; mine failed for someone called 'ICE' which ended in me wiping my laptop :P
18:56<devil>one could install kde ;)
18:56<jonhhnyboy>is there a way i can aceess the message?
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18:56<jonhhnyboy>without restarting my comp
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18:56<devil>jonhhnyboy: maybe dmesg has it at the end
18:57<usrnix>Ctrl+Alt+F1 to go console (f7 to get back here)
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18:59<johnnyboy>when i do ctrl alt f1 it just prompts me to login
19:00<johnnyboy>idk what to do from there
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19:03<chuck_>how do i view old messages?
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19:15<usrnix>Does anyone know how to disable the internal speaker beep when backspacing too much?
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19:19<devil>usrnix: go to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add blacklist pcspkr
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19:26<sbaugh>usrnix: alternatively, disable bell for bash (google how to do that)
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19:32<std>HELO
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19:33<std>Hello Moonk
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19:34<std>\Frage? Wie installiere ich einen Drucker ?
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19:47<usrnix>devil: Thanks, add "blacklist pcskpr" or just "pcskpr"? Also does that moduel only control the internal mic?
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19:48<devil>"blacklist pcskpr" and yes. and it takes a reboot. if you want it now, do modeprobe -r pcspkr
19:48<usrnix>devil: Thanks, will make a note of that
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20:42<Guest6982>I am new to this chat thing. What is happening?
20:42<ncl>idling, join, quitting
20:43<ncl>typically in this channel people wait until someone asks a question then we try to respond to it
20:43<ncl>:>
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20:44<Guest6982>The only qusetion I have is this, how can I make the text bigger?
20:47<ncl>settings/preferences somewhere?
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20:48<Guest6982>I found the text thing but it didn't make the text any bigger down here where you type the message.
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20:49<ncl>According to this, you'd need to edit the gtkrc? weird: https://xchatdata.net/Using/Gtkrc
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20:50<ncl>Guest6982: I think freenode has a #xchat where you can ask
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20:51<Guest6982>How do you change chat rooms?
20:53<ncl>"/join #channel" to join a channel, clicking the channel in the channel list on your client should switch to it, either /connect or /server to change servers on xchat
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21:04<hexafraction>How long does it usually take for a new Java major version to land in debian repos? I'm working on a FOSS project and don't want to force my users to compile openJDK from source
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21:08<themill>hexafraction: there's work being done on openjdk-8 at the moment but it won't be in a stable release for at least another year. (Do you really need openjdk-8 rather than openjdk-7?)
21:09<hexafraction>themill: yes, due to some broken behavior in 7 with an extremely unreasonable workaround.
21:09<hexafraction>It's not really that important yet, my project isn't close to a release, we'd just like to know a bit about what to expect.
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21:23<DrDamnit>Fresh install of Debian Wheezy + XFCE. Terminal doesn't work. It opens, but I can't type or use anything it it. Known issue? Go back to gnome?
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21:48<mason->I need to install libgtk-1.2 on Wheezy. I've found the .deb files for it and its dependencies on the Debian Etch archives. Can I use that, or is it safer to build it?
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21:54<centrx>mason-, Probably safer to build it
21:55<centrx>mason-, Unlikely the dependencies would be compatible without recompiling
21:56<raku>ok so i did something stupid
21:56<mason->I appreciate it.
21:56<raku>i installed a netinstall of debian without internet on the machine
21:57<raku>but it has internet on it now so could i finish the install?
21:58<centrx>Yes
21:59<raku>alright how would i do that
22:00<centrx>You have an installed Debian system now, so you can use apt-get to install whatever software you would like
22:01<raku>well
22:01<centrx>For the list of collections of software to install, you can use tasksel
22:01<raku>hmm
22:01<raku>im trying to get ndiswrapper
22:02<raku>apt-get inst finding anything
22:02<centrx>raku, Based on "apt-cache search ndiswrapper" or http://packages.debian.org/ndiswrapper
22:02<centrx>raku, You probably want to do apt-get install ndiswrapper-dkms ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
22:03<centrx>apt-cache search ndiswrapper also shows a GUI front-end for it called ndisgtk
22:03<raku>that search returns nothing for me
22:04<raku>and as i said, i did a netinstall without internet so i only have tty
22:04<centrx>raku, Let's make sure your sources.list is correct
22:04<centrx>dpkg, tell raku about sources.list
22:05<raku>i did edit it
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22:05<anon_stack_smacher>hi linus folks
22:05<raku>it had one line at the top that was a cdrom deb thing
22:05<raku>and every time i tried to install something with aptitude it would ask for a cd-rom, i have debian on a usb and when i plug that in it doesnt recognize it
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22:06<raku>so my friend told me to remove any line in sources.list that had a cdrom on it
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22:07<raku>it had the security.debian.org ones though, commented, so i uncommented them
22:07<centrx>raku, Can you use paste.debian.net to show us what it looks like now?
22:07<somiaj>raku: yea internet sources are usually easier to use than a cdrom source unless you connenction is poor
22:08<raku>i dont know how i would centrx
22:08<raku>i only have tty
22:09<centrx>raku, Does the file consist of the three lines dpkg told you about ?
22:09<centrx>no more no less?
22:09<raku>it has some commented ones
22:09<raku>but none are those
22:10<raku>im adding the linex right now
22:10<raku>by hand
22:13<raku>its giving me a could not resolve error on all three sources when i do aptitude update
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22:14<centrx>raku, Did you type something wrong?
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22:14<raku>not that i know of
22:14<raku>im pretty sure i typed it correct
22:15<centrx>How do you know you're connected to the Internet?
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22:15<raku>i dont
22:15<raku>im using an app on my tablet called easytether
22:15<raku>you run the app and connect the device via usb to the box
22:16<raku>and then install the package
22:16<raku>both of which ive done
22:16<raku>then do easytether connect
22:16<raku>and thats worked before on installs of distros
22:16<centrx>You should verify that you're connected to the Internet first
22:16<raku>well, if i ave an active internet connection in tty1 will it cossover to tty2
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22:17<centrx>Yes
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22:17<raku>it should work then
22:18<raku>let me try to pping
22:18<raku>ping www.google.com
22:18<raku>give me unkown host
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22:20<ncl>raku: ping 8.8.8.8
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22:22<raku>the easytether trhing uses network manager
22:22<raku>would i have that
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22:23<raku>it says connect: Network is unreachable
22:23<raku>when i do ping 8.8.8.8
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22:24<centrx>Yeah you're not connected
22:25<raku>hold on
22:25<raku>i think i got a fix
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22:28<raku>i did this http://johntellsall.blogspot.com/2011/03/easytether-internet-tethering-for.html
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22:29<raku>it gave me an error at the end "chown failed to get attributes of '/etc/resolv.conf': no such file or directory
22:30<raku>and then another with chmod: at the start instead of chown
22:31<ncl>does /etc/resolv.conf exist on your system?
22:31<ncl>if not you could create it with "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in it I guess
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22:32<raku>it does
22:33<raku>it has namerserver 8.8.8.8 and nameserver 8.8.4.4
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22:38<raku>im doing all the commands as root so its not that it has insufficient permissions
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22:41<raku>i did the command with su -c "command"
22:42<raku>and the message didnt come up, but i have the same issue, if i ping 8.8.8.8 it actually does the ping but none o them respond
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22:50<raku>ncl:do you know what the issue couild be?
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