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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-04-26

---Logopened Sat Apr 26 00:00:45 2014
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01:46<jspiros_>I was just attempting to use some control commands in debbugs, and I ran into some errors...
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01:47<jspiros_>are only the submitter of bugs, and the maintainer, by default able to issue such commands?
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01:47<jspiros_>I ask in that way because I've previously been able to use Control commands on bugs I filed myself, and I've seen maintainers use them on bugs for their packages, but in this new situation I am neither the original submitter nor the maintainer
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01:49<jspiros>hmm, or perhaps it's only subscribers?
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02:00<me>Hi. Why sudo -u me sh -c 'touch dick' works while without the 'sh' part it doesn't. Can't find anything about this in man. Can someone explain this to me please?
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02:03<dpkg>The fifth <point release> for Debian 7 "Wheezy" (7.5) is scheduled for April 26th, 2014. This point release will correct some serious bugs and copy security updates across to the main archive.
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02:05<xormor>at what time is the 7.5 upgrade going to comee?
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02:07<bdog7>is it comming?
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02:23<MoonGNatRouth>I have 32bit kernel now. I just have compiled new 64-bit kernel. But update-initramfs makes 32-bit initrd and when system is statring it is writinig: "... linux Failed to execute /init (error -8) ... bin/sh exists but couldn't execute it...". I found in google that it's because kernel is 64-bit but initrd 32-bit. How can I compile 64-bit version of initrfd?
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03:42<softplay>good morning
03:42<softplay>i've problems with the wireless card
03:42<softplay>which is a usb card
03:42<softplay>it keeps disconnecting i cannot understand why
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03:49<mekt>What character encoding translation tool works with pipes? 'recode' only does files.
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03:55<FlowRiser>mekt: you can try a python script
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03:56<FlowRiser>softplay: what kernel do you have? Are you using wheezy?
03:56<FlowRiser>use uname -r for kernel version
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03:58<babilen>softplay: And do you really want to discuss two different issues on two different networks at the same time?
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04:35<xormor>7.5 has not come out yet.
04:35<dpkg>The fifth <point release> for Debian 7 "Wheezy" (7.5) is scheduled for April 26th, 2014. This point release will correct some serious bugs and copy security updates across to the main archive.
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05:16<kboy>Hi guys, I will install debian in few minutes, in my HD I have windows7, Ubuntu, 60 Giga of unallocated space, and Grub2. when I will install debian will it find automatically the unallocated space and will leave all the rest as it is?
05:18<EmleyMoor>kboy: You'll be able to partition it to use its own space fairly easily... can't speak for your exact situation, but it should be easy enough.
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05:19<kboy>EmleyMoor, i will try, thx
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05:27<kboy>is debian 7.4 a stable version or I have to choose something older to have the stable version of debian?
05:29<kboy>I don't want a beta or testing OS of Debian
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05:30<roughnecks>kboy: 7.4 is wheezy, stable.
05:31<kboy>ok thanks
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05:44<fcp13>hello please i'm using jessie kde and after apt-get upgrade & dist-upgrade i reboot and cant get kde
05:44<fcp13>only shell
05:44<fcp13>anyone can help please
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05:51<roughnecks>fcp13: for debian testing/unstable, see #debian-next
05:51<fcp13>thanks roughnecks
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06:31<kboy>Hi guys I'm trying to install debian but I don't go how to go on. this is the page where I am stuck, I want do install Debian in that empty space of 68.2 GB, the HD has Grub2, windows and Ubuntu. Some help please?
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06:33<kazyn>on which drive you want it to be installed?
06:34<kboy>It is 1 only HD, I want to install it in the empty space
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06:35<kazyn>i see that there is "unusable" space you have to take it as the main disk for ubuntu
06:35<kazyn>hit enter and then set it as a direction for "/" all
06:36<kboy>ENTER where?
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06:37<kazyn>between 2# and 3# drive you have unusable space of 60gb or sth
06:37<kazyn>you can install on this space
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06:39<kazyn>change file system on this disk to ext4
06:39<kazyn>there should be an option after hiting enter
06:39<kazyn>on this
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06:40<FlowRiser>kboy: like kazyn said change the option to ext4 and it should have an option "use as" and you select "/"
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06:42<kboy>no, the only message i get when i click there is: SHOW CYLINDER/HEAD/SECTOR INFORMATION. clicking it i get : THE FREE SPACE STARTS FROM (1111,.......) AND ENDS TO (1...............)
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06:43<kboy>and when i hit CONTINUE i get again the same screen
06:44<kboy>no other options i see
06:45<FlowRiser>kboy: ok, press enter on the partition you want to boot from
06:45<kboy>unusable... right?
06:46<FlowRiser>kboy: post a screen just to be sure
06:46<FlowRiser>if that is the partition you want to boot from, yes
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06:47<kboy>I want to install debian there, yes. I want to access to it from Grub2 and I have it yet because of Ubuntu that has installed it
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06:48<FlowRiser>kboy: do not worry about grub yet
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06:48<FlowRiser>it will ask you during install
06:48<FlowRiser>also, after you finish installing it, boot from ubuntu and run a sudo update-grub
06:49<FlowRiser>just to be sure that you'll get the option in the grub menu
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06:49<FlowRiser>also, after every kernel update on debian, you'll need to boot into ubuntu and run an update-grub
06:50<kboy>ok, clicking in that UNUSABLE space i just see HOW TO USE THIS SPACE: SHOW CYLYNDER HEAD SECTOR INFORMATIONS
06:51<FlowRiser>kboy: i do not remember that
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06:51<FlowRiser>you should use the whole partition
06:51<kboy>then: THE FREE SPACE STARTS FROM (............) AND ENDS AT (........). clicking on continue i get back at this screen
06:52<kboy>yes but as you can see there is no partition yet, it is just empty space
06:53<FlowRiser>uhmm, then do something else; boot from ubuntu and create a new ext4 partition in that space and then try installing debian again
06:53<FlowRiser>i think you can also do it from live mode
06:53<FlowRiser>i have the exact same configuration in this pc: Ubuntu, WIndows 7 and Debian
06:54<FlowRiser>i always partition before-hand
06:54<kboy>yes i see, ok i will try so
06:54<kboy>with gparted from ubuntu
06:54<FlowRiser>kboy: make sure you remember which partition is which
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06:55<kboy>FlowRiser, thanks, few minutes and I will be back.
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07:07<xormor>I succeeded in upgrading to 7.5 with the command apt-get upgrade.
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07:07<dpkg>Debian 7.5 was released on April 26th, 2014. This point release corrects some serious bugs and copies security updates across to the main archive. Support for additional Intel Ethernet devices (I210, I211, I217, I218, I354) was introduced. Further details are at . To upgrade, ask me about <point release>.
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07:13<fcp13>please i have a problem with fontconfig i can reeinstall kde to solve it?
07:13<fcp13>on my jessie
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07:49<deZillium>and it's finally here. Debian 7.5 is finally available at the mirrors
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08:35<seeS>anyone found a work around with gnome breaking on fglrx?
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08:41<somiaj>seeS: is this in testing/unstable?
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08:41<seeS>its connected to fglrx and clutter somehow
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08:42<somiaj>I don't use either, but #debian-next is where you should be, and look though bug reports
08:42<somiaj>seems to be various bugs with xorg and fglrx in sid right now
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08:43<seeS>its not that one, but what i got is reasonably common
08:44<somiaj>seeS: then do some debugging see what you can find, file a bug report
08:44<somiaj>also go ask in #debian-next this is a stable support channel
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09:34<deZillium>does anybody know if bonding via iproute requires SIOCGMIIPHY support?
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09:44<Fenhl>Hello. Does anyone know why `lsb_release -r` still says 7.4 after a dist-upgrade?
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09:45<somiaj>Fenhl: maybe it hasn't been updated to notice the small difference in the 7.5 packages
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09:47<Fenhl>is there a more reliable way to get the current Debian version number?
09:48<somiaj>Fenhl: lsb_release is the most relable way, let me check my laptop one second
09:48<somiaj>Fenhl: you could look at /etc/debian_version (note this is just a test file so I woudlnt' always belive it)
09:49<sps>cat /etc/debian_version
09:49<sps>lsb_release is for ubuntu generally.
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09:50<cornerma2>Fenhl: dist-upgrade does not "upgrade" to the next debian version, but only handles removal/addition of packages if needed for a package upgrade. check the manpage of apt-get. or am i misunderstanding what you are doing?
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09:50<somiaj>no lsb_release is for actually lots of different distros and can be a bit more accurate than /etc/debian_version -- one actually searches yoru system for paticular versions of stuff, the other just is a text file that is easily changed
09:52<Fenhl>/etc/debian_version also says 7.4 still
09:53<Fenhl>cornerman: I was under the impression that dist-upgrade is like upgrade but with more aggressive conflict resolution…
09:53<cornerman>Fenhl: yeah, that is what i understand too
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09:54<somiaj>in apt-get upgrade will upgrade packages that do not require adding ore removing packages to satsify dependencies
09:54<somiaj>dist-upgrade will upgrade all packages (if it can figure out the depends) even if it includes installing or remove packages in the process
09:55<somiaj>Fenhl: I just did a upgrade on my wheezy laptop, my files got correctly upgraded to say it was version 7.5 -- could it be your mirror is lagging a bit and dosen't have 7.5 on it yet?
09:57<Maulkin>7.5 was released a few hours ago, it may not be on all mirrors yet
09:59<somiaj>yea that would be my intial thoughts
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10:02<Fenhl>ah. I'll try changing to an official mirror.
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10:04<Fenhl>yes, that did the trick. thanks.
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10:42<wardhan>there is too much of crackling sound on my system. can somebody please look into the links suggest me a way :
10:42<wardhan>i have installed multimedia-jack & alsa
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10:46<wardhan>this is my mixer settings pic :
10:46<somiaj>wardhan: is the crackling over both sound cards or just one?
10:47<wardhan>i don's use hdmi. therefore i have no idea. but i have the issue with analog. i have installed latest kernel from experimental also
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10:48<somiaj>wardhan: I was wondering if we could rule out hardware or not. I do notice your PCM is fairly high, if you drop that to say 70% or so do you still have the crackling?
10:49<wardhan>wait, i will reduce pcm & see whether it has any effect...
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10:56<wardhan>somiaj: my audio is not working, starting qjackctl throws up error:
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10:57<wardhan>should i remove multimedia-jack package ?
10:59<somiaj>unsure what would be best for you, I personally just use alsa with out any sound servers on top
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11:02<somiaj>wardhan: but yes if you dont' need jack you can remove that package and see if it works. At least get it back to where you had crackling sound. (:
11:05<wardhan>somiaj: oops please excuse. for the above 2 messages... i hope my asoundrc configuration is correct :
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11:06<somiaj>wardhan: there is a much simpler way to do it (that will also use the default enabled dmix)
11:07<somiaj>wardhan: I would back up what you have, just cause that is good policy and then try
11:07<somiaj>where X is the number of the card/device you want to use
11:09<somiaj>wardhan: but I don't see any obvious errors with yours, I just found the method I pasted you simpler to use (and debian has dmix enabled by default which still works with this method)
11:09<wardhan>ok. i will reboot the system & let you know. right now purging jack.
11:10<somiaj>wardhan: you shouldn't need to reboot, but if that makes you feel better you should (:
11:10<somiaj>note it couild be your cards change numbers during the reboot
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11:19<topcyde>Just a point of curiosity. What's with the rash of large updates for debian lately?
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11:21<somiaj>topcyde: large updates? 7.5 was released today and so all of the security updates and serious bug fixes have been pushed into the main repos
11:22<kboy>I am trying to instaLL debian, I have on the HD: grub2, windows, ubuntu and now I will install debian. the installation program is askim me to use the same swap of ubuntu, modifying it. Someone knows if is ok or I have to create an its own swap?
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11:23<somiaj>kboy: there shouldnt' be any issues using the same swap partition since you won't have both running at the same time
11:24<somiaj>kboy: though if you want to be able to hibernate to the swap partition, then you cannot do this
11:24<kboy>i understand.. to me would be ok then
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11:24<kboy>let me try, thanks
11:24<JZTech101>ohai kboy
11:25<JZTech101>long time no see
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11:25<kboy>JZTech101, hi man
11:27<kboy>JZTech101, well i just have been here few times and the first time was some month ago i guess
11:27<JZTech101>kboy: lol =]
11:28*somiaj points at #debian-offtopic
11:28<kboy>JZTech101, when i talked with you? I don t remember sorry
11:28<fcp13>hia can i backup all my home dir with tar cvpf backup.tar `ls`
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11:29<somiaj>fcp13: I would just use tar cvpf backup.tar /home/username
11:29<JZTech101>kboy: on esper? or no?
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11:29<somiaj>fcp13: though I wonder if there will be an issue writting that backup.tar into your home dir the sametime you are backing it up, maybe put the file outside of /home/username
11:30<kboy>JZTech101, I don t know what esper is
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11:31<JZTech101>kboy: never mind then. Wrong person
11:31<fcp13>somiaj i run tar cvpf /mnt/usb/backupdir/backup.tar /home/username
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11:31<fcp13>it's ok?
11:31<JZTech101>ignore me
11:31<kboy>JZTech101, ok no problems
11:32<somiaj>fcp13: that seems just fine
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11:42<topcyde>somiaj: thanks I must have missed that announcement, been distracted with other projects.
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11:43<kboy>someone knows which version of grub has wheezy?
11:44<petn-randall>,v grub
11:44<judd>Package: grub on i386 -- squeeze: 0.97-64
11:44<petn-randall>,v grub-pc
11:44<judd>Package: grub-pc on i386 -- squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; wheezy: 1.99-27+deb7u2; jessie: 2.00-22; sid: 2.02~beta2-9
11:44<petn-randall>kboy: ^^
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11:46<kboy>ok thx
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11:49<kboy>I have wheezy, how to update grub to the last stable version?
11:50<fcp13>help when i try to fdisk -l appears Partition 3 does not start on physical sector boundary
11:50<fcp13>anyone can help?
11:51<Pepper>!tell kboy about update
11:52<petn-randall>fcp13: So you're asking about the impact of this warning?
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11:52<fcp13>i cant start kde
11:53<fcp13>i found that when i try to update my debian and when restart
11:53<fcp13>the goes to shell
11:53<kboy>how to update wheezy?
11:53<fcp13>doesn't start kde
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11:53<fcp13>and appears some msg of ata01
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11:53<petn-randall>fcp13: That's not related to the warning.
11:53<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
11:53<petn-randall>fcp13: ^^^
11:54<mtn>kboy: wheezy is stable software, it does not get newer software in most cases.
11:54<petn-randall>kboy: dpkg must have sent you a factoid, did that help?
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11:54<fcp13>than i try to backup all my home files
11:55<fcp13>and in the middle of backup appears that
11:55<fcp13>i google it and found some infos result of fdisk -l
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11:56<fcp13>sorry petn-randall :/
11:56<kboy>yes now I have read it thanks. I am new... sorry
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11:56<petn-randall>fcp13: That is a hardware error from your HDD, it's not related to any non-optimal partitioning of your disk. Can you check with 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' and paste the output to
11:56<Anik>hello vardhan
11:57<petn-randall>kboy: No problem, we also started out new ;)
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11:57<Anik>koi mujhe sun aur dekh sakta hai kya
11:57<wardhan>somiaj: even at 50 or 40 i have crackling issue, may i should repair the laptop. thank you for your valuable suggestions
11:59<somiaj>wardhan: yea unless you can rule out hardware (i.e. if you have windows do you get crackling there) I would say it is the hardware or the speakers you are using
12:00<wardhan>that's a good point, i never thought about it. i will install windows & decide about hardware issue.
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12:03<petn-randall>fcp13: Oh, you have 160 "Current_Pending_Sectors". That means that so many sectors are unable to be read from. Do you have backups from the data?
12:04<fcp13>i'm trying to do that backups but they stop, smartmontols can help?
12:04<petn-randall>fcp13: No, you've got unreadable sectors, that's a hardware problem.
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12:05<fcp13>yap :/
12:05<fcp13> i run tar cvpf /mnt/usb/backupdir/backup.tar /home/username
12:06<fcp13>but they stop in the middle of backup
12:06<fcp13>i'm lpost
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12:07<somiaj>fcp13: looks like you are just gonna have to get back what you can and that be the best of it
12:08<Pepper>kboy: aptitude update; aptitude upgrade
12:08<petn-randall>fcp13: You can try to get the readable data from the disk by using gddrescue, but you need at least as much space free somewhere else that can hold the size of the entire disk.
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12:21<mask>Im running debian 7 xfce and just did a manual install of Libreoffice 4, how do I get rid of libreoffice 3?
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12:23<somiaj>mask: you can uninstall the debian apcakges, dpkg -l | grep libreoffice to see package names you ahve installed
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12:24<somiaj>mask: If you put libreoffice in /usr/local/ and the binary links in /usr/local/bin/ they should be the ones used and both can probabaly live on your system.
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12:24<mask>somiaj, yeah they are already both living on my system, i thoughts i would clear out 3 to free up some memory
12:25<somiaj>mask: it is harddrive space wich is cheap, but yea just remove the debian libreoffice packages
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12:25<somiaj>mask: if you have some other package that depends on the debian libreoffice packages and you want to let dpkg know you have your own libreoffice install look at the package equivs (ways to tell dpkg you have it installed locally)
12:25<mask>somiaj, how would i write the remove code to target specifically libreoffice3?
12:26<somiaj>mask: how did you isntall libreoffice4 (did you use a deb file or did you manually put it somewhere like /usr/local)
12:26<mask>somiaj, deb file, then dpkg -i *.deb
12:28<somiaj>mask: what was the name of the package, was it libreoffice or was it something like libreoffice4 (i.e. did it follow debian package names or not)
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12:29<mask>somiaj, package was named LibreOffice_4.2.3_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz
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12:33<somiaj>mask: so there is a deb package in that tar? what were the acutal package names in that tar.
12:33<somiaj>mask: you can use if there were multiple packages
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12:34<somiaj>mask: I haven't used this install method so I am trying to see what is different in the packge names compared to debian
12:35<jamesD1>Good day to everyone. Can someone help me - I'm using laptop HP elitebook 8460p and having problem with hp-wmi kernel module, which shows 10.5 W usage in powerTOP (but it does not use that much actually). I blacklisted it on boot, seems to be working fine - is it OK to leave it like this?
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12:37<petn-randall>jamesD1: Pretty sure the power usage is bogus. You will only use the hotkeys support on your keyboard.
12:37<mask>somiaj, here is the printout from the terminal when I was installing
12:39<mask>somiaj, as near as i can tell there isnt any huge difference, they are all .deb packages, its just i couldnt find any native debian method for upgrading, so i just did the manual install
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12:39<somiaj>mask: well noticwe the package names are like libreoffice4.2 and libobasis4.2 and the likes, so dpkg -l | grep libreoffice -- and uninstall the packges that don't have a 4.2 in their name
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12:40<somiaj>mask: looks like debian provides 4.1 from backports, but this is 4.2. Would 4.1 be new enoughf ro you
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12:40<somiaj>mask: again I have no clue where these .debs come from and how well they are designed to work with debian. Provided they are sane debs (maybe they install everyting in /opt) it won't be an issue, but not all .deb's are made for debian wheezy
12:40<mask>somiaj, im not proficient enough yet with debian to figure out how to get it from backports
12:41<somiaj>oh this is easy, goto follow the instructions to add debian backports and apt-get -t wheezy-backports libreoffice -- that is it
12:41<somiaj>oh you ahve to apt-get update first
12:41<mask>somiaj, well, i guess its a bit late for that
12:41<somiaj>mask: again I don't know anything about these debs, if 4.1 is new enough for you I would suggest you remove all the debs you installed this way and use the backport method
12:41<mask>the file came from
12:42<somiaj>if you want to keep these debs isntalled and remove libreoffice3 like you suggest, dpkg -l | grep libreoffice -- remiove the ones that are assoicated with the version 3 package
12:42<somiaj>yea I don't know anythig about them or care to
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12:43<mask>somiaj, ok, so here is the printout for that command, what would the remove command look like?
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12:44<mask>"dpkg -l | grep libreoffice4* --remove"?
12:44<jamesD1>By the way, what does hp-wmi module does besides hotkeys support?
12:45<somiaj>mask: you will miss all the liboasis4.2 that you installed
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12:46<somiaj>mask: and use apt-get so it takes out depends, might start with 'apt-get --purge remove libreoffice4.2-base libobasis4.2-base' that might get most of them
12:46<mask>gimme a sec
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12:48<mask>somiaj, hmm that didnt seem to work
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12:48<mask>all the programs are still there
12:49<tziki>We don't have usb-creator-gtk or kde in the repo? Any reason why?
12:50<petn-randall>tziki: I'm pretty sure kde *is* in wheezy.
12:50<somiaj>mask: when you pruged those two packages it didn't purge the others, they must not depend on eachother
12:50<tziki>usb-creator-kde petn-randall
12:50<mask>somiaj, so what would I do to remove everything?
12:50<tziki>or usb-creator-gtk those are not in the repo
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12:50<myra3323>uhh hi?
12:51<petn-randall>tziki: Oh wait, that way makes a lot more sense now, sorry :)
12:51<petn-randall>Hi myra3323, do you need support with Debian?
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12:52<petn-randall>tziki: It's a Ubuntu-specific thing, you can simply create usb boot disks with cp.
12:53<tziki>Debian come shipped with unetbootin in the repository petn-randall but it didn't work for me. I had to install windows and use LiLi after unetbootin didn't work on windows either geeze
12:54<somiaj>mask: dpkg -l | grep 'libreoffice4.2\|libobasis4.2' -- then apt-get remove those packages (I think that should only get the ones you installed)
12:55<petn-randall>!tell tziki about usb install
12:55<petn-randall>tziki: Check what the bot sent you, it's pretty straight forward.
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12:55<tziki>well gee petn-randall i know
12:56<mask>somiaj, sorry but would you be able to paste into what the second line of that command would look like? I can do the first one, but then I dont know how to do it the "remove those packages" part
12:56<tziki>not my first usb install
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12:57<petn-randall>tziki: Then I'm missing what your problem is.
12:57<mask>somiaj, and im checking my sources.list file but backports is already there, and I run update almost everyday
12:57<mask>my libreoffice is still v3
12:58<tziki>I HAD a problem with dhcp spinning and other issues using unetbootin. I'd like to see usb-creator in the repository like ubuntu releases petn-randall
12:59<tziki>Now I feel like the usb install that I made yesterday, hold onto it for dear life and stick with Debian b/c it's a pain in the arse to make another one.
12:59<somiaj>mask: I would just apt-get --purge remove (copy paste each item in that list you get)
13:00<somiaj>mask: did you run apt-get -t wheezy-backports libreoffice
13:00<petn-randall>tziki: That attitude really won't get you far on this channel.
13:00<mask>somiaj, just tried, returned 'E: invalid operation libreoffice
13:01<tziki>what attitude petn-randall don't start no stuff won't be no stuff move on
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13:01<mask>somiaj, and i have backports main, contrib and non-free
13:01<somiaj>mask: apt-get -t wheezy-backports install libreoffice
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13:01<somiaj>mask: my mistake
13:02<mask>somiaj, now its going :) thx
13:03<petn-randall>!tell tziki about rfp
13:03<mask>somiaj, between each item for the --purge remove do i need to type "&&"?
13:03<petn-randall>tziki: If you're geniunely interested in getting it in Debian, you can file a bug. The bot sent you the details.
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13:04<somiaj>mask: no just list them aout apt-get --purge remove package1 package2 package3
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13:05<mask>somiaj, k, thx
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13:35<dea>sound input is not working, arecord shows nothing
13:35<dea>how this problem can be debugged?
13:35<dea>I guess pulseaudio is getting in the way. then arecord sees default and sysdefault devices
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13:42<kboy>I am trying to watch videos on youtube but iceweasel don't have it, what shoud I install and from where?
13:42<devil>kboy: flashplugin-nonfree
13:43<devil>or activate html5 in youtube
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13:49<kboy>well youtube now works but other websites not. Shoud I pay for this flashplugin non free?? adobe flash isn't available for debian?
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13:51<devil>kboy: just install it
13:51<MrFrood>kboy: non-free refers to the license, not cost
13:52<kboy>get it thanks
13:53<devil>kboy: you need contrib in your sources to br able to get it
13:53<kboy>what do you mean?
13:54<petn-randall>!tell kboy about non-free
13:56<Sycamore>I thought gnash supports the youtube player?
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13:58<kboy>Sycamore, youtube works on weaswasel withouth any plugin
13:58<Sycamore>so you got the html5 player?
13:59<kboy>Sycamore, dunno why it just works. I have done the synaptic update that's it
13:59<Sycamore>right click on the youtube player and it will say what kind of player it is
13:59<Sycamore>flash/html5 etc
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14:01<kboy>Sycamore, html5
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14:01<Sycamore>there you are
14:03<Sycamore>just install flashplugin-nonfree and you will be fine
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14:04<kboy>Sycamore, from where? the adobe website? so i need to use the terminal?
14:05<Sycamore>google "/etc/apt/sources.list"
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14:08<sakax>kboy: read the wiki &
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14:10<Sycamore>you add the contrib component to your source and then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree as usual
14:10<Sycamore>after sudo apt-get update
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14:10<Sycamore>sakax: of course :)
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14:13<kboy>I just get this from the terminal: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
14:13<kboy>E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? the # symbol is not necessary i think right?
14:13<Sycamore>you need to run those commands as root
14:13<Sycamore>are you a sudoer?
14:14<kboy>usualy I use sudo on ubuntu. to be root there I write: sudo -i plust the password. I don't know how works here in wheezy
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14:16<Sycamore>kboy: ubuntu is based on debian, so a lot of things are the same if not similar
14:16<Sycamore>debian wiki is your best friend, if not, ask here
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14:17<kboy>yes ok
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14:19<supaman>kboy: also read a bit of that should get you going
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14:21<CEP1977>alguien que trabaje con huayra
14:22<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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14:42<kboy>supaman, ok thx
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14:47<mihaela>book thief
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14:53<kboy>how is possible that to become root is so complicated? reading from the debian wiki is so frustating, omg I just need to become root and I am reading pages and pages... how come????
14:55<mtn>kboy: open terminal, type su
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14:57<kboy>mtn, thanks.. this wiki debian drives me crazy
14:58<mtn>kboy: you really should learn some linux basics before going any further. your life will be better for it ;)
14:59<kboy>sure the problem is that the people who wrote it don't like to BE SIMPLE
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14:59<mtn>kboy: hmm. simple?: In a terminal : you can use su Right from the wiki they told you about.
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15:00<kboy>it is simple but there a thousens of infos about it, Under gnome write... I am not under gnome. :)
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15:01<Pantera>ei gays
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15:01<kboy>I mean writhe TO BE ROOT GO IN THE TERMINAL AMD WRITE SU!
15:01<kboy>that's it! ahha
15:02<Pantera>yes yes
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15:02<Pantera>yuo speak spanish?
15:02<kboy>I am referring to the people who wrote wiki debian.
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15:03<Pantera>i dont know
15:04<Pantera>sois jilipoyas o k no ablais na??
15:04<Sycamore>kboy: under the Root article, "How to use root level access as a normal user">"In a terminal"
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15:05<Sycamore>surely typing the question on IRC or on a forum doesn't take longer than scanning the page
15:06<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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15:08<caravel>good day all
15:09<musca>hello caravel
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15:11<kboy>from the terminal is impossible install flash, someone knows how to do? I am root and writing: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree I just get Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
15:12<caravel>kboy: you need the non-free repository active, that's where apt will pull it from
15:13<caravel>hence I assume your other package comes from yet another repository
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15:14<kboy>This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate
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15:14<caravel>kboy: yes, please read me again just above ^^ :)
15:14<devil>kboy: we told you before about contrib
15:15<devil>caravel: it is contrib he needs, even though the name suggests otherwise
15:15<caravel>oh, that's contrib? sorry if so
15:15<caravel>kboy: always listen to the devil :)
15:16<kboy>devil, yes but I don't know what contrib is
15:16<caravel>it's a repo, kboy
15:16<kboy>I tought you were talking about a contribution in money to debian hahahaha
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15:17<caravel>I'd much suggest you read about Debian package installation and repositories, you would much gain to do so before you consider installing just *any* package from anywhere
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15:19<devil>kboy: [19:51:51] <MrFrood> kboy: non-free refers to the license, not cost
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15:20<Sycamore>tsk tsk kboy you complain about wiki pages yet don't read people's answers
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15:21<caravel>okay, I'm much looking for guidance too, folks :)
15:21<caravel>I'd like to set several Wheezy laptops in such a way they find each other "no matter where they are", meaning (a) a few of them on a LAN but isolated from the internet (b) in distinct LANs but connected to the internet behind NAT
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15:21<caravel>So, I'm looking at things like as well as avahi and jabber, potentially setting bind on each host, even
15:22<Sycamore>what about a vpn?
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15:22<caravel>yes, that's what IPOP is all about
15:22<Sycamore>didn't read your previous message heh
15:22<kboy>Sycamore, :) I read it but many things are new for me
15:23<caravel>but before I'd try these routes, I'd like to know what I could do, even a little harder, but exclusively from packages already distributed in our beloved stable repositories
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15:24<zulu>It's seems I successfully build a backport of a package using cowbuilder... where is supposed to be the resulting binary deb file?
15:24<Sycamore>caravel: can openvpn do what you want? haven't tried it but it's on the repos
15:24<caravel>Well, as I'd like the basic connectivity to be established "anywhere" between any two laptops, I assume I really need avahi in all cases, hence that's the very first thing I should set up. Is this correct?
15:25<caravel>eg. two laptops connected with a "twisted pair" cable, or over bluetouth PAN or wifi even
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15:26<caravel>Sycamore: to my understanding, this is part of the next steps. How could they establish a VPN without locating each other first?
15:27<kboy>can't find contrib. someone knows where it is or better how to install it?
15:28<Sycamore>kboy: it's there, you didn't read it
15:29<Sycamore>you don't install it, you merely write "contrib" after "main"
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15:32<kboy>so I have to copy these 6 files adding contrib non-free after main? or just contrib?
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15:33<Sycamore>did you read the article, again?
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15:36<kboy>yes seems I have to write the 6 lines adding contrib non-free. am i wrong?
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15:37<Sycamore>you said files so I understood that you didn't
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15:37<devil>kboy: one line is enough
15:37<Sycamore>don't copy the example it says, just add contrib after your own sources
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15:42<fcp13>can i repair the bad sectors, with fsck.ext4 -cDfty -C 0 /dev/sda5 ?
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15:45<kboy>i can't stop laughing guys seriusly, ok. apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, BUT i need to add contrib non-free after main. I don't see any main after apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree...
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15:45<Sycamore>okay, did you open your sources.list file?
15:46<caravel>!cz ?
15:46<dpkg>[cz] Czech Republic. Kanal pro cechy je #debian-cz
15:46<kboy>no and I don't know where is
15:47-!-mode/#debian [+l 652] by debhelper
15:47<Sycamore>so you didn't read the article?
15:47<dpkg>[non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see
15:47<devil>kboy: ^
15:47<dpkg>[contrib] Debian packages that contain <DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main (possibly packaged for Debian in non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb [wheezy|squeeze|jessie] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then «aptitude update». Also ask me about <non-free>, <contrib list>.
15:47<Sycamore>devil: flashplugin-nonfree is in contrib, not non-free
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15:48<devil>Sycamore: I know, just did not know there were 2 entries for it
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15:48<kboy>yes but it's not easy
15:48<devil>kboy: it takes 30 seconds at most
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15:52<kboy>30 seconds? haha are u teasing me
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15:53<Sycamore>kboy: Is English not your native language?
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15:54<Sycamore>then you should find support in your native language if that helps you
15:54<Sycamore>what's your native language?
15:54<musca>kboy: you are doing it well, hold on!
15:54<kboy>noo there are few people. Italy
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15:54<kboy>and often they don't answer
15:55<Sycamore>in #debian-it ?
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15:56<devil>kboy: so what is it exactly about adding 2 words to a file that you do not understand?
15:56<kboy>i wanna install flash
15:57<devil>we know that
15:57<kboy>from 2 hours lol
15:57<devil>kboy: mcedit /etc/apt/sources.list
15:57<devil>there you add contrib (amd non-free, if you like) to your debian line
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15:58<devil>save it, apt-get update && apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
15:58<devil>you need to do all that as root
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16:00<supaman>by adding contrib devil means make a line that looks like deb wheezy main .. look like deb wheezy main contrib
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16:03<kboy>mcedit /etc/apt/sources.list doesnt work
16:03<Sycamore>nano /etc/apt/sources.list
16:03<dvs>kboy: editor /etc/apt/sources.list
16:04<kboy>i have xfce
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16:04<devil>kboy: replace mcedit with whastever you like
16:04<devil>I did not know, debian proper lacks mc :)
16:05<kboy>that's why all wanna use ubuntu
16:05<sakax>kboy: xfce has mousepad as editor
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16:05<sakax>kboy: become root with su and then mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list
16:06<kboy>all this written in the tewrminal right?
16:06<sakax>kboy: not true - if you do not want to learn the basics you should indeed stay with ubuntu
16:06<sakax>kboy: yes, all in terminal
16:07<kboy>i wanna learn sure
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16:08<Sycamore>kboy: debian wiki has italian pages in it, if that's not easy for you then we can't help you
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16:10<kboy>english is better
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16:11<kboy>now I see in the sources.list several lines all ending with main. what shoud i do
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16:12<sakax>kboy: good, now add contrib non-free after each line
16:13<sakax>and save
16:13<sakax>then go back to terminal and use command apt-get update
16:13<sakax>now you will be able to apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
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16:25<kboy>something else to install flash?
16:25<kboy>it still doesn t work guys
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16:25<devil>kboy: dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-nonfree says what?
16:26<MrFrood>kboy: you may need to unistall gnash or similar
16:26<supaman>kboy: you made the command apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree?
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16:26<devil>apt-get update first
16:26<supaman>kboy: if so, you need to restart your browser
16:27<kboy>mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list
16:27<supaman>then do apt-get update
16:28<supaman>then do apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
16:28<supaman>then restart browser
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16:33<kboy>great now it works thanks guys
16:33<supaman>excellent :-)
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16:35<nisith>Hello! Can someone please help with fan control on my laptop? i8k not working...
16:36<nisith>i8k: unable to get SMM BIOS version
16:36<kboy>nisith, it is broken call assistance 4 another fan
16:37<nisith>Thanks for the reply. I didn't get it
16:37<nisith>what do you mean?
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16:39<kboy>nisith, I am a newby and I am here to learn the basics so I can't help you for debian. wait for some debian expert..
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16:39<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
16:40<nisith>I have a problem with fan control on Dell Inspiron - Debian Wheezy
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16:40<petn-randall>Hi nisith, can you add a lot more details to your problem description? It's of little use otherwise. What did you try to do and what did you get?
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16:41<DEB-NooB>I want to record a webstream - can audacity record that audio which comes from the speakers?
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16:41<petn-randall>DEB-NooB: Usually not. But there should be easier ways to this. What kind of web stream are we talking about?
16:41<nisith>I have install i8kutils, but it always returns -1 0. I am unable to control fan
16:41<nisith>i8k: unable to get SMM BIOS version
16:42<DEB-NooB>it's a 3 hour web-stream weeknights usually
16:42<nisith>my laptop is heating up, fan doesn't spin
16:42<nisith>it works on windows
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16:42<ompaul>nisith: that sounds a lot more like you need a new fan
16:42<ompaul>nisith: it works on windows - straight away
16:42<ompaul>or later
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16:42<ompaul>nisith: generally if you don't have good stuff installed you will find that it works
16:43<nisith>at boot, and when required
16:43<nisith>Wheezy is unable to spin it
16:43<nisith>Windows makes it work
16:43<nisith>now I have removed windows
16:44<ompaul>nisith: when did you remove windows
16:44<ompaul>nisith: how old is the machine
16:44<nisith>I thought everything is now good with debian install
16:44<nisith>Inspiron 1545
16:44<abrotman>nisith: I had to setup thinkfan for my laptop
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16:44<ompaul>nisith: if this was a common problem we would see lots of people turn up
16:45<guilherme>Hi I know that it is not the right channel, but where can I find help about openmp? Any channel here?
16:45<nisith>I found instructions about installing i8k on debian wiki and elsewhere, but it is unable to control fan
16:45<nisith>why does it say i8k: unable to get SMM BIOS version
16:46<abrotman>nisith: have you ensured your BIOS is up to date?
16:47<nisith>but, there is no option for fan in bios like I have on my HP laptop
16:47<nisith>not sure how fan is built to work!
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16:48<ompaul>try lm-sensors
16:48<ompaul>what is the result of modprobe -v i8k
16:48<nisith>Right Fan: 0 RPM CPU: +61.0°C
16:49<nisith>it's loaded OK
16:49<ompaul>doesn't look like the output ofthe command I was expecting
16:49<ompaul>I'd like to see it
16:49<nisith>I pasted only the last part
16:50<ompaul>what command did you run?
16:50<ompaul>what is the result of modprobe -v i8k
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16:50<nisith>when I did it first time it had a message with [OK]
16:51<ompaul>oh that's the command I asked you to run is it
16:51<nisith>now if I redo it, it shows nothing
16:51<ompaul>oh well nothing for it then
16:51<ompaul>you didn't do what I asked
16:51<ompaul>exactly what I asked
16:51<nisith>sudo modprobe -v i8k
16:51<ompaul>or if you did the world has changed an awful lot
16:51<ompaul>sudo meh janwhahanfaqas hate sudo
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16:52*caravel will read any answer tomorrow hopefully, thanks (afk)
16:52<nisith>what else
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16:54<ompaul>so have you used i8kutils
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16:55<ompaul>if you haven't please install, then edit in /etc/default i8kbuttons and i8kmon change enabled to 1
16:55<ompaul>service i8kmon start
16:55<ompaul>hopefully you start getting something
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16:57<ompaul> i8kctl temp ;; i8k fan should tell you if any fans are on at 0 is off 1 is slow two is fast - is don't change the state i8kctl fan 2 2 is turn on both fast (assuming two
16:57<nisith>[ ok ] Starting Dell Inspiron fan/cpu-temperature monitor: i8kmon.
16:57<ompaul>sorry that;s turn on second fan fast
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16:57<ompaul>i8kctl temp says what
16:58<ompaul>i8kctl fan says what
16:58<nisith>for all i8kfan cmd I just get -1 0
16:59<nisith>can't change it
16:59<ompaul>try i8kctl fan - 2 2
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16:59<nisith>ompaul, thanks for your interest to help
16:59*ompaul still hates sudo
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16:59<abrotman>no, we pay him in crusty bread
17:00<nisith>same, I get -1 0
17:00<ompaul>nisith: you has something un con troll able there
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17:00<ompaul>but why haven't we seen lots of people with your machine
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17:00<abrotman>there are a number of other userspace fan controls
17:01<ompaul>why isn't this well known ...
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17:01<ompaul>abrotman: shoot
17:01<nisith>I saw one bug report in Ubuntu with same problem about 1545 machine
17:02<ompaul>don't care about ubuntu tbh
17:02<ompaul>different kernels
17:02<ompaul>different liquorice allsorts
17:02<abrotman>shoot what?
17:02<nisith>I am fairly new to Linux internals
17:03<nisith>hope some gurus will help
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17:04<nisith>When it reaches 100C, it panics and turns off
17:04<ompaul>abrotman: with other tools
17:04<abrotman>judd: info fancontrol
17:04<judd>Package fancontrol (utils, extra) in wheezy/i386: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. Version: 1:3.3.2-2+deb7u1; Size: 42.4k; Installed: 69k; Homepage:
17:04<abrotman>it requires some setup
17:04<nisith>I did lm-sensors
17:04<nisith>all setup done
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17:05<ompaul>now you might try fancontrol
17:05<nisith>no avail
17:05*abrotman didn't say lm-sensors ?
17:05<nisith>I thought that's for ThinkPad
17:05<ompaul>what is
17:05<abrotman>judd: info thinkfan
17:05<judd>Package thinkfan (misc, extra) in wheezy/i386: simple and lightweight fan control program. Version: 0.8.1-1; Size: 32.3k; Installed: 118k; Homepage:
17:05<ompaul>different animal
17:06*abrotman would think thinkfan is for thinkpad
17:06<nisith>I think I have installed fancontrol
17:06<nisith>it's lm-sensors
17:06<abrotman>did you configure it? it's not magic
17:06*devil thinks so to, although I never thought about the fan in my thinkpad, because I never heard it
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17:06<rryoumaa>how critical is it to reboot for the new linux kernel that got into wheezy recently?
17:06<devil>maxybe they forgot to put one in? ;)
17:06<nisith>yes, I followed some instructions on web
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17:07<ompaul>$some interesting variable
17:07<abrotman>rryoumaa: look at the changelog
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17:11<nisith>everything works fine, just fan doesn't work and it is making my laptop a trash
17:11<abrotman>so everything doesn't work fine ..
17:12<abrotman>nisith: try thinkfan, might work on your hardware. I had better success with it
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17:12<abrotman>it says it was originally designed for thinkpads, but should work on anything now
17:12<nisith>ok, let me try thinkfan
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17:17<nisith>wow, thinkfan setup too much
17:17<nisith>too many steps
17:18<abrotman>uh .. it's easy
17:18<nisith>sudo /etc/init.d/thinkfan start
17:18<nisith>does nothing
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17:18<abrotman>do you have an aversion to reading documentation?
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17:20<awal>nisith, thinkfan is made for Thinkpad. It will not work in other laptops, don't bother yourself!
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17:21<abrotman>awal: no, it is not .. read the docs
17:21<abrotman>hell, read the description
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17:22<nisith>it supports any kind of system via the sysfs hwmon interface.
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17:24<nisith>can someone point me to thinkfan setup for Wheezy
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17:28<awal>Iabrotman, I'm not sure that it works in othewr laptops. I tried it in Lenovo Ideapad and it doesn't work; in Dell it will be a miracle...
17:28<abrotman>awal: read the damn documentation
17:30<awal>abrotman, I did...
17:30<awal>theory & practice = 2
17:30<abrotman>awal: What's your better suggestion?
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17:34<awal>abrotman, I'm not discouraging...I just talk about what I experienced and what my friends did in there IBM machines too...Nishit, good luck ...
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17:34<abrotman>And it works great for me ..
17:34<nisith>no solution?
17:35<nisith>thinkfan didn't work
17:35<awal>abrotman. which machine you have??
17:35<abrotman>awal: a Thinkpad
17:35<awal>abrotman, oh ! thinkpad of course
17:35<nisith>I played with /etc/thinkfan.cof
17:35<abrotman>awal: again, you're not helping ..
17:35<abrotman>awal: perhaps you sohuld offer to help nisith instead of being a PITA
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17:37<nisith>My laptop isn't there in compatibility list of i8kfan
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17:39<awal>abrotman, I'm not english spoken...I dont really understand the meaning of PITA in this context...I hope you are not insulting me ...
17:39<ad_de>Hi, how do I remove the "Linux 2.6.32-042stab084.14 #1 SMP Mon Dec 16 12:16:56 MSK 2013 i686" on logon?
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17:41<nfisher>Hi all! My HDD crashed and now im on a USB stick which is basically full (60MB left). On monday my new ssd will arive. how can i install debian on my ssd without using another storage device?
17:41<ayaka>nfisher, network install
17:41<dpkg>netinst is probably a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See See also <various cd1>, <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>.
17:42<abrotman>ayaka: no .. that's not true
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17:42<ad_de>Hi, how do I remove the "Linux 2.6.32-042stab084.14 #1 SMP Mon Dec 16 12:16:56 MSK 2013 i686" on logon?
17:42<abrotman>the netinst will overwrite all information on that USB stick
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17:43<ayaka>sorry, I know there is a way to boot from network but I use the wrong keyword
17:44<ad_de>Hi, how do I remove the "Linux 2.6.32-042stab084.14 #1 SMP Mon Dec 16 12:16:56 MSK 2013 i686" on logon?
17:44<abrotman>ad_de: please stop repeating
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17:45<nfisher>well, i might be able to get a hold of another usb... i guess i do that then
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17:45<awal>nisith, wich model of dell inspiron you have?
17:46<ayaka>nfisher, you could use ssd to install system on ssd itself if you could accept there are two partitions in ssd
17:46<nfisher>ayaka, naw, ill get another usb i think :)
17:47<nfisher>its quite small anyways..
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17:48<ad_de>Hi, how do I remove the "Linux 2.6.32-042stab084.14 #1 SMP Mon Dec 16 12:16:56 MSK 2013 i686" on logon?
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17:52<devil>ad_de: what is it exactly that is wrong?
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18:01<awal>devil some days ago you said that you use google-chrome. How google-chrome updates? A google repo must be added to sources.list?
18:02<devil>awal: thats one way, yes
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18:04<awal>devil, it updates when pepperflashplugin-nonfree is updates too? or what is the other way? just curious bcuz wanna try it
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18:07<awal>"is updated too"
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18:11<devil>no, it updates with new releases. those incorporate flash updates
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18:13<awal>devil, ok. thanks for the info :)
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18:14<idowi>whats the first server the 7.5 iso will appear on?
18:16<centrx>Probably ftp.d.o or one of the like or
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18:50<cookta2012->question why does debian keep making me run fsck and it keeps fixing the SAME inodes
18:50<centrx>Hardware problem?
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18:51*cookta2012- is glad he didn't think of that and ran other tests and it says all hardware is fine
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18:54<cookta2012->Might i emphasize it is the SAME INODES
18:54<cookta2012->what else can i do mabey a defrag?
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18:56<centrx>You already ran badblocks ?
18:56<cookta2012->cookta2012 >> n00b
18:57<centrx>badblocks will find bad sectors on disk and mark them as unusable
18:57<centrx>A hard disk can work fine but have some "bad blocks" that just need to not be used
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18:57<centrx>I thought fsck marked them as part of its normal business, but maybe it requires using badblocks
18:58<cookta2012->can badblocks be ran while / is mounted?
18:58<centrx>Otherwise, paste the log to and put the link here
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18:59<centrx>cookta2012-, See man badblocks
18:59<centrx>Especially "it is strongly recommended that users not run badblocks directly, but rather use the -c option of the e2fsck and mke2fs programs."
19:00<centrx>and "Normally, badblocks will refuse to do a read/write or a non-destructive test on a device which is mounted, since either can cause the system to potentially crash and/or damage the filesystem even if it is mounted read-only."
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19:01<cookta2012->would it be better to run the install disk and pull a shell up there so it can scan it better?
19:02<centrx>Yes, or a live CD or any boot media
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19:20<cookta2012_>Centrix what were the two commands bad blocks recommended
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19:21<cookta2012_>Centrx what were the two commands bad blocks recommended
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19:22<centrx>cookta2012_, e2fsck -c
19:22<cookta2012_>It says it is not a ext2
19:23<centrx>Apparently e2fsck is for all of ext2/ext3/ext4
19:24<cookta2012_>Why does it say bad magic string then?
19:25<cookta2012_>Or bad superblock
19:25<centrx>cookta2012_, I don't know, do a web search with the error message
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21:01-!-SynrG changed the topic of #debian to: Welcome to the Debian Stable support channel | openssl: /msg dpkg dsa2896 | wheezy released: /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy | current point release: /msg dpkg 7.5 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next
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21:08<deepblue>i wanna install GNOME Awesome Applet in my Debian wheezy 7.4Gnome but i get this error'dependebcy is not satisfiable:python-Gnome-applet(>=2.30.2) how to fix this?
21:10<SynrG>deepblue: you don't. probably.
21:10<SynrG>where's that from? not debian ...
21:10<deepblue>it's a Deb file
21:11<deepblue>why cam;t it be unstalled?
21:11<SynrG>you don't install random deb files on your system.
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21:13<SynrG>that's absolutely ancient
21:14<deepblue>SynrG: ok,thamx
21:14<SynrG>hasn't been touched in 2 years
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21:27<elico2>Hey I want to rebuild a deb package and I have changed the compilation flags.
21:27<elico2>I am unsure if I need to add something about the new files that was added to the build.
21:27<elico2>I have tried the wiki but with not much knowing what to look for it's harder.
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21:35<nisith>What does it mean by "backport changes upto Linux 3.13"
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21:35<nisith>Update to stable 3.2.57
21:36<nisith>Does it mean even though Wheezy 7.5 has Kernel 3.2.57, it has all features upto 3.13?
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21:39<babilen>nisith: Yes, it means exactly that
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21:40<centrx>"all features"?
21:41<babilen>Well, that is a very imprecise formulation
21:41<centrx>Okay, the full line is: e1000e,igb: Backport changes up to Linux 3.13
21:41<babilen>And nisith also quoted out of context
21:41<babilen>nisith: As you obviously didn't quite the statement in its entirety you shouldn't assume that the kernels are identical. Let me quote it in toto "Update to stable 3.2.57, 3.2.55-rt81, drm/agp 3.4.86; several security fixes; e1000e, igb: backport changes up to Linux 3.13" -- note the igb in there.
21:42<centrx>That makes more sense
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21:45<nisith>igb means?
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21:47<nisith>"e1000e, igb: backport changes up to Linux 3.13" What does this mean?
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21:48<babilen>nisith: Commits to those two modules have been backported
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21:50<nisith>does that mean Debain Wheezy willl now fully support Intel core i5/7-4xxx
21:50<nisith>integrated graphics
21:50<nisith>does it support Intel Iris Pro?
21:50<babilen>nisith: +
21:51<babilen>nisith: Do you want to install 3.13 ?
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21:53<nisith>If I buy a laptop with i5-4300M + Intel HD Graphics 4600, will Wheezy 7.5 work? Dell E6540
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21:53<babilen>nisith: Is that hardware supported by the 3.13 kernel?
21:54<leoslax>nisith, yes, Debian 7.5 will work in this laptop
21:54<babilen>Not entirely sure about that gpu -- do you have the pciid of that device?
21:55<leoslax>probably do you need the propertary driver for wifi interface
21:55*babilen has the feeling as if nisith is not really asking the actual questions (s)he is trying to answer
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21:56<babilen>A wifi adaptor has so far not been mentioned and it probably just needs firmware and, maybe, a newer kernel.
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21:57<nisith>Someone told me I'll need latest linux kernel for E6540, Debian Wheezy 7.4 may not work
21:57<nisith>Debian 7.5 is released today, so I was wondering if it'll work
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21:59<leoslax>nisith, i have use debian 7.4 in a ultrabook with Intel HD 4600
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22:00<babilen>nisith: YOu can easily install 3.13 on wheezy so that shouldn't pose a problem at all (cf. <bdo kernel>)-- the real question is if you need *other* new software and, in particular, Xorg
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22:01<babilen>I wouldn't necessarily expect that hardware to be problematic, but I can only tell you for sure if you can give me the pciid of the devices in question
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22:04<nisith>How do I get pciid? I don't have the machine yet
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22:08<nisith>It is certified to work with Ubuntu 12.04.2
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22:13<somiaj>nisith: the worst case scenerio is going to be you you will need a kernel from backports then
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22:14<somiaj>nisith: again if hardware works with linux this is usually is a factor of having kernel support and ubuntu uses the same main linux kernel it just may be of a newer version by default. But fairly new kernels are provided for debian and the debian kernel does have decent drivers backported to it
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22:22<nisith>Dell provides a driver package for Ubuntu on E6540 which I guess won't work for Debian 7
22:23<somiaj>nisith: My guess is all the drivers either come with the main linux kernel or you can get them from the hardware manufacture for the indviduial pieces
22:24<somiaj>nisith: it kinda depends on the driver package, but I would just wait until you have it to get the hardware working and come ask here if you want some help with debian specifics
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22:26<nisith>Ok, thanks everyone for your responses
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22:27<leoslax>your welcome nisith
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22:36<nfisher>How can i check if Hardware-Acceleration is on when viewing YT-Videos in chromium=
22:37<somiaj>nfisher: xvinfo, glxinfo tells you what sort of xv and glx modes you have currently loaded
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22:43<acald3ron>i got this message from the update of today: "Your apache2 configuration is broken, so we're not restarting it for you."
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22:44<acald3ron>i fix it. it was a domain.conf file !
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22:47<somiaj>acald3ron: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
22:48<leoslax>it's not enough sudo apache2ctl restart??
22:49<nfisher>somiaj, thanks i got a little further :) but im to tired to continue.. n8 all
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22:50<somiaj>leoslax: I am just use to the sysvinit scripts, and if you have systemd-sysv installed it can use the scripts too. (:
22:51<ncl>Hm, on my laptop I occasionally restart all services quickly by doing `init 1` and then ctrl-d at the root prompt (which it'll then fall back to init 2 again), how would I simulate this effect on a headless homeserver
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22:51<somiaj>ncl: systemd or sysv?
22:51<leoslax>ok, thanks somiaj !!
22:51<ncl>somiaj: sysv
22:53<somiaj>ncl: umm, this may work, for i in /etc/init.d/S*; do service $i restart; done
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22:54<somiaj>ncl: arg I corss my train of though, for i in /etc/rc2.d/S*; do $i restart; done
22:55<somiaj>crossed my train of though (was thinking of multiple ways and kinda mixed it)
22:56<somiaj>I guess another way is runlevel 3 is the same as runlevel 2 by default, so just init 3 (no need to go to 1 and back to 2)
22:57<somiaj>justy rember you did that so you can go back to 2 next time you need to do it
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23:17<ncl>also, somiaj, do you know much about /dev
23:18<somiaj>ncl: I let udev do most the work, haven't had to manually mess with /dev since it was introduced
23:18<somiaj>ncl: but just ask your actual question
23:18<ncl>if I have a small system and want to save a tiny bit of ram, can I drop udev and let the kernel handle my devices considering the hardware is pretty much static
23:18<ncl>s/small system/embedded system/
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23:19<abrotman>probably not anymore .. but it's easy to test in a VM
23:19<ncl>currently I've been killing udev after boot and it's not caused any trouble
23:19<abrotman>right ... because your devices are already created
23:20<ncl>yeah, I'm not sure if the kernel might bring up stuff like wifi maybe
23:20<abrotman>again, test in a VM
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