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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-05-08

---Logopened Thu May 08 00:00:03 2014
00:00<somiaj>and #debian-next is where you want to talk about such things (:
00:00<sney>there may be more complex solutions, but that's the easy one. and yes, #debian-next
00:00<somiaj>and rember you testing the ugprade processes, which may not be clean with that many packages installed.
00:00<GinoMan>I've done that before but it's a lot of packages.... my fear is that I'll end up in a situation like I did in LMDE where I accidentally removed libstdc6 and couldn't do ANYTHING, rebooting after a hard shutdown brought me to a kernel panic
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00:08<rjsalts>somiaj: I'm using wheezy with a 3rd party repo which has a package Provides: libmysqlclient18 and Conflicts: libmysqlclient18 ("deb http://repo.percona.com/apt wheezy main" if you're curious)
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00:21<Liquid>I have got a manual to learn c programming and the manual spoke about it teAching from c11 and the gcc website talked about the compiler using like c80 something - c 90 something
00:21<Liquid>Many of the example programs will not work with this gcc is there a linux compiler that will compile all of them
00:21<somiaj>rjsalts: to bad there is a Conflicts in there, maybe rebuild the package, and removes the Conflicts line and then use equivs so you satsify dependencies for other packes
00:23<somiaj>rjsalts: maybe #debian-mentors will have better advise.
00:23<Liquid>Or am I stuck and going to have to track down a c manual that teaches the c form that gcc can compile?
00:23<somiaj>Liquid: you would have far more luck if you asked on a c specific channel
00:23<somiaj>more might understand the difference between c80, c90 or what not
00:23<rjsalts>Liquid: and I don't think any compiler fully implements C11
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00:25<Liquid>Sorry if any of this was a bother I didn't know where to direct this question and also I don't use irc that much so I don't know of a c channel
00:25<somiaj>Liquid: there is a #c on this network, and ##c on irc.freenode.net
00:26<Liquid>somiaj thank you for you help sorry for any trouble.
00:26<Liquid>Oh ok thank you so much
00:27<somiaj>Liquid: no trouble, you just might get better help elsewhere. (:
00:27<rjsalts>Liquid: no trouble, just it's really specific knowledge that only experienced C programmers are probably going to know
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00:28<Liquid>I understand
00:28<Liquid>Thank you two so very much
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01:44<Win>I just ran rkhunter and I got to warnings for dpkg? I noticed it after I was searching for free Ebooks online. But also I was thinking the warnings may have cam from the last update that didn't seem to go right. What should I do?
01:45<jm_>1) why are you asking us if you got warnings for dpkg - you should know if you do or don't. 2) what warnings during update and what went wrong?
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01:47<Win>I didn't mean to type the question mark after dpkg. As for the update that seemed to have went funny was the GUI update program after download and installs was done it passed and stayed like that never done hat before
01:48<jm_>but it all works OK now and you can install/update things? what does rkhunter show?
01:48<Win>Never done that before
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01:48<Win>Warning for usr/bin/dpkg
01:49<Win>I haven't tryed to install anything from the time of the update to know
01:49<Win>Now
01:49<jm_>what warning?
01:50<Win>When I went to /usr/bin/dpkg I tryed opening it up but the text was like code. But rkhunter just gave the warning after dpkg
01:51<Win>I am really new to linux and don't know a lot about what to do with all this or where to start
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01:51<jm_>is that all that rkhunter says? can you put its entire output to some pastebin? (/msg dpkg paste)
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01:52<Win>And rkhunter didn't say anything more than warning after /usr/bin/dpkg
01:52<epoch_qwert>(Win, when talking about stuff like this it is usually important to say *exactly* the warning or error message you got.)
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01:53<epoch_qwert>"/usr/bin/dpkg: warning" is the message in its entirety?
01:53<Win>Sure if it would help. Also you don't think that it could be something malicious do you
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01:54<epoch_qwert>lol.
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01:54<epoch_qwert>Yes. It will help. No. Its fine.
01:54<epoch_qwert>I'll repeat when he rejoins.
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02:24<m_invern>hallo
02:24<m_invern>hallo
02:24<m_invern>hallo
02:24<m_invern>hallo
02:24<m_invern>hallo
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02:26<weasel>hallo.
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03:12<Plague>Sewg
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04:05<raylu>i'm on debian testing/jessie and just upgraded gnome-shell (and some other stuff). now, f1 in my terminal brings up some sort of help dialog
04:05<raylu>how do i disable this feature?
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04:05<jm_>as per the topic, #debian-next is for testing/sid
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04:21<twb>$coworker has (old) code that installs both linux-image and initramfs-tools from wheezy-backports; I'm only installing the former from backports.
04:21<twb>AFAIK it's working for me, but am I missing something?
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04:25<babilen>judd: why linux-image-amd64 initramfs-tools --arch=amd64
04:25<judd>Packages linux-image-amd64 and initramfs-tools in wheezy/amd64 are linked by 1 chains: linux-image-amd64 ▶ linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 ▶ initramfs-tools
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04:26<babilen>twb: ^^
04:27<twb>babilen: sorry I was not very clear
04:27<twb>I'm installing initramfs-tools/wheezy he's installing initramfs-tools/wheezy-backports with a comment like "# this doesn't work with wheezy version"
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04:28<twb>And I want to establish if 1) he's crazy; 2) there WAS a bug, but it's fixed; or 3) the bug's still there, and *I* just didn't see it.
04:28<macfreak>I'm new to intel AMT
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04:28<macfreak>Configured a desktop board from intel DQ87PG and an Intel core i5 cpu
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04:29<macfreak>has someone tried this before (intel amt) ?
04:30<planetmaker>!ask
04:30<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:32<themill>twb: the kernel packages have a versioned dependency on the newer initramfs-tools. It may be simply that an interface changed for how the initramfs is generated
04:32<twb>themill: hum; I had a look at mine (3.13) didn't pull in a bpo initramfs-tools. Lemme look again
04:33<twb>Aha, this one is running a custom kernel I built with "make deb-pkg", so it's probably 100% my fault
04:34<jm_>so good for your coworker, he's not crazy :)
04:34<twb>Of course, it *is* at least working for me. But I'm probably just doing something different.
04:35<macfreak>okay, I've configured intel ME to the ip address 192.168.1.2 and subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Shouldn't it be pingable by now ?
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04:35<twb>macfreak: is that a BMC?
04:35<jm_>macfreak: why are you asking about it in #debian?
04:36<macfreak>Because i'm installing debian on it after
04:36<jm_>ok but AMT specific have got nothing to do with debian
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04:36<jm_>specifics
04:36<macfreak>okay, can you point me to where I should ask then ?
04:37<jm_>I have no idea really, doesn't intel have some forums where you can ask about that?
04:37<macfreak>okay, i'll try that. Sorry :)
04:37<jm_>it's ok, i'm just telling you because you're unlikely to get help for it here
04:37<twb>Yeah it is a BMC. -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_AMT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseboard_management_controller
04:38<twb>macfreak: all BMCs are horrible, so get a stiff drink in you before you keep trying. Other than that, I can't help much.
04:39<macfreak>twb: What's a BMC ?
04:40<macfreak>like, it should be a controller built in the mainboard
04:40<macfreak>but why is it horrible ?
04:40<jm_>I was going to work on that AMT thing too (integration with our product), but after writing some minor investigation report, luckily everyone forgot about it :)
04:40<twb>A crappy, insecure linux installed on a chip on the motherboard, so that you can fiddle with the BIOS settings and VNC into the system even when it's buggered.
04:41<twb>And it's horrible because 1) it's enterprise; and 2) it's built by hardware vendors.
04:41<macfreak>okay, I get it ..
04:41<macfreak>but for me, every time I'll need to service the machine, I'll be driving like 2x400 kms
04:42<macfreak>so trying to save some time here..
04:42<twb>Not arguing they're useless. Just saying they're horrible.
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04:42<macfreak>not very successful though
04:42<macfreak>ha ha
04:43<twb>Much nicer if you can turn everything into a VM, then your "BMC" is just SSHing to the host OS and doing e.g. "virsh console"
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04:50<macfreak>cool - i'll remember that
04:51<macfreak>just haven't tried much virtualization in ubuntu
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04:51<macfreak>or debian
04:51<macfreak>:)
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05:00<twb>macfreak: heh, busted? ;-)
05:01<macfreak>it's the same anyway :P
05:02<twb>Well I happened to hear this morning that they're doing apparmor/LXC integration magic, whereas Debian doesn't turn on apparmor by default...
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05:04<macfreak>aparmor is a good thing ?
05:05<macfreak>twb: you make it sound like it's not the best thing in the world
05:05<jm_>depends who you ask I guess
05:05<twb>It's differently bad
05:05<twb>I only know because it blew my foot off for half an hour this morning
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07:24<nardev>Hey guys, is there a way to connect/execute powershell command remotely from bash?
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07:26<jonadab>nardev: the usual approach to remote command execution is via ssh.
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07:27<nardev>jonadab but powershell is in windows
07:28<jonadab>!windows
07:28<dpkg>"PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work." Support for Microsoft Windows operating systems is available in ##windows on irc.freenode.net.
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07:29<jonadab>nardev: With that said, there are two major options: install an ssh server on Windows, or connect some other way, e.g., rdesktop.
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07:30<jonadab>The former is almost certainly the better option if "remote" means "not on the same LAN", because rdesktop is way more bandwidth-intensive than ssh.
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07:31<nardev>jonadab :D i need it to be automatic execution :) + I don't have access to server other than via Powershell because it's Office365 shell
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07:32<jonadab>Wait, does Windows Powershell provide a remotely-accessible service? That would be news to me.
07:33<jonadab>I generally try to keep Microsoft stuff as far away from my servers as possible.
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07:35<nardev>jonadab, yes, Office365 online, has Powershell access open.. i need that to automatize user create, etc from my php/linux informational system
07:36<babilen>nardev: You could also look into orchestration/configuration management frameworks that support Windows such as salt, ...
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07:38<jonadab>nardev: I think I'm out of my depth on this one, but obvious questions include things like "what protocol is this online Powershell access based on" and "what kind of software is normally used to connect to it"?
07:38<nardev>babilen, hmm could you give me more input?
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07:38<nardev>i can install anything i need in my server just i need to know what :D
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07:39*jonadab refrains from telling nardev to install Debian on the server.
07:39<babilen>nardev: http://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/installation/windows.html + http://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/ref/modules/all/salt.modules.win_useradd.html#module-salt.modules.win_useradd
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07:41<babilen>nardev: I have no experience with managing MS Windows minions with salt, but it works nice with Linux and it would probably make a lot of your "manage remote boxes" tasks a lot easier in the long run.
07:41<nardev>jonadab, i use Debian and only Debian for years :P just i have an issue that my smart ass admin made.. sine he is not capable to maintain proper postfix server he pushe the company into Office365+Outlook shit
07:41<babilen>nardev: Feel free to join #salt on irc.freenode.net if you want to discuss that further. I know that it is not exactly what you've been looking for, but you should look into software like that.
07:42<nardev>babilen, thank you, i never heard for salt, i'm gonna explore it more now...
07:42<nardev>babilen, if it can help me with my issues it's what i need ....
07:44<babilen>nardev: It essentially allows you to write recipes such as "Package FOO is installed, user ABC with password CDB has been created, ..." and roll them out on other boxes. But lets continue this in #salt on Freenode if you are interested to learn more
07:44<nardev>babilen, thank you
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09:24<laflamme>hi! is anybody here who could help me with a laptop linux question?
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09:27<xiqsjvfy>!ask
09:27<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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09:51<dan_>is there a way to change the resolution of the non-graphical environment in wheezy if i never installed a window manager? im not sure where in the system i should be looking if there is
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09:58<nibbles>try this https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting
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10:01<nibbles>or rather read this http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/431181
10:01<nibbles>you sort of need to tell the kernel at boottime to set a specific resolution
10:02<dan_>so i should have KMS enabled already since i'm using an nvidia gpu running the nouveau driver
10:02<nibbles>yeah I would think so
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10:03<dan_>i basically took a netinstall iso, then when it came to the tasks list i unmarked everything lol
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10:03<dan_>trying to learn things as i go, manually somewhat
10:03<nibbles>the same as I did
10:03<nibbles>:)
10:03<nibbles>is the problem that you get a black screen or just high resolution?
10:04<dan_>just that i wanted to see more information from the terminal screen i see
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10:04<dan_>im on an lcd monitor capable of hd resolutions but i'm pretty sure i'm in 800x600 or something at the moment
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10:04<nibbles>ok. then I think the way to go is to edit /etc/default/grub
10:05<nibbles>and run update-grub after
10:05<nibbles>aka read the second link and then edit the file then run update
10:05<nibbles>reboot
10:05<nibbles>be happy :)
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10:06<dan_>cool checking out the second link, thanks for the info
10:06<nibbles>np
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10:12<dan_>sort of ironic the person sending the question on the second link is also named daniel lol
10:12<dan_>i swear it wasn't me :P
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10:50<snake>hello
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11:06<fanto666>hello. My CD-ROM does not open after use (e.g. by mplayer). This happens since wheezy... is there something broken here?
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11:08<fanto666>the eject button does not work until I execute any program that touches the CD device
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11:14<jonadab>Ok, this is weird: after a series of apt-get remove followed by apt-get install commands, now when I log in, the output of set | grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH is empty (no lines).
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11:14<jonadab>I believe this may explain why I am having trouble running programs that depend on libraries, hah.
11:15<fanto666>I also don't have the LD_LIBRARY_PATH set
11:15<jonadab>What *normally* sets LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and how does it decide how to set it?
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11:15<themill>it shouldn't be set normally
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11:15<fanto666>maybe you (or someone) in the past?
11:15<jonadab>themill: Oh, really? Huh.
11:16<fanto666>if you haven't remove --purge, then even config files should stay the same
11:16<jonadab>When I google the specific problems I'm having, every single result says something about LD_LIBRARY_CONFIG needing to be set.
11:16<fanto666>jonadab only some 3rd party programs need it
11:17<fanto666>and many of them have scripts that set LD_LIBRARY_PATH before executing them
11:17<jonadab>Third-party programs like synaptic and gimp?
11:17<fanto666>third-party like those not installed from debian source
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11:17<jonadab>The specific error I'm getting when I try to start gimp is Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "nodoka",
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11:19<fanto666>that doesn't seem related to LD_LIBRARY_PATH
11:19<fanto666>install the gtk2-engines-nodoka package
11:19<jonadab>fanto666: Yeah, I did that, though.
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11:20<jonadab>Let me --purge remove it and try again...
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11:21<jonadab>Hmm... Maybe I need to --purge remove GTK 2 itself. That would kind of make sense, actually...
11:21<fanto666>I don't think so
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11:21<fanto666>as themill said, you should not need LD_LIBRARY_PATH Ser in your environment
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11:22<jonadab>Let me tell you how all of this transpired...
11:22<fanto666>it's a hack to load shared libraries from different than system directory
11:22<jonadab>The other day, in attempting to solve an unrelated problem, I compiled and installed a couple of old versions of GTK2.
11:22<jonadab>At one point, because I was not thinking clearly, I did ./configure --prefix=/usr
11:22<themill>.o0( where could it go wrong )
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11:23<jonadab>Hmm... I can't --purge remove libgtk2.0, because of an unmet dependency having to do with gcj-jre
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11:24<jonadab>Oh, wait, if I install that first, then I can. Let's try that...
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11:31<jonadab>themill: indeed. I was at the time not realizing that there would be a conflict between 2.10 and 2.whateverwheezyuses.
11:32<jonadab>But I should have known better.
11:34<jonadab>Hmm... the --purge remove of libgtk2.0 (and subsquent install) does not seem to have solved the problem.
11:34<jonadab>Any other ideas, short of a complete from-scratch reinstall of everything?
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11:37<jonadab>I suppose building gtk2 2.24.10 from source (with --prefix=/usr) might fix it, if that were possible, but it complains about GdkPixbuf being 2.14.4, when 2.21.0 is wanted.
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11:44<jonadab>Oh, wait. I can make the warning about the theme engine go away just by renaming ~/.gtkrc-2.0
11:45<jonadab>gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: gtk_orientable_get_type
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11:47<pedro>hi
11:47<pedro>this fron chile
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12:01<marc_>(debian jessie, lxde, trouble): hi guys, 15 minutes ago i switched from xfce to lxde on my netbook, purging everything xfce-related... now i can't get the fn-keys to work. does anyone know how to do that?
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12:02<MiDiDUB>marc_, #debian-next for that
12:02<marc_>thanks
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12:25<genius>hi
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12:25<genius>i don't know why, but i can't lock my screen
12:26<genius>gnome-screensaver-command -l does nothing
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12:28<jonadab>Is the screensaver process running?
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13:15<ana_>Hi guys
13:15<ana_>Is this channel only for support issues? Or small talk as well?
13:17<Kuba>ana_: /topic -> offtopic: #debian-offtopic
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13:20<fanto666>OK, I have fixed the CDROM issue by modifying 60-crom_id.rules file. Now CDROM works as before
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14:25<nickrw>is it normal for certain processes starting at boot to not include the system default locale set in /etc/default/locale
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15:13<Anony>hi all!
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15:17<Anony>what is the most simple way of using a RAID1 mirror array in debian? mdadm software raid with identical disks? do you guys know if mdadm can pair a new RAID1 with a disk in a different larger total size?
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15:18<qmr>Anony: Yes, yes.
15:18<weasel>yes we know, and yes it can.
15:18<Anony>cool!
15:18<Anony>thanks alot. ill start reading up on that solution then :)
15:19*weasel hugs sw-raid
15:19<ncl>If I wanted to change a username, I could just edit /etc/passwd /etc/shadow and /etc/group and change the old one for the new one right?
15:19<centrx>ncl, It is safer to use vipw and vigr
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15:19<centrx>ncl, Use those exclusively. They will allow editing in temp files, then swap the files safely
15:20<centrx>ncl, Otherwise, other users, or packages on your system, may access an invalid file and break
15:20<weasel>.oO( or use vigor! )
15:20<ncl>ah ok, but beside that, anything else?
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15:20<weasel>if you find yourself editing them, you probably either did something wrong or are about to
15:20<ncl>I could move the /home too and adjust that in passwd, but I think it'd work fine without that even
15:20<ncl>weasel: I've successfully edited /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow before
15:21<weasel>but they can be edited.
15:21<ncl>and their copies that end with a dash
15:21<weasel>so have I. but if you have to ask..
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17:35<av0ch>Hey Guys!
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17:36<acald3ron>av0ch, hello !
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17:38<horux>help ?
17:38<qmr>... ask your question first ?
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17:40<horux>Wine 1.7 is almost impossible to install the wheezy then installed by PlayOnLinux, only when I install an application by PlayOnLinux it tries to download or 1.1, or 1.4, and I can not find the wine 1.7 by Terminal by winecfg, wine 1.7 etc., know where to install it, and another, use amd64 as use wine? he needs what version?
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17:41<subzero> holy shit, check out http://blackhat.enterprises/index.html
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17:41<lolo> holy shit, check out http://blackhat.enterprises/index.html
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17:42<horux>this link is not for me?
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17:46<thatguychuck>Play on linux installs it's own wine versions to .playonlinux in the home directory.
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17:47<horux>exactly, how do I it does not try to download an older version when trying to install applications on it?
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17:47<horux>use and what version? I use amd64, have to use wine32, or 64?
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17:49<thatguychuck>If you dig into the play on linux configuration you should be able to select what wine version to use.
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17:49<horux>?
17:50<horux>restarted my modem, say something? Thank you.
17:50<paulogualter>\list
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17:53<horux>ok, i did not then go to next, what's lighter, chrome or chromium?
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17:57<horux>chrome p, was running through a heavy dual core 2.8 with 4gb ram, modest setup I know, so I installed flashplayer nonfree chromium and now I can run the player from youtube, others do not.
17:58<retrospectacus>horux: they are the same, except chrome is made by Google and includes user-tracking functions, so it is probably "heavier". Also chromium is in Debian while chrome is not
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17:59<SamB>and chrome comes with flash and a PDF reader
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17:59<SamB>maybe more
18:00<SamB>but if you installed the, uh, ... what's that silly plugin API called again?
18:01<thatguychuck>Pepper?
18:01<MrFrood>retrospectacus: as I understand it chrome also has a built in flash player
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18:02<retrospectacus>right, so is further "heavier". I haven't tried chrome, only Chromium which is great for me
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18:04<MrFrood>retrospectacus: not saying either is better, just you were listing the differances
18:04*MrFrood hugs iceweasel
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18:10<daemonkeeper>wut? Iceweasel? What's wrong with you?
18:10<daemonkeeper>You dare not to use links?
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18:11<ncl>no, use wget and browse the html in emacs
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18:12<SamB>ncl: why not use one of the emacs-based browsers?
18:13<SamB>or you could just browse-url-emacs to open it straight in emacs, without even using wget
18:13<centrx>Typical emacs user: http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/029/8/3/emacs_user_at_work_by_earlcolour-d38aj2x.jpg
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18:34<G-Farkas>Hi, I'm trying to connect to internet from home throught a proxy from my institute. I've already did somethig similar, just with "ssh -D PORT user@institute_ip", Now I need to do this from an specif PC, that doen't use standard ssh port. The following doent work "ssh -p nonstandarport -D PORT user@institute_ip"? How can I do this? Thanks
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18:42<horux>then the chromium felt a little lighter, I just can not open a player, youtube movie site, can usually not another player, how do I fix?
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18:49<G-Farkas>what?
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18:54<retrospectacus>G-Farkas: that looks right. What's the error?
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18:55<G-Farkas>retrospectacus, I just get it work with the same command. The problem is that I takes long time to ask for the password. Many many seconds, I tried 3 times and was the same. Once conected works very good. What can be happening?
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18:58<retrospectacus>probably the server looking up the client DNS name for the log.
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19:07<horux>open youtube, movies on sites with flash, but one player can not open.
19:09<MrFrood>horux: https://www.youtube.com/html5
19:09<horux>yes it is compatible ..
19:10<horux>option any more?
19:10<horux>http://bobagento.com/golfinho-tocando-uma-com-o-auxilio-de-um-peixe-morto/
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19:10<horux>horrible video could open the chrome, the chromium can not excuse the ridiculous video auhua
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19:14<G-Farkas>retrospectacus, I don't understand
19:15<horux>MrFrood ?
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19:16<MrFrood>horux: using youtubes html5 mode may fix some of your issues
19:17<horux>I'm already using and not resolved
19:18<horux>and the wine, which is in .playonlinux / wine / wine 1.7 amd64/lib/wine not wheel, nor the 32-bit
19:21<MrFrood>horux: try installing "gecko-mediaplayer" - may help/may not but can't really hurt
19:24<horux>failed and yet installed mplayer have any other tips?
19:24<retrospectacus>G-Farkas: then don't worry, it works
19:25<horux>and wine?
19:25<MrFrood>horux: I've no idea how wine could help
19:25<G-Farkas>retrospectacus, I want to understand
19:26<horux>ok, and chromium? if not he knows how to install the cablecrypt or similar?
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19:26<G-Farkas>retrospectacus, More than I need the conection right now, my country had not pay for many suscription to journals so I can get to much from the proxy :S
19:29<retrospectacus>G-Farkas: I don't know what you're asking me. Does your proxy work or not?
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19:30<G-Farkas>retrospectacus, Yes the proxy works. I'm asking you what you mean for: "probably the server looking up the client DNS name for the log. "
19:31<retrospectacus>ssh server keeps a log of connections. When you connect it writes to the log. In the log line there goes a Name as well as IP. The server looks up the name using DNS. DNS can be slow.
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19:34<G-Farkas>thanks retrospectacus :)
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19:36<horux>only help me in chromium so that someone can be? or chromium on freenode in # support.
19:37<retrospectacus>horux: what is your native language?
19:37<horux>pt-brt
19:37<horux>pt-br
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19:38<horux>debian-br nobody knows also help.
19:38<retrospectacus>I'd like to help but I cannot understand your problem
19:40<horux>I can not open a player, which I gave you the link.
19:40<horux>i which
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21:23<h7251>Hi. Is it expected behavior that a /boot/config cannot readily be used to configure the source package that was used to produce the kernel image?
21:26<sney>no. if /boot/config-`uname -r` isn't sufficient to rebuild the kernel source, you probably have the wrong kernel source
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21:27<h7251>sney: I got the kernel source from the debian repositories (i.e., apt-get source linux-image-2.6.32-5-4kc-malta)
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21:28<sney>usually it's just 'apt-get source linux' but that should work too
21:28<sney>are you on squeeze?
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21:28<h7251>and uname -a tells me:
21:28<h7251>2.6.32-5-4kc-malta
21:28<h7251>yes I need a 2.6 kernel :-/
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21:29<sney>so, what result are you getting from trying to use the config from /boot/?
21:29<h7251>it's complaining about configuration options that are not set
21:30<h7251>but you know what, it's probably my fault cross compiling
21:30<h7251>I'll have to check again in qemu
21:30<sney>yeah, cross compilers do change things
21:30<h7251>the odd thing though was that it was complaining about unset configuration options
21:31<h7251>I guess the cross compiler should not have an effect that early in the kernel build process
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21:51<horux>can someone help me understand this link? http://forum.stmlabs.com/showthread.php?tid=8207
21:51<h7251>sney: so I just tried running make in qemu with .config copied from /boot/config-`uname -r`, and the behavior is the same
21:51<h7251>it complains about: Group CPU scheduler (GROUP_SCHED) [N/y/?] (NEW)
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22:08<Prog>Sorry got kicked
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22:09<Prog>I downloaded rubybook from synaptic but I don't know how to access it anyone know how
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22:13<Rip>Hello
22:14<Rip>I think I might have locked my HD
22:14<Rip>One or more block devices are holding /dev/dm-0
22:14<Rip>Any ideas?
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22:42<Prog>I downloaded rubybook from the synaptic package manager and I was wondering how I access rubybook so that I can read it?
22:43<themill>Prog: documentation is normally installed in /usr/share/doc/$package -- either just go there and see what you find or look at the contents of the package (dpkg -L packagename).
22:47<Prog>Thank you
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22:50<Prog>Themill would you happen to know of a c programming manual that I can download from the linux repository or do you think there is one. I am new to linux and I the the repo is cool
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22:50<Prog>Never seen anything like it before
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22:54<SamB>Prog: not heard of anything like that, I'd suggest just buying a copy of K&R ...
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22:57<ncl>just get a few chapters into K&R and then learn pointers and a better writing style
22:58<Prog>Ok thank you so much for you help
22:59<ncl>parts of K&R at this point are mostly things you can do in C but shouldn't really as a good practice I guess
23:00<Prog>And I have one last question. I have read that 95% of threats on the net cannot infect linux. But let's say you run across that 5% how to you check for that I have not seen any antivirus for debian wheezy
23:00<Prog>Just use rkhunter or chkrootkit?
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23:01<sney>clamav is an antivirus program that's available for wheezy
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23:01<sney>but it's true that linux viruses are extremely rare. an antivirus is still a good idea if you are hosting windows services, though.
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23:02<David_>alright tried to install proprietary nvidia drivers, failed at that, purged nvidia*, reboot and i'm only given a console, try to start kde from there and get the error "unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11
23:03<sney>well, X is probably failing to start
23:03<David_>turns out i misspelled "identifier" in the config file
23:03<David_>;P{
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23:07<Prog>Sney but didn't clamav only scan for windows threats
23:07<Prog>But say I wasn'ted to check for linux threats how would one go about that. And that one being new to linux
23:07<sney>it scans for whatever is in the definitions. if there was ever a linux virus in the wild, it would scan for those too
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23:07<sney>debsums is a good way to check if your own system is compromised
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23:08<Prog>Sney oh ok I didn't know that
23:08<sney>and also just read everything you can about security, and understand the programs you have running that are visible to the network
23:08<sney>!hardening
23:08<dpkg>To secure and harden a Debian GNU/Linux system, ask me about <securing debian> and <security>. See also <security backports>, <tracker of doom>, <d:sbd>, <grsecurity>, <exec shield>.
23:08<Prog>Sney debsums?
23:08<sney>,v debsums
23:08<judd>Package: debsums on i386 -- squeeze: 2.0.48+nmu3; squeeze-backports: 2.0.51~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.0.52; jessie: 2.0.52+nmu1; sid: 2.0.52+nmu1
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23:08<sney>it's a program you install, it has checksums of everything installed through apt
23:08<Prog>Sney I installed harden
23:09<sney>so if something is modified it won't match the checksum
23:09<Prog>How do you run it?
23:09<Prog>The v debsums you said a moment ago?
23:11<sney>you install it from apt, like 'apt-get install debsums', and then you do 'man debsums' to learn how to use it.
23:11<sney>!tell Prog about man
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