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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-05-14

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00:28<sleser>hi
00:29<sleser>can i get help on the sound isue . trying to aply to my soundcard after reboot . it keeps changing
00:29<sleser>is there a solution
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00:31<hugg>are you using pulseaudio? you can a config file in your home directory... or use pavucontrol and paprefs
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00:32<sleser>how ?
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00:34<nevyn>sigh
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00:34<nevyn>what keeps changing?
00:34<nevyn>card index?
00:34<sleser>well it showing me 2 . cards .
00:34<sleser>id like to remove the other one sins it keeps changing
00:34<sleser>to the one whitch no work
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00:35<nevyn>please pastebin the output from cat /proc/asound/cards
00:35<nevyn>!paste
00:35<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
00:36<sleser>http://pastebin.com/M4F3fCLe
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00:37<sleser>i recently instaled a new video card. i think that 2nd sound card is built in to the video card. but im not using sound from there
00:37<sleser>id like to use the sb xfi card for sound
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00:38<sleser>or els i have no clue what t hat other . drive in the sound aria is .
00:39<nevyn>sleser: in /etc/modules.d/alsa-base.conf duplicate the options line for any of the cards that end with -2
00:39<nevyn>this prevents the driver ever aquiring index0
00:39<nevyn>so it's something like
00:40<nevyn>options intel-hda index=-2
00:40<hugg>nevyn: that will hurt sleser's head. why not just select the default sink in the pulseaudio config????
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00:40<nevyn>but there should be examples in there for usb
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00:40<jm_>your SB card has index 0 already, are you saying it's still not being used?
00:40<nevyn>pa isn't default in debian
00:41<nevyn>14:34 < sleser> id like to remove the other one sins it keeps changing
00:41<sleser>sound card is beeing used . but sins having 2 cards it sounds like crap and cracles
00:41<sleser>now when i go manyaly select again xfi . instead the one it switch to aply exit reboot
00:41<hugg>nevyn: ok, apologies.
00:41<sleser>come back in changes again
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00:42<sleser>how do i get in to the pulse audio config ?
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00:43<nevyn>so you could blacklist the intel_hda driver
00:43<nevyn>you're screwed if you ever want to use hdmi audio but.. meh
00:43<sleser>i dont wana use the hdmi sound . but i just wana use its video
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00:43<sleser>sins its integrated . video and sound together in one card
00:44<jm_>then do what nevyn has told you to do
00:44<jm_># cat /etc/modprobe.d/z99_local.conf
00:44<jm_>options snd-hda-intel index=-6
00:44<jm_>that's what I use
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00:45<sleser>how do i get in to the /etc/modules.d/alsa-base.conf d
00:47<nevyn>that'll work.
00:47<nevyn>I think he actually wants to blacklist snd-hda-intel tho by the sounds of it.
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00:48<sleser>i just need to use the xfi . and for it to remember when i aply to it
00:49<sleser>i wonder if i can disable the sound in bios
00:49<nevyn>sleser: blacklist the module
00:49<sleser>whats the comand for it
00:50<nevyn>!blacklist
00:50<dpkg>To blacklist a Linux kernel module, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting
00:50<nevyn>I <3 dpkg sometimes
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00:51<sleser>i still dont understand
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01:02<nevyn>make a file.
01:03<nevyn>sigh as root run
01:03<nevyn>echo "blacklist snd-hda-intel" > /etc/modprobe.d/z99blacklisthda.conf
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01:06<nevyn>sleser: ^^
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01:22<sleser>now the sound icon next to where the clock shows on the panel is missing
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01:23<sleser>sound works .
01:23<sleser>having the icon back would be cool
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01:45<yoshi435>hi
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01:48<masocad>bismillah...
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03:19<temporary_question>so, i want to downgrade from testing to stable (so i can get faster security updates and less bugs). i've changed my /etc/apt/sources.list to use stable, as well as creating and changing /etc/apt/preferences (i was following a guide that says to do this). however, a majority of packages on this installation of debian have been installed from testing, will this cause any problems? and also, is that all i need to do, or is there more to do?
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03:21<jm_>temporary_question: problems no, lack of updates yes + downgrades are not supported
03:22<temporary_question>lack of updates? how so? and what do you mean they aren't support?
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03:24<jm_>because versions in testing are newer so they don't get installed
03:24<jm_>!downgrade
03:24<dpkg>Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>.
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03:26<temporary_question>hmm, so there's no way to switch back to stable without reinstalling?
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03:27<jm_>there is, you have to wait until testing is frozen and then released as stable, at that point you should be back on stable
03:27<jm_>it's obviously doable before too, but you'll have to manually downgrade packages and fix things
03:28<temporary_question>ah.
03:28<temporary_question>about how often does testing get frozen and released as stable?
03:29<jm_>https://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html
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03:43<zw>Hi.
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03:44<zw>I have a question about apt-get update / apt-get upgrade. Can I assume that every exit code > 0 is a problem ?
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03:45<themill>yes, although exit 0 can still happen in some error conditions
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05:37<aidalgol>Where does openssh-server log messages to?
05:38<aidalgol>All I can find from sshd in /var/log is in /var/log/auth
05:40<likevinyl>morning 4 all \m/ (Argentina)
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05:42<jm_>aidalgol: auth.log by default
05:42<aidalgol>OK, so it is just there.
05:42<aidalgol>thanks
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05:50<bird>how would I go on switching from the proprietary AMD Catalyst 13.12 from the repos to the AMD Catalyst 14.4 on their website?
05:51<bird>I'm using an AMD HD7970 without open-source driver support in Wheezy, but it requires me to uninstall the old driver and reboot before installing the new one
05:51<jm_>you'd have to follow their installation instructions, but keep in mind this is not supported here
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05:57<babilen>dpkg: tell bird about fglrx
05:57<babilen>bird: Why do you want to switch?
05:57*babilen just realised you want to switch into the "bad" direction
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05:59<bird>because the 14.10 has superior performance and comes with the CCC, which I guess I'd need to properly configure my multi-monitor environment with the proprietary driver
06:04<bird>alternatively, is there a way to get radeonsi working on stable? I have kernel 3.13 from backports already
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06:05<towo^work>bird, no
06:06<towo^work>radeonsi needs glamor, which is not in debian at all
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06:07<babilen>bird: That version is in jessie/sid so you could either backport it yourself or consider tracking testing/unstable (or even a mix)
06:07<babilen>judd: v fglrx-driver
06:07<judd>Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3squeeze1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-6+point-3; wheezy-backports/non-free: 1:13.12-4~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 1:14.4-2; sid/non-free: 1:14.4-2
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07:26<bird>yeh babilen, just messed the system up again because of that driver; I guess I'll need to go with testing for now and will switch back to stable when jessie is done
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07:31<administrator>is there a way to install the cinnamon desktop in debian?
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07:33<jm_>administrator: it's available in unstable
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07:35<administrator>and* unstable?
07:36<babilen>administrator: What do you mean?
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11:55<adminewb>I'm wrapping up a fresh install of wheezy 7.5, and have some concern about how to install grub2: there's a partition of size ~1Mb, on a GPT disk starting at sector 34, type BIOS_Boot, referred to as /dev/sdb1; would I install grub there or /dev/sdb? How would I confirm it's big enough? Would grub installer clobber the partition table if writing to /dev/sdb? Does bootable flag have any...
11:55<adminewb>...meaning on GPT volumes?
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12:01<adminewb>rather, would it clobber a partition table writing to /dev/sdb... there is one at the end of a GPT disk too
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12:12<jla>How can I tell if my system is using systemd or sysvinit? I have packages with both names installed.
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12:14<ncl>jla: I asked that yesterday and was told `dpkg -S /sbin/init` should show it
12:14<babilen>Not necessarily
12:14<babilen>I mean something like "ps -up1" could be used.
12:15<ncl>yeah, there could be a difference between what's installed and what's running
12:15<babilen>or "cat /proc/1/cmdline" or ...
12:16<jla>so if you're using systemd the root process is called systemd and not init?
12:16<babilen>ncl: You could also switch to systemd by editing the kernel command line and by adding "init=/bin/systemd" -- the "dpkg -S /sbin/init" essentially only checks if that file comes from systemd-sysv and there are better ways to check if a package is installed
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12:17<babilen>jla: Not necessarily, if you install systemd-sysv /sbin/init is taken over and a symlink to /lib/systemd/systemd
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12:18<jla>Wouldn't it still be init in ps and cmdline in those cases?
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12:19<babilen>no
12:19<jla>my /sbin/init is from sysvinit and it's an ELF 32 bit, not a sym link
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12:23<babilen>And PID 1?
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12:41<jla>babilen: also init, sorry for the slow response
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12:43<babilen>jla: No problem, IRC can cope perfectly with higher latencies
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12:49<jla>I've got an old Debian 7.0 VM that I've just updated and will use to test between the two with. I'm going to try just installing systemd first and doing boot-time switching. Is systemd-sysv installed by default on new 7.0 installs?
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12:51<petn-randall>jla: wheezy ships with sysv init by default, and systemd is only packaged there as a tech preview. I'd say it's far from useable in wheezy.
12:52<jla>petn-randall: ah, ty. I must have read too much in the things I've been reading :)
12:52<ncl>systemd will only be default in jessie+ right?
12:52<petn-randall>Yes, systemd will very likely be the default in jessie.
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13:23<sha1un>hey all. is it possible to install in debian two packages that provide the same feature. Some packages de-install other packages if they provide the same thing. is there anyway to override this behaviour ( I appreciate that in 99% of cases this behaviour is correct).
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13:26<SamB>sha1un: not if they install the same binary, no
13:26<SamB>sha1un: which packages are you thinking of?
13:26<sha1un>SamB: racoon and openswan. you install one the other is removed.
13:26<sha1un>what say im in a situation where i want both....?
13:27<sha1un>I wasn't aware that more than one package contained the SAME binary. would kinda defeat the dependency mech.
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13:28<SamB>sha1un: they both Provides: and Conflicts: with ike-server
13:28<sha1un>SamB: yup. one has racoon as the ike-server one has pluto as the ike-server. but i might want to run one ike-server on one NIC and another on another NIC.
13:29<sha1un>say i'm migrating from racoon to openswan ;-) on the same box
13:29<sha1un>is this kinda scenario not supported by Debian?
13:29<lucas_>hi there, i got a problem on debian 7.5.. my wifi keep going down for no reason
13:29<lucas_>i already turned off the power manegement
13:30<SamB>I don't really know what ike-servers are, but it's possibly you could get around this by building one of the programs from source and installing in /opt
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13:30<sha1un>SamB: i thought about that. or building my own package and changing the Provides: nd Conflicts: to NOT provide NOR conflict ;-) feels like a hack. wondered if there was a more 'robust' way.
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13:31<sha1un>SamB: your idea is a good one. not thought of that.
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13:32<sha1un>i guess you get the same problem if you install two programs that install Provides: Mail server ? like co-existing exim and sendmail
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13:35<retrospectacus>you can try e.g. "apt-get install openswan; apt-get download racoon; dpkg --force-conflicts -i racoon.deb "
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13:36<halimou>hello
13:36<retrospectacus>halimou: hi
13:37<halimou>in newbie in this room
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13:37<retrospectacus>halimou: do you have a Debian support question? If so just ask.
13:38<halimou>i want to be developper debian
13:38<halimou>debian developper
13:38<sha1un>retrospectacus: dpkg also lets you edit various status flags right? might be able to remove Provides; or Conflicts: by editing package. thanks for your idea.
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13:42<retrospectacus>yes, see <package recompile> and the control file
13:43<halimou>im need to maintainer debian
13:43<halimou>for hire me
13:44<halimou>aboutr the debian project
13:44<retrospectacus>halimou: https://www.debian.org/devel/
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13:45<lucas_>I need some help, i got a notebook with intel core i3, 4gb of ram running Debian 7.5 with Gnome 3, on startup the gnome enviroment gets a long time to load and I don't know why
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13:46<jeffrin>lucas_ : hello
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13:46<halimou><retrospectacus> :thank
13:46<jeffrin>lucas_ : which is your display card
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13:47<lucas_>it's a generic card.. intel HD4000
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13:48<jeffrin>lucas_ : are you using Xorg
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13:48<jeffrin>lucas_ : which kernel are you using
13:49<jeffrin>lucas_ : try dmesg and see if drm is actively enabled
13:50<jeffrin>lucas_ : uname -r for kernel version
13:50<lucas_>my kerne is 3.2.0-4-686, about xorg I don't know.. I'm really a newbie.. but I can't see xorg on current proccess
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13:50<lucas_>i'm checking drm
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13:51<jeffrin>dmesg | grep drm
13:51<lucas_> Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
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13:52<lucas_>there's others informations about drm, any in specific?
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13:53<jeffrin>when you login do you get classic gnome or gnome 3
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13:54<lucas_>gnome 3...
13:54<lucas_>it gets about 30 seconds to show entirely
13:54<lucas_>it was faster on begining
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13:56<lucas_>"MTRR allocation failed. Graphics performance may suffer."
13:56<jeffrin>anyway i think gnome 3 takes more time
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14:00<jeffrin>lucas_ : may be upgrading your kernel will help
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14:01<lucas_>well.. not seems that apt-get will handle this hahahah
14:01<lucas_>If think it will stay this way
14:04<jeffrin>lucas_ : may be KMS will help
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14:07<jeffrin>lucas_ : are you using intel driver or generic driver related
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14:12<lucas_>@jeffrin generic driver
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14:15<jeffrin>lucas_ : please try intel
14:15<nyov>hey. I just did a (kernel) package update. And I got a strange line in the grub configuration, which I'd like to trace back.
14:15<nyov>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/147b1fe5/
14:15<nyov>the line is: Couldn't find device with uuid 5IlP5d-DmhY-VVrj-TvWM-WkHD-EKR7-92i4Pa.
14:16<nyov>no what kind of UUID is that supposed to be... looks more like a software key
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14:16<jeffrin>lucas_ : what is the output for lsmod | grep drm
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14:17<nyov>could anyone help me figure out where that line comes from? postinst script or some config file?
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14:18<lucas_>drm_kms_helper 22738 1 i915
14:18<lucas_>drm 146387 5 drm_kms_helper,i915
14:18<lucas_>i2c_core 19116 6 i2c_i801,i2c_algo_bit,drm,drm_kms_helper,i915,videodev
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14:20<jeffrin>nyov : did you change your harddisk
14:20<nyov>not that i'm aware of
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14:22<nyov>i mean, the raid changed some disks possibly in between grub updates. but /boot is not on there. and why? I would think that line is not a valid UUID in any case
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14:23<lucas_>jeffrin: anything about the output?
14:23<jeffrin>lucas_ : cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
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14:26<lucas_>jeffrin: not xorg.conf in directory
14:26<lucas_>drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mai 11 20:19 app-defaults
14:26<lucas_>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15 Mai 11 20:20 default-display-manager
14:26<lucas_>drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Mai 11 20:11 fonts
14:26<lucas_>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17394 Set 29 2009 rgb.txt
14:26<lucas_>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mai 11 20:19 X -> /usr/bin/Xorg
14:26<lucas_>drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mai 11 20:19 xinit
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14:29<nyov>okay, this line is coming up in `update-grub`. looks like something from the os-probes maybe
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14:34<jeffrin>nyov : may be you have to generate a new UUID using uuidgen command
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14:35<nyov>jeffrin: no, everything is dandy. but thanks
14:36<jeffrin>nyov : :)
14:36<sleser>hi . firefox or icewesel is it the same thing ?
14:36<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell sleser about iceweasel
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14:37<nyov>well, I would remember if I ever put some string like that somewhere. but just in case, theres nothing like that uuid in /boot[/grub], /etc/default/grub, /etc/grub.d or /usr/lib/os-probes/
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14:39<jeffrin>nyov : have you got /boot/grub/grub.cfg
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14:40<nyov>yes. it's "clean"
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14:42<jack>sleser, yes is the same thing just has another name due to some debian rules on copyrights
14:42<jeffrin>sleser : may be iceweasel is fully free software
14:43<nyov>I `exit 0` /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober, and the line disappears on update-grub. thought so
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14:46<sleser>thanks
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14:46<sleser>i have another quastion like. the grub.
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14:47<sleser>im a type who likes to just push the power buton to the tower and let it auto load . instead choosing inside grube
14:47<sleser>is there way to fix thouse things make it auto ?
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14:48<devil>sleser: sure, set default and timeout
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14:48<sleser>where at
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14:49<devil>sleser: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 has lots of info on grub2
14:49<sleser>thaks
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14:50<sleser>ubuntu . adivce . will work for debian ?
14:50<sleser>advice
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14:50<devil>in this case yes
14:50<sleser>np
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14:52<babilen>sleser: Also read: info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'
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14:54<markush>Hallo, bei meinem DU in SID habe ich diese Meldung: aspell-de (20131206-3) wird eingerichtet ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/aspell-de.postinst: 58: /var/lib/dpkg/info/aspell-de.postinst: cannot create /var/lib/aspell/de.compat: Directory nonexistent
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15:00<sleser>totaly complicated to understand
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15:00<devil>markush: EN please
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15:01<cne>AU?
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15:11<ch3pa>bonjour!
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15:14<ch3pa>est ce que c'est possible d'installer wine 1.7 sur debian 7.4 ?
15:15<ch3pa>j'ai pas trouvé l'info...
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15:17<devil>!fr
15:17<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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15:17<ch3pa>oups thx devil !
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15:38<ptablas>hi there
15:38<retrospectacus>hi ptablas
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16:06<canaima>deivan
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16:07<canaima>como estas''
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16:22<zykotick9>!es
16:22<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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16:37<kingsley>A video of open source hardware running a GUI is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRr-BUbBV88
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17:21<sleser>whitch directory is xchat located ?
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17:21<retrospectacus>sleser: the xchat binary?
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17:22<sleser>i wanat to add a theme to it
17:22<somiaj>sleser: what is it you are really looking for?
17:22<sleser>i have the themes . i just need to drop it in to the directory
17:22<somiaj>sleser: usually this is done in the user $HOME dir, were the actual theme is put (maybe in $HOME/.xchat) somewhere you might have better luck asking in an xchat support channel.
17:22<somiaj>I don't use xchat so I woudln't know where it wants its themes put.
17:23<sleser>ok
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17:25<retrospectacus>wherever you got this theme, should tell you where to put it
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17:41<magyar>hi, is there a way to playback quicktime in jessie or wheezy using iceweasel?
17:42<somiaj>have you tried mozplugger, I think you can link that with say mplayer or a video player that can play the files.
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17:49<magyar>somiaj: how do I do that?
17:51<MrFrood>somiaj: magyar: take a look at the "gecko-mediaplayer" package
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18:17<sleser>quik quastion . instaled a new loging screen . but it wont show in the theme aria
18:18<sleser>trying to also install . a theme i have in .gz trying to open it . says invalid kmd file. its valid i use it for another linux
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19:19<sleser>can i get help changing the loging screen .
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20:20<preston>hello?
20:20<preston>I need help
20:20<preston>anyone?
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20:33<nyov>and I am so glad once again to run debian. firefox 29 is truly awful. holy f*** did they ever drop the ball on that one. but one quick downgrade later, i'm all good and happy again :)
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20:34<nyov>well, after fixing my lost addon-bar
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20:36<iwtkwtlrinidt>nyov: You don't like australis?
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20:38<nyov>that's the new theme's name right? well it's only part of the issue
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20:39<nyov>but I quit iceweasel 24, and i booted up... chrome! that was a wtf moment ;)
20:41<retrospectacus>as long as a browser shows me websites properly, I'm happy with it
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20:45<iwtkwtlrinidt>nyov: Ah well, I quite like australis compared to the older one, I'm a chrome/chromium kind of guy though.
20:46<nyov>partly it's the 'integrated' layout, doesn't go well (once again!) with my dark gtk theme. then the new theme. 'set up sync' plastered once too often, missing addonbar, start up time longer with my some 3000 tab (oops) and less responsive
20:47<nyov>what I dislike is that they take away choice once again. first the statusar, the extended ssl view in browser bar, favicons, now the addon-bar
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20:47<nyov>but you get another ugly 'set up sync!' button you can't remove
20:49<iwtkwtlrinidt>Ah, I've never used those features in firefox, don't know what you mean by the favicons though.
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20:52<nyov>iwtkwtlrinidt: can't work with chrom(ium), 100 tabs and they get so squashed together you can't read anything anymore.
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20:53<iwtkwtlrinidt>nyov: Nice monitor. 50's like the limit.
20:53<iwtkwtlrinidt>There are addons though, which help with this.
20:53<nyov>favicons were in the URL bar, still are with my addon, but for every lost feature it's another addon you have to trust and install. kind of sad
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20:53<nyov>besides it's running every tab in another thread
20:54<nyov>can't live with that :P
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21:05<bugtraq>how do i get my ip to change?
21:07<retrospectacus>bugtraq: depends if it's static or dhcp
21:07<bugtraq>dhcp
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21:07<bugtraq>i was trying to use tor but the browser never pops up for me
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21:08<retrospectacus>you can release and renew it, but it will probably stay the same
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21:09<retrospectacus>bugtraq: what is your question then?
21:10<bugtraq>you have answered it
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21:14<nyov>hahaha. amazing, my ff upgrade was actually a win.
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21:15<nyov>the only reason i did it in the first place, was because cipherfox can show full cipher-suites after ff25+
21:16<nyov>but after the downgrade, it still shows them. nice
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21:17<nyov>(which means i'll know if a connection has forward secrecy, and that my banking site doesnt.. grr)
21:18<JOEY_BATT>hi
21:19<retrospectacus>hi
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21:29<yangoogle>hello !
21:31<yangoogle>anyone here
21:31<dondelelcaro>yangoogle: yes.
21:31<dondelelcaro>yangoogle: just ask your question
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21:32<Guest10541>hello
21:32<Guest10541>quit
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21:33<yangoogle>who use loongson 8089
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21:41<retrospectacus>yangoogle: do you have a Debian question?
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21:47<peterS>retrospectacus: well, loongson is a CPU platform that runs Debian, so...maybe yes?
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21:50<sleser>quik quastion . im trying to add a shorcut icon on the menue panel . after ading it . trying to open it , and it wont open any clue ?
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22:15<yangoogle>who knows a small web browser but w3m and midori.....iceweasel is too big for my computer
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22:18<alumno>Hola
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22:20<Bietka>Hola :3
22:20<Bietka>Alguien me podría ayudar?
22:21<SamB>yangoogle: there's also elinks and w3m-emacs and "w3", also for Emacs, and I hear they added something called eww to emacs
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22:22<SamB>or if you like having no table rendering you could try lynx
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22:27<yangoogle>Thanks very much...
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22:52<anon90021>What's Iceweasel team's stance regarding DRM implementation in Firefox? Any plans to remove CDM loading mechanism from Iceweasel once it lands in stable Firefox?
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23:01<sney>anon90021: the general assumption is that even mainline firefox won't directly ship the non-free component but rather some code to download it from addons.mozilla.org or whatever. the iceweasel team will likely make a choice whether to a) make that part optional, and package it for non-free or b) leave it out altogether
23:01<zykotick9>anon90021: while i _certainly_ have no idea what the iceweasel folk will do, i'd just like to say - iceweasel is firefox, just debranded... i don't really think it's a full "fork" - so _MY_ guess is iceweasel will get it, as soon as firefox does...
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23:26<eduhschultz>Hi, I'm here for some help. I'm using debian 7.5 gnome + compiz, etc, etc and it suddenly logged out.. how can I identify the problem? thanks in advance
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23:29<mlb>eduhschultz: what suddenly logged out?
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23:29<centrx>better than suddenly logging in
23:29<mlb>i would check the syslog (/var/log/) for any clues
23:29<mlb>centrx: ;-)
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23:30<eduhschultz>Well it asked for credentials
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23:30<eduhschultz>Screen login at startup, gdm i think
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23:31<eduhschultz>mlb, which log should I check?
23:32<anth__>I'm using rsync to copy media from one local drive to another copying at a slow ~20MB/s. What is causing it to be so slow
23:32<mlb>basically I would check the syslog
23:32<somiaj>eduhschultz: where did you get this compiz package?
23:32<somiaj>eduhschultz: I wonder if it crashed or something, it is basically a dead project and there are no packages provided in wheezy (7.5)
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23:34<eduhschultz>somiaj, I think I installed it from backports, I'm not sure.. but I didin't had this issue so far
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23:35<eduhschultz>well syslog http://paste.debian.net/99631/
23:36<somiaj>since compiz has been removed from debian and the only hit is an old package in squeeze that hasn't been matained, (:
23:36<somiaj>I'm sure you didn't get it from backports
23:36<eduhschultz>resource temporarily not available on X server
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23:37<eduhschultz>somiaj, so you're saying that isn't a good idea using compiz, don't you?
23:39<somiaj>eduhschultz: I wouldn't trust any packages for compiz on debian wheezy and would suggest if you wanted to use it you mataine your own local install compiled from source. But it is a dead project, you just won't get support for it in debian and it is my guess what could be causing strange issues.
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23:46<anth__>Would someone be able to give me some advice as to what is bottlenecking in my setup
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23:47<anth__>using rsync to transfer media. It is maxing at 25MB/s when the hdd are cabable of +100MB/s
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23:55<centrx>anth__, Must be a the bus speed or something
23:56<anth__>centrx, I just performed a dd from one drive to another with 103MB/s, it must have to do with rsync.
23:57<centrx>Well, you haven't shown us your setup so not much else to say
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