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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-05-17

---Logopened Sat May 17 00:00:10 2014
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00:07<mirrorshare>hey,
00:07<centrx>!hello
00:07<dpkg>Hi, centrx!
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00:08<mirrorshare>quick question, when i try to run my desktop, all the text seems messed up covered in orange boxes/windows make the screen completely blue.
00:08<mirrorshare>what should i do to correct this.
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00:38<Amish>Hello. I have an issue with my IP routing table and I need to correct the issue by resetting a route, but cannot find where to set the "Flags" to U for it.
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01:27<sleser>can i get help on . geting t he extentions for virtualbox 1.4
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01:37<sleser>will the extension pack virtualbox 4.1.32 work on virtualbox 4.1.10 ?
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01:38<centrx>sleser, Not the most active hour on IRC
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01:39<sleser>no pb
01:39<sleser>np
01:39<sleser>i cant find the one for 4.1.10 in oracle site
01:40<gsimmons>dpkg: vbox extpack
01:40<dpkg>An extension pack to Oracle VM VirtualBox provides it with additional functionality (e.g. USB 2.0 device support, <RDP> and <PXE> boot). These closed-source components are released under the VirtualBox PUEL and made available by Oracle: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads . For VirtualBox 4.1.18 (Debian 7 "Wheezy"): http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.18/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.1.18-78361.vbox-extpack
01:41<sleser>yeh they dont have one
01:42<gsimmons>Uh, they do; read slightly upward.
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01:47<sleser>i cant find it . there
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01:59<sleser>i think i found it . the extensionpack 4.1.10 but its for debian 7.0 . will that work for debian 7.5 ?
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02:06<gsimmons>sleser: A direct link to a compatible extension pack version was stated by the dpkg infobot in this channel 25 minutes ago. Also, Wheezy uses VirtualBox version 4.1._18_, not 4.1.10.
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02:07<sleser>oh yeh . its 18 didnt look at it good
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03:26<skribblezatcha>email
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04:05<sleser>after watching a movie for a little bit . not sure i havent timed it anyhow . the screen goes off . and in the grafical inteface at power manangment aria . i have everything chekded off . still the screen goes off . any solution ?
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04:15<planetmaker>sleser, what GUI do you use? Gnome, kde, ...?
04:15<sleser>kde
04:17<sleser>i dont ever want the screen go off . sins im a type . who not woried about power . or if i walk off and want to save . ill turn my screen off anyhow and anytime . and everytime.
04:18<sleser>and like having the screen go off . while watching a movie espesicaly after few drinks im sorry to tell u that its very anoying and im sorry to anoy u . for so many quastion for one day . just trying to set my system rite
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04:32<StyXman>I have an old laptop as home server/media center. it connects to the router via wifi. from time to time, the router resets itseft
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04:33<StyXman>the wlan interface is configured via /etc/network/interfaces, but when it loses the link during router reboot, it never reconnects. what could I use to reconnect once the network is up again?
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05:45<ixi>,v php5
05:45<judd>Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u9; jessie: 5.5.12+dfsg-1; sid: 5.5.12+dfsg-1; sid: 5.5.12+dfsg-2; experimental: 5.6.0~beta1+dfsg-2; experimental: 5.6.0~beta2+dfsg-1
05:46<ixi>has anyone installed php 5.5 on wheezy?
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05:59<nbl>Hi guys !
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05:59<spippi>hello world!
06:00<spippi>hello comunity
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06:00<nbl>I'm running on debian 7.5 wheezy and I would like to download dzen2-dbar but I can't find it on internet someone can help me ?
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06:01<ronlut>Hi all. I have a strange problem: I edit the mount options of some of my internal HDs partitions through the disks GUI in my Debian Jessie, and although I check the "mount at startup" checkbox, those partitions ask for password every time I try to mount them via nautilus (I tried restarting but still). The associated line @ /etc/fstab is: /dev/disk
06:01<ronlut>/by-uuid/16B82B56B82B3421 /mnt/16B82B56B82B3421 auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0. Can someone please point me to the problem? Thanks.
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06:02<valdyn>ronlut: users,nosuid,nodev...
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06:03<valdyn>ronlut: or if you just wanted to mount on startup, "auto,nosuid,.....
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06:04<ronlut>valdyn: I though also to add users to the line, but I thought i'm thinking wrong as the gui doesn't offer such option
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06:09<ronlut>valdyn: thanks anyway, will check this out now
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06:48<utente>i have a corrupted library: /isr/lib/libreoffice/program/libcomphelper.so: invalid ELF header. How can i know tho whom .deb it belongs to? If i do "apt-cache search libcomphelper" i get no answer.
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06:48<babilen>dpkg: tell utente -about apt-file
06:48<babilen>utente: Also "dpkg -S /isr/lib/libreoffice/program/libcomphelper.so"
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06:49<utente>ok, pet me try
06:49<babilen>utente: But that won't come up with anything sensible as /isr is, well, uncommon
06:50<utente>babilen, i did the second command and i got errors
06:50<utente>ldconfig ins not in the patrh
06:50<utente>start-stop-daemon ont in the path
06:50<devil>utente: please always pastebin complete errors, no interpretations
06:51<utente>PATH should contain /usr/local/sbion /usr(sbin and /sbin
06:51<babilen>utente: What is /isr -- Why do you have that directory?
06:51<utente>sorri, it is /usr, my typo
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06:51<babilen>utente: Can you copy and paste your command and the entire output?
06:51<babilen>brb
06:51<utente>babilen, iti is italian langiage, i translated "on the fly" for you :-)
06:52<utente>i chat not on the affected PC so i have to go un pand donw bertween 2 PCs
06:53<utente>anyway, there is no /usr/local/sbin and /usr/sbin and /sbin in PATH, that can be a problem... how to add?
06:53<utente>(i see it doing "echo $PATH")
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06:53<devil>utente: Lang=C in front of your commands will translate these to EN
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06:54<babilen>utente: Also: Are you running that command as root, with sudo or as your normal user?
06:54<babilen>And what about /isr ?
06:56<devil>babilen: typo for /usr
06:57<utente>hello?
06:57<utente>oh, for sometime i was typing but no message came there.
06:57<utente>ok back to topic.
06:58<utente>on console (into lxde) i tyipe "loffice" to stat it, but i go that error message.
06:59<utente>if i do (as user) dpkg -S .... i get reply: libreoffice-core: /usr/libreoffice/program/libcomphelper.so
06:59<utente>btw, it is a ARM board if this can help.
07:00<utente>now i istall apt-file as succested
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07:02<babilen>so, reintall libreoffice-core and you are done
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07:03<utente>babilen, oik i do it now.
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07:07<utente>babilen, YES! now loffice works!
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07:08<babilen>good
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07:08<babilen>utente: I would use smartctl to check for disk errors
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07:08<utente>weird, on this bosrd is so common to have ELD header corrupded... probably because low qualito on nand chips.
07:08<babilen>http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/6983/print
07:08<utente>let me read...
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07:09<utente>ELD=ELF
07:09<babilen>ah, no harddrive. forget that then
07:09<utente>yes
07:10<utente>it is a cubieboard... do you know it?
07:12<utente>oh, now is gnome-mplayer that doesnt work... the hell!
07:12<utente>last update make a disaster on the system :(
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07:21<babilen>rinse repeat, buy new hardware
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07:25<utente>babilen, it is to me that "rinse repeat"?
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07:27<utente>honestry, nond of cubieboard seems to be low quality, so it make sense to move on.
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07:30<Zooty>Can someone help? I can't get into a tty session and I also can not get into GNOME
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07:31<planetmaker>'get into gnome'?
07:32<utente>Zooty, do toiu mean you cant log into the initial graphical login mask?
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07:32<Zooty>I see the login screen, after I write my password I just see the desktop background and nothing else
07:33<Zooty>When I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 I just see a blinking underscore
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07:34<utente>Zooty, the same on Ctrl-alt-F2--->F6?
07:34<Zooty>Yeah, and Ctrl+Alt+F7 just takes me to the desktop background again
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07:41<ompaul>Zooty: and ctrl alt F2 ?
07:41<Zooty>Yeah, they are all the same.
07:42<ompaul>Zooty: two questions, what version of debian, what kind of graphics card, and did it work before with linux
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07:43<Zooty>Debian 7.5, HD5670 and a HD7770
07:43<ompaul>pick two of the three and then answer it and then answer the third ... oh wait
07:44<ompaul>and thirdly did it ever wrok
07:44<Zooty>Crunchbang worked, but only on one monitor
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07:45<utente>Zooty, can you log in whe you are in CRTL-ALT-F2?
07:45<Zooty>No, it's just a blinking underscore _
07:46<ompaul>so you have some video output
07:46<ompaul>well a couple of things I'd do
07:47<ompaul>Zooty: have you tried to install any ati specific drivers yet
07:47<Zooty>No I can't get into the command line
07:47<ompaul>Zooty: and this is a brand new install
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07:47<Zooty>I just installed it this morning
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07:47<ompaul>Zooty: take out one of the cards
07:48<ompaul>Zooty: then /msg dpkg ati
07:48<ompaul>work on getting one of them - see how you go
07:48<Zooty>Okay, I'll come back soon
07:48<ompaul>then think carefully about the changes to get two different cards going
07:49<ompaul>you will manage the 5670 with little issue I think
07:49<ompaul>but the other not so sure
07:49<Zooty>Okay, thanks for the help :-)
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07:49<ompaul>I must head off for a little
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07:53<rostam>hi during installation of third party kernel module, lttng, I get following error: Can't read private key. Here is the pastebin for it: http://paste.debian.net/100134/
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09:10<ompaul>rostam: this is not a generic linux channel, that is not a supported debian kernel
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09:23<FakeBoost>Is software update the same as apt-get update?
09:23<abrotman>likely
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09:25<FakeBoost>aha
09:25<FakeBoost>because i have updates available and the manager doesnt work
09:25<devil>the manager?
09:25*devil has no manager
09:25<FakeBoost>well, the app
09:25<devil>the app?
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09:26<FakeBoost>there's something that prompts when you have updates,
09:26<planetmaker>when using debian, I'd usually recommend to install the updates regularily, especially on desktops
09:26<FakeBoost>it's an icon that you open
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09:27<FakeBoost>i know that, planet, the thing is i can't get it to work
09:27<devil>well, not here
09:27<devil>FakeBoost: just use apt. always works
09:27<devil>unless you brake it :)
09:27<abrotman>break ?
09:27*abrotman ducks
09:27<devil>ups :)
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09:42<plugwash>Can anyone tell me what is wrong with
09:42<plugwash>sleep $(($RANDOM/1024)); /usr/bin/geoip-lite-update
09:42<plugwash>I get /bin/sh: 1: arithmetic expression: expecting primary: "/1024"
09:42<abrotman>you want && instead of ; perhaps ?
09:42<abrotman>oh
09:43<themill>plugwash: dash vs bash?
09:43<plugwash>themill, could well be, what I want to know is how I fix it
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09:44<abrotman>plugwash: use expr ?
09:44<themill>use bash if you use bashisms, use bash
09:44<expr>o/
09:44<themill>dash doesn't do $RANDOM
09:44*abrotman hopes that was a script for expr
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09:44<expr>abrotman: hi
09:44<abrotman>lo
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09:47<plugwash>ok next question, how do I make cron run a command with bash instead of dash?
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09:48<abrotman>plugwash: if it's such a problem, change the symlink for /bin/sh
09:49<themill>plugwash: either set SHELL as per crontab(5) or put the commands in a script with the appropriate sheban
09:49<themill>g
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09:52<plugwash>themill, thanks
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10:50<sundiata>now that an official release of lxqt has been made, are there any plans to incorporate it into the debian repositories?
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11:39<RuPeRterer>i have a intel i5 graphic is 4600 will i have to backport it or is there a new fix for this
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11:57<RuPeRterer>i had intel hd 4600 graphic is there a way to make it work other then kernel update and backports
11:57<RuPeRterer>?.
11:58<ompaul>RuPeRterer: http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=2714
11:58<ompaul>RuPeRterer: search I used was: debian intel linux 4600
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12:01<RuPeRterer>so i have to backport
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12:21<Fylar>IDENTIFY
12:21<Fylar>!identify
12:21<Fylar>nickserv identify
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12:22*sney hands Fylar a spare /
12:22<Fylar>ahh
12:22<Fylar>thanks
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13:01<ixi>what would be the most debian way to install php 5.5 on wheezy?
13:03<sney>testing chroot
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13:11<grok>will debian strip iceweasel of the drm related code to be included in firefox?
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13:25<ompaul>grok: given the proximity of the announcement to today by Mozilla, do you really think that as mozilla have not provided source for such a change others to look at that a decision can be made as to how to handle this event? You could politely let your views be known to the contacts for the package, bearing that fact in mind.
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13:28<ompaul>grok: i.e. they didn't implement, do you think people even know what it is they have to work with and how deep it would be embedded to the core of the browser thus causing at least one technical problem. If it does one could choose to simply use another browser, great thing about having multiple browsers, if you have the skill you could look at the source and try to see how the new stuff is implemented when it is implemented, having doe that publish that
13:28<ompaul>work in a community friendly way and so options increase.
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13:36<grok>ompaul: thank you for your reply.
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13:38<ompaul>grok: from this position this is the only thing that can be done.
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13:43<canaima>holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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13:43<ompaul>!es
13:43<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
13:44<leoslax>kick canaima
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13:44<canaima>nadie habla aki
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16:42<derric>Is it reasonable easy to to build yasm_1.2 on Wheezy
16:42<derric>?
16:42<devil>derric: apt-get install yasm
16:42<devil>it is in unstable
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16:43<devil>you just need to check on libc6 as dependency
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16:45<alumno>holaaa
16:45<alumno>soy nuevo
16:45<devil>!es
16:45<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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16:45<alumno>hello
16:45<derric>devil: Yeah, that's what I was worring about: Having to upgrade libc6 in order to build it.
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16:46<devil>derric: you could use pbuilder with unstable
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17:00<derric>devil: It compiles fine under Wheezy/Debian-7.1
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17:01<devil>good
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17:07<derric>devil: Now I have to figure out how to link libraries in a specific raher then system libraries folder to package build.
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17:07<derric>Um, s/ raher/folder rather/
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17:24<spippi>E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() non riuscita.
17:24<spippi>can you help me
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17:28<devil>not enough context, wrong lang
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17:38<spippi>devil?
17:40<awal>spippi, the language of this channel is english no italian. use LANG=C before console commands and your results will be in english and people can understand...
17:41<spippi>E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
17:41<spippi>E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
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17:42<spippi>help me
17:42<awal>spippi, what are you triying to do?
17:43<spippi>i send pulseaudio
17:43<spippi>in command
17:43<awal>send pulse audio?
17:43<spippi>yes
17:43<awal>launch you mean?
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17:44<awal>sent pulseaudio where? to the moon? :P
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17:44<spippi>in terminal
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17:47<spippi>what do you think the problem
17:48<awal>you want start the pulseaudio daemon?
17:49<spippi>i have a warning when shut down pc
17:49<spippi>and i don't have a icon of audio
17:49<spippi>in notification
17:49<spippi>i think that
17:49<spippi>E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
17:50<spippi>it's a problem or not
17:50<spippi>?
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17:52<hocine>hi
17:52<devil>spippi: maybe you should try the italian channel
17:52<spippi>thanks
17:52<awal>spippi, "E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed" this is the message you get when you shutdown your computer?
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17:52<spippi>no
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17:53<spippi>when i write pulseaudio in terminal
17:53<devil>spippi: does pa work?
17:53<spippi>what's pa
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17:54<devil>pulse audio
17:54<awal>spippi, ok. what say the error message when shuting down?
17:54<spippi>is warning
17:54<spippi> but i don't know more precision
17:54<devil>well, I do not understand enough of what you say to be able to help
17:54<spippi>i read user pulse audio warning
17:55<spippi>ahahahahah
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17:55<awal>something like "...per user session..."?
17:55<devil>did I say something funny?
17:55<spippi>do you think that E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed. it's a problem or not?
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17:55<henadin>hellp
17:55<spippi>yes awal
17:55<devil>henadin: ask
17:56<henadin>oops
17:56<henadin>nvm sorry
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17:56<awal>spippi, just ignore it. all people running wheezy get that warning. it's a "bug", kernel spaming. it should be "info" no "warning"
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17:57<spippi>ok
17:57<spippi>thanks awal
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17:57<spippi>and for the failed?
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18:00<awal>spippi, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=644809 The warning when shutdown/reboot/boot is not harmful . ignore it
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18:01<awal>spippi, sorry, I have no more ideas about your "...failed"
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18:04<awal>if you have pulseadio installed and use it the daemon should be started automaticaly and if you have sound so you are fine I think so
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18:07<devil>spippi: you could try: apt-get purge alsa-base alsa-utils && apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
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18:13<spippi>ok
18:13<spippi>all ok
18:13<spippi>thanks at all
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18:22<RuPeRterer>can i ask a ? about jessie in here
18:22<devil>RuPeRterer: => #debian-next
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20:34<wils>mtn
20:34<mtn>wils: hey
20:34<wils>i cheated
20:34<wils>i plugged out my 1tb hdd
20:34<wils>so i only had ssd in
20:34<wils>so it had to be sda
20:34<wils>:D
20:35<mtn>wils: yup, that would work
20:35<wils>now whats the best way to format my 1tb sdb
20:35<wils>fdisk?
20:35<wils>i need to remove all debian installation from it
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20:36<mtn>wils: that works, if you have a live disk with gparted, that is easier for most folks
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20:36<wils>i dont :/
20:36<wils>cant i just install gparted?
20:36<wils>or does it has to be live disc?
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20:36<mtn>wils: you can't format a mounted disk
20:36<wils>ahh true
20:36<wils>if i umount in first then
20:36<wils>umount /dev/sdb?
20:37<mtn>wils: you can format and work with partitions using the installer. it isn't very hard to do that way
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20:38<wils>hmm ok
20:39<wils>but i just want to wipe all data on my other hdd
20:39<wils>wouldt it be easier to just plugg it back in
20:39<wils>reboot unmount it and write a new fs on it
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20:39<mtn>wils: if you have an os on one drive, you can format another unmounted drive
20:40<wils>and witch program is best for that?
20:40<wils>fdisk or gparted
20:40<wils>to do it live on my OS
20:40<mtn>wils: they both work fine. I would use gparted
20:40<wils>ok
20:40<wils>thx mate
20:40<mtn>wils: yw
20:40<wils>ill power off and plugg the 1tb hdd in
20:41<wils>can you guide me through gparted if i dont get it
20:41<wils>only used fdisk a coiple of times
20:41<wils>couple*
20:41<mtn>wils: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
20:41<wils>thx
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20:46<wils>mtn
20:46<wils>i dont understand, now that i have reconnected 1tb hdd, and i run lsblk is stays that sda is the 1tb hdd
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20:47<wils>does it rly matter?
20:47<chealer> !enter
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20:49<mtn>wils: one, it doesn't really matter as long as you let grub handle the booting. two, which is sda is a hardware connection issue.
20:49<wils>aaha
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20:50<mtn>wils: were you using the bios boot menu to choose to boot the sdd earlier? in other words, by passing the grub menu?
20:50<wils>no not now
20:50<wils>i just booted and ssd is the first in boot menu
20:50<mtn>wils: ok, all is well now?
20:50<wils>ye i guess
20:50<mtn>wils: well, can you boot into your os?
20:50<wils>ye im in it now
20:51<wils>now i just need to format SDA
20:51<mtn>wils: sounds good to me then
20:51<wils>1tb to be nothing
20:51<wils>now it got old debian installation on it
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20:52<wils>it just says 1 operation pending
20:52<wils>gparted
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21:51<mintgreen>how to moumt /dev/sda4 ( a zfs device)?
21:52<abrotman>man monut
21:52<abrotman>man mount
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22:02<mintgreen>abrotman: sudo mount /dev/sda4 /media/mintgreen
22:02<mintgreen>mount: unknown filesystem type 'zfs_member'
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22:58<SunRaycer>is there an apt command to get a list of requested packages that have been installed (which might have in turn caused dependencies to be installed), rather than just all installed packages?
22:59<sney>there's probably a way to do it with aptitude flags but I don't remember the syntax
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23:00<themill>manually installed packages: aptitude search '~i!~M'
23:00<sney>there it is ^^
23:00<themill>(note that things installed by the installer are manually installed too)
23:01<SunRaycer>ok. must also be possible with apt-get or dpkg too, I assume (but aptitude should work fine too)
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23:01<SunRaycer>themill: sure, but the installer is going to ask for umbrella packages that intentionally have a number of dependencies
23:02<themill>SunRaycer: dpkg doesn't know this information. apt-get is not a querying interface. apt-mark should be able to do it.
23:02<SunRaycer>ah
23:02<themill>(apt-mark showmanual)
23:02<awal>try with cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ "
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23:02<themill>awal: that doesn't distinguish between manually and automatically installed.
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23:03<awal>themill, ok
23:03<sney>!uuoc
23:03<dpkg>UUOC is the Useless Use of Cat Award. Given out for years by Randal Schwartz on the newsgroup comp.unix.shell. Basically, most constructions that look like "cat filename | grep pattern" can be more easily written as "grep pattern filename". Works for grep and most other Unix utilities. Easier to type and marginally more efficient.
23:03<SunRaycer>apt-mark showmanual looks like exactly what I was thinking. :)
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23:05<themill>SunRaycer: but as I said, that output will include stuff you didn't install personally but was instead installed by d-i. Things like your bootloader, cron etc. You'd probably want to exclude all packages that are Priority required, important (and perhaps standard) from that
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23:06<SunRaycer>themill: not necessarily... but having both identified differently could be useful.
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23:07<themill>SunRaycer: if you used "standard system" in the installer, you end up with aptitude install '~prequired~pimportant~pstandard'; aptitude search patterns are really helpful here -- /msg dpkg aptitude search
23:07<themill>«aptitude search '~i!~M!~pimportant!~prequired!~pstandard'» for instance.
23:07<SunRaycer>themill: I was expecting installer initiated packages to be in that list. but now that you mention it, is there any way to only get a list of packages manually installed?
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23:08<awal>this may be helpful (?) http://serverfault.com/questions/175504/how-do-i-get-the-history-of-apt-get-install-on-unbuntu
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23:08<SunRaycer>awal: sounds like it might be...
23:09<awal>yes, might be
23:09<SunRaycer>themill: ok, so I could take the apt-mark output and subtract that aptitude search output...
23:09<awal>thta good. in this channel i learn about debian and english ;)
23:09<themill>SunRaycer: there's no need to do that -- aptitude can do it in one shot
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23:11<SunRaycer>whoa, is that *the* IPsec Paul Hoffman who asked that?
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23:12<themill>SunRaycer: «aptitude search '~i!~M!~pimportant!~prequired!~pstandard'» is the list of packages that are installed and not automatically installed and not priority (important, required, standard) -- which pretty much means everything you installed after the standard task plus kernel and bootloader.
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23:13<SunRaycer>yup, that is he.
23:15<awal>themill, me I'm interested in know all the packages I installed by my self for next future debian installation because I forget them :) which command I must run?
23:15<awal>usually I use apt
23:15<SunRaycer>that resulting list of packages looks plausible...
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23:18<themill>SunRaycer: add «--disable-columns -F%p» to just get the package list
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23:19<SunRaycer>themill: heh, would have just used awk to parse that. :)
23:19<themill>you could end up with truncated package names if you did that
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23:33<Rus>hello
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23:39<SunRaycer>ok, another trivial question... CLI side-by-side diff tool?
23:39<rryoumaa>SunRaycer: do you mean tui?
23:39<rryoumaa>i don't know a pipeable one
23:40<SunRaycer>rryoumaa: dunno, I'll have to go find out... sec...
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23:40<SunRaycer>oh, never heard of cli refered to as tui before...
23:40<rryoumaa>emacs has a few tui ones, and you can try sdiff
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23:41<rryoumaa>hmm, sdiff i guess is wrong
23:41<SunRaycer>sdiff looks promising!
23:43<abrotman>diff can do it also
23:43<Guest10889>anyone knows how to reduce the blurryish display?
23:43<Guest10889>is it a misconfigured vid card (intel)
23:44<Guest10889>noticable blur on xfce4 debian compared to win7 host
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23:50<SunRaycer>Guest10889: probably mis-matched output resolution of your video card from native screen resolution. this might be because you are using the VESA driver instead of a native one.
23:50<SunRaycer>Guest10889: this happenned to me recently because of missing firmware.
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23:51<SunRaycer>Guest10889: if that is the case, you may find it in one of: firmware-linux
23:51<SunRaycer>firmware-linux-free
23:51<SunRaycer>firmware-linux-nonfree
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23:52<Guest10889>SunRaycer: thanks will try to update it.
23:52<Guest10889>tho i believe i apt-get install firmware-linux already
23:53<SunRaycer>Guest10889: this should tell you what got loaded, although there is probably an easier way to find out: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
23:53<Guest10889>tho native screen resolution is correct. its 1366x768
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