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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-05-20

---Logopened Tue May 20 00:00:24 2014
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00:05<John[Lisbeth]>Is this really the main debian irc? it's so quiet
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00:06<retrospectacus>John[Lisbeth]: coz Debian is so great, no problems anywhere
00:06<John[Lisbeth]>LOL
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01:47<edrz>John[Lisbeth]: shh. debian is sleeping right now.
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01:52<John[Lisbeth]>lol
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03:13<eng>hii
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03:22<petn-randall>edrz, John[Lisbeth], we don't sleep, we wait.
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03:56<John[Lisbeth]>petn-randall: I've heard taht quote somewhere before
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05:11<petn-randall>John[Lisbeth]: Léon: The Professional?
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05:28<bullgard4>'~# LANG=C apt-cache show xtimer; N: Unable to locate package xtimer; E: No packages found.' <-- What alernatives can you recommend?
05:28<bullgard4>+t
05:29<petn-randall>bullgard4: What does it do?
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05:32<bullgard4>peterS: I'd appreciate using a graphical timer program except for xfce4-timer-plugin.
05:32<John[Lisbeth]>petn-randall: ?
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05:42<petn-randall>John[Lisbeth]: That quote is probably from Léon: The Professional.
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05:43<John[Lisbeth]>petn-randall: Oh I see. I never knew. My dad used to say that to me when I was little.
05:43<petn-randall>John[Lisbeth]: That's scary ... :)
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05:46<xormor>!smart questions
05:46<xormor>!ask smart questions
05:46<dpkg>Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with helpers. Also ask me about <reportbug>.
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05:53<xormor_>should I code or do administration with my Debian GNU/Linux system? I have run out of ideas.
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05:55<John[Lisbeth]>xormor: http://imgur.com/3Rixsj2
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05:57<xormor>John[Lisbeth], what kind of program should I code? I would prefer C++, but I could do C as well.
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05:57<John[Lisbeth]>xormor: if you really want something to do go do kernel development
05:58<John[Lisbeth]>It's the best way to grow chesthair.
05:58<xormor>John[Lisbeth], ok ;)
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06:01<xormor>John[Lisbeth], my linguistic IQ is 120 or 130, mathematical is 95. the average of all the IQ numbers is 107 for me.
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06:02<John[Lisbeth]>xormor: you can always get som certifications and apply to someplace like redhat
06:02<John[Lisbeth]>but I am sleeping, goodnight
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06:10<anony>hi all
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06:50<anony>do any of u guys happen to know if there will be any noticeable inprovement in gpu performance on a Quadro 1500 on debian if i install the legacy drivers?
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06:50<anony>im thinking vesa will probably be enough, ill surf the webs watch a couple of clips and such. no opengl or such applications
06:51<jm_>no doubt + you'll get no powersaving etc.
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06:55<anony>ah good point jm_ i didnt think of the powersaving aspect.
06:56<jm_>anony: why do you want to go this way?
06:56<anony>the driver is a .run file , do they go smoothly nowadays and not leave me with a blank screen after reboot? =)
06:56<jm_>don't do that
06:56<jm_>!nvidia
06:56<dpkg>Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net.
06:57<jm_>follow the wiki
06:57<anony>oh thanks
06:58<jm_>ask here for help if you need it and you can get newer version of the driver from backports
06:58<anony>last time i was logged on to the debian wheezy box i didnt have a xorg.conf file , on the wiki it says to create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf file, do u think X will automagically understand it? =)
06:59<jm_>yup
06:59<anony>cool man <3
07:00<anony>a quick question of good pratice when installing a raid1 mirror with mdadm. ill get one drive up and running with the data it should be holding and then clone it to the otherone (at that point empty disk right?)
07:01<jm_>i did it with both drives in place, you would probably need to mess with the commands to be able to create raid1 device with only one drive
07:01<anony>i got 2 drives in the machine now
07:02<anony>ill b installing wheezy on one of them
07:02<anony>i cant chose raid1 during install right? =)
07:02<anony>otherwise id do that, lol
07:03<jm_>sure you can
07:04<anony>i can?
07:04<anony>:o
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07:05<anony>man, i googled it and it looks like it has it
07:05<anony>:D:D
07:05<anony>\o/
07:05<jm_>yeah it does
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07:05<jm_>https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ#Q:_Does_the_DebianInstaller_support_creating_and_installing_to_software_RAID_devices.3F
07:08<anony>grub doesnt support raid i see. need to use lilo. does debian install dvd give option to install lilo instead of grub nowadays or will i need to get a bootcd to get it up and running?
07:09<jm_>that's only if you want to mirror /boot too as the comment says
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07:09<jm_>you could have separate /boot outside of raid to overcome that I suppose
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07:10<anony>yeah, if my drive dies with grub on it then id have to use a bootdisk right? and install grub to that other drive?
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07:12<jm_>I remember a section called 'Making your boot... more robust' in older grub but I can't find it in current doc
07:12<jm_>older grub docs that is
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07:18<jm_>and for the lilo question, I don't know, but you should be able to install it from debian installtion on tty2 before it gets rebooted
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07:18<anony>alright man thanks for the infos <3
07:19<jm_>no problem
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08:04<mestia>usb stik gets mounted to /mnt/$user/$stickname, what should I change to force mount to /mnt/$stick ? thnks
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08:09<skribblezatcha>maybe sudo mount /dev/sdb1 //mnt
08:09<skribblezatcha>o wait..sorry.
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08:13<zathras>mestia, that sounds weird and not very default. Hard to tell what is causing it. Probably some automounter or KDE or something
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08:22<zathras>what is the recommend route to take if on Wheezy some services bind to ipv4 and some to ipv6. That way they cannot work together so it seems. Suppose I want to leave ipv6 enabled. Can I tunnel this both directions somehow?
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08:23<zathras>this would probably only be required for localhost
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08:27<jm_>which services are those?
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08:29<zathras>it seems that when something is written in java it binds to ipv6
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08:30<zathras>I am currently playing with logstash, kabala, redis and elastic
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08:30<zathras>3 of them not officially part of Debian. I know
08:31<zathras>but it seems to be a generic problem
08:31<jm_>I would expect anything that works with ipv6 to be able to deal with ipv4 too
08:33<zathras>yes, but if one service is hardcoded to talk to 127.0.0.1 will the service being addressed pick it up when it only binds to the ipv6 localhost equivalent?
08:33<zathras>I do not think so
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08:33<jm_>no, that's what I was getting at, why bind to ipv6 only today
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08:34<zathras>no idea. I did not package the stuff. But even with regular packages ipv6 can get kinky. X-forward over SSH on ipv6 does not work for instance
08:35<jm_>why not?
08:36<jm_>ahh crap, will have to run now
08:36<zathras>that took me hours. The alternative quick and dirty fix would be to turn ipv6 off
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10:20<ggbg>Hoe to update flash player?
10:20<ggbg>How to update flash player?
10:21<ggbg>I`m using Debian 7 64bit amd
10:21<somiaj>ggbg: have you installed flashplugin-nonfree?
10:22<ggbg>don`t know
10:22<somiaj>ggbg: if so, it installs the script you have to manually run
10:22<somiaj>ggbg: dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree (do you see the package installed, should have an 'ii' as the first thing before the name
10:23<ggbg>Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
10:23<ggbg>This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
10:23<ggbg>is only available from another source
10:23<somiaj>ggbg: if you have it installed, run 'sudo update-flashplugin-nonfree --status'
10:23<somiaj>ggbg: sounds like you need to configure contrib to your sources.
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10:23<ggbg>cdpkg-query: no packages found matching flashplugin-nonfree
10:24<somiaj>ggbg: edit you /etc/apt/sources.list file, goto your main mirror and you should have something like 'deb mirror wheezy main' change that to 'deb mirror wheezy main contrib non-free' (non-free is optional here, but you may want it too)
10:24<somiaj>ggbg: once you do that, apt-get update && apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
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10:28<ggbg>can`t see nothing exactly the same
10:28<ggbg>1 line # deb http://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
10:29<ggbg>11nd line deb http://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
10:29<ggbg>deb-src http://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
10:29<somiaj>ggbg: make teh end of that line say main contrib non-free (instead of just saying main
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10:29<somiaj>ggbg: you want to modify the first deb line, don't worry about the deb-src line (unless you want source code)
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10:32<ggbg># deb http://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/ main contrib non-free
10:33<ggbg>and still after that apt-get update
10:33<somiaj>ggbg: the # at the start is a comment, not sure why that line is commented out.
10:33<ggbg>and now can`t install again
10:33<somiaj>ggbg: would you care to put a copy of yoru whole sources.list file at paste.debian.net
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10:34<somiaj>ggbg: also if you have any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ -- (that is a directory) put the contents of those file at the paste.debian.net too
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10:34<ggbg>http://paste.debian.net/100820/
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10:36<somiaj>ggbg: okay not sure why the first line is commented out, but it is a repeate (you can just delete line 1 as it is malformed
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10:37<somiaj>ggbg: delete line 1, you should add teh 'contrib non-free' to the ends of lines 3 and 6 forsure, (you will want security). You can optionally add it to the end of lines 4,7,10,11
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10:37<somiaj>ggbg: again for the flashplugin you only need the 'contrib' part, but you may awnt non-free software (dsfg free, so it is no cost and distruibted from debian). I just figured if you may want that in the future add it now
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10:40<ggbg>shout i delete'wheezy main'?
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10:44<somiaj>ggbg: no
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10:44<somiaj>ggbg: you only want to add those two words to the end of the lines, keep the rest the same
10:45<somiaj>ggbg: you can repaste your sources.list file at paste.debian.net if you want me to check it
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11:02<nbl>hello world !
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11:03<nbl>I need some help please, I'm trying to compile compton transparency compiste from github and when a type make command I've "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL" error message someone can help me please ? :'(
11:03<nbl>composite*
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11:05<towo`>maybe you havn't the dev-packeages installed?
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11:09<nbl>yes, I've installed mesa-common-dev
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11:17<nbl>sorry it works I must installed libgl1-mesa-dev not mesa-common-dev
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11:27<dutch>damn if debian hasn't changed since the last time I used it :(
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11:29<gandalf_>dutch: for better or worse?
11:29<centrx>no change
11:29<centrx>always good
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11:30<dutch>gandalf..not sure, but it's way different...
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11:30<dutch>right now trying to figure out flash & windows
11:31<dutch>I'm more used to the gnome structure...multiple windows on the bottom bar...
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11:31<dutch>I think gnome w/ debian is some what similar to ubuntu but just arranged differently
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11:32<gandalf_>understood
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11:35<dutch>I did figure out how to change the resolution...
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11:35<dutch>at my age, that little print is how on my eyes :)
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11:37<dutch>now, to figure out flash and those extra windows...
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12:26<jonadab>I always customize Gnome so heavily, it's barely recognizeable as Gnome, if at all.
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13:31<usrnix>Hi, I have an SD card I tried to wipe but now it doesn't show up as a device anywhere; any ideas on what I might have done? I can't put a filesystem on it it seems
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13:38<devil>usrnix: have you tried gparted? put a partition table on it first in case that got wiped
13:38<planetmaker>usrnix, dd if=whatever is of=/dev/SDCard (whatever device it should be?)
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13:41<dualbus>planetmaker: I think that wiping is not the problem, but finding the specific device node...
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13:42<dualbus>usrnix: did you try unplugging/plugging and seeing what dmesg tells?
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14:14<awal>Hi! Which commad is executed in the backgroud when one clic's in the 'logout' (exit session) button in Gnome 3 menu? 'gnome-session-save --logout' 'gnome-session-quit --logout' 'gnome-session-quit' ...? I'm trying to add a keyboard shortcut for 'logout' (exit session) in gnome system setting ---» mouse & touchpad because Ctrl+Alt+Delete only gives 'cancel, restart and shutdown'. Thanks for any suggestion :)
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14:16<awal>sorry in "gnome system settings ---» keyborad" ^^^
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14:57<biscolo>Hello yall
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14:57<retrospectacus>hi, biscolo
14:57<biscolo>Can someone please tell me what is the difference between the cmd dmesg and the file dmesg located in the /var/log dir ?
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14:58<retrospectacus>"man dmesg" will tell you about that
14:58<biscolo>Yes, and the file dmesg ?
14:58<weasel>biscolo: /var/log/dmesg is the contents of the kernel ring buffer some time during/after system boot.
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14:59<weasel>see /etc/init.d/bootlogs
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15:00<biscolo>@weasel : The bootlogs file is the same as the /var/log/dmesg ?
15:01<weasel>no.
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15:01<weasel>etc/init.d/bootlogs is the script that *creates* /var/log/dmesg
15:02<retrospectacus>biscolo: /var/log/dmesg is a snapshot of "dmesg" output during boot
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15:04<biscolo>And the things that being done after the boot , will be just in the memory ? and not saved in the dmesg file ?
15:05<retrospectacus>correct
15:06<biscolo>Many thanks guys
15:06<biscolo>I appreciate your help
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15:08<weasel>biscolo: your instance of a syslog will most likely maintain a /var/log/kern.log or something like that
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15:08<awal>I asked so I give my own "solution" if anyone interested (don't know if I did good :P) I added a shortcut in gnome (system setting =» keyboard) like this =» Name: Logout ; Command: gnome-session-quit ; keyboard shortcut: Shift+Alt+Delete and it works fine :) Things are done in the exact way as 'logout' button (exit session) does (a window appear asking for exit session or cancel):)
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17:27<creeperking447>hi
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17:27<martsy>hi creeper 447
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17:28<Randoon>sup creeper?
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17:31<centrx>what a creep
17:31<Randoon>lol
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20:36<Waykool99>is it ok to ask for help on a LIVE DVD run Knoppix? GParted partitioning issues
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20:41<senketsu>hi
20:42<Waykool99>hello
20:42<senketsu>so, i'm using jessie and i want to upgrade to the next "testing" distro when jessie gets frozen in a few months
20:42<themill>senketsu: the next testing won't exist until after jessie is released (not when jessie is frozen). Just after release is normally a very good time to avoid running testing.
20:42<senketsu>ok
20:43<senketsu>but if I wanted to upgrade, how would I do it without losing my data?
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20:44<themill>senketsu: the same way you'd upgrade from wheezy to jessie today -- ask dpkg about it: /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie
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20:52<Waykool99>in Knoppix v6.0 live dvd run. have 3 drives: 1 SATA 650 GB WD master, 1 SATA 2 TB slave, 1 IDE WD 80 GB drive master, 2 DVD writers: 1 built-in IDE and 1 USB DVD writer. Goal: partition 80 GB drive to FAT 32, install Windows 98se to play old Win95 games, partition 650 GB SATA drive to NTFS, to install Win XP Pro, 2 TB drive multiple distros of Linux. Problem is copied/pasted the Install CDs of win 98se and win xp pro. should i be using
20:52<Waykool99> an old DOS/98 Startup or can you run it from Linux Terminal command line w/WINE?
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20:53<Waykool99>getting the Splash screens of win 98 and win xp
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20:53<Waykool99>then errors popup
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20:55<themill>Waykool99: there's a #knoppix over on irc.freenode.net. We don't know much about knoppix here.
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20:55<Waykool99>Ah. ok. thank you themill.
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20:56<Waykool99>would be fun if I pulled this off.
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20:59<John[Lisbeth]>I'm seeding a large number of files and I wonder if I could put into tmpfs in order to speed it up and reduce the load on my hard drive
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