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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-05-23

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02:37<arond>is there a way to use apt-get to install an earlier version of linux headers, or is there only one version?
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02:38<ncl>arond: you can use dpkg to install an older version you probably already have in /var/cache/apt/
02:38<ncl>/var/cache/apt/archives even
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02:39<arond>ncl: cool thanks I'll look in to that
02:40<somiaj>arond: what version of debian are you running? And why do you need earlier versions?
02:40<jm_>you can also use apt using the package=foo syntax as long as it's available (of course there might be an issue if you already have newer version installed, since downgrades are not really supported)
02:41<arond>somiaj: debian jessie, I need the 3.13 headers to install the commercial ati catalyst driver beta
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02:41<jm_>you need matching running kernel & linux headers package
02:42<arond>somiaj: when I did apt-get the only option available was for 3.14
02:42<arond>jm: my kernel version is 3.13-1
02:42<somiaj>arond: you should be asking in #debian-next, and it is probabaly the older versions were removed from jessie as it is a moving target
02:42<somiaj>arond: upgrade to the 3.14 kernel
02:42<arond>jm: rather 3.13.10
02:42<arond>somiaj: the ati drivers only support 3.13
02:43<somiaj>arond: snapshot.debian.org -- can find old packages there
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02:44<somiaj>arond: again ask questions in #debian-next and make sure you are using the offical debian fglrx packages else you may run into issues. (:
02:44<arond>somiaj: I was worried about issues in custom packages, I was trying to build lmms from source the other week but it doesn't want to build in jessie right now for whatever reason
02:45<arond>somiaj: I tried the official fglrx package and the 2d acceleration appeared to work OK, but I can't open any opengl windows, I don't think the package is working. My card is an ati 5870
02:46<somiaj>arond: I'm just saying the ati driver isntall from amd can mess with dpkg's handeling of files.
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02:47<jmcnaught>arond: that card should work with the debian package. personally i have a 5770 that meets my needs with the free drivers. but this is also the channel for Wheezy, so #debian-next is a better place to get help
02:48<arond>somiaj: right I thought that might be an issue, is there a recommended way to use unmanaged software installs in debian or is it packages only
02:48<somiaj>arond: yes install things in /usr/local or $HOME or /opt, unforntally with ati drivers you need them in core places and they will conflict with debian packages and thus maybe make thigns not work as they should
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02:49<somiaj>arond: but go to #debian-next and we can help you there get the actual debian fglrx packages installed, you may want to also search the debian wiki for info on cleaning up your system once you used the ati installer
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02:49<arond>jmcnaught: thanks I'll check the other channel, I'm using the free drivers on debian jessie also and they work pretty well although they fall short for playing opengl games on steam
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02:51<jm_>arond: did you install firmware-linux-nonfree libgl1-mesa-dri?
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02:52<arond>jm_: yes I think I had to in order to get the free drivers to work earlier since they need the nonfree part
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02:53<jm_>arond: they don't really need it as in dependency, but you want it for opengl stuff
02:53<arond>somiaj: thanks for the info I'm going to look more into the custom install
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02:56<arond>thanks guys for the help I'm heading out
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03:09<victory>https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/: Announcements of development issues like policy changes, important release issues &c.
03:09<victory>what is &c?
03:12<jm_>probably just a typo
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03:13<rvdv>maybe some code for etcetera?
03:13<rvdv>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_cetera ... seems so
03:14<jm_>heh nice find, never seen it written this way
03:15<rvdv>actually me neither
03:15<victory>thanks; that is &c since the first: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/webwml/webwml/english/MailingLists/desc/devel/debian-devel-announce?revision=1.1&view=markup
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04:01<buffoon_work>Hi again! I've setup a HP MicroServer with a P212 Controller and debian/kfreebsd (As discussed yesterday). There's just really ugly performance during writes... It seems that the P212 Controller isn't supported as well as on linux...
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04:06<petn-randall>buffoon_work: Did you active the writeback cache on the controller?
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04:12<buffoon_work>petn-randall, I've got no battery on the controller so write-cache won't be available... But still, I'm writing with 1-2MB/s. That should go faster even without write cache enabled on a 3-disk Hardware RAID5.
04:13<buffoon_work>the other problem is that i didn't find a tool to manage the controller. You only get Linux binaries for the HP ACU
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04:16<petn-randall>buffoon_work: random or sequential I/O?
04:18<buffoon_work>petn-randall, right now I'm copying some ISO Images on it so it should be pretty sequential. random I/O is even worse. I tried to run a 2nd cp job but then the wirte performance is even less then 1MB/s
04:18<nex_necis>buffoon_work: what kind oh hard disks do you use? And what is the blocksize?
04:19<buffoon_work>it's 3x500GB Sata with 7200RPM. We have a lot of similar setups on Debian/Linux and write performance is much better
04:20<jm_>how about reads, are they fast?
04:21<buffoon_work>one thing I'm not sure about is if the controller still does some allocation of blocks in that raid so maybe that is slowing the whole array down.
04:21<buffoon_work>Don't know about reads... Still populating the disk and waiting...
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04:24<nex_necis>buffoon_work: the inizialitation is completed or is still in background?
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04:31<buffoon_work>nex_necis, that's the other problem I got... I don't know because I can't look into the controllers configuration on the kfreebsd kernel. Maybe I should try zfsonlinux and debian/linux
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05:08<buffoon_work>Ok, now I rebootet, looked into the controller and saw that the initalization was already finished so that was not the reason for that bad I/O. I'm trying out with linux kernel and zfsonlinux now
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06:58<Guest11398>hi there, i have a problem with my bluetooth mouse. when i do a doubleklick then the next single klick will also be a doubleklick (mostly). i am using debian wheezy with gnome shell on an TP x200 with TP bluetooth laser mouse. anyone can help me?
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07:08<Brigo>Guest10407, try this: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Mice-and-Pointing-Devices/Mouse-Double-Clicks-when-I-only-Single-Click/td-p/243999/page/4
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07:14<Guest11398>thanks i try it out
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07:15<bullgard4> /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-3.2/Documentation/cachetlb.txt: "Cache and TLB Flushing Under Linux" <-- What does »TLB« stand for?
07:16<jm_>try dict tlb
07:17<bullgard4>jm_: Surprise! It's listed there. - Thank you.
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07:22<markosejic>good daz
07:22<markosejic>day
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07:22<Guest11398>ok i think blowing some air (with mouth) into the mouse buttons worked, really nice fix thanks again
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07:37<@babilen>bullgard4: Yes, what a surprise. Please try to ask Debian related questions in here in the future please. You are given the chance to observe the way this is being used for a while and I hope that you will treat it accordingly.
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08:18<noor>jk
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08:26<grummund>Hi, is it possible to mount a loop-device prior to mounting '/' ?
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08:27*grummund is thinking of using that to supply keyfiles to mount all other partitions, including /, which are LUKS encrypted.
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08:30<babilen>grummund: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Device_encryption#Unlock_the_root_partition_at_boot_using_a_keyfile
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08:32<tdi>hi, anybody using network manager and openvpn ?
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08:32<babilen>tdi: Be the first!
08:32<tdi>got a grayed out gui when wanting to add openvpn connection
08:33<babilen>network-manager-openvpn{,-gnome} are installed?
08:33<grummund>babilen: i believe the problem with that is it stores the key(s) as plaintext on the usb drive
08:33<babilen>grummund: it does, yes
08:33<tdi>babilen: ofc, I am struggling with for 4h
08:33<babilen>grummund: Or that was my understanding too
08:34<tdi>all installed, I am in netdev, maybe some polkit things need to be done
08:34<babilen>tdi: Well, you never know. Which version of network-manager and Debian?
08:34<tdi>babilen: testing, 0.9.8.10-2
08:34<babilen>tdi: Okay, come and join us in #debian-next in that case. This channel is rather for stable support.
08:35<tdi>kk
08:35<grummund>babilen: my plan was to mount a LUKS encrypted container which then has the keyfiles which can be used as per your link
08:36<babilen>grummund: And you want to give the passphrase for the initial container that then contains all the rest?
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08:36<grummund>babilen: exactly.
08:37<babilen>grummund: That is possible .. I read about it some time ago. Can't quite recall how though. Maybe ask in a dm-crypt specifci channel?
08:37<grummund>something similar is possible simply by keeping the keyfiles on the root partition, but then it would be on disk and a single point of failure should the '/' disk ever be corrupted.
08:38<grummund>so then you need backups of the keyfiles, etc...
08:40<grummund>objective: 1) be able to boot from USB stick; 2) have keyfiles on the USB stick; 3) require pass phrase to access the keyfiles; 4) ability to revoke the USB stick if lost/stolen.
08:41<grummund>i think all this is possible if loop-device is mountable before '/' :-P
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08:42<grummund>i know how to create a loop-device but not enough about the boot sequence to see how/if it can be mounted.
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08:48<ZIPY>hey, i have an encrypted ntfs hdd (truecrypt), now im finding a folder on it (found.000) does someone know what it is for?
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08:51<ZIPY>im not sure if i can delete this folder
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08:54<victory>ZIPY: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-hardware/deleting-found000-folder/de55e8d7-a9da-4413-820c-4fcc1742a4de
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08:56<ZIPY>yes i used chkdsk on that disk
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08:57<ZIPY>but what i think is weired, is that i did that on windows and my entire debian system is lvm encrypted but when i look into that folder, there is a folder that seems to mirror my debian root folder
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08:57<ZIPY>even when i delete something in debian, it is deleted in that folder aswell
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08:58<ZIPY>maybe its a kind of a link/shortcut?
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09:11<buffoon_work>so now i set up debian/linux instead of debian/kfreebsd on my microserver (as mentioned earlier) and I got a write performance of ~30MB/s instead of 2MB/s. Seems to be a problem with the p212 Controller. I'm not sure though
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09:13<petn-randall>buffoon_work: Probably kfreebsd needs some tuning before it'll run with good performance.
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09:14<buffoon_work>that's possible... However, ZFS runs on linux kernel as well and as far as I can tell until now (Still copying a lot if ISO Images to test dedup) it seems to be a very cool Filesystem...
09:14<Werkena>Hi, How do I make sure whenever a service/daemon stops by some reason to get restarted
09:15<buffoon_work>Lets just hope that the btrfs developers can go on to implement the remaining bits...
09:16<petn-randall>Werkena: Daemons usually have a very good reason when they stop working, which will need intervention by the sysadmin.
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09:19<Werkena>petn-randall: Yes, I understand you. But suppose here I have a usb-wife which I made it an AP with hostapd, incase I some how unplug it and then replug it, I need hostapd to restart automatically instead of hanging (waiting to be restarted by sysadmin).
09:19<petn-randall>usb-wife, tehee ;)
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09:21<Werkena>petn-randall: yes, even for my laptop wireless card to act as wifi to AP
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09:22<Werkena>petn-randall: But generally not only "hostapd" I also had a problem related to that ....when incase isc-dhcp-server stops/needs a restart.....I need some mechanism to check whenever some service to restart it (at least).
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09:25<petn-randall>Werkena: I see your problem. I'm thinking of a clean way how to solve this.
09:26<Werkena>petn-randall: I am thinking of using cron to check it(such service) on a timely bases. But I wondering if there is any other way before going to that.
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09:28<Brigo>Werkena, you could watcing for logs...
09:28<Brigo>watching*
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09:29<petn-randall>Werkena: The problem with cron is, if for some reason the service genuinely is broken, it'll totally spam your logs with failed start up attempts.
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09:32<Brigo>monitoring logs you can find the exactly event message, and then restart daemon, not spamming logs.
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09:36<Werkena>petn-randall: thanks to know that....I googled for this but still can't find any....I wonder how those big softwares like apache do this. Especially not only to start during/after reboot....there must be some mechanism to at least try to restart it for anycase it might stop.
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09:38<petn-randall>Werkena: I solved it by starting the daemons on ifup, and stopping them on ifdown. That won't be an option, though, if it's a laptop where you're running network-manager.
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09:40<petn-randall>Werkena: I remember though that there's a tool that'll restart daemons if they're offline, don't remember the name though :(
09:41<Werkena>peten-randall: I am still googling but still not successful.
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09:56<Brigo>petn-randall, /etc/inittab will do.
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09:57<Brigo>petn-randall, monit may be?
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10:26<petn-randall>Brigo: Yes, it was monit! <-- Werkena
10:26<Brigo>:)
10:27<Werkena>petn-randall: Yes thank you. I am looking into it now. thanks for all your help along with Brigo.
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10:28<Brigo>weasel, np :)
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11:06<grummund>Hi, to add a script into initramfs is it just place it under /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/... and then run dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-nnnn-pae ?
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11:06<grummund>at least that is what debian kernel handbook says, but i see references elsewhere to update-initramfs
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11:24<SynrG>grummund: yes, and yes.
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11:24<SynrG>update-initramfs is the tool that does it. but maintainer scripts for debian kernel packages built the debian way trigger update-initramfs on reconfigure
11:24<grummund>SynrG: i tried both (although not rebooted yet)
11:25<grummund>dpkg-reconfigure seems also to run update-grub
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11:26*grummund wonders if that's important
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11:59<grummund>Where are files to populate an initrd sourced from, e.g. /lib/... and /etc/... ?
11:59<grummund>using update-initramfs -u
12:03<somiaj>according to the man page, /etc/initramfs-tools/
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12:03<rostam>HI does debian support secure boot through UEFI framework? thx
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12:05<grummund>somiaj: which man page describes that please?
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12:06<somiaj>grummund: man update-initramfs
12:06<petn-randall>rostam: It supports EFI boot, but not secure boot due to a missing signed boot key.
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13:28<devcrack>some one speak spanish
13:28<devcrack>?
13:28<ncl>!es
13:28<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
13:29<devcrack>really?
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13:30<retrospectacus>si
13:30<devcrack>enserio y de que pais de habla hispana eres?
13:31<retrospectacus>!es devcrack
13:31<dpkg>devcrack: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
13:32<devcrack>:/
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13:33<retrospectacus>devcrack: is there some confusion about this?
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13:38*grummund managed to trash the contents of /etc/initramfs-tools/... :-(
13:38<grummund>accidentally unpacked an initrd there
13:39<SynrG>fortunately initrd has fairly unique top-level dirs, easy to locate and remove
13:40<grummund>except 'scripts' :-/
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13:40<SynrG>ah, hm
13:41<grummund>can i just move /etc/initramfs-tools aside and then aptitude reinstall initramfs-tools ?
13:41<SynrG>can you guarantee *only* initramfs-tools puts stuff there?
13:42<grummund>hmm, good point
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13:42<SynrG>apt-file search /etc/initramfs-tools
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13:43<SynrG>chances are it will work
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13:43<SynrG>a handful of rarely used packages also include configs for that dir
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13:52<grummund>aptitude reinstall initramfs-tools failed, it created the directory structure but no files
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13:56<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell grummund about confmiss
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14:03<rostam>petn-randall thanks
14:04<SynrG>grummund: ah. it honors removal of /etc files
14:04<SynrG>grummund: that's by design
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14:04<SynrG>grummund: purge and reinstall, then
14:04<SynrG>(good luck ;)
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14:05<SynrG>oh, i see. confmiss is a recipe for that
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14:05<SynrG>retrospectacus: thanks. filed in brane for future reference :)
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14:40<homedebian>hi all !
14:40<homedebian>my names ilia hello all !
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14:44<SynrG>!ask
14:44<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:54<CQ>hello, what do I need to isntall for gnome-vfs? I'm looking to get bluefish to work with FTP ... http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/manual/ch05s12.html
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15:54<turbo>I have a question about init/insserv... I'm managing the packaging for ZFS On Linux (not yet availible in Debian GNU/Linux - waiting in the in-queue if I remember correctly).
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15:54<CQ> libgnome-vfs2.0-cil ? https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gnome-vfs
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15:54<turbo>Is something like that allowed in the S runlevel?
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16:31<Guest11437>hi again, i am trying to set up iptables. my problem is to get samba client running. i set up these rules: http://paste.debian.net/101475/ maybe someone can help me?
16:32<Ozzie>Hi. I upgraded my system to Sid thinking it would be rolling release and bleeding edge, but gnome3 is .8 and the latest is .12. I dont wanna leave Debian and install Arch, what do you suggest?
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16:33<ompaul>Ozzie: that is your call, experimental is two words the latter of which is a clue
16:33<ompaul>mental
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16:33<ompaul>if you think of doing that - you'll be basically doing your own bug fixes forever - but that is your call SID is not nor ever will be a rolling distro
16:33<ompaul>it is not even a release
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16:34<Ozzie>Oh...
16:34<ompaul>it is a place where stuff rests before hitting testing to make sure it is somewhat sane
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16:36<Ozzie>To upgrade to experimental only have to change sid for experimental in my sources.list?
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16:37<ompaul>experimental does not work like that I strongly suggest you look at the wiki about it before you even try doing anything
16:37<ompaul>again it is not like that - it doesn't work like that and you should read some stuff first
16:37<ompaul>!experimental
16:37<dpkg>experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/
16:37<ompaul>as I said
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16:38<ompaul>which points back to me saying what I said earlier and you still asked about it, as if asking would change my mind
16:39<Ozzie>Ok. I am gonna read about it.
16:39<Ozzie>Thank you all.
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17:31<Xylon>hi
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17:32<Xylon>when I click the hibernate button in XFCE nothing happens, how can I debig?
17:32<Xylon>Where would logs for this be?
17:32<Xylon>(it normally works but not today)
17:32<Xylon>yesturday lock screen wasn't working correctly and then I rebooted and now this
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17:33<pudor>hi all! any ideas with "keyboard interface error| press f1" after mouse has been disabled any her wish?
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17:34<pudor>*by her wish
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17:36<pudor>i switch randomly two mouses and keyboard between usb port on front and back side and after n-combination it works right way but who write so buggy code?
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17:39<Xylon>when I run `pm-hibernate' it just returns exit status 1 with no error
17:39<Xylon>and there doens't seem to be a verbose option
17:40<pudor>i got: try to knock on havens door
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18:11<ScottE>Xylon: I would start by looking at the logs in /var/log/pm-*.log
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18:12<Scout>Hello ppl :D
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18:39<jeison>hi
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18:53<Scout>Hello someone its there?
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18:54<centrx>!hi
18:54<dpkg>hello, centrx
18:54<lzzluca>hello!
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18:57<Scout>Hello?
18:57<Scout>someone can help me?:D
18:57<centrx>!ask
18:57<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
18:57<Scout>oh...
18:57<Scout>someone know about remote windows?
18:58<centrx>What is that?
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18:59<Scout>im working on kali linux, u understood this OS?
18:59<ncl>!kali
18:59<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
18:59<ncl>The bot has an answer for everything!
19:00<zykotick9>Scout: kali has their own irc channel on freenode... ncl got it ;)
19:00<Scout>Oh okey Thanks zykotic9 and have a nice day/night ;D
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19:20<sleser>hi
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19:21<centrx>!hi
19:21<dpkg>hello, centrx
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19:26<sleser>guys is it safe to install a newer virsion of clam ?
19:26<sleser>from its website ?
19:26<devil>safe for?
19:26<sleser>for the virsion im using
19:27<centrx>,v clamav
19:27<judd>Package: clamav on i386 -- squeeze: 0.97.8+dfsg-1~squeeze1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 0.98.1+dfsg-1+deb6u3; squeeze-updates: 0.98.1+dfsg-1+deb6u3; wheezy: 0.98.1+dfsg-1+deb7u3; wheezy-updates: 0.98.1+dfsg-1+deb7u3; jessie: 0.98.1+dfsg-5; sid: 0.98.4~rc1+dfsg-2
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19:28<devil>I have no idea about clamav or virus stuff, but installing stuff outside of dpkg is not safe
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19:28<centrx>sleser, Better solution may be to backport it from sid yourself
19:28<sleser>i see that 0.98.1 this i already have installed . the website for clam av already has like the 0.98.3 . so is what i was asking
19:29<centrx>dpkg, tell sleser about ssb
19:29<centrx>That will keep things handled by the package system, dependencies, etc. and avoid difficulties in installing it yourself
19:31<sleser>so i should leave it the way it is . itll update on its own ?
19:32<centrx>sleser, The update should make it's way into wheezy-updates at some point. I'm surprised it's not there now. Make sure you have a line for "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main" in your sources.list
19:32<mtn>sleser: what do you use clamav for? what kind of virus are you looking for?
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19:33<sleser>. just for curiasity
19:33<mtn>sleser: so you care about windows viruses?
19:33<sleser>not that
19:33<mtn>sleser: that is what clamav looks for
19:33<sleser>its if i tell you the experience i had in previus linux . you might not like it
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19:34<mtn>sleser: clamav will not find linux viruses. it doesn't look for them
19:34<sleser>i had viruses on my old distro on a fresh install with clam tk
19:34<sleser>system files whitch canot be wiped or quarentined
19:34<mtn>sleser: this is a bood read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
19:34<mtn>bood/good
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19:35<sleser>also t hat is one of the reasons i switched to debian
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19:36<sleser>i dont realy like seeing a fresh install of linux coming with system files dirty
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19:41<kini>so in aptitude there is a category of packages called "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages"
19:42<kini>does this mean that APT is unable to distinguish between packages that I created locally and packages that used to exist in the debian archives but have since been removed?
19:43<centrx>"Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" means "packages that are installed but are not on the mirror"
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19:44<centrx>There is enough metadata in Debian packages you should be able to separate "Obsolete" from "Locally Created", but apt has no reason to do it itself
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19:49<sleser>is there a way of remooving konqueror from t he panel without having the clock speeker klipper shifting to the rite side on its own and making a big mess ?
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20:16<tracker>I can't login Ubuntu 14.04LTS on a Windows 2008 R2 Server. It is possible?
20:18<zykotick9>tracker: see #ubuntu on freenode
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20:21<kuark>hello
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20:26<kuark>where to find beini?
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20:27<sney>beini?
20:28<kuark>hi sney
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20:29<sney>hi
20:29<kuark>yes the program that finds passwords for wifi connections
20:29<kuark>i know its a pirate program
20:29<sney>assuming you spelled it right, it's not in the archive, so you'll have to get it from upstream
20:30<kuark>mmm
20:30<kuark>something to do it?
20:30<sney>google
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20:30<kuark>hehe
20:30<kuark>ok
20:30<kuark>im homeless
20:31<kuark>and i want to use a signal from a very big factory
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20:32<sney>you should probably look up docs on "wardriving"
20:32<kuark>mmm
20:33<kuark>ok thanks!
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20:44<babilen>dpkg: tell kuark -about pyrit
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20:44<babilen>dpkg: tell kuark -about weplab
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21:28<kingsley>How would you 1.) identify the names of malware being received, and 2.) filter/ignore it?
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21:30<John[Lisbeth]>kingsley: one of the problems with malware is it doesn't exactly try to report it's self to system monitors. ALot of the time you wont' notice you have malware until something goes wrong.
21:31<kingsley>John[Lisbeth]: Yes, what you say is true, and I may owe you an apology for being vague.
21:32<kingsley>I think I should have mentioned that the malware is in incoming email.
21:32<kingsley>When I see it, I recognize it.
21:32<John[Lisbeth]>one of the best thing you can do is filter the kind of scripts which can be run and files which can be opened in email
21:32<kingsley>I suspect it's variants of Zeus or zbot.
21:32<centrx>clamav?
21:32<John[Lisbeth]>I'm not sure since I'm not a security expert
21:33<kingsley>But I find myself wondering if there's a more authoritative way to ID malware, and then automatically ignore it.
21:33<themill>hooking clamav into the MTA is the normal way of doing this. It's only ever going to be as good as clamav's signature database though
21:33<kingsley>centrx: Maybe. I used to use it.
21:34<kingsley>centrx: Do you happen to know if clamav can ID malware?
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21:36<centrx>I dont know
21:36<tkf>wow big channel. i never even heard of this network until today
21:36<tkf>does it have many users?
21:39<ncl>Current global users: 9816 Max: 10940
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21:39*kingsley checks out clamav...
21:40<tkf>impressive really, irc.debian.org resolvs here
21:40<tkf>never knew
21:40<tkf>figured it would have landed on freenode
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21:41<centrx>It used to, before 2006 or thereabouts
21:41<somiaj>tkf: kinda off-topic here, but debian moved to oftc years ago from freenode as the main irc network
21:41<tkf>ah!
21:41<tkf>interesting stuff
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21:44<kingsley>clamav seems to be aware of several ZEUS signatures.
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21:57<spythisbitch>How can I watch DVD's on Bodhi Linux
21:58<abrotman>spythisbitch: this is #debian, we don't support Bodhi
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21:59<spythisbitch>what chatroom does?
22:00<abrotman>!bodhi
22:00<abrotman>grr
22:01<abrotman>spythisbitch: #bodhilinux on irc.freenode.net
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