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01:58<FakeBoost>Hello, does anyone know if there's a LXDE ready wheezy iso to download?
02:01<somiaj>FakeBoost: do you want an install image or a live image?
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02:02<FakeBoost>mmm
02:02<FakeBoost>What I want is to make a persistent usb drive install, since a netbook i have doesnt have a hard drive.
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02:02<FakeBoost>somiaj
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02:05<somiaj>at live.debian.net you can download live imges that can eb put onto a usbstick just fine. There are various ways to go about making a live image persistant which I think is preferable over having an actuall install on a usb drive (you could do that too)
02:05<somiaj>http://live.debian.net/manual/1.x/html/persistence.html
02:05<FakeBoost>ok
02:05<FakeBoost>I have there how to make it persistent?
02:06<FakeBoost>Why is it preferable?
02:06<somiaj>usb drives have slow read/write speeds, so booting into a live image and running things from tmpfs will be faster
02:07<FakeBoost>aha
02:07<FakeBoost>but everything works just like the true debian os?
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02:08<somiaj>FakeBoost: correct
02:08<FakeBoost>ok
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02:09<somiaj>FakeBoost: and there are various different ways to deal with persistance. Depending on your wifi connenction on your device you could download the lxde live nonfree image from live.debian.net
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02:09<FakeBoost>I just checked the database
02:09<FakeBoost>and there is many 7.5 lxde files
02:09<somiaj>FakeBoost: If everything you need is on the live image, then the only real presistance you need is a place to put personal data.
02:09<FakeBoost>should i download them all?
02:10<FakeBoost>not only personal data, but settings...
02:10<somiaj>FakeBoost: if you find you need to regulrally install software that is not on the live image with apt-get and don't want to do that each time then you have various ways to add persistance to actual software.
02:10<somiaj>amd64 or i386?
02:11<FakeBoost>on the link you gave me
02:11<FakeBoost>i386
02:11<FakeBoost>http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/stable+nonfree/i386/iso-hybrid/
02:11<somiaj>well they have a method to automount a secondary partion as /home which makes user data and user settings easy to be persistant.
02:11<FakeBoost>ok
02:11<FakeBoost>in that link
02:11<FakeBoost>check the lxde files
02:11<somiaj>FakeBoost: grab the lxde .iso file
02:11<FakeBoost>which one should i download?
02:12<FakeBoost>debian-live-7.5-i386-lxde-desktop+nonfree.iso this one?
02:12<somiaj>FakeBoost: only one is an .iso file, that is the image, the other tell you contents, package lists, logs if you are intersted in that as well
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02:12<FakeBoost>because i want flash out of the box
02:12<somiaj>FakeBoost: correct, that is the actual image.
02:12<FakeBoost>ok, i ll download it now...
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02:13<somiaj>FakeBoost: debian cannot provide you flash out of the box, but since you can load plugins from the home dir, I woudl set up /home dir persistance and you can put a copy of the flashplugin there and not have to change the image
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02:14<FakeBoost>ok
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02:24<somiaj>FakeBoost: so seems after you cp the image to your usb stick you can partition the rest of the stick up. I would use at least apersistant /home, and if you can get away with only using that it would be better
02:25<FakeBoost>ok, one thing i;m reading is that i better set another partition for home and everything persistent...
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02:34<FakeBoost>somiaj, the partition with the debian live install i'll make it 1.1Gb in size, since the .iso is 1GB, and all packages added later will be on the other partition...
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02:40<FakeBoost>somiaj, what type of file system would you recommend for the home/persistent partition in the pen drive?
02:47<somiaj>FakeBoost: you want to cp the .iso to the full disk, (which will destory any partition table and the likes on the usb drive)
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02:47<somiaj>FakeBoost: after you do that, you can then partition teh remaining pice and put what you want on it
02:47<FakeBoost>ok...
02:47<FakeBoost>but
02:47<FakeBoost>by cp the iso
02:47<FakeBoost>you mean to burn it?
02:48<somiaj>FakeBoost: the reason you'll want to do this is so all the bootable info and grub and the likes get passed teh mbr of the drive
02:48<FakeBoost>like installing
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02:48<FakeBoost>ok.
02:48<somiaj>FakeBoost: no I mean 'cp debian-live.iso /dev/sdc' where /dev/sdc is your usb drive (check this, and realize you will loose all data on /dev/sdc)
02:48<FakeBoost>just copy?
02:48<somiaj>this is a dangerous command so make sure everything is correct
02:48<FakeBoost>i didn't know you could do that
02:49<somiaj>yes the debian iso images are hybrid and designed to be bootable already, all you have to do is copy them onto the medium you want to use
02:49<FakeBoost>What file system do you recommend.
02:49<FakeBoost>I will partition it now
02:49<FakeBoost>i mean format
02:50<FakeBoost>for pen drives?
02:50<FakeBoost>ext 2,3 or 4?
02:50<somiaj>Unsure if you want ext2 or ext4 (depends on if you want jourling or not)
02:50<melmothX>my guess: ext2, i.e. without journal
02:50<FakeBoost>ok, so what is journaling?
02:50<somiaj>anyways dont make any partitions or filesystems until after you copy the .iso to your pen drive and get the live image there
02:50<FakeBoost>ok
02:51<FakeBoost>but i want to format first, that's why i ask
02:51<melmothX>even if for a pendrive it would make sense to have it vfat, for better interoperability
02:51<somiaj>FakeBoost: why do you want to format first?
02:52<FakeBoost>Because it has two partitions already and i want to use the whole pen drive size.
02:52<somiaj>melmothX: he is going to use it for a persistant /home, so probably ext2 would be easier to deal with
02:52<FakeBoost>that's why i want to format
02:52<somiaj>FakeBoost: when you copy the .iso file to the usb pen drive it will destory the partition table and the data on it
02:52<melmothX>somiaj: ah, ok I missed that bit, then ext2 so be it
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02:53<FakeBoost>ok somiaj...
02:53<somiaj>FakeBoost: and after you copy you can then partition off the rest of the pen drive not used by the live image for what ever you want
02:53<FakeBoost>but the iso will be allocated on a file system, that's what i want to know...
02:54<somiaj>FakeBoost: the .iso is an image of a partition table (including the bootable part) and the first partition with the filesystem and all the info needed for the usb live image
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02:55<FakeBoost>ok, copying now...
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03:03<FakeBoost>FAIL
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03:04<FakeBoost>somiaj, I get this output when booting the pen drive: error: unknown file system entering rescue mode...Could it be that I had another Wheezy install and I didn't format?
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03:08<somiaj>FakeBoost: what was the exact command you used when copying the iso to the pen drive
03:08<FakeBoost>let me copy
03:08<FakeBoost>sudo cp debian-live-7.5-i386-lxde-desktop+nonfree.iso /dev/sdb1
03:09<somiaj>did you see a 1 at the end of anything I typed, I said write the iso to the actual drive not the first parittion
03:09<somiaj>(:
03:09<somiaj>so if /dev/sdb is your usb stick, copy it to /dev/sdb
03:09<FakeBoost>ok, so i can do it again
03:10<somiaj>correct, (:
03:10<FakeBoost>second try
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03:16<FakeBoost>Success!!
03:16<FakeBoost>Good!!
03:16<FakeBoost>Thank you, somiaj!
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03:20<FakeBoost>Now, to make it persistent, i read this from the link you gave: a partition with a clean writable supported filesystem on it labeled "live-rw" must be attached on the system at bootime.- What does it mean at boot time? How do i do that, somiaj?
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03:20<somiaj>FakeBoost: now that you have the image on the cd, use your partition tool and add additional partitions to it
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03:21<somiaj>FakeBoost: it just means the drive that the partition is on is 'pluged in' during boot
03:21<somiaj>FakeBoost: I would just put those partitions on the remaining part of the usb stick
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03:21<somiaj>I would suggest only use the home one if possible, the full presistance with live-rw might be slow
03:21<FakeBoost>ok
03:21<FakeBoost>err
03:21<FakeBoost>let me see
03:22<FakeBoost>You mean this?: 7.5.2. Home automounting?
03:22<somiaj>yes
03:23<FakeBoost>so i create a partition with home-rw label.
03:24<somiaj>well you create a partition, the ext2 file system you give the home-rw label
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03:25<FakeBoost>great!
03:25<FakeBoost>just looking for the tool...
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03:40<FakeBoost>I can't install partition manager with synaptic, it says no space left on device.
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03:41<somiaj>do you have little memeory on the device, I haven't ran into that issue before
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03:41<somiaj>but you may have cfdisk or gparted already on the system and use that instead
03:41<FakeBoost>searching...
03:43<somiaj>I haven't played around with live images that much so I only know the basics of what needs to be done
03:43<FakeBoost>I run alt+F2 and there's no gparted nor cfdisk.I type in terminal and no result.
03:44<planetmaker>not really much. It should work to just dd that iso onto the target device
03:44<FakeBoost>planet?
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03:44<somiaj>FakeBoost: try to apt-get install cfdisk (it should be smaller than partition manager and all the gnome stuff it might need)
03:44<planetmaker>at least for me it worked to create a boot stick by dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/usbstick
03:45<somiaj>planetmaker: he already has the iso on the disk, and cp works just fine for that task.
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03:45<FakeBoost>ok
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03:46<FakeBoost>i can't run apt-get, it says dpkg error, and when i type dpkg --configure -a it says again no space left on device.
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03:46<planetmaker>aye
03:47<somiaj>FakeBoost: try and run apt-get clean
03:47<FakeBoost>ok
03:47<somiaj>FakeBoost: the amount of space you have is dependent on your ram and my guess is you tried to download a lot of gnome packages with partition manager
03:48<FakeBoost>i just wanted to download the manager...
03:48<FakeBoost>sob haha
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03:49<FakeBoost>so far it seems it's better to have another partition working with full persistence, if i can't download a small package.
03:49<somiaj>FakeBoost: well then shut it down and set up the home and rw partition from your other machine.
03:49<FakeBoost>just now is downloadin cfdisk
03:49<somiaj>FakeBoost: I didn't realize you would have such limited space
03:49<FakeBoost>so, first i ll try that
03:50<FakeBoost>it's an acer aspire one netbook
03:50<somiaj>FakeBoost: but you have lxde, partition manager might pull in tons of gnome libs you don't have installed and yoru limited ram just wasn't enough.
03:50<FakeBoost>so i just do a full persistence and that's all?
03:51<somiaj>correct, you'll want to make two partitions with ext2 file systems, live-rw and live-home (or what ever it said you shouyld call it)
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03:51<somiaj>and then boot with the persistance option
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03:52<FakeBoost>, so, now i have to do this again...
03:52<FakeBoost>i'll power off the live debian now..
03:52<Bungofant>do it again and again *sing*
03:53<somiaj>FakeBoost: shouldn't have to recopy the image ove,r just set up the two partitions and then reboot it
03:53<FakeBoost>set up with another machine, you mean?
03:54<FakeBoost>but you said that the iso would destroy all partitions...
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03:57<somiaj>FakeBoost: but then I said you create the ones you want after that
03:57<somiaj>FakeBoost: so now create some more partitoins on the remainder of the drive
03:57<FakeBoost>ok
03:57<FakeBoost>good
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03:57<FakeBoost>mm this machine is not detecting the pen drive...
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04:17<FakeBoost>somiaj, all this time trying to detect the pen drive with no success...
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04:18<somiaj>FakeBoost: not sure what to do there, plug it into a differnet usb port. This is the same usb port you pluged it into in the first place
04:18<FakeBoost>it is
04:18<somiaj>FakeBoost: and by 'trying to detect' what do you mean, what is the output of 'dmesg | tail' after you plug the drive in
04:18<somiaj>you can put that output at paste.debian.net
04:20<FakeBoost> paste.debian.net/101653
04:20<FakeBoost>also if i type lsblk it is listed
04:20<FakeBoost>so it is awkward
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04:23<somiaj>FakeBoost: looks like it detected the pen drive just fine, and it is called /dev/sdb
04:23<somiaj>FakeBoost: now make soem more partitions on that drive
04:24<FakeBoost>ok
04:25<FakeBoost>You said earlier that i should make two more partitions, live-rw and home-rw, with that you mean i should have both systems?
04:26<somiaj>FakeBoost: That seems to be what would most suit you
04:26<FakeBoost>the first would be full persistence and the second home automounting
04:26<somiaj>correct
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04:26<FakeBoost>ok, son in total i 'd have 3 partitions, first, the debian live, and then 2 more partitions.
04:27<somiaj>correct, but the first partition is already there and working so you only need to add the second two
04:27<FakeBoost>good
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04:36<grummund>Hi, i'm playing with initramfs, can anyone tell me what happens to filesystems during initramfs phase?
04:38<grummund>say /dev/loop0 is mounted as /foo, the loop device resource remains busy after boot but the mount point is gone.
04:38<FakeBoost>somiaj, how do i know which partition it uses for persistent settings, packages install and all??
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04:39<somiaj>FakeBoost: by the label you give the ext2 filesystem you put on it
04:40<somiaj>FakeBoost: but they will be numbered in order sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 <-- so 2 or 3 is one, your choice
04:41<FakeBoost>I don't understand...
04:41<FakeBoost>sdb2 and 3 are ext2...
04:41<FakeBoost>also it says i should make a file...
04:41<FakeBoost>i didnt make it...
04:42<FakeBoost>oh no, it's for another option...
04:42<FakeBoost>i don't have to make the file
04:42<somiaj>do you mean file or filesystem. You need to make the filesystem after you create a partition
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04:43<FakeBoost>i used gparted, so it made the file system to ext2...Done.
04:43<somiaj>did set the filesystem label with gparted to?
04:43<FakeBoost>Now I will try to install skype, remember the wifi settings, and reboot to check if it is persistent.
04:44<FakeBoost>yes i did
04:44<somiaj>rember to boot with the persistance option
04:45<FakeBoost>there was no option
04:45<FakeBoost>at least that i could see
04:45<FakeBoost>maybe i have to reboot before applying changes
04:45<FakeBoost>i'll reboot now
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04:45<somiaj>no you have to type the option in I belive
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04:46<FakeBoost>where?
04:46<FakeBoost>somiaj?
04:46<FakeBoost>i have this options live (486 or failsafe, 686, pae pae failsafe,) and install graphical install and advanced options
04:47<FakeBoost>no persistence option
04:47<gmarselis>hm. is it ok to package GPLed utilities that operate on non-GPLed software? I have a bunch of utilities for the IBM storage manager, and I would like to offer it as a .deb package.
04:47<somiaj>gmarselis: that is what contrib is for
04:48<gmarselis>ah! ok!
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04:48<gmarselis>thank you!
04:48<gmarselis>ok, back to LARTing users.
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04:51<FakeBoost>somiaj, in the tutorial you gave me it reads : "...require a special boot parameter to be specified at boot time: persistent."
04:51<FakeBoost>But it doesn't say how to change that parameter.
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04:56<somiaj>I'd have to boot up a live image to rember what button to hit, but during the boot process when you areselecting the boot options you can just get a prompt and type it in I belive
04:56<FakeBoost>there's a tab option
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04:57<FakeBoost>tab option to edit a menu entry
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04:58<FakeBoost>i press tab and it shows some boot files, like vmlinuz, quiet splash nouveau, initrd...
04:58<FakeBoost>somiaj
05:00<somiaj>I don't have time to test how to get the prompt to enter it in, but it is there
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05:01<FakeBoost>ok
05:01<FakeBoost>thank you somiaj!
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05:01<somiaj>it is a kernel boot paramter i belive
05:01<FakeBoost>maybe...
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05:12<Alia5>sup? i wanna update gnome3 to something newer than 3.8X... recommended? possible?
05:12<Alia5>google cant help much
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07:41<grummund>Hi, using xfce (or command line) what's the recommended method to configure WiFi connections?
07:44<koxbox>wicd
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07:50<grummund>koxbox: thank you
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07:54*grummund did "/etc/init.d/dbus reload" and "/etc/init.d/wicd start"
07:54<grummund>but wicd says No wireless networks found
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07:55<grummund>'iwlist scan' says: wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
07:55<Brigo>grummund, and iwconfig?
07:56<grummund>iwconfig says: wlan0 IEEE 802.11abg ESSID:off/any Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated ...
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08:01<grummund>wicd is running - http://paste.debian.net/101674/
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08:04<babilen>grummund: network-manager works perfectly fine on XFCE and I would, in fact, recommend to use that. wicd development had slowed significantly in the past and even was short of being completely abandoned. Ever since I wouldn't necessarily recommend it anymore.
08:05<babilen>I guess that you want network-manager-gnome for nm-applet on XFCE
08:05<abrotman>is wifi-radar still being developed?
08:05<grummund>babilen: thanks. did you look at the pastebin? is my problem with wicd or more fundamental than that?
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08:20<grummund>Applications Menu --> Settings --> Network Connections.
08:21<grummund>is that the network-manager front end?
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08:34<grummund>[ 2105.292587] iwl3945 0000:0c:00.0: firmware: failed to load iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode (-2)
08:34<grummund>hmm :-(
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08:36<babilen>grummund: You have to activate that interface if you want to use it for scanning. "ip link wlan0 up" and you also need firmware for that device. Activate contrib and non-free sources in your sources.list and install firmware-iwlwifi
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08:38<grummund>babilen: thanks. i think the missing firmware has a lot to do with it :-P
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08:54<babilen>grummund: It does, yeah :)
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09:17<grummund>wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:14:85:xx:xx:xx by local choice (reason=3)
09:17<grummund>this is my problem now ^
09:18*grummund speculates that the driver wants a kernel option to be supplied
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09:21<grummund>cfg80211: Regulatory domain changed to country: JP
09:21<grummund>the smoking gun ^
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10:01<Blah>hello?
10:01<Blah>hello?
10:01<Blah>anyone on?
10:01<Blah>IDENTIFY
10:01<babilen>Blah: What can we do for you?
10:02<Blah>just checking out these apps
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10:02<Blah>This is running on my flash drive, just seeing if XChat still works
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10:02<babilen>Blah: Well, this is a technical support channel for Debian so please use a different channel for testing or chatting. (e.g. #moocows on this network)
10:02<Blah>Ah. Sorry.
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10:03<babilen>Blah: Have fun :)
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10:03<Blah>exit
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10:41<lamb>hello guys!!!
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11:17<debianPyDude>Hello guyz, i try my chance here after failing in #python : i'm using debian wheezy with python 3.2
11:18<debianPyDude>i can't install in my virtualenv (with pip) gevent-websocket : http://oftcpython.privatepaste.com/42183dc760
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11:21<somiaj>I would try #python on say irc.freenode.net as it might get better help, but really not the place to support things installed outside of your debian packages
11:21<somiaj>only thing I could think of is could python be defaulting to python2.7 and not 3.2 causing the invalid syntax/errors in those .py files?
11:21<somiaj>(or maybe visa versa)
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11:25<debianPyDude>ok thanks somiaj
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11:35<Kuba>hey guys, any iproute2 and policy routing guru here? I'm trying to set up policy routing for multiple interfaces; I got traceroute -i DEV working, but ping -I DEV is malfunctioning
11:35<Kuba>ping -I IP_DEV works though...
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12:04<emmabuntus>..
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12:05<sney>Kuba: try #netfilter on freenode
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12:12<Kuba>sney: thanks
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12:40<keep>oitudo bem
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12:41<fektom>hi all
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12:50<juanantonio>install search
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13:16<kush>HI
13:16<kush>EVERY ONE
13:16-!-hele_ [~hele@212-149-220-192.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
13:17<kush>WHICH ONE IS THE BEST LINUX OS DEPENDING UP ON DEBIAN ADDITION
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13:17<centrx>!caps
13:17<dpkg>Don't write words all in capital letters unless they're abbreviations. To emphasize words, put an underscore ("_") on both sides.
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13:18<kush>OK
13:18<kush>NO PROBLEM
13:18<kush>CENTRXDPKG
13:18<kush>SO SORRY
13:18<kush>FORGIVE ME
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14:51<pngo>when I try to access device/phone via ssh I get 'Permission denied (publickey).' but ssh works if I ssh from phone to computer? any ideas?
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14:54<sney>sounds like the sshd on the phone has some restrictive settings
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15:00<charlie0x>hello
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17:38<ph0b0s>i got a linux box that acts as file server + gateway + some other things and if i resync my raid array i lose my network. i suspect that resync locks my filesystem and dhcp relies on writing the records on the disks. is that corect?
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17:39<sney>likely
17:40<sney>well, not the dhcp part, since dhcp has nothing to do with active connections
17:40<ph0b0s>i've seen warning messages of mysql time outs due to the resync that's why i suspect
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17:40<sney>but it's probably just using all of your available i/o
17:40<ph0b0s>ye even that
17:41<ph0b0s>oh forgot to mention that i'm using speedup settings in the resync
17:41<ph0b0s>so it really stresses the disks
17:42<sney>is that a md array?
17:43<ph0b0s>yes
17:43<ph0b0s>raid5
17:43<sney>maybe if you had a hardware controller instead
17:43<ph0b0s>not in my plans :)
17:43<ph0b0s>but for the network i got pfsense in my plans :)
17:44<ph0b0s>so it's gonna get resolved eventually
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17:45<sney>I mean, you get something like this http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HP-Smart-Array-P400-512MB-SAS-SATA-RAID-Controller-Battery-Cables-447029-001-/111358464323?pt=US_Server_Disk_Controllers_RAID_Cards&hash=item19ed7b5143&_uhb=1 and then everything about your raid is better anyway
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17:47<ph0b0s>19$ ???
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17:47<sney>(just an example, compatibility not guaranteed, do your own research)
17:48<sney>but battery backed hardware raid always > software raid. even md, which is quite good.
17:48<ph0b0s>is that an actual raid controller? i don't get it
17:48<sney>yeah it is
17:48<sney>it's probably an older model, might not support whatever the max sata speed is now.
17:49<ph0b0s>my problem with hw raid is importing the array to a differnt system in case the controller goes poof
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17:50<sney>keep backups (raid is not backup) / buy a spare controller, etc
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17:52<ph0b0s>i'll try resync with the default parameters and maybe it won't freeze
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17:52<ph0b0s>already have offline backup an old 939 lol
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18:56<lwp>Looking for suggestions to debug a wheezy boot that hangs after "Booting the kernel."
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18:57<sheijuro>hi
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19:11<sheijuro>hi
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19:56<topcyde>My hardrive is full and decided to replace it. I just need to copy out the /home/username directory to retain all my files and such correct?
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20:07<Brigo>topcyde, if you save then into /home/username, then yes.
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20:08<Brigo>s/then/them
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20:10<topcyde>okay just wanted to make sure that i wouldn't be missing anything that is located somewhere else. I'm not completely intimate with the linux file structure and placement
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20:10<wompa>topcyde, that's about the only place "username" has write access, unless you added (or just modified) a directory outside it and modified its permission and put files there. And there's configuration files for services in /etc you might wanna save. If you are just a regular desktop user you might not have done much configuration in /etc though.
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20:12<topcyde>only to mate up some hardware specific problems. very little, and I know where the directions are for them. Thank you.
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20:16<Brigo>!tell topcyde about things to backup
20:16<nevyn>topcyde: if you're re-installing. consider using lvm to make /home seperate from the system
20:16<nevyn>topcyde: also dpkg --get-selections might be useful
20:18<Brigo>!tell topcyde about debian clone
20:18<Brigo>!tell topcyde about reinstall
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20:20<topcyde>Yes I will definitely use lvm. that was stupid not to have before. As far as packages go I have package clutter that I'd like to get rid of so I'm going to do a more simple install this time.
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21:18<newbage>so, can anyone help?
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21:19<sney>!anyone
21:19<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
21:21<newbage>this is my screen when I boot Debian http://i.imgur.com/5nkoNAP.jpg
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21:22<newbage>it just freezes once it gets there
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21:23<newbage>is that specific enough?
21:23<sney>what debian version, what hardware, etc? is this a fresh install or did you change something before this happened? give as many details as you can because we are not at your computer with you
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21:25<newbage>I ran a netinst on my MacBook Pro 8.2 Debian 7.5 fresh install but I've updated the apt source file to firmware Linux nonfree and I've installed b43 for my wireless card
21:26<newbage>also, I set my Radeon Kms file value to 0
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21:27<gabriel_>someone besides me with this problems installing 3.14 kernel in debian wheezy??
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21:28<newbage>would you like more info?
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21:34<sney>newbage: did you disable kms to try to fix this? or?
21:35<sney>also, I assume you installed a desktop environment - what's probably happening is X is trying to start but it's not detecting the right modes for your gpu
21:36<sney>an Xorg.0.log would confirm this, if you can get into the system, through rescue mode or whatever
21:37<lwp>sney: newbage disappeared already....
21:37<sney>ah indeed
21:37<sney>oh well
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21:56<el>hola
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21:57<el>hola alguien me ve
21:58<el>hola erosovrana
21:58<sney>!es
21:58<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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23:58<MichaelPaoli>Anyone know correct syntax for fuse.zfs in /etc/fstab ? - seems to end up using /sbin/mount.fuse --> /sbin/zfs but with syntax zfs(8) doesn't like.
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