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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-06-01

---Logopened Sun Jun 01 00:00:42 2014
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00:07<John[Lisbeth]>So I has another question
00:08<John[Lisbeth]>I am running linux mint debian edition, which is an up to six month old "snapshot" of debian testing
00:08<John[Lisbeth]>And I am considering switching my repos to debian testing but I have been informed this is a dangerous thing to do
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00:10<ncl>It is, you can end up with broken/mixed packages and a very confused apt
00:15<sleser>how long is suport for debian 7.5 ?
00:18<themill>sleser: 7.5 will turn into 7.6 in a couple of months. Debian 7 will be supported for at least another couple of years
00:18<themill>dpkg: tell sleser about lifespan
00:18<sleser>thanks
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01:11<guymann>hi
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03:05<davcri>hi :) which are the default GPU drivers on debian? open or proprietary ones ?
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03:15<ncl>guh, I've made an acpi script to turn off the screen on my laptop when I hit the screenlock button, but the screen wakes back up about a minute later
03:16<ncl>I've kind of ruled out that it's the trackpad getting input; I've done `modprobe -r psmouse` and even tried clicking and moving the mouse while the monitor was off and nothing happened, yet about a minute later, it still woke up
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05:37<[UP]Crystal>I installed sec.update DSA-2939-1 for Chromium browser last night and now flash-plugin does not work
05:37<[UP]Crystal>It even not showed in chrome://plugins
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05:38<[UP]Crystal>Already tried to reinstall chromium and flashplugin-nonfree packages
05:38<[UP]Crystal>Does anybody know what happens?
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05:43<skribblezatcha>chromium uses the pepperflash plugin i believe [UP]Crystal. which isnt the same flash as say firefox would use.
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05:44<[UP]Crystal>both: iceweasel and chromium used flashplugin-nonfree before as I know
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05:45<[UP]Crystal>but maybe I'm wrong... not sure
05:45<skribblezatcha>ummm..did you try to copy and paste libflashplayer.so in to where it should be [UP]Crystal..in chrome/plugins?
05:45<skribblezatcha>i thought that chromium used pepperflash, the flash from google chrome. i could be wrong too though.
05:46<[UP]Crystal>No, I didn't tried to copy-paste.
05:48<skribblezatcha>you can maybe try that [UP]Crystal..but let me do a search online and see what flash chromium uses real quick. one sec.
05:49<[UP]Crystal>I paste libflashplayer.so into /usr/lib/chromium/plugins , but chromium still does not see it
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05:52<skribblezatcha>ok [UP]Crystal. i think that i have found something. :) here is a link http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/flash-player-chromium.html
05:52<skribblezatcha>if you dont understand what is there [UP]Crystal let me know, i think that i do.
05:54<regno>Hi, is it possible to build a kernel packages with "make deb-pkg" to be used a on several non-identical systems?
05:57<valdyn>regno: of course
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05:59<[UP]Crystal>skribblezatcha: Thanks for the link, but they recommend to download the package with same libflashplayer.so and paste it into /usr/......
05:59<[UP]Crystal>I guess this will not work
05:59<[UP]Crystal>Looks like chromium just would not see that plugin for some reason...
06:00<skribblezatcha>no [UP]Crystal. open chromium and tell me when its opened please.
06:00<[UP]Crystal>opened
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06:01<skribblezatcha>ok now in the address bar type: about:plugins and hit enter and tell me when you have done that please.
06:01<[UP]Crystal>done
06:01<[UP]Crystal>I already checked that
06:01<[UP]Crystal>And I can see there only "Chromoting Viewer"
06:01<[UP]Crystal>no more plugins
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06:02<skribblezatcha>do you see the details at the upper right corner of the page [UP]Crystal?
06:02<[UP]Crystal>Sure, and clicked on it
06:02<[UP]Crystal>only one plugin: "Chromoting Viewer"
06:02<skribblezatcha>you see dont see flash or shockwave flash in there?
06:02<skribblezatcha>o wow..i see. wait as sec [UP]Crystal.
06:03<[UP]Crystal>Here is screenshot http://storage5.static.itmages.com/i/14/0601/h_1401617084_5455440_2fc9e5b018.png
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06:05<skribblezatcha>you have the flash-nonfree package installed too huh?
06:05<skribblezatcha>flashplugin-nonfree*
06:05<[UP]Crystal>sure, it installed
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06:06<[UP]Crystal>I already tried to reinstall it and chromium as well
06:06<[UP]Crystal>And it was fine before update
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06:07<skribblezatcha>yeah, thats deep [UP]Crystal. i dont get that either. i dont use chromium though, i use iceweasel.
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06:07<skribblezatcha>well iceweasel and midori.
06:07<[UP]Crystal>I use them both at a time and I need both with flashplugin. Iceweasel works fine.
06:08<[UP]Crystal>But Chromium don't wont to see that plugin for some reason...
06:08<skribblezatcha>right i know what you mean.
06:08<[UP]Crystal>strange...
06:08<skribblezatcha>indeed.
06:09<[UP]Crystal>Will try fresh install in virtualbox and will see if it will work there...
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06:10<skribblezatcha>[UP]Crystal: copy libflashplayer.so into /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
06:10<skribblezatcha>wait, try that first please [UP]Crystal.
06:10<[UP]Crystal>[12:49:55] <[UP]Crystal> I paste libflashplayer.so into /usr/lib/chromium/plugins , but chromium still does not see it
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06:11<skribblezatcha>is there a chromium-browser folder?
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06:11<[UP]Crystal>nope, only "chromium"
06:11<skribblezatcha>ok i see..
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06:12<[UP]Crystal>For example my other computer with jessue works fine and in chromium mentioned plugin in /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so
06:13<skribblezatcha>right, i know what you mean.
06:13<regno>valdyn, I've been getting some sort of version magic problems when I've tried to install a kernel package compiled on another system. How could this be fixed?
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06:14<skribblezatcha>to use default settings when compiling the kernel regno?
06:15<skribblezatcha>see i am using apt-pinning over this way [UP]Crystal..so.
06:15<[UP]Crystal>Also just checked wheezy without updates, it use /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
06:15<regno>is it possible to change anything? I'm compiling a grsecurity kernel and chaning things like image compression algorithm
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06:16<skribblezatcha>what uses that [UP]Crystal?
06:16<[UP]Crystal>Chromium, but without last update
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06:17<skribblezatcha>i dont know regno..but what i mean is this. if you are compiling something it becomes system specific. so you need to take that in to consideration when wanting to compile a kernel that can be universally used on all systems that accept a .deb package. that goes for anything that you compile.
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06:17<skribblezatcha>so to change certain things on one system doesnt mean that it will work on another system, because those same depends may not be there.
06:17<skribblezatcha>ok i see [UP]Crystal.
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06:18<skribblezatcha>is it symlinked to that or something [UP]Crystal?
06:19<[UP]Crystal>no
06:19<skribblezatcha>because what does that have to do with /usr/lib/chromium/plugins?
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06:19<skribblezatcha>does that path still exist before the update?
06:20<[UP]Crystal>yes, it exists
06:20<skribblezatcha>and after?
06:20<[UP]Crystal>same
06:20<skribblezatcha>ok.
06:20<regno>I'm afraid I'm still not completely clear. How could I compile kernel deb packages on a desktop system and installing them on a virtual machine?
06:20<skribblezatcha>those are two different systems. once again when compiling a kernel its system specific regno.
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06:21<skribblezatcha>to change things to meet one systems hardware isnt going to work on a different system.
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06:22<skribblezatcha>when you go and upgrade a kernel for ubuntu..there are precompiled kernels..as well as the header packages for each kernel. those precompiled kernels are "bulked" because they have everything needed within them to run on almost anything.
06:22<regno>But what I do, is simply copy the debian default .config file and use that. So the configuration should be pretty much identical?
06:22<skribblezatcha>did you also compile the headers for each kernel regno?
06:22<regno>yes
06:22<skribblezatcha>ok cool..
06:22<skribblezatcha>not necessarily..you would think so but its not always that way.
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06:23<skribblezatcha>what error are you getting when trying to install it in the VM..and have you tried installing it without copying and pasting anything first?
06:24<regno>I need to get back to you on that, I can't completely remember. What do you mean by copying and pasting anything?
06:25<skribblezatcha>you mentioned copying the debian default .config file and using that.
06:25<skribblezatcha>that .config folder man isnt necessarily anything other than settings for apps to be honest.
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06:28<regno>we're talking about /boot/config-*-amd64, right?
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06:30<skribblezatcha>o ok, no i wasnt. sorry regno.
06:30<skribblezatcha>i would try booting the new kernel without copying that first.
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06:31<regno>what I do is I use that file to compile the kernel, like "cp /boot/config-* <src_dir>/.config"
06:32<skribblezatcha>ok..
06:33<skribblezatcha>yeah i dont know regno.
06:34<regno>I should've had the errors written down, sorry about that
06:34<skribblezatcha>its all good. good luck with getting it to work though.
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06:34<regno>thanks for your help!
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06:35<skribblezatcha>yw.
06:37<[UP]Crystal>Just did a fresh install of wheezy and same issue with chromium... So looks it's a bug in last update...
06:37<[UP]Crystal>Or maybe it's a feature)
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06:58<wardhan>does setting echo 'export PATH="$HOME/.rbenv/bin:$PATH"' >> ~/.bash_profile for rebenv ensures that i can use ruby as local user ? or do i need to specify anything extra ?
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07:24<luca_>ciao
07:24<luca_>ci sei
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07:24<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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07:35<claw_>hello i have a problem with g++
07:35<claw_>when compiling it says g++: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory
07:36<claw_>but /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8.2/cc1plus exists
07:37-!-mode/#debian [+l 683] by debhelper
07:37<claw_>i tried purging gcc g++ but does not help
07:37<claw_>anyone knows how to fix that ?
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07:45<DrZaius>claw_: strace can tell you exact paths that programs are looking for
07:45<DrZaius> -e file
07:46<claw_>DrZaius, i guess i found something
07:46<claw_>which g++ points to /usr/local/lib/cw/g++ while whereis points to /usr/bin/g++
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07:58<p4r4n01d>hi
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08:01<p4r4n01d>does anyone know a harddrive encryption which runs with linux and windows != truecrypt?
08:01<p4r4n01d>(for dual boot use on my notebook)
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08:27<Guest12253>buen dia
08:27<Guest12253>alguien sabe como instalar drivers nvidia en debian?
08:28<supaman>!es
08:28<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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10:20<FakeBoost>Hello, whats the included partition manager in wheezy LXDE? I want to format a floppy...with GUI.
10:20<abrotman>Isn't there one in Thunar?
10:21<FakeBoost>thunar. what is that?
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11:01<tcurtis_>According to this http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mate-team/Week-of-Mon-20140526/000962.html
11:02<tcurtis_>... changes to this package has been accepted to backports. Yet I don't see the package in backports.
11:02<tcurtis_>Is there a staging area that it resides in before being accepted or something?
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11:02<tcurtis_>s/has/have/
11:03<ompaul>mirrors are refreshed within 6 hours
11:03<ompaul>as long as they are working
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11:03<tcurtis_>Ah. Ok cool. Thanks.
11:03<ompaul>however being accepted
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11:03<ompaul>is one thing
11:04<ompaul>but long life and mate ... that's going to be interesting
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11:04<tcurtis_>Sorry. Long life?
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11:05<ompaul>consider it a fork of gnome2
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11:05<ompaul>so anyone who takes that on has to take on the security for that
11:06<tcurtis_>Right.
11:06<ompaul>and all which that implies
11:07<tcurtis_>Apparently, the next release will be gtk3.g. There seems to be interest behind it, but I get what you're sayin
11:07<tcurtis_>g
11:07<tcurtis_>Thanks.
11:07<ompaul>so I'm saying don't wed your personality to the desktop, use whatever feeds your needs on any one day
11:08<tcurtis_>gotcha
11:08<ompaul>as with everything in life - things are not you - end philosophy 101 ;-)
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11:32<newbage>hey is there a debian channel for just learning things?
11:33<newbage>like, for people who are new to linux/debian
11:33<newbage>?
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11:34<Brigo>as far as i know, not, sorry, newbage
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11:38<abrotman>newbage: this is it
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11:44<gyx>this one is a little different, as it's specifically for debian-related questions
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11:46<newbage>ok, I though this was more for tech support/troubleshooting for debian
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11:49<newbage>now that I got things up and running, I want to really dive in and learn
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11:50<dvs>newbage: No, what you want to do is back everything up in case things get messed up.
11:50<newbage>dvs: ha! good call
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11:52<newbage>is there a way to back up the exact configuration of my install so that I don't have to go through the pain of reconfiguring during a reinstall?
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11:53<spippi>hia at all
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11:54<dvs>newbage: I'd just clonezilla the whole drive.
11:55<spippi>please can you help me? i have a wheezy with lxde, where is the setting for hybernate, suspend or stand by mode? for example if i have a little power of battery i prefer that pc go in hybernate
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12:34<Cooper>Anyone happen to know if metasploit is in the debian repository of if there is another framework in the repo that is equivalent to it?
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12:35<mtn>Cooper: http://packages.debian.org
12:36<Cooper>Mtn thank you
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12:36<mtn>Cooper: yw
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12:42<ivanovic>hey,, how can i extract my rar files such as : a.part1.rar a.part2.rar ... a.part(n).rar
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12:44<towo`>with unrar
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12:45<ivanovic>thx a lot babe
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12:45<ivanovic>towo:.. was a very clean and perfect answer!!
12:45<ivanovic>:-)
12:46<ivanovic>ihave tried it but i doesn't work
12:46<ivanovic>!
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12:47<towo`>doesn't work sayes nothing
12:48<victory>note that old unrar may unable to extract rar archives created by a new version
12:49<ivanovic>well it open the files ! show them but when you extract it , it only gives you empty folders
12:50<towo`>show your used command
12:50<towo`>and btw, have you installed unrar or unrar-free?
12:53<ivanovic>I used the GUI of the Xarchiever
12:53<ivanovic>i wonder if you tell the commands :|
12:54<towo`>xarchiver != using unrar
12:54<towo`>so use unrar on a terminal
12:54<musca> "unrar-free" in main cannot extract RAR3 archives.
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12:57<ivanovic>may I ask what's the commands ? :| (new user)
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13:11<l0x>I need to change NVIDIA kernel module version (upgrade). heelp please
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13:13<musca>l0x: the preferred method for keeping modules up to date is: dkms
13:14<l0x>sgfxi CLI util to install Nvidia driver. It installs 173.14.39, I need .40
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13:15<musca>l0x: then you need to ask in #smxi
13:16<ivanovic>ok thanks :)
13:16<ivanovic>wrong chat:|
13:16<l0x>THANK YOU musca. Have a GOOD day
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13:39<dodj>Hi I have a problem - my computer locks up on boot after installing debian. The installation works fine, and I have been able to boot the ubuntu live-cd, but when I try to boot from debian on the hard drive the kernel crashes (after about 2 seconds). How do I get useful information to diagnose the problem?
13:40<dodj>note: the last line in the console is something like vgaarb: device change decodes: PCI:000:00:02.0,olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=none:owns-none
13:40<Brigo>dodj, well, i thin if the kernel crashes, you have to get another one.
13:41<sney>does single-user/rescue mode work?
13:41<dodj>This computer boots windows no probs
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13:41<dodj>This is in recovery mode both with and without video=vesa:off video=efifb:off vga=normal
13:41<Brigo>dodj, and the debian installer and ubunut boot rescue, so the problem should be the installed kernel
13:42<dodj>yes - so I need to build a kernel (I'll dig out my gentoo livecd). Can I make the kernel very verbose (lots of printk) so I can see the problem
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13:42<Brigo>dodj, you can try to play with the parameters in grub menu
13:43<Brigo>dodj, do some google about your hardware and kernel problems.
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13:43<dodj>what kinds of things could I try - it's hard because I don't even know which piece of hardware is causing the problem
13:43<dodj>ok thanks I'll try
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13:46<dodj>any very basic debian kernels I could try?
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13:49<newbage>so, I understand what non-free refers to but what is the difference between that and contrib ?
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13:50<newbage>…in terms of sources.list
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13:53<jmcnaught>newbage: i consulted with the oracle, and got a response: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html
13:54<musca>!contrib
13:54<dpkg>[contrib] Debian packages that contain <DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main (possibly packaged for Debian in non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ [wheezy|squeeze|jessie] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then «aptitude update». Also ask me about <non-free>, <contrib list>.
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13:59<newbage>jmcnaught: that's an excellent link, thanks!
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14:01<serpardum>I have built in audio and USB audio and my audio defaults to the built in audio. In KDB I can change it but I want to do it system wide, mostly because I play Minecraft which uses Java not KDE. I am set to change the default sound device in alsa.conf but does java use alsa? Or is there a better recommended way to do this?
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14:04<serpardum>Er, I meant KDE. KDB is a club my wife and I go to (Kitchen Den Bar)
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14:07<serpardum>I also have a second unrelated issue that I think no one will know. My debian computer sometimes locks up when booting. I see the mouse in bottom right quarter of screen and I can't move it. This happens sometimes, and doesn't seem to happen if I move the mouse as it boots. Maybe related, sometimes when my computer goes into screensaver/lock mode I can't wake it up and have to hard boot it.
14:09<petn-randall>serpardum: Regarding your first point, it depends if you use ALSA or also pulseaudio, and if minecraft uses OSS/Alsa/pulseaudio for audio output.
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14:10<petn-randall>serpardum: 2) Does it hard lock up? I.e. can you change to VT1 by pressing ctrl+alt+F1?
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14:11<serpardum>I have not tried that petn-randall, I will try the next time I boot it.
14:11<serpardum>that was reguarding your 2nd
14:12<serpardum>as to your first, let me see if I can look in the minecraft boot log and determine what it uses.
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14:12<serpardum>Is there a way to change the order in which the bootloader loads the sound drivers so that the USB is 0 and Intel 1 instead of vice-versa?
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14:15<serpardum>All the log shows me is it uses OpenAL
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14:19<serpardum>You know, I think I might just disable the built in audio in the BIOS then I won't have to change anything in software.
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14:43<booger>W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 8B48AD6246925553 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org>
14:43<booger> How do i Fix the problem?
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14:49<karl>hi, i want to set up a tap ssh tunnel to forward a public ip to my mail server, similar to http://www.bertera.it/index.php/2012/03/04/how-to-push-a-public-ip-on-your-laptop-using-ssh-bridged-tunnel/
14:49<karl>i have two ip-addresses at the remote vserver, so i would like to bridge one of the ip's with the tap0 that i connect by ssh
14:49<karl>however, every time i do brctl addif br0 eth0 i lose my ssh connection which runs through eth0
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14:51<karl>i tried with eth0:1 or with a separate virtual interface, still whenever i add eth0 to the bridge it cuts my ssh terminal connection
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14:51<karl>is there any way of doing this ?
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15:04<ixi>whats the easy/standard way to configure inboxes on a personal email server (exim4) ? /etc/aliases ?
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15:09<maxb>ixi: You mention Exim, but really your questions has a lot more to do with how your users read the mail, than how the mail is transferred
15:11<ixi>maxb the user is me
15:12<ixi>the mail is read by emacs from a maildir
15:14<maxb>So you just want to change Exim's local delivery from the default of mbox to maildir, then?
15:14<DrZaius>i have a sub class like Class Peer: how can i instanciate it? .new() yields identifir not found: Peer
15:14<DrZaius>opsi, wrong window
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15:15<ixi>maxb I want a mail address thats different from uxix-login-name@hostname
15:15<DrZaius>i have a sub class like Class Peer: how can i instanciate it? .new() yields identifir not found: Peer
15:15<ixi>i.e. someothername@hostname
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15:15<ixi>from what I've seen it's done in /etc/aliases
15:15<DrZaius>damn... weechat and his root chat window u.u
15:15<ixi>but I am wondering if it's the good way to do it
15:17<maxb>Hmm. Well, the first thing you need to know about exim4 on Debian is that Debian supplies a very complicated and Exim config that is designed to allow some flexibility by defining various macros to get various common-case results
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15:18<ixi>I saw those configs
15:18<live>y
15:18<maxb>This is typically helpful if you don't really want to understand Exim config yourself, but is monumentally UNHELPFUL if you actually do want to understand the details or do something truly custom, because it makes the config huge and confusing
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15:19<maxb>If you just want to point somelocalpart@existinghostname at someunixuser@existinghostname, then yes, /etc/aliases is the right place
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15:19<ixi>ok
15:19<ixi>that's all I want, thanks
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15:25<ixi>ok, another question: how to configure exim so that remote user can send email via it (using ssl, with login and password) ?
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15:33<Squ4lli>hello can someone help me? I cant get my wireless card work on my laptop, i've tried many things though
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15:35<chealer>!tell Squ4lli about doesn't work
15:35<musca>!wifi
15:35<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
15:36<Squ4lli>In fact, there is no card detected, using the iwconfig cmd. It's a realtek RTS5249 according lspci
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15:38<musca>Squ4lli: please fetch that line from: lspci -nn | grep -i net
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15:39<maxb>ixi: It's a bit more complicated than it needs to be, but if you're using the Debian exim4 config, your starting point is reading the /etc/exim4/passwd bit of 'man exim4_files'. You will also have to read and uncomment certain bits of /etc/exim4/conf.d/auth/30_exim4-config_examples
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15:42<ixi>thanks maxb I'll look there
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15:46<canaima_>hola vl como etsas que haesirihfeirthiorhio
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15:48<squall>it's me again. Here the output of the cmd :
15:48<squall>squall@Debian-Bastien-Portable:~$ lspci -nn | grep -i net
15:48<squall>03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E220x Gigabit Ethernet Controller [1969:e091] (rev 13)
15:48<squall>05:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 [8086:08b3] (rev 83)
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15:49<squall>im on jessie, nobody can help me?
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15:50<sney>you probably need firmwre
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15:50<squall>i think so
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15:51<squall>also, it works natively on ubuntu
15:51<squall>12.04
15:51<sney>,pciid 8086:08b3 --release sid
15:51<judd>[8086:08b3] is 'Wireless 3160' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'iwlwifi', 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:08b3 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi
15:51<sney>yep, iwlwifi, you need the firmware-iwlwifi package.
15:51<sney>it's not a question of "natively" it's just that ubuntu distributes the firmware with the system, despite the software freedom issues of doing so
15:52<squall>Ok i'll try to install firmware-iwlwifi.
15:52<squall>yes but i mean i don't do anything
15:52<squall>didn't*
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15:54<squall>now iwconfig return again no wireless extensions
15:54<squall>do i need to reboot?
15:55<sney>it is a good idea
15:55<squall>brb
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16:02<Squ4lli>thx you sney it worked !
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16:03<sney>!congratulate Squ4lli
16:03<dpkg>Hugs & Puppies Squ4lli, you did it!
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16:35<asbesto>hi, i don't seem to be able to set acl for a directory. i have to grant rwx permissions to user "mail", but swtching user to "mail" and trying to enter the directory results in permission denied
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16:39<asbesto>np solved... i tought setting default permission handled access to the directory too, but an access acl needs to be specified instead. thanks anyways.
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16:50<serpardum>Just an ancidote to support linux. This is an old pc that used to run XP and would not run Minecraft. So I decided to use it as a server, installed debian. Out of curiositity tried Minecraft and it runs. So I can run Minecraft on a computer with an older video card in debian where I couldn't in XP with all updates and latest video drivers.
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16:51<serpardum>sorry, w/c
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17:17<kilobyte>hi, is there a way to set an uninstalled package on hold, or do I need to resort to ugly equivs+conflicts tricks?
17:18<kilobyte>if I have package A:1 on hold, and unstable has A:2 that depends on B, dist-upgrade keeps installing B even though A:2 won't get installed
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18:32<guillermo>hola
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18:38<asbesto>hi all, i'm experiencing this: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2008-02/msg00142.html , i'd like an advice on how to consider this issue... is it normal?
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18:45<asbesto>hi all, i'm experiencing this: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2008-02/msg00142.html , i'd like an advice on how to consider this issue... is it normal?
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18:46<asbesto>ops sorry, i didn't mean to double-post
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18:54<towski>any good apps for recording parts of your desktop?
18:54<towski>recordmydesktop doesn't work well with my gnome anymore
18:54<towski>I can't stop it :(
18:55<waxhead>towski: how about VLC ?
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19:58<ncl>is there a config option in the kernel build config to just completely remove nmi watchdog
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20:17<bubbalumpy>?
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20:45<dotut>if i have an echo in .xinitrc
20:45<dotut>where does the output go?
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20:48<SamB>dotut: I bet you could find out by creative use of "ls -l /proc/self/fd"
20:48<SamB>or possibly lsof and/or fuser ...
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20:57<dotut>SamB: thanks for the tipe
20:57<dotut>*tip
20:57<dotut>found out i can use 'logger' shell command to log to syslog..works well
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21:19<topcyde>so I've somehow completely trashed my install of debian but can still get it to to but and I can login and do some things. However just about every application I run causes a segmentation fault now.
21:19<topcyde>HOw can I through command line clean up and do a fresh reinstall?
21:19<aidalgol>Is there a command to print a file's permissions in octal?
21:19<aidalgol>ls doesn't appear to have any option for that.
21:20<LtL>aidalgol: stat file
21:21<aidalgol>LtL: Thanks!
21:21<LtL>sure
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21:24<themill>aidalgol: btw stat has a format option that allows you to just get the info you want
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22:56<chealer>are other Iceweasel 29 able to duplicate and move tabs? I can't drag tabs anymore after upgrading from 24 on testing.
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22:56<chealer>s/29/29 users/
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23:07<gatuno>hi, I installed a wanna-build service and a buildd daemon, it's finally building. But some builds fails, I don't know why the build log is not in the wanna-build server,
23:07<gatuno>or how to make buildd send the log to the wanna-build server
23:07<gatuno>someone knows?
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23:10<gatuno>someone who knows how to configure the buildd daemon to send the build logs to the wanna-build server?
23:10<gatuno>or where are sotred the build logs in the wanna-build server?
23:11<gatuno>stored*
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23:13<gatuno>dpkg: where i can find debian?
23:13<dpkg>well, debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
23:13<gatuno>thanks dpkg
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23:13<gatuno>dpkg: where i can find ubuntu?
23:13<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
23:14<gatuno>awesome boot
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23:48<gatuno>dpkg: where i can find buildd?
23:48<dpkg>i heard buildd is Debian's automated build system that automatically compiles everything it finds. http://buildd.debian.org/ http://wiki.debian.org/buildd
23:49<sney>!msg the bot
23:49<dpkg>Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn more and browse my factoids on-line at http://ircbots.debian.net/ . If you're helping people, you can check that you have the right factoid before showing it to others.
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