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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-06-02

---Logopened Mon Jun 02 00:00:43 2014
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00:04<chealer>*ahem* restarting Iceweasel is all it took to fix tab dragging *ahem*
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00:08<sleser>guys a good mp3 player for debian will some one recomend whitch to get ?
00:09<sleser>vlc isnt doing a good job at it . not clear sound with vlc
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00:14<twb>Is it possible, and reasonable, to do these in dpkg.cfg.d instead of apt.conf.d? ==> DPkg::Pre-Invoke { "mount -oremount,rw /boot"; } DPkg::Post-Invoke { "mount -oremount,ro /boot"; }
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00:15<chealer>sleser: did you try juk?
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00:17<sleser>nope
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00:19<sleser>juk does equalization ?
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00:21<chealer>sleser: I'm not even sure what that is, but #kde may know better. juk has few features compared to Amarok
00:21<sleser>amaroc i for sure dont want it . too much internet activity . bhind my back thing it does
00:22<sleser>the kde chan is empty
00:23<chealer>sleser: I meant #kde on freenode
00:23<sleser>thanks
00:24<chealer>sleser: I'm confident you can get Amarok to behave as you want with configuration. you must have plugins enabled
00:24<chealer>it does come a little bloated by default
00:25<sleser>i like amaroc the only thing i dislike about it . it works like spyware or something . particular sins i notice all the internet activy on every mp3 i play
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00:25<sleser>if only i can disable that spyware within amaroc . it would be cool
00:27<chealer>sleser: I'd be very surprised if there was spyware in Amarok. I'm pretty sure that activity is optional and #amarok can help you disable it if you can't figure it out.
00:27<sleser> if i go ask amaroc they might not even help me
00:27<sleser>they might think im stupid or something
00:28<jmcnaught>sleser: you should spell it with a "k" not a "c" but i'm sure they'll be nice :)
00:28<themill>You'd do better asking them about the origin of the network activity rather than trying to tell them that it's spyware.
00:28<sleser>what ever orgin it is . im not g oing to like be there tracing it i just dont wana see it at all in iftop
00:29<sleser>to me its simply spyware if im playing a mp3 on my hd
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00:29<sleser>and seeing some sort of internet activity thats spyware . what ever it is .
00:29<sleser>its like beeing spyed on . if to define
00:29<themill>No, it's looking up information according to how you've configured your player.
00:29<sleser>ill give them a try and see
00:29<sleser>what they can help with
00:29<themill>If you don't want that, then change the configuration.
00:30<sleser>let me try it
00:30<chealer>sleser: unless you've already tried disabling stuff, it's probably just fetching lyrics
00:30<themill>or album art
00:30<sleser>i think its just the relate what i play to find ads for me to buy whats out there in t he store
00:30<sleser>but why do that at all. to begin with . i know whats in the store they have google for that when i need to find something
00:31<themill>sleser: whinging here will get you nowhere. You could do something constructive towards solving your problem though.
00:31<sleser>im going to
00:32<sleser>give it a try like chealer advised
00:32<sleser>brb
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01:33<sleser>guys is there sutch thing for debian . gstreamer
01:34<sleser>backend for amarok . to be able to use equalization future for amarok . vlc isnt doing it
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03:39<nocturnal>ran into a problem increasing a disk size of a wheezy VM in vsphere. I've done this once before so I already have one extended partition, and one logical. using lvm. so now I just expanded the virtual drive in vsphere, rebooted the guest, fdisk shows the new size but when I try to add a (n)ew (l)ogical partition I get the error "No free sectors available"
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03:42<nocturnal>http://paste.debian.net/102937/
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03:43<nocturnal>calculating the sectors * 512 I get 200G which is the correct size in the hypervisor.
03:44<nocturnal>old size was 150G
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03:51<jm_>why are you confused by the error - your logical drive extends to the end of the extended partition
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03:55<nocturnal>ok so I need to re-create the extended partition with a new end value.
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03:56<jm_>you need to resize that first if you have space yes
03:57<nocturnal>resize means delete and re-create with new end value in my experience.
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04:06<cousin_luigi>Greetings.
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04:07*cousin_luigi is using a debian-based livecd with console-tools installed: is it possible to change the console font without installing any other package?
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04:10<jm_>try looking in /etc/console-tools/config
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04:19<cousin_luigi>jm_: how do I reload the configuration?
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04:20<helmut_>hi
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04:22<jm_>cousin_luigi: invoke-rc.d console-screen.sh reload
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04:30<cousin_luigi>jm_: thanks
04:30<cousin_luigi>bblw
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06:01<m00se>hi, i'm experiencing this: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2008-02/msg00142.html , i'd like to know if this is the intended behaviour, since it has been reported in 2008 but still happening...
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06:07<ncl>m00se: the replied in the thread indicate that it might be something with umask or the fs, I don't know myself
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06:08<m00se>ncl: yes i have seen... making a subdir with "mkdir -m 777 -p <newdir>" works as intended... but i can't understand why it doesn't inherit acls
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06:10<Guest12027>Why might tar (running as root) say that my disk is full when there's lots free? The file system is btrfs which (to my knowledge) don't use inodes.
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06:12<jm_>that's one of the features of btrfs IIRC, it has some utils of its own which shall shed some light on the issue, see http://lwn.net/Articles/576276/
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06:12<voltagex>hi, both the stable and daily netboot installer are freezing after failing to load firmware
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06:15<m00se>ncl: do you think i should file a bug report? cosidering it has been already reported back in 2008, devs should have had all the time to fix it. maybe it's meant to work like this...
06:16<ompaul>m00se: is it still current on the current stable release?
06:17<m00se>ompaul: 12:01 < m00se> hi, i'm experiencing this: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2008-02/msg00142.html , i'd like to know if this is the intended behaviour, since it has been reported in 2008 but still happening...
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06:17<m00se>ompaul: i'm on jessie
06:20<ompaul>read the rest of the thread, they seem to think it is as it should be
06:20<ompaul>given you are now on version 8 I figure a 6. bug is fun
06:23<ompaul>and if you are going to run gnu-coreutils at least run a vm test the latest version from them compiled in there
06:24<ompaul>that is for reporting a bug on upstream
06:26<m00se>ompaul: yes i already read it, like you, i don't think an 8-years bug could still be there
06:26<ompaul>and if you read the rest they think the behaviour is normal
06:27<ompaul>so closing something on two versions back - what do you think people have time?
06:27<ompaul>;-)
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06:32<m00se>ompaul: anyways i can't spot where they think it's normal
06:32<ompaul>http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2008-02/msg00175.html
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06:34<m00se>actually it ends with a question...
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06:35<ompaul>and it is so old
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06:36<ompaul>if you want to file one do it right either once in debian, or on the real thing compiled in a vm for yourself for upstream
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06:40<m00se>ompaul: thanks... i imagine tons of experienced sysadmins never reported this, so it will not be me to report such a thing, being at my first experience with acls (really, i discovered them yesterday for the first time in my life :) )
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06:45<DrZaius>are you talking about cp not copying everything?
06:46<DrZaius>i was hitted by this bug when i try copying / from one partition to other and ping stopped working
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08:17<cinch>seems like Seamonkey (iceape) isnt available in testing?
08:18<cinch>o well
08:18<jm_>you mean iceape-browser?
08:18<cinch>yea
08:19<cinch>i see it on squeeze, but not in testing
08:19<jm_>http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceape.html
08:19<jm_>it has been removed from unstable a while ago
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09:01<m00se>do crontab jobs run if the user is not logged in but the system is up?
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09:01<themill>yes
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09:02<xiqsjvfy>As of the gnutls update to 2.12.20-8+deb7u2 this morning I get "SSL handshake failed" when I try to connect to my CalDAV server. What gives?
09:03<skribblezatcha>have you ever checked out iceweasel before cinch?
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09:07<cinch>skribblezatcha, im using iceweasel :P
09:07<cinch>was thinking of trying something more traditional after their UI change
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09:33<lynx>aaa
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09:33<lynx>alguem ai?
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09:38<SATAN>hi
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09:38<SATAN>hello
09:39<SATAN>it there have anybody
09:39<petn-randall>Hello SATAN, do you have a Debian support question?
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09:39<SATAN>not yet
09:39<SATAN>i m very new user for linux
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09:41<Ywka>hi
09:42<SATAN>hi
09:42<Ywka>Debian is true!
09:42<SATAN>:)
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09:43<petn-randall>SATAN: So you installed Debian Wheezy? Or you're considering to install it?
09:44<SATAN>sorry i don"t get it
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09:47<SATAN>yeap
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09:50<SATAN>petn-randall, u know i just try to type apt-get update
09:51<zathras>SATAN, if you have a working network config that should work
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09:52<SATAN>thank zathras
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09:52<zathras>but you will also probably want to run: apt-get upgrade
09:52<SATAN>sure
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09:53<SATAN>hay zathras, may i know, where r u from ?
09:53<zathras>babylon 5
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09:54<SATAN>i m a seaman, right now i m @ malaysia
09:55<inkbottle>inkbottle #debian-next Cannot join channel (+l)?
09:55<inkbottle>??
09:55<zathras>inkbottle, maybe you need to auth first
09:55<centrx>* Cannot join #debian-next (User limit reached).
09:55<zathras>ah
09:55<inkbottle>ok
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09:56<SATAN>i just want to know "how to use linix"
09:56<centrx>inkbottle, It's a bad setting on the channel. Maybe the bot is not working properly
09:56<centrx>SATAN, Turn it on and use it, all set
09:56<inkbottle>ok
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09:57<SATAN>thank
09:57<planetmaker>SATAN, there's no "how to use linux" - what should it contain?
09:57<inkbottle>thanks
09:57<centrx>inkbottle, You can ask here about testing/unstable if you like
09:57<centrx>inkbottle, Or try to join #debian-next again, I just got in
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09:58<planetmaker>well, probably there are some "get going" guides. Using one or the other desktop manager. With wheezy you likely want to have a look at gnome introduction
09:58<SATAN>yeap
09:58<planetmaker>but it really depends on what you want to do. A computer is only a tool to help you do *something*
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09:59<inkbottle>centrx: I too, thanks
09:59<SATAN>thank for ur comment
10:00<SATAN>so ....... i try to ask to myself these *something*
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10:02<SATAN>i mean *something*, what i really want to do
10:02<planetmaker>if you 'just' want to use the computer for web browsing, e-mail and irc, not much is needed, debian provides all that easily. Likely you know that and use it. You're on IRC here after all.
10:02<planetmaker>so what do you want to do? :)
10:03<SATAN>sure, i got it
10:03<SATAN>that is a question for myself
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10:13<grok>SATAN: maybe this will help... https://www.debian.org/doc/
10:13<SATAN>thank
10:13<SATAN>i
10:14<SATAN>i'll try it
10:14<grok>welcome
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10:23<xiqsjvfy>Well, I "fixed" the SSL handshake problem... by generating a new certificate.
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10:24<xiqsjvfy>I hate having to resort to non-solutions like that, but I hate troubleshooting bugs in gnutls even more.
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11:29<clone>i would like to chat about computer security
11:29<clone>annyone please
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11:30<centrx>!ask
11:30<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:30<clone>i am using tor is my email 100% secure, even if the ISP servers are compromised
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11:31<clone>join /india
11:31<ompaul>clone: no
11:31<Maulkin>clone: no.
11:31<clone>no ?
11:31<ompaul>you asked a question, your question got a one word answer
11:31<clone>why is that ? is it because my isp servers are compromised
11:31<Maulkin>clone: correct. Email isn't secure.
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11:31<clone>if my isp servers were secure would i be safe
11:31<Maulkin>clone: Neither is tor.
11:32<ompaul>and tor is not secure
11:32<clone>what should i use than ?
11:32<Maulkin>clone: No, email isn't secure, and neither is tor.
11:32<ompaul>pen and paper
11:32<clone>hehe
11:32<ompaul>serious anwwer
11:32<centrx>clone, Encrypt your mail
11:32<ompaul>answer
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11:32<clone>using ? an email client ?
11:32<Maulkin>clone: Also, try in #tor
11:32<clone>any encryption suggestions
11:32<skx_droid>pgp
11:33<clone>okiee
11:33<ompaul>clone: you need to read about gpg
11:33<clone>i do need to send the public key across right
11:33<clone>but what if the hacker hacks my system and gets my private key
11:34<clone>also i am on ubuntu ,what can i do to make ubuntu secure
11:34<Maulkin>clone: Then you're screwed.
11:34<Maulkin>clone: !ubuntu-irc
11:34<ompaul>then it is not secure and this is not a ubuntu channel
11:34<clone>hehe yeah right
11:34<Maulkin> !ubuntu-irc
11:34<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
11:34<skx_droid>use Debian. lol
11:34<clone>sorry
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11:34<clone>is debian more secure
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11:34<skx_droid>yes.
11:34<ompaul>you have statistics?
11:34<clone>damm i thought my email was secure on TOR
11:35<planetmaker>what defines "secure" for you?
11:35<clone>secure = nobody can read my email
11:35<clone>and an OS that is very very difficult to hack into
11:35<planetmaker>he, that only can be done with end-to-end encryption like gpg indeed
11:35<skx_droid>tor is not about being secure, but all about being anonymous
11:36<clone>correct me if i am wrong but windows exploits are easily available in the hacker underground
11:36<planetmaker>and only if you communication partners use your public key to encrypt messages sent to you
11:36<clone>thanks will use pgp
11:36<clone>thanks
11:36<planetmaker>indeed security is not anonymity. And vice versa.
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11:37<clone>yeah should send my partner my public key
11:37*planetmaker uses enigmail with thunderbird; it's a gpg-front end. Makes it pretty easy to use
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11:37<clone>nah i read its useless
11:37<xiqsjvfy>s/security/privacy
11:37<ompaul>!offtopic
11:37<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
11:38<clone>enigmail is unencrpyted untill there servers
11:38<ompaul>clone: inaccurate
11:38<xiqsjvfy>I think you're confusing enigmail with lavabit, or a similar service
11:38<planetmaker>I believe so, too^
11:38<clone>me------(unencrypted)-----isp servers-(unencrypted(--enigmail servers-----
11:38<clone>correct me if i am wrong
11:38<ompaul>clone: now, you are well offtopic, this is not a debian discussion and your irc channel is irc.freenode.net and the channel you want for your ubuntu is #ubuntu
11:38<xiqsjvfy>enigmail has no servers
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11:39<clone>i am sorry paul will be quiet
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11:40<clone>so how does enigmail work.....last qstn paul--my apologies
11:41<ompaul>if only there was a way to search the internet
11:41<weasel>you mean like bing?
11:41<clone>thunderbird with gpg I used this seems good
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11:41<clone>hehe sorry paul adios
11:42<ompaul>weasel: I could go and duck there
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11:42<planetmaker>https://www.enigmail.net/home/index.php ?
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11:43<clone>join #tor
11:43<clone>ahmm how to change rooms
11:43<clone>#tor
11:43<ompaul> /
11:44<skribblezatcha>its /join #tor clone.
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12:02<geohas>connect -ssl irc.servus.at 6667 /
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13:34<jean_>I have installed everything so I can try some php scripts on my localhost/~username. everything works except that when I update my scripts (php) iceweasel does not refresh. Any reason why iceweasel does not refresh to show the new output from the updated script
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13:35<LtL>jean_: press F5 in iceweasel to refresh it
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13:36<jean_>LtL: resend does not do anything
13:36<victory>shift+f5 or ctrl+f5 to force reload
13:37<jean_>LtL; every time I want to test new code in the script I have to change the name of it!!!
13:37<LtL>jean_: thats odd, you could try to clean it's cache and reload the page but you really shouldn't need to
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13:38<victory>the stupid browser's cache issue is very annoying
13:38<jean_>LtL: the weird thing is that I have done that too
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13:39<LtL>jean_: but changing the script name works?
13:39<blast007>jean_: are you running some sort of opcode caching system with PHP, such as APC?
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13:40<jean_>LtL: yes it does
13:40<St33l>Hello all... I'd like to know where I have to connect to talk about heartbleed bug, I'm installing the upgrade but I'm still vulnerable.
13:41<jean_>blast007: to be honest I do not know becuase I have followed a tutorial to install drupal (which I did not like at the end) a while ago. Is there a way to tell
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13:42<blast007>jean_: well, APC is the php-apc package, but there are others
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13:43<jean_>blast007: just did a dpkg -l | grep apc and the only thing that shows up is the calculator
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13:44<blast007>you could check the output of a file with the 'curl' command as well as then you wouldn't have any possible cache issues except if it's in the web server itself
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13:47<jean_>blast007: I will look into that thanks
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14:24<St33l>Can someone helpme with OpenSSL heartbleed bug?
14:25<centrx>!ask
14:25<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
14:26<centrx>dpkg, tell St33l about heartbleed
14:26<St33l>I'm running Debian Wheezy and I have a problem with OpenSSL 1.0.1e-2+deb7u9... I'm still vulnerable using this package
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14:27<Guest12027>dkd
14:27<Guest12027>St33l: did you try the exploit?
14:28<Stummi>,v openssl
14:28<judd>Package: openssl on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u8; wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u9; jessie: 1.0.1g-4; sid: 1.0.1g-4; experimental: 1.0.2~beta1-1
14:28<St33l>yap... and have success
14:29<Stummi>how did you try the exploit?
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14:31<St33l>I'm using metasploit to run the test. I'm using nmap with NSE script "ssl-heartbleed" and it says VULNERABLE, when I try to exploit it usgin metasploit I have success
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14:33<St33l>judd: I'm running wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u9... but I'm still vulnerable.
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14:34<Stummi>maybe its a false positive?
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14:34<St33l>not... I'm exploring it now =/
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14:34<Stummi>St33l, do you have any public accessable webservice as example?
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14:37<St33l>Stummi: I don't have a lab to test it on the internet... How can I send it privately?
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14:39<Stummi>St33l, via query or, if you are too paranoid for a query, mail
14:39<Stummi>you will find a pgp key on my website
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14:41<St33l>Stummi: what's your email?
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14:42<Stummi>St33l, query
14:42<St33l>Ok, I will send u an email.
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14:53<newbage>is there any free software that works with the crucial m500 SED?
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14:53<newbage>I don't know much about the Opal standard and booting debian on such a drive
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15:12<devil_>newbage: it is just a harddrive, isn't it?
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15:26<newbage>devil_: yes
15:26<devil_>so what are you afraid of?
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15:26<devil_>you need some ssd related settings in fstab, that's all
15:27<newbage>I don't want to brick my drive
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15:29<centrx>newbage, That's pretty unlikely
15:29<SATAN>hello
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15:31<SATAN>now i trying to upgrade but i got an error "dpkg: error processing linux-image-amd64 (--configure):
15:31<SATAN> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
15:31<SATAN>Setting up xdm (1:1.1.11-1) ...
15:31<SATAN>update-rc.d: We have no instructions for the xdm init script.
15:31<SATAN>update-rc.d: It looks like a non-network service, we enable it.
15:31-!-SATAN was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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15:35<SATAN>Please help me,
15:35<SATAN>i need ur hand
15:35<devil_>newbage: like I said, to the system it is just another device
15:35<devil_>SATAN: pastebin the complete output
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15:36<SATAN>devil_: sorry i don't get it
15:37<devil_>we need to see the complete output of the command you gave in a pastebin like paste.debian.net
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15:39<SATAN>ok, i try it :)
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15:42<SATAN>http://paste.debian.net/103061/
15:43<retrospectacus>stan: this is Debian support; you appear to be using "kali"
15:43<devil_>3 not fully installed or removed <== there is your problem
15:43<SATAN>it there, help me pleaseee... devil
15:43<devil_>run apt-get -f install and see what that does
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15:44<SATAN>ok. please wait me
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15:46<devil_>SATAN: btw.: you are in the wrong channel. kali is not supported here :(
15:46<devil_>!kali
15:46<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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15:48<SATAN>http://paste.debian.net/103065
15:48<SATAN>oop
15:48<towo`>linux-image-3.14-kali1-amd64 <== that's not debian
15:48<SATAN>oh isee
15:49<towo`>and btw, /usr/share/EXTLINUX/themes/debian: No such file or directory
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15:49<_cyclops_>Hi all - i'm wondering. Currently on squeeze. But when doing an upgrade to wheezy. Would i also be able to change squeeze to stable in sources.list?
15:50<devil_>towo`: late to the party :)
15:50<devil_>_cyclops_: why would you want that?
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15:51<devil_>_cyclops_: oh, I misread
15:51<_cyclops_>devil_, well - i'm probably not getting this right. But wouldn't moving to 'stable' avail having a periodical 'dist-upgrade' ?
15:51<devil_>yes
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15:51<devil_>but your sentences are not complete
15:52<devil_>oh. a . where a , should be. I get it
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15:53<SATAN>Arrrrrr............ i don't know where should i start
15:54<retrospectacus>SATAN: irc://irc.freenode.net/#kali-linux
15:54<mtn>SATAN: start by going to the correct channel, this is not it
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15:54<SATAN>ok
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15:55<retrospectacus>SATAN: or a better solution, install debian
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15:56<SATAN>yes, i want
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15:57<retrospectacus>!install debian
15:57<dpkg>There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.)
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15:59<planetmaker>!download
15:59<dpkg>There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.)
15:59<planetmaker>hm :)
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16:11<genius>hi
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16:12<genius>i lost my gnome calculator, any idea to reinstall it ?
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16:13<mtn>genius: did you look in synaptic or using aptitude for it, so you could reinstall it?
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16:13<genius>@mnt , Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package gnome-calculator
16:14<mtn>genius: what version of debian is this?
16:14<cra1g321>you are using gnome 3 ?
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16:14<genius>debian 7.4
16:14<genius>with default gnome 3
16:14<cra1g321>would it be gcalctool then ?
16:14<cra1g321>that you were using ?
16:15<genius>o yeah ! gcalctool
16:15<genius>it works
16:15<genius>thank you
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16:16<cra1g321>you should check it was gcalctool you were using before
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16:16<cra1g321>before you install it
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16:17<genius>yes, it was gcalctool
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16:17<blast007>_cyclops_: I believe that using the 'stable' keyword is a *bad* idea because there are generally special upgrade instructions when migrating between major releases, so it should be something you prepare for, not accidentally half-way install
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16:19<blast007>_cyclops_: so there's no benefit to using 'stable' instead of 'wheezy' in your sources, but plenty of disadvantages
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16:41<timpo>sound is only comming out of my headphones not my monitor speakers(connected with hdmi)
16:41<timpo>please help
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16:53<centrx>timpo, Look for the "auto mute" setting in alsamixer
16:53<centrx>timpo, "auto mute" mutes the speakers when you plug in head phones
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17:06<Eryn_1983_FL>hey peeps i just made a new primary partition with cfdisk and it complained at the end. it wrote it but os didnt pick up the dev. how do i make debian find the new /dev/sda3?
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17:08<Eryn_1983_FL>screw it i will just reboot
17:11<_cyclops_>blast007, thanks for that info! It helps!
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18:27<rysiek|pl>hi guys
18:27<retrospectacus>hi rysiek
18:27<rysiek|pl>could anybody hint as to how to check which repo (I have several in sources.list.d) a given package has been installed from?
18:28<retrospectacus>!which repo
18:28<dpkg>To see what repository a package may have come from, try http://svn.noreply.org/svn/weaselutils/trunk/apt-listrepository , or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory, or <bdo list>, or <dmm list>
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18:28<retrospectacus>"apt-cache policy packagename" is often enough
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18:31<rysiek|pl>ah
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19:34<somiaj>in the security update for chromium-browser from 34 to 35 it no longer loads plugins (adobe non-free flash and icedtea). I couldn't find a bugreport on this and was wondering if anyone else has the same problem with the chromium 35 from security
19:35<mtn>somiaj: I believe chromium no longer supports those plugins for security reasons
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19:35<mtn>somiaj: it has been in the news
19:39<somiaj>mtn: hmm, I don't see that in the change log or news in /usr/share/doc/chromium
19:41<mtn>somiaj: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/browsers-will-flash-linux-into-the-future-or-drag-it-into-the-past/
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19:42<cc0de>o/
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19:44<somiaj>lovely either way it was not documented as a change to the security package in wheezy and unforntually I'm stuck with flash.
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19:46<mtn>somiaj: so use iceweasel
19:46<somiaj>I guess the solution is to use google-chrome
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19:52<themill>,i pepperflashplugin-nonfree --release wheezy-backports
19:52<judd>Package pepperflashplugin-nonfree (contrib/web, optional) in wheezy-backports/i386: Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. Version: 1.2~bpo70+1; Size: 10.2k; Installed: 65k; Homepage: http://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer
19:52<themill>somiaj: ^^ I'm told this is relevant
19:53<somiaj>yea I saw that, I originally thought it was a different flash, didn't realize it was just a new api
19:53<themill>yeah, new plugin api
19:54<somiaj>I will give that a try, but it seems they removed the old plugin feature and as of the new article mtn linked the opensource chromium just didnt' include the pepper api
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19:56<somiaj>"The Chromium browser (the browser that many die-hard open source fans use) will not be able to enjoy the new PPAPI architecture without extracting it from Chrome. "
19:57<somiaj>but I will test it out once I finish what i needed to get done.
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21:04<retrospectacus>how can I read colours with "less"? /var/log/boot is all ^[[?25l^[[?1c^[7^[[1G[^[[32m ok
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21:05<retrospectacus>or at least, prevent bootup from printing colours
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21:33<poisonarms>So I've tried installing libkdeui5 and libkdecore5, but apt-get tells me that they are both the latest version and already installed. However, I'm not able to select KDE as my window manager when logging into Debian. Anyone got any ideas?
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21:34<poisonarms>I'm only able to select from GNOME, GNOME-Classic, and System Default.
21:35<zykotick9>!tell poisonarms about install kde
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21:36<poisonarms>Thanks, zykotick9
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21:40<Shadowalker>hello
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21:41<Shadowalker>sorry xD
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22:09<baker29>woops
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23:04<crunchbang>how do i play
23:05<crunchbang>yo
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23:19<Zippo>If you are installing a program on you system how would one go about finding out the dependencies that is needed ?
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23:20<rvdv>Zippo: apt-get manages that, and will install the dependencies if needed ...
23:22<Zippo>Rdvd does it matter if the program you are installing is not in the debian repository? The program is metasploit but I know that metasploit isn't supported here
23:23<rvdv>metasploit? Is that not that software to create mallware and other unpleasant stuff?
23:23<rvdv>This is a support channel for debian and debian software ... not for script kiddies
23:24<Zippo>We'll it can but it is going to be used in virtual systems for education reasons. Nothing bad
23:24<Zippo>To help try and learn about security
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23:25<rvdv>Well as said, this is a support channel for debian and debian software ... maybe you can find out what dependancies it needs by looking at the errors you get when trying to run it
23:27<Zippo>Never tryed running or installing as of yet just wanting to know how to find out dependencies for programs not just that one isn't know if there was something way to do that
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