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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-06-03

---Logopened Tue Jun 03 00:00:44 2014
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00:24<test123123>Hello :) What shell should I use for a virtual ftp user? I seem to not have /bin/false
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00:27<don_armstrong>test123123: /usr/sbin/nologin
00:28<don_armstrong>or /bin/false if you must.
00:28<test123123>thanks :) it says I don't hae /bin/false
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00:28<dondelelcaro>test123123: then for whatever reason you don't have coreutils installed, or you're not running Debian.
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00:28<test123123>i'm on 7.5
00:29<dondelelcaro>which, considering coreutils is Essential: yes, you're probably not running Debian. Or you've deleted bin/false.
00:30<test123123>ftpasswd: /bin/false is not among the valid system shells. Use of "RequireValidShell off" may be required, and the PAM.
00:33<dondelelcaro>because /bin/false isn't a valid shell.
00:33<dondelelcaro>the point of using /bin/false is that it isn't a valid shell, and won't let a user log on
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00:34<test123123>have you ever used ftpasswd? maybe it needs to run from root?
00:34<dondelelcaro>so you have /bin/false, but you might not be able to use it to log on if you don't want the user to actually have a log on shell.
00:34<test123123>i am scared to run things as root unless i verifiy they require it
00:35<dondelelcaro>I've no idea what ftpasswd is
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00:35<test123123>it's a perl script for proftpd to make virtual users in flat text file
00:36<dondelelcaro>oh. Well, you don't have to be root for that.
00:36<dondelelcaro>You just need to have access to whatever the text file is that proftpd uses for virtual users.
00:38<victory>you can try other ftpd such as pureftpd :)
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00:39<retrospectacus>you can edit /etc/shells (as root) and add /bin/false if you think that would help
00:39<retrospectacus>(then it would be a "valid" shell)
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00:42<test123123>got it to work :) thanks for the help
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01:42<Sky>Hello All,
01:42<Sky>Anyone knwo why the Truecrypt project is cancelled ?
01:43<Sky>http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
01:43<ncl>I think that's heavily implied, yes
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01:48<Sky>Truecrypt has always advocated the multi-platform, but has stopped together the xp support, no written does not refer a lack of security in linux, why stop ?
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01:49<jm_>why do you think #debian would have an answer?
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01:52<Sky>Because I think you're invested of the linux and IT news. I expected to find more siding on a french show :)
01:52<Sky>But... may be i'm not in the reality :)
01:52<ncl>I didn't even know Truecrypt existed on Linux
01:53<ncl>Aren't ecryptfs, dmcrypt, and others better
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01:54<jmcnaught>wheezy-backports has tcplay which is apparently a truecrypt implementation using dm-crypt. I haven't tried it though.
01:55<Sky>So okay, sorry for this moment. I hope a great day for you, and thx for you'are answer.
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02:18<shwetun>everybody ??
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02:24<shwetun>can you help me ??
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02:24<jmcnaught>maybe, but you need to ask a specific question first :)
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02:56<phillipsjk>I moved my old debian installation from one machine to another, and now my network does not come up automatically.
02:56<phillipsjk>dhclient brings up the interface.
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02:57<jm_>!z70
02:57<dpkg>udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, edit this file to change the mappings. To apply changes: «udevadm trigger» or reload the relevant driver module. See also <udev>.
02:57<jm_>phillipsjk ^^^
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03:01<phillipsjk>That does look promissing...
03:01<phillipsjk>new card was called "eth1" for some reason.
03:02<jm_>that is the reason
03:03<phillipsjk>Ok, will dis-appear for a few minutes...
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03:03<weasel>it's to help you make networking more predictable
03:03<weasel>or something
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03:03<weasel>it usually makes it easy to predict that you won't have network after even looking at a host at an angle
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03:07<phillipsjk>Ok interface came up all by istelf.
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03:15<phillipsjk>my machine is not using the staic DHCP lease assigned to it. is there a way to flush the old lese?
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04:52<mestia>is there a debian way to enable feature of VIM to remember last visted line ?
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04:54<jm_>mestia: it probably remembers it already, just doesn't jump to it, try '" (there's a commented block in the default vimrc file to enable autojump too)
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04:56<mestia>jm_: thanks! great!
04:56<jm_>no problem
04:57<mestia>I thought that one need to enable a plugin for that and so on, in the past I just was pasting it in the config manually...
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07:46<gio>Hi there!
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08:06<JAWC>Why would logging in (gdm3) cause (non-OS) disks to spin-up and some of them to be "accessed"? I'm trying to get them to consistently stay in standby mode (unless I access them) before (re-)scheduling things that deliberately wake them (e.g. SMART checks). Doesn't happen if I login via shell, nor if I stay logged in with gdm3 (~3+ days in standby state).
08:08<zykotick9>JAWC: just a guess, but i'd imagine gnome and it fuse/gvfs does enumerate all drives on startup. but, just a guess.
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08:27<andres>One spinup per login hardly can be problematic?
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08:34<JAWC>andres, takes me from 40 watts idle to 65 watts idle for two hours, and if I logout/login instead of locking my screen, my media disks that aren't "designed" to spin 24/7 will never spindown.
08:34<jm_>how manny disks is that, 3 or 4?
08:34<JAWC>3
08:35<JAWC>OS on an SSD and a WD Red.
08:35<JAWC>(i.e. 5 disks total)
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08:37<jm_>kernel has options to track down what's using devices, that could help, but it's a bit painful to use
08:37<jm_>search for what's spinning my disk but off now
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09:34<trico>does hylafax have an irc channel?
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09:37<Nikon>heyo
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09:41<roughnecks>!hylafax
09:41<dpkg>HylaFAX is a telecommunication system for Unix systems, allowing facsimiles to be sent and received. Packaged for Debian as hylafax-server and hylafax-client. http://wiki.debian.org/HylaFax http://www.hylafax.org/content/FAQ #hylafax on irc.freenode.net. See also <t38modem>.
09:41<Nikon>how can i configure debian to listen on my outside ip if im behind nat?
09:41<zathras>trico, do you use a lot of faxes?
09:42<zenlunatic>trico: probably not but it definitely has maintainer
09:43<trico>thanks. yes, too many faxes. wish i could tell these losers the 90s are over
09:43<roughnecks>Nikon: just configure port-forwarding in your router
09:43<Nikon>roughnecks: I did, however postfix will still only listen on the inside
09:43<zathras>if so: buy a professional faxmodem (1000 USD or something like that). Otherwise do not bother: faxes are not that common anymore and also cheaper modems give you haeadaches. Not only to configure them but also the handshaking is terrible
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09:43<zathras>lot's of pseudo compatibility
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09:44<zathras>trico, wild guess: lawyers :P
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09:45<ubuntu_>.
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09:45<roughnecks>Nikon: do you mean on localhost or on the private (192.168..) address?
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09:46<zathras>Nikon, make sure postfix listens on an external IP/nic and not only on localhost
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09:46<zathras>next check firewall, and indeed portforwarding must be enabled
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09:47<Nikon>roughnecks: 192.168...
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09:48<roughnecks>Nikon: that should just work if port-forwarding and firewall are ok. It's the router which forwards traffic from the outside to the inside
09:49<Nikon>aight
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09:49<roughnecks>you may need a dynamic dns if your public IP is not a static one
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09:50<Nikon>roughnecks: its dynamic, but it hasn't changed for the last two years
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09:54<petn-randall>trico: asterisk also can do fax, though I can't say it was trivial to configure.
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09:59<trico>i already have the server, im trying to figure out how to get it to batch send
10:01<Guest12449>anyone know what debian's expected performance is on a late dual pentium 2 server w/ 512mb ram, thing currently runs XP.
10:01<petn-randall>Guest12449: Should work nicely with a lightweight desktop environment like Xfce.
10:02<trico>whats 'dual pentium 2'? two cpu?
10:02<Guest12449>yeah, two slot one 400mhz cpus
10:03<petn-randall>Guest12449: Don't expect too much, but it should be enough for writing e-mails and surfing the web a little.
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10:03<grummund>Guest12449: i have a server like that, runs exim mail server, subversion, dns, fine. given up using it for desktop use though.
10:04<Guest12449>as long as it runs smoothly it should be good enough, the thing can be upgraded to 2 800mhz P3s, but they are hard to come by
10:04<grummund>same spec. dual pentium with 512M
10:04<trico>i wouldnt even bother, it would just draw too much power for what it does. virtualize unless you have some interest in playing with that specific hardware
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10:05<petn-randall>Guest12449: You can probably get an oldish 64bit CPU with a few gigs of RAM "for under $100".
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10:05<Guest12449>eh, it is for a specific use and isn't on very often, so that's not as much an issue
10:06<Guest12450>I have just started to learn c programming and I was wanting to try installing a program I made. How do I do that with "make install" then file name?
10:06<roughnecks>Guest12449: i've got a PIII with 512MB RAM without GUI, but running a few services on it 24/7 (and it's quite fine for me)
10:06<grummund>Guest12449: do you want to run GUI apps on it?
10:07<Guest12449>yeah, but I figured fluxbox is good enough
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10:07<planetmaker>Guest12450, that depends on the makefile you use. Basically just copy the binary to /usr/local/bin and libs and other deps as required to /usr/local/lib
10:07<petn-randall>Guest12449: You have to write a Makefile for that. It's best to ask on the proper C programming channel, though.
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10:08<grummund>and the C folks will tell you make is not C :-P
10:08<Guest12450>Planetmaker you mean in the /home/bin ?
10:08<planetmaker>no
10:09<planetmaker>if it's just for testing, don't install the programme at all
10:09<planetmaker>just call the resulting binary from the path you built it in
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10:09<Guest12450>Planetmaker I gotcha I didn't look close enough to what you said
10:09<Teisel>there, that's better, guest thing was getting confusing
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10:10<Teisel>also what do you guys think, 40gb IDE or 20gb 10k scsi drive, have both laying around
10:11<Guest12450>Planetmaker thank you for your time and help
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10:11<trico>maybe benchmark both? i wouldnt expect there to be much difference in performance
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10:12<Teisel>eh, I don't think it's worth the time to benchmark, might just use the ide because it's quieter
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10:13<Teisel>anyway, guess I'll go give this a try, thanks
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10:16<us>Yo
10:17<us>Anyone home?
10:17<petn-randall>us: Nope, I'm at work.
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10:18<us>Wow, a real person...good morning
10:18<petn-randall>us: Yeah, we have close to 1000 of them in this channel.
10:19<us>I havent used IRC in at least 10 years. bear with me
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10:19<us>bare?
10:19<petn-randall>us: I see. Do you have a support question regarding Debian?
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10:20<us>Well, I was wondering if there was a quick way to upgrade from long term release to long term release, without going through each upgrade.
10:21<txt-file>us: long term release?
10:21<us>I might be on the wrong channel.
10:21<txt-file>maybe
10:21<petn-randall>us: Which releases do you mean specifically? There is only one LTS in Debian.
10:22<us>lol, Im running xubuntu, I thought this was for all debian based OSs.
10:22<grummund>Anyone know how to get the underlying device name for a LUKS mapping?
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10:22<petn-randall>!xubuntu
10:22<dpkg>Xubuntu is a derivative of <Ubuntu> with the <Xfce> desktop environment. It is not supported in #debian, join #xubuntu on chat.freenode.net for support. http://www.xubuntu.org/ See also <based on debian>.
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10:23<petn-randall>us, nope Ubuntu is not Debian. See above.
10:23<us>Will do, thanks
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10:23<petn-randall>us: You're welcome, see ya
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10:24<DrWhax>hi, I see http://patch-tracker.debian.org/ is down, is this scheduled maintenance? :)
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10:24<grummund>e.g. /dev/mapper/crypt_sda5 is made on top of /dev/sda5, but in general given /dev/mapper/<mapping name> how can you determine /dev/<device name>
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10:25<txt-file>grummund: if it is lvm2 then you can use the lvs, vgs and pvs
10:25<grummund>not LVM, but LUKS.
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10:26<Sebastinas>DrWhax: It's down until someone takes over maintainence. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/06/msg00002.html
10:26<txt-file>grummund: then I have no idea, sorry
10:27*grummund imagines in the myriad of options to dmsetup there is something to list dev name
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10:28<rkdemon>HI, I have a very basic question. There's been a recent release of the libvirt source .. latest being 1.2.5
10:28<DrWhax>Sebastinas: thanks :)
10:28<rkdemon>I need to build a package for it on my platform.
10:29<rkdemon>I got the source for it and have build the package .deb for the previous version 1.2.2 and need to do it for 1.2.5 ?
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10:35<Zenthes>yay I do stuff! I was wondering if i could have some one assist me with a small problem keepass2 will not start here are the results : http://pastebin.com/9KjP34Mw
10:35<Maulkin>Zenthes: looks like an issue with keepass
10:35<Zenthes>go bug those peoples?
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10:36<Maulkin>Zenthes: checking for bugs now...
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10:36<Zenthes>another thing to is I update/upgrade and its still at 2.19
10:36<Zenthes>it isn't updating to 2.26
10:36<Maulkin>Zenthes: you're not running stable then?
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10:38<Zenthes>Guess not.
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10:42<Zenthes>im purging keepass2 now
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10:44<Maulkin>Zenthes: ok, for non-stable support, please head over to #debian-next
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10:46<Zenthes>:) heyyy i know how this works!
10:46<Zenthes>thanks Maulkin but another question why am I not getting the stable version
10:47<Zenthes>I'm using sudo apt-get install keepass23
10:47<Zenthes>keepass2
10:47<Maulkin>Zenthes: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list in pate.debian.net please?
10:47<Maulkin>*paste.debian.net
10:47<petn-randall>Zenthes: 2.19 is the version from stable.
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10:49<Zenthes>Yeah sure one moment
10:50<Zenthes>http://pastebin.com/4JtGRq4J
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10:51<Maulkin>Zenthes: huh. Odd. And same for "apt-cache policy keepass2" please?
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10:55<rkdemon>anyone: can someone help me with this question about compileing the latest source code and creating a debian package ?
10:56<petn-randall>!tell rkdemon about ssb
10:56<Zenthes>http://paste.debian.net/103203/ sorry for the delay, at work and the phone rang. I'm currently the only one here andddd the only person who will try to fix this problem
10:57<Maulkin>Zenthes: Well, I don't see where you're getting 2.26 from
10:57<Zenthes>I'm not I just thought that the package was available :p still doesn't solve the problem
10:57<Zenthes>Thanks for your time again Maulkin
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10:59<Maulkin>Zenthes: Semi random guess, but are you connecting to a HTTPS site?
11:00<Zenthes>elaborate what is connecting to a HTTPS site ?
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11:02<Zenthes>it wont even start. I go to the terminal because the shortcut/icon/desktop launcher stopped working
11:02<Maulkin>Zenthes: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=749359 may be an issue for you.
11:03<Maulkin>Zenthes: Otherwise, please open a bug with "reportbug keepass2"
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11:04<Zenthes>Yeah I almost did that last night but I think you may be right.
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11:17<bsea>kkkkkkkk
11:17<Zenthes>Thanks for the help heading over to the Keepass2 support.
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11:54<kamil>Hello all:)
11:54<kamil>how can I restore previous version of package with apt-get?
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11:55<dondelelcaro>kamil: apt-get install foopkg=fooversion; or similar.
11:56<dondelelcaro>kamil: older versions are on snapshot.debian.org if it's no longer available on your mirror
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11:58<kamil>dondelelcaro: thank you
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12:32<rostam>Hi all, during calling debmirror command I get the following error: read failed: Connection reset by peer at /usr/share/perl5/LWP/Protocol/http.pm line 460. at /usr/share/perl5/LWP/UserAgent.pm line 916. Any help greatly appreciated thx
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12:44<Maulkin>rostam: Sounds like a connection error between you and whatever mirror you're trying to fetch from
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12:45<rostam>Maulkin, There seems to be a bug with libwww-perl: Debian Bug report logs - #548417 I do not know if there is a fix for it or not, I am newbie will you please let me know? thx
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12:47<Maulkin>rostam: Looking
12:47<rostam>Maulkin, thank you
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12:49<Maulkin>rostam: looks like there's not a fix available, either from Debian or upstream. Presumeably because it seems quite hard to reproduce. I'd suggest just re-running debmirror until you get the full set of packages.
12:50<Maulkin>There's a timeout being hit somewhere, though not sure where.
12:50<rostam>Maulkin, I have done it many times. It seems older version is better, is there a way I can install older pkg ?
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12:51<Maulkin>rostam: Hrm... are you on stable?
12:51<rostam>yes
12:51<St33l>yes...
12:51<St33l>I'm running wheezy with OpenSSL 1.0.1e-2+deb7u9
12:51<Maulkin>rostam: You could try and get an earlier version from http://snapshot.debian.org/ - but there's no promise it could work and it's not recommended.
12:52<rostam>Maulkin, thank you so much I will try it. Many thanks again.
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12:52<Maulkin>rostam: You could also try a newer one
12:52<Maulkin>!tell rostam about ssb
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12:53<Maulkin>St33l: ok?
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12:54<St33l>Maulkin: Sorry, I'm talking about other problem ... I'm talking about OpenSSL package in Debian Wheezy, after I upgraded my server, I'm still vulnerable to HeartBleed bug...
12:55<Maulkin>St33l: Well, how do you know?
12:56<St33l>Maulkin: I'm exploring this but in my server with success.
12:56<St33l>bug*
12:56<Maulkin>St33l: How? :)
12:56<Maulkin>St33l: Which service etc?
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12:59<St33l>Maulkin: So... I have an HTTPS server published on the internet. I'm security analyst, and after upgrade my server running Debian Wheezy, I tryed to run metasploit to explore HeartBleed bug on my server...
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12:59<rostam>I want to replace a newer pkg with older pkg (just for testing a bug), is there a document that can help me how to downgrade a package? thx
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13:01<Maulkin>St33l: Ok - I'm guessing you've tried restarting apache?
13:02<Maulkin>St33l: So it picks up on the new libssl?
13:02<Maulkin>rostam: dpkg -i wibble.deb
13:02<Maulkin>Also:
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13:02<Maulkin>!downgrade
13:02<dpkg>Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>.
13:02<rostam>Maulkin, Thank you.
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13:07<m00se>what is in debian the best place to store tmp file thus they get automatically deleted at shutdown/boot?
13:07<koollman>m00se: /tmp ?
13:08<m00se>koollman: are they automatically purged?
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13:10<koollman>m00se: at boot, yes
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13:15<m00se>thx koollman, i'm reading around about tmpfs mounting
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13:39<dotut>hellp have a question about '&&' test in bash...i have the following working: greq -q "TOUCH" && xinput --map-to-crtc "TOUCH" LVDS-1
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13:40<dotut>however i would like to add a second statement to the second expression...e.g. grep -q "TOUCH" && FOUND=1; xinput --map-to-crtc "TOUCH" LVDS-1
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13:41<dotut>in this case..xinput --map-to-crtc executes always since ';' terminates the conditional
13:41<Brigo>dotut, may be another && more ,not ;
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13:41<retrospectacus>dotut: put the 2 commands in ()
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13:42<Brigo>dotut, or, of course use if then else :)
13:42<dotut>retrospectacus: so grep ... && (FOUND=1; xinput ...)
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13:42<retrospectacus>yes
13:43<dotut>Brigo: yes was going to do that eventually if all else fails :)
13:43<dotut>retrospectacus: thanks i'll try that
13:43<retrospectacus>another && would work because "FOUND=1" cannot fail. But that is kind of not great logic
13:44<dotut>retrospectacus: makes sense
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14:36<dotut>retrospectacus: i had to use the extra && when assigning FOUND=1...assignment inside () does not seem to take
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14:38<retrospectacus>true. () is a subshell and variables created inside are lost after
14:39<retrospectacus>forgot about that
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14:41<Brigo>dotut, and what about export a="b"?
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14:44<dotut>Brigo: im guessing that should work although haven't tried it
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14:45<Brigo>dotut, good look, then :)
14:46<Brigo>dotut, or use if then else :D
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14:47<dotut>Brigo: yes eventually if all else fails :)
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14:50<retrospectacus>what's wrong with "if grep -q ....;then FOUND=1;xinput ... ;fi "
14:50<retrospectacus>it's hardly longer than what you have
14:53<dotut>retrospectacus: you're right..i could that...i guess was just practicing bash conditionals
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15:21<Randomperson25>Hello, is anyone free to help me with my debian system?
15:22<ixi>`!ask
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15:22<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:24<Coder>I have a problem with my new system debian im running debian version 7.5.0-i386, when i log in i have an empty desktop and nothing else when i try to enter the terminal using ctrl+alt+f1 my whole system freezes
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15:24<glitchedsoulz>?
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15:26<rkdemon>HI, I am trying to build the libvirt-bin debian package.
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15:27<rkdemon>How is the debian/libvirt-doc folder supposed to be handled ?
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15:28<rkdemon>WHere is this folder supposed to be created from ?
15:28<rkdemon>I basically downloaded the source code for libvirt-bin and copied the "debian" folder from an older compiled version into the folder and ran fakeroor/debian binary.
15:29<rkdemon>fakeroot debian/rules binary
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15:30<jgalt>trouble with apt-get..... texlive-xetex crashes install. pastebin here: http://pastebin.com/mbs2Jxgk . How can I fix this so as to continue the install of other packeges and get past this hangup. how may I report the bug and to who? how di I find a package maintainer?
15:33<retrospectacus>I got kernel 3.14-1-amd64 and headers, and nvidia-kernel-dkms et.al 319.82-1~bpo70+2 , all from wheezy-backports and installation went fine. But starting X I get " nvidia: Unknown symbol acpi_os_wait_events_complete (err 0)" in dmesg
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15:37<towo`>retrospectacus, maybe this patch is missing: http://paste.debian.net/103264/
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15:38<retrospectacus>ah yes I was looking at some things like this but I can't find that file to patch. I got nvidia-graphics-drivers-319.82/ from "apt-get source" but there are no *.c files in it at all
15:39<towo`>there is, after install
15:39<towo`>look in /usr/src/nvidia-foo
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15:40<retrospectacus>oh, ok. Then how t recompile it after patching it?
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15:42<retrospectacus>dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms or so?
15:42<towo`>dkms build -m nvidia-current -v 319.82 -k $(uname -r)
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15:42<towo`>retrospectacus, no, with dpkg, the source will new extractet and you patched file is gone
15:43<towo`>retrospectacus, after dkms build, do dkms install -m nvidia-current -v 319.82 -k $(uname -r)
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15:46<retrospectacus>dkms build says it is already built
15:46<retrospectacus>did "dkms remove"
15:47<towo`>dkms --force build foo
15:47<towo`>would work even
15:47<retrospectacus>it didn't
15:49<retrospectacus>it works :)
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15:50<towo`>retrospectacus, fill a bug against nvidia-kernel-dkms from bpo ;)
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16:05<retrospectacus>I shall, after I sort the next thing out
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16:07<retrospectacus>some combination of the upgrade and my user's config causes "Segmentation fault" for nearly every command typed (ls, file, tail, dmesg) though cd, pwd, echo, tab completion, and "su" work.
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16:07<centrx>Sounds like a bad core library/config
16:07<retrospectacus>a new user works fine as does root, and gdm3 and xfce and gui programs start/run fine
16:07<centrx>e.g. libc6
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16:10<retrospectacus>moved my user's .bashrc away and all is fine
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16:12<fabricioalveslopes>oi
16:12<retrospectacus>fixed it. It was some LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${STEAMLIBS} export junk from steam.
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16:18<rkdemon>looks like the anonscm.debian web server is down
16:18<davide>ciao
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19:15<unsecur3d>harvard ?
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20:13<Gamedezyner>There's a lot of people in here wow
20:13<Gamedezyner>Hi everyone
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20:34<test123123>how to rename to remove all ' from following directories and filenames?
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20:35<sney>probably with some sort of for loop with sed
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20:36<test123123>:( i hate reg exp
20:37<themill>prename
20:39<Arrowmaster>yeah i just use the rename cmd for stuff like that
20:39<test123123>doing manually :( damn reg exp! i can't do them, i give up on it. here goes 2 hours :(
20:39<Arrowmaster>rename "s/'//g" path/*
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20:40<test123123>thanks testing locally now
20:40<Arrowmaster>try rename -n "s/'//g" path/* to test it
20:40<Arrowmaster>the -n will make it print out what it would do but it doesnt actually do anything
20:40<themill>(not a bad habit to call it prename rather than rename btw)
20:42<test123123>returns new line
20:42<test123123>is for recursive?
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20:43<test123123>will try more directly
20:43<Arrowmaster>doesnt seem to be recursive
20:43<themill>no. If you need it to recursively process a directory tree, you'd need to exec it from find
20:43<Arrowmaster>or use **/* if you have that enabled in bash (is it default yet?)
20:44<test123123>i need to rename directories and any following filenames they error in my msyql in joomla
20:44<test123123>all ' have to go :(
20:44<test123123>and i have a lot
20:45<themill>Arrowmaster: yeah, globstar isn't on by default
20:45<Arrowmaster>im not actually sure if it works on directory names
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20:45<Arrowmaster>themill: silly bash, copy as much from zsh as they could in 4.x and dont enable any of it by default
20:46<test123123>am doing manually but will remain in chat just in case any pitty's me
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20:46<themill>prename can operate on directories -- if you're renaming things, you need to figure out how to do it in a way that doesn't confuse the thing doing the searching
20:46<Arrowmaster>theres also zmv in zsh but ive yet to figure out the syntax for it
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20:47<Gamedezyner>So after some googling I still can't seem to find an answer. Anyone know a solution for Debian Wheezy and multiple graphics cards?
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20:47<Gamedezyner>...besides Xinerama
20:48<Arrowmaster>never used multiple cards but whats the problem?
20:48<Gamedezyner>Xrandr only shows one card's worth of montors
20:48<Gamedezyner>monitors*
20:48<Gamedezyner>I have a total of 4 I want hooked up
20:49<SamB>maybe Xorg doesn't default to driving all cards?
20:49<Gamedezyner>How would I go about enabling it?
20:49<Gamedezyner>or rather "What should I google?" lol
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20:52<Arrowmaster>Gamedezyner: xrandr only shows one cards monitors as being available?
20:52<Gamedezyner>correct
20:52<Gamedezyner>I have two of the four listed
20:52<Gamedezyner>both plugged into that card
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20:53<Arrowmaster>and the 2nd card has loaded drivers etc?
20:53<Gamedezyner>Not sure how to check. Bit of a novice here.
20:53<Gamedezyner>I can get around just fine
20:53<Arrowmaster>well what type of card is each one
20:53<Gamedezyner>Both NVidia GT series
20:54<Gamedezyner>one's a GT520 and the other is a GT610
20:54<Gamedezyner>cheap ones
20:54<Gamedezyner>lspci shows them both
20:54<Gamedezyner>but I don't know if that tells me anything
20:55<Arrowmaster>ok im assuming you are using the nouveau drivers as they are default unless you have install the nvidia non-free drivers
20:55<Gamedezyner>I just dropped back to nouveau because the non-free were such a pain
20:55<Gamedezyner>so yes
20:56<Arrowmaster>do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
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20:58<Gamedezyner>no but I can create one
20:58<Arrowmaster>without one it should be autodetecting everything
20:58<test123123>I think i found my answer but am kinda scared to enter the command as I don't know what all it does yet http://vinay.in/recursively-rename-files
20:58<Arrowmaster>it might not be working correctly
20:59<Gamedezyner>ok so how can I check if it is detecting them then. The KDE control panel is the only thing I'm going by right now
20:59<Arrowmaster>test123123: where it says "rename -v", change that to "rename -nv" and it should be safe to run and it will only tell you what it will do without doing it
21:00<test123123>thanks!
21:00<test123123>long commands with reg exp scare me i don't want to delete everything
21:00<Arrowmaster>Gamedezyner: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
21:00<Gamedezyner>one sec
21:00<Arrowmaster>test123123: that command is unreadable
21:00<Arrowmaster>i hate stuff like that
21:01<Gamedezyner>What am I looking for in here?
21:01<themill>test123123: I wouldn't use that command either -- "find | while" is almost always the wrong way to do it
21:02<Arrowmaster>yeah it looks terrible but i dont have the time to figure out a better one right now
21:03<test123123>well after looking further it doesn't do what i want exactly. it removes all spaces # and , but at least it tells me that e='s/[ #,]/-/g'; is where it specifies that now the question is can i replace the [ #,] with [']?
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21:04<test123123>as all i want removed is the '?
21:04<test123123>not the ? the '
21:06<themill>«find -depth -execdir rename "s/'//" {} \;» should work fine
21:09<test123123>e='s/[']/-/g'; find . | while read f;do c=`basename "$f"`; b=`echo ${f%$c} | sed "$e"`; rename -nv "$e" "$b`basename "$f"`"; done
21:09<test123123>just returned new line, the ' is messing it up i think
21:09<test123123>is find for me?
21:10<test123123>testing
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21:11<Gamedezyner>yeah I have no clue what I'm looking for here, but I'm not seeing the fourth monitor in here
21:11<Trying>Hello all I was thinking about setting up a linux file server due to me hearing linux was Easyer to telnet to or ssh to than windows. So I decided that I would set up a test system in virtualbox before investing money in a file server.
21:11<Gamedezyner>I think I see vendor "DEL" and "HPW"
21:12<Trying>But when I try to telnet or ssh I get nothing but a flashing curser what am I doing wrong?
21:13<Gamedezyner>You said you're using virtualbox. Is the network adapter still set on NAT?
21:13<test123123>i'm not sure if it's workin mill i think its hung
21:13<Trying>I also removed the firewall rule that I had set up denying incoming traffic on port 22
21:13<Trying>No I was thinking that it should have been set to bridged
21:14<Gamedezyner>It should be bridged
21:14<Trying>That was what I was thinking just not sure
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21:15<Gamedezyner>So I'm confused, did you already do that or were you unsure and haven't changed that?
21:15<Trying>I am guessing the blinking curser means I have connected right?
21:15<test123123>thank you mill!!!
21:15<Gamedezyner>What is the 'blinking cursor' in?
21:15<test123123>it works! i had to set up a smaller directory to test
21:16<Trying>I have tryed it with both telnet and ssh and I will get the blinking with both but no text outputting saying anything
21:16<Gamedezyner>is your client in windows or linux?
21:16<Trying>Both linux
21:17<Gamedezyner>what are you typing when you try to SSH
21:17<Gamedezyner>I have no experience with telnet sadly
21:17<Trying>My host os is debian wheezy and my vm I just used a debian based live cd
21:18<Trying>Just ssh then the IP address <local address>
21:18<Trying>Now with telnet I would type the telnet address port
21:19<Gamedezyner>is the ssh server enabled on the guest machine?
21:19<Gamedezyner>silly question but have to ask
21:19<Trying>Glade I decided to test this with virtualbox and not spend all that mony on the server lol
21:20<Trying>Honestly this is my first time doing any of this
21:20<Trying>I know nothing about where to start
21:20<Gamedezyner>Were you using Debian before? You said it's your host machine
21:20<Trying>I don't think that you question is silly
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21:21<Trying>Yes my primary operating system is debian wheezy and I had a debian live DVD I booted in VM to test this or studie etc
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21:22<Gamedezyner>so your goal right now is just to get SSH working correct?
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21:25<Trying>Sorry list my connection to irc
21:25<Trying>What would be better telnet-ssh or ssh?
21:26<Nikon>why wouldn't I be able to telnet to my webserver or my email server from the outside?
21:26<Gamedezyner>Anyone else have any ideas on my issue?
21:26<Gamedezyner>I prefer straight SSH because I'm familiar with it
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21:27<Gamedezyner>Nikon: Define "outside" please
21:27<Nikon>from my domain, NAT is routed to the PC
21:28<Gamedezyner>can you do it from inside the local network?
21:28<Nikon>i can telnet to my mail server
21:28<Nikon>from the inside
21:29<Gamedezyner>and you said it's already been forwarded in the router?
21:29<Nikon>yea
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21:29<Gamedezyner>That's odd
21:29<Gamedezyner>what kind of router?
21:30<Nikon>Linksys
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21:30<Nikon>Its configured correctly, I just dont think my program configs are right
21:31<Gamedezyner>so you're able to access other local services from outside?
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21:32<Nikon>mhmm
21:32<Nikon>like i can view the webserver from the outside
21:33<Gamedezyner>hm... this is probably above my level then
21:33<Gamedezyner>I'm a bit of an end user myself
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21:34<Nikon>fair nuff
21:34<stephen>hello
21:34<stephen>anyone here
21:34<Nikon>the guys in #postfix refuse and say its a network problem when I know its my config ):
21:34<stephen>talk to me
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21:35<Gamedezyner>wow didn't even give us a chance to reply
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21:35<Nikon>XD
21:35<Gamedezyner>did you play with the firewall on the server?
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21:37<test123123>how would i use find -depth -execdir rename "s/'//" {} \; but for (? find -depth -execdir rename "s/(//" {} \; gives an error
21:38<themill>( has special meaning within the regular expression -- you'd need to escape it with a \
21:39<Gamedezyner>Hm... I just opened up my old xorg.conf and found both devices listed
21:39<Gamedezyner>I wonder if that will make it work
21:39<test123123>find -depth -execdir rename "s/[()]//" {} \;
21:39<test123123>did it :)
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21:41<Gamedezyner>I'll be right back. Let's see what this does
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21:43<test123123>so adding this find -depth -execdir rename "s/[()]//" {} \; and find -depth -execdir rename "s/'//" {} \; to chron how would I specify the directories?
21:44<test123123>or would adding that to cron not be the way to go?
21:45<test123123>hrm wonder if i could combine that and just be find -depth -execdir rename "s/[()']//" {} \;
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22:09<sleser>trying to go to google and . it shows ?gws_rd=ssl . at the end . of www.google.com . like so . any idia ? https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl
22:10<sney>what's the question exactly
22:11<sleser>thats the quastion and . the consern is . whats creating the ?gws_rd=ssl
22:11<sleser>redirecting thing.
22:12<sleser>im going to google.com and it taking me to https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl
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22:13<sney>some script on google is creating that. you'd have to ask them. it has nothing to do with debian, either
22:13<sleser>its not debian quastion t hats for sure
22:14<sney>well, this is #debian
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22:15<sleser>np
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22:46<Gamedezyner>gah so it kinda worked
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