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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-06-06

---Logopened Fri Jun 06 00:00:49 2014
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01:08<sleser>is there a youtube-dl pakage for debian
01:08<sleser>cant find it
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01:15<acald3ron>i got youtube-dl in jessie.
01:16<sleser>im using the 7.5
01:16<sleser>cant find it in the apper
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01:17<sleser>i mean i can get it . but i dont prefer to from another party .
01:17<acald3ron>sleser, try ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/y/youtube-dl/
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01:18<sleser>whitch file name ?
01:18<acald3ron>you version of you system.
01:18<windowsbotnet>hello
01:19<windowsbotnet>new to linux and have a question
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01:19<sleser>it dosnt shows virsions of t he system
01:19<sleser>its just shows 4 files
01:19<sleser>all diferent size
01:19<windowsbotnet>can anyone hear me
01:19<sleser>so not sure whitch to get
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01:20<chealer>sleser: not in wheezy
01:21<windowsbotnet>irc is deprecated
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01:21<acald3ron>sleser, .deb
01:22<sleser>thanks acald3ron
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01:22<windowsbotnet>hello
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01:22<windowsbotnet>hello
01:22<windowsbotnet>hello
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01:30<sleser>youtube-dl wont open
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01:39<jm_>youtube-dl is a CLI app
01:40<sleser>within terminal use ?
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01:41<jm_>yes
01:41<sleser>is t here a gui for it ?
01:44<weasel>xterm?
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01:45<jmcnaught>sleser: try the unplug add-on for iceweasel
01:46<sleser>thanks ill give it a try
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01:49<sleser>works.
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02:51<helmut_>hi
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02:57<Mimiko>Hello. I want to compile a program, which uses `makeinfo --set INFO_SPECIAL_CHARS_WARNING=0 ....`. But makeinfo fails with `unknown option --set`. Why? (Debian Wheezy)
02:59<jm_>it has obviously been added in the later version of the tool (man page on sid does mention it)
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03:00<Mimiko>hm, then what should I do?
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03:01<jm_>you could try to backport the texinfo package or upgrade to testing
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03:02<jm_>,checkbackport texinfo
03:02<judd>Backporting package texinfo in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy.
03:02<Mimiko>jm_, will you guide me on how to backport?
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03:02<Mimiko>I', on x86_64
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03:03<jm_>!ssb
03:03<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
03:03<jm_>Mimiko: ^^^^
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03:04<Mimiko>Oh, its like recompilink textinfo?
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03:05<jm_>yes
03:05<Mimiko>Then I'll better use regular compiling using git, configure and make :)
03:06<Mimiko>I thought I could avoid compiling this package.
03:06<Mimiko>Then I mabe will be with luck disabling compiling of documentation in texlive, which uses makeinfo/
03:08<micha-->hi, I would like to automount FAT USB drives as the current user, but they are mounted as root. What to do?
03:08<jm_>if you do that don't install it in /usr - and if you don't do that, make sure wherever you install to is in PATH before /usr/bin
03:11<Mimiko>jm_, all packages which I compile by myself, I use --prefix=/opt/package
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03:17<roughnecks>micha--: try pmount
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03:18<micha-->roughnecks: will look into it.... But I think it just worked on a previous system?
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03:18<roughnecks>yeah, i think it should work on any DE
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03:22<micha-->roughnecks: thanks!
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03:23<heruno>Hello, I’m trying to build a package for debian, but dh gives me an error I don’t know what to do with http://pastie.org/pastes/9263349/text Could somebody explain what’s the problem with install? It doesn’t work independently of whether I do that as an ordinary user or root.
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03:27<jm_>pretty weird, man 2 chown does not mention EINVAL
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03:32<heruno>That’s not all, after switching to unstable and aptitude full upgrade I discovered that apt is no more installed on the system.
03:32<jm_>unstable support is handled in #debian-next
03:33<jm_>or support for sid if you prefer it that way
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03:36<heruno>okay, thank you.
03:37<jm_>you could try to strace the install command
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03:46<sleser>are t here irc chanels . for linux beginers ?
03:47<sleser>to learn things with . easy
03:47<sleser>that would be cool.
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03:48<sleser>instead of bugering you guys too much with simple things.
03:48<sleser>id like to manage things on my own .
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03:49<sleser>reading wiki and linux books . tryed and im not getting it by just reading .
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03:50<Stummi>well, I don't think a general linux chan would make much sense, since most problems the common "linux user" faces are related to the distribution he uses
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03:51<sleser>sometimes i wonder how would a master helper . answer quik . and if he went to school to help . to answer so quik .
03:52<jm_>heruno: I would assume your issue is NFS related yes
03:52<sleser>i dont realy like to bugger. with simple things id like to like learn it my self . but reading it isnt helping . if reading something plumbing related whitch is my profetion i understand but computer reading . no way in hell
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03:54<heruno>Ah, thanks.
03:54<jm_>heruno: you can't copy this to a local fs?
03:55<heruno>I can, but environment in the vm is not set up for work, I thought I could edit files on the host and in vm only run debuild.
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04:00<vahid>hi all
04:02<victory>sleser: may be #debian or ##linux on freenode
04:02<vahid>how konfig tor in back box??
04:02<jm_>!blackbox
04:02<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, blackbox is a window manager for X, or tormenting mhall by hiding the unminimize button, or unique in that its icons are completely invisible, and must be accessed via the middle-click menu. Ask about <bbtools> for some of the nifty tools available. http://blackboxwm.sf.net/BlackboxFAQ #blackbox on irc.freenode.net.
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04:03<vahid>back box
04:03<jm_>bah back nto black
04:03<sleser>thanks ill give it a try tomaro
04:03<jm_>!backbox
04:03<dpkg>BackBox Linux is a distribution based on <Ubuntu> Lucid, developed to perform penetration tests and security assessments. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.backbox.org/ #backbox on irc.autistici.org. See also <based on debian>.
04:03<vahid>back box ubuntu or debian??
04:04<vahid>back box ubuntu and debian ok!!
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05:50<viruskn>i have a problem with running skype i386 under amd64
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05:50<devil_>and what would that be?
05:52<viruskn>i tried to use add architecture i386 but it didn't worked
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05:53<devil_>what was your line and what error did you get?
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06:27<Nikno>Hay, I have a dedicated server running a software RAID 1. Some weeks ago I migrated to the original Debian kernel (Previous kernel was modified by my hoster). I don't know if that caused the problem, but if I want to check my RAID with "mdadm -D /dev/md" it only says "/dev/md does not appear to be an md device".
06:27<Nikno>But it looks like everything seems to be fine. /proc/partitons shows 4 partitons on both hdds with the same proportion.
06:28<Nikno>parted print all has this output: http://pastebin.com/va867QxC
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06:29<Nikno>The strange thing is, that the raid flag is only on the 2nd hdd
06:29<Nikno>Any idea what could be wrong?
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06:30<lamrz>hello, xiqsjvfy!
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06:32<lamrz>it really takes very long with the imaging, though one drive is only 50GB.
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06:32<Nikno>Hey
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06:34<willemb>Hi. can i call an virtual ethernet interface eth0:foo ?
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06:45<lamrz>test
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06:47<Eco>willemb, Internal, sudo ifconfig - external - ping the IP of eth:foo or do you mean something else ?
06:48<jmcnaught>willemb: on the other network you said you just need a way to record what that new IP is for, why don't you just use a comment?
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06:49<willemb>jmcnaught: when you have 100 aliases on one box, I would feel more confident to ifdown eth0:example.com than to hope I got the right alias number based on a comment
06:51<willemb>Eco: I don't understand. what does - external - mean?
06:51<jmcnaught>willemb: so grep the interfaces file before you use ifdown?
06:51<willemb>the problem is that I cannot ifup eth0:foo
06:51<Eco>from an external box
06:52<willemb>aah, got it
06:52<Eco>i think......
06:54<willemb>cat: /sys/class/net/eth0:foo/operstate: No such file or directory
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06:55<Eco>does sudo ifup -i eth0:foo help ?
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06:57<willemb>intersting
06:58<willemb>ifup works, but ifconfig does not
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07:41<willemb>ok, so it looks like there is a very short limitation on alias name length :(
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07:46<maxy>willemb: ifconfig is sort of obsolete, and it always managed aliased interfaces in a special way. You might want to start using ip
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07:53<skribblezatcha>good morning.
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07:58<peco>hello ;)
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07:59<skribblezatcha>hi peco. :)
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09:40<fr33domlover>Hello! Q: When I log in via a terminal and open a man page, I see colored output. When I log in to GNOME, open GNOME Terminal and read a man page, it's plain white text, no colors (but `ls` is colored). Why is it like that?
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09:41<fr33domlover>I really like the way man pages get colored, I had no idea it happens when you log in on a terminal
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09:45<lamrz>petn-randall, hello again, me from yesterday.
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09:48<lamrz>xiqsjvfy had said that "reading straight from a block device which has mounted partitions could very well result in strange behavior" I wondered, if the device that I read with photorec (like an external drive) is not the device that I operate on (like the computer itself) then reading directly from the unmounted external drive or partition, without creating an image first, shouldn't be a aproblem, is this correct?
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09:58<m00se>hi, how long takes a security-patched package to migrate from unstable to testing? 2 days? hope not the usual 10 days.
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09:59<Stummi>m00se, depends on the maintainer, but if its something critical it should happen within one day
10:00<themill>that also depends if it gets caught up with some other transition or fails to build from source
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10:00<Stummi>m00se, you can pin packages from unstable into testing, tough
10:00<Stummi>*though
10:01<m00se>ok, because reading the security faq, i see "there is a minimum two-day migration delay", so i was wondering how big/small "minimum" is here :)
10:01<m00se>thanks all
10:02<planetmaker>that delay is shorter
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10:06<lamrz>ok, I shortened my question: is it ok to do a photorec search on an external drive without creating a dd image first? the drive has no mounted partitions.
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10:14<petn-randall>m00se: If there's no transition blocking the migration, packages usually arrive in jessie after 5 days. "High priority" packages ends up there after 2 days. The heartbleed bug got fixed within the day in jessie, though you shouldn't rely on such things happening.
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10:18<m00se>petn-randall: yes, i was reading about the yesterday openssl security vulns, which are now fixed in stable and sid but not in testing. so i was courious about the modes and times. thanks
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10:27<Stummi>fr33domlover, the color is how tty display an underline terminfo code
10:28<Stummi>(check it: type "tput smul; echo hello world" into your terminal emulator and an tty)
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10:29<fr33domlover>Stummi: I see, thanks. But why does GNOME terminal not use the colors too?
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10:29<Stummi>I don't know why it does it this way though. Now we are livining in framebuffer-times there shouldn't be reason to technically be not able to display anything on tty
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10:30<Stummi>fr33domlover, actually, the gnome terminal is the one which behaves the correct way and the tty is the one who doesn't. Maybe you can configure gnome terminal to display underlined text in a given color, but I don't know, I am not a user of gnome terminal
10:31<fr33domlover>I'll check
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10:34*Stummi thinks it lacks a better sophisticated man reader instead of a typical pager at all in the linux world
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10:54<stu114311>hallo
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11:33<retrospectacus>cj_: hi
11:33<cj_>How are u
11:33<retrospectacus>cj_: great. Do you have a Debian support question?
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11:34<cj_>what is debian?
11:34<cj_>xd
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11:34<retrospectacus>!debian
11:34<dpkg>debian is probably http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
11:34<cj_>!debian
11:34<retrospectacus>!chat
11:34<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or #defocus on irc.freenode.net.
11:35<cj_>debian it's a game?
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11:35<victory>read the link above
11:35<retrospectacus>it's a computer operating system
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12:03<thedead>Hi all, I have installed debian stable 7.5 but I can't figure out how to install teamviewer (in fact that's why some time ago I installed Ubuntu on my work laptop). Can someone help me? I have a 64b arch and I added i386 arch to dpkg, kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64. When I try to install teamviewer_linux_x64.deb it asks for libc6-i386,lib32asound2,lib32z1 and ia32-libs, when I try with the 32b it asks for some other dependencies. I already read about multiarch and t
12:03<thedead>hat ia32-libs are no more in debian repos. Can someone help me?
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12:03<Al33j4ndro>çççççççççççççççççççççççççççççççz
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12:04<keep>KEEp
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12:05<retrospectacus>thedead: run "apt-get -f install" after your failed "dpkg -i teamviewer.deb" command
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12:05<retrospectacus>keep: be quiet
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12:05<keep>fuck yuo
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12:06<thedead>retrospectactus: already tried: it just removes teamviewer
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12:09<retrospectacus>thedead: can you make a paste on http://paste.debian.net showing us "apt-cache policy; dpkg -i teamviewer*.deb ; apt-get -f install"
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12:12<thedead>retrospectacus: this is using the i386 http://pastebin.com/FPCn5vCK
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12:12<retrospectacus>thedead: use http://paste.debian.net
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12:14<thedead>retrospectacus: this for x64 http://paste.debian.net/103754/
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12:15<thedead>retrospectacus: this for i386 http://paste.debian.net/103755/
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12:16<retrospectacus>try "aptitude -f install" for alternate solutions; show us
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12:16<retrospectacus>after dpkg -i again
12:17<retrospectacus>on the 32 bit one
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12:19<thedead>retrospectacus: here http://paste.debian.net/103756/
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12:20<retrospectacus>press n for more solutions
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12:21<thedead>retrospectacus: http://paste.debian.net/103758/
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12:23<retrospectacus>this is because you've mixed testing and stable and ubuntu PPAs
12:23<retrospectacus>!frankendebian
12:23<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
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12:26<retrospectacus>the second solution it suggests is pretty good. You should remove testing and the PPAs from your sources though
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12:27<retrospectacus>I had no problem installing that package on stable
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12:28<thedead>testing are needed to run another program, ppas are not interfering with other packages as well. Can't remove testing.
12:28<Brenda>hola
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12:28<retrospectacus>then you should upgrade fully to testing and proceed to #debian-next
12:28<retrospectacus>mixing testing and stable is never supported
12:29<ompaul>!ppa
12:29<dpkg>[ppa] Personal Package Archive (see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas or <launchpad>). PPAs are either: (a) an easy way to grab packages based on nightly-builds/VCS snapshots or (b) an easy way for any idiot to publish a package of extremely poor quality (remember, you will run the maintainer scripts as root during install!). Choose your repos wisely. No equivalent exists for Debian yet. Ask me about <why not use a ppa>.
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12:30<retrospectacus>ppas are just a bad idea, regardless of if you think they interfere with anything
12:30<thedead>i know, but i don't like to have the whole OS in testing
12:30<ompaul>thedead: then run stable
12:31<ompaul>the idea you get to manage what bits are what leads to what was said about frankendebian
12:31<retrospectacus>you can do what you want, just don't expect support here
12:31<thedead>i need libc6 >= 2.18 ...
12:32<retrospectacus>then run testing/sid
12:32<ompaul>thedead: pick one or the other and get rid of the ppa
12:32<ompaul>where one is testing the other is sid
12:32<ompaul>if you don't like that run stable
12:33<lebrinkma>thedead: why do you need that libc6 version?
12:34<ompaul>because no reason
12:34<thedead>viber... anyway, pinning the testing repos
12:34<retrospectacus>wine64, looks like
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12:34<thedead>ompaul: thank, i didn't knew libc6 > 2.18 was needed for no reason
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12:35<hicks>is this for a home desktop/gaming machine or work?
12:35<thedead>work
12:36<ompaul>judd v libc6
12:36<judd>Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.13-38+deb7u2; jessie: 2.18-7; experimental: 2.19-0experimental0; sid: 2.19-1
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12:36<ompaul>thedead: you choose your version *(experimental isn't a version to run you can't because it isn't a version it's just some packages)
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12:38<thedead>I know about version and stuff... i'll stick to stable. thank you bye
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12:44<iwtkwtlrinidt>This master channel resetting to 100% business is seriously starting to annoy me.
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13:19<ukesh>hey
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13:31<zatherz>hi
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13:33<AlexMax>I want to run the 64-bit version of golang downloaded from golang.org on my debian wheezy box
13:33<AlexMax>My wheezy box is running a 64-bit kernel with a 32-bit userland
13:33<zatherz>I have a question - I installed sudo via apt-get and I would like it to automatically exit root when the process is done, is there any good way to do that?
13:34<AlexMax>Can I run just golang as 64-bit even if userland is 32-bit? Will it work out of the box?
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13:35<AlexMax>I've read up on multiarch, but it wasn't clear how it works with software not installed from dpkg/aptitude
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13:38<zatherz>anyone can help?
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13:39<mtn>zatherz: I just logged in. did you ask a question?
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13:40<Brigo>AlexMax, i think it is not, it will need some librearies
13:40<retrospectacus>zatherz: I don't understand the question. Are you talking about the timeout where you don't have to enter the password again?
13:40<SynrG>zatherz: what do you mean by 'automatically exit root when the process is done' wrt. sudo
13:40<SynrG>so, two people are confused :)
13:40<Brigo>at least
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13:41<lebrinkma>I also don't know what is meant by 'automatically exit root when the process is done
13:41<retrospectacus>100% confusion rate so far ;)
13:41<zatherz>when I run sudo <some command>, after it's done it lefts me as the root
13:41<zatherz>so now I'm confused about it
13:42<valdyn>zatherz: that means you either were root or the command is not done
13:42<valdyn>zatherz: like "sudo bash"
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13:42<retrospectacus>AlexMax: try it and see: dpkg -i golang*.deb ; apt-get -f install
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13:45<zatherz>ok, tried it again, the same thing
13:45<zatherz>will explain in a second
13:46<zatherz>When I run for example `sudo apt-get install cheese`, it normally asks me for a password and gets things done, but after the process I'm logged as root
13:46<zatherz>I would like to make it automatically exit from root
13:46<AlexMax>retrospectacus: I want to install the golang .tar.gz binary package off golang.org
13:46<AlexMax>golang.deb in wheezy is 1.0.2, too old for my needs
13:47<AlexMax>Brigo: Right, but if I install those libraries will the go executable find them allright and things will be hunky dory?
13:47<AlexMax>Or is there a possibility for go to find something unexpected with the 'not fully 64-bit' environment and just die
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13:48<retrospectacus>zatherz: and you run "sudo ..." as your normal non-root user?
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13:48<Brigo>AlexMax, may be if it is capable of foundig the libraries in their path that is not the same in each distribution. Of course if could be fixed.
13:48<zatherz>retrospectacus, of course
13:49<retrospectacus>never heard of that happening
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13:49<Brigo>AlexMax, the problem will be: library not found, eitheir if not installed or if it can not found it.
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13:50<Brigo>zatherz, well you could add an 'exit' at the end
13:50<zatherz>Brigo, I just have an idea
13:50<zatherz>the sudo application is in /usr/bin and /usr/lib
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13:51<zatherz>I will rename it something like 'realsudo' and create my own script ther
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13:51<zatherz>*there
13:51<AlexMax>I'll just try it
13:51<Brigo>zatherz, that is not de default behavior of sudo.
13:51<AlexMax>How stable is debian wheezy multiarch?
13:51<retrospectacus>AlexMax: golang 1.2.1 is in sid; perhaps you can backport it
13:51<Brigo>AlexMax, is very stable
13:52<zatherz>ok, will create the script now and eventually come back
13:52<Brigo>AlexMax, if you will install no debian software, may be you will interested in checkinstall package.
13:52<zatherz>ok, /usr/lib/sudo is actually a directory
13:52<retrospectacus>judd: checkbackport golang
13:52<judd>Backporting package golang in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy.
13:52<zatherz>so I just have to change /usr/bin/sudo
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13:52<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell AlexMax about ssb
13:53<Brigo>,v golang
13:53<judd>Package: golang on i386 -- wheezy: 2:1.0.2-1.1; jessie: 2:1.2.1-2; sid: 2:1.2.1-2
13:53<zatherz>did it, will now try
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13:54<Brigo>retrospectacus, very good soution :)
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13:55<zatherz>well, there's a problem now
13:56<retrospectacus>zatherz, just show us: http://paste.debian.net
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13:56<AlexMax>Yay
13:56<AlexMax>adding amd64 as an arch
13:57<AlexMax>and then aptitude install libc6:amd64
13:57<AlexMax>now go works
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13:57<zatherz>retrospectacus, I tried to create that script, but now only root can start it
13:57<retrospectacus>AlexMax: you should still use the debian package instead of tar.gz
13:57<zatherz>and it kinda defeats the purpose
13:57<retrospectacus>zatherz: why did you do that
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13:58<zatherz>I renamed /usr/bin/sudo to realsudo, and created a new sudo script there with this syntax: "sudo $1; exit"
13:58<retrospectacus>I said "why"
13:59<zatherz>because I couldn't find any other "good" solution
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13:59<zatherz>for some reason when I run the script it says I don't have permissions
14:00<zatherz>oh, I think I know how to fix it
14:00<AlexMax>Why? The only reason why I would is 1. if go weren't a piece of cake to uninstall (it is, its self contained) or if I could automatically update the package (I can't because I have to generate the package by hand)
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14:00<zatherz>I will try to chown it as normal user
14:01<retrospectacus>well it should be 'realsudo "$@" ; exit' but it's still a strange workaround
14:01<zatherz>have any other ideas?
14:01<retrospectacus>chmod +x is all you need, no chown
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14:01<zatherz>retrospectacus, ok
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14:02<lebrinkma>zatherz: are their any bash aliases in place that could cause that?
14:02<Brigo>AlexMax, the debian package will run for sure, it will care about not break anything. With forein software you could break something or
14:02<Brigo>!tell AlexMax about frankendebian
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14:32<karl>I have Lxle and I want to install Mint How do I do it?
14:33-!-tuhin [~tuhin@182.64.37.169] has joined #debian
14:34<karl>I would like the quick, simple way.
14:34<mtn>karl: start by going to the linuxmint channel on spotchat
14:34<tuhin>hi
14:34<karl>OK thanks
14:35<tuhin>how can i partition my drive in ubuntu
14:35<tuhin>?
14:35<tuhin>someone please tell me
14:35<mtn>!ubuntu
14:35<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
14:35<tuhin>i want to install windows on a dual boot
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14:40<AlexMax>!fedora
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14:40<dpkg>Fedora is the Red Hat-derived distribution of Linux, although it is not supported by Red Hat officially, you can get help from the community: #fedora on irc.freenode.net. http://fedoraproject.org/
14:40<AlexMax>!centos
14:40<dpkg>CentOS (Community ENTerprise Operating System) is a rebuild of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux RPMs by the community. http://centos.org/ For IRC support, join #centos on irc.freenode.net.
14:40<AlexMax>wow
14:41<AlexMax>lots of ready-made responses for "That's not us"
14:41<AlexMax>:P
14:41<AlexMax>!backtrack
14:41<dpkg>BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Lucid (as of BackTrack 5), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. Superseded by <kali linux>.
14:41<AlexMax>jesus, even something moderately obscure
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14:41<varde>jesus
14:41<mtn>AlexMax: if you want to play with the bot, type /msg dpkg and then whatever you are interested in.
14:41<AlexMax>mtn: My apologies.
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14:42<AlexMax>I won't frivolously message the bot anymore.
14:42<AlexMax>unless in a PM
14:42<mtn>:)
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14:45<AlexMax>the entry on CDE is out of date, it's now floos
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14:46<AlexMax>so far i've confused it on illumos and pcbsd
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15:07<frlttrwrd>what's the easiest way to get an all white screen? (I want to be able to see the dirt I'm trying to clean from the display)
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15:08<ksk>get some big white picture, display it in full screen with some random viewer?
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15:10<frlttrwrd>ok, I probably could have come up with that idea if I switched my brain on for a second
15:10<frlttrwrd>thanks
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15:11<ksk>not sure if troll or not ;)
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15:32<zenlunatic>frlttrwrd: thats racist :)
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15:42<frlttrwrd>I ... I don't know what to respond to that
15:43<frlttrwrd>I will try to find a less offensive way to clean my screen the next time
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15:45<Guest12027>frlttrwrd: pdfs often have white pages
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15:59<retrospectacus>convert -size 1920x1080 xc:white empty.jpg && eog --fullscreen empty.jpg
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16:15<PHeanEX>Im trying to test my selfbuilt packages with piuparts, but it fails since it doesnt install all dependencies => is there a way to let piuparts install the dependencies also or am i not using the right tool for the job?
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16:17<dark-jedi>PHeanEX, Install the dependencies first, then install your package.
16:17<retrospectacus>the right tool is dpkg/apt, reading the Depends from the control file
16:18<dark-jedi>PHeanEX, Or you could try "apt-get install -f" and let it fix the dependency problem and it will install your package after it's done.
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16:26<marcham93>Hi everyone. Installing Debian in VMware for the first time. Was curious if there is a listing of what is included within each software collection (laptop, standard sys util, etc.). Can't seem to find one.
16:27<retrospectacus>marcham93: you can see them with the "tasksel" command - man tasksel
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16:28<marcham93>retro, I'm within the graphical installer - can I run a terminal from there to do so? I'm doing a net install, so I don't want to download any undeeded packages.
16:28<retrospectacus>or e.g. apt-cache show task-desktop
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16:29<retrospectacus>you should be able to get a terminal by pressing Ctrl-alt-F3 or so
16:29<retrospectacus>and back to the installer with Ctrl-alt-F7 or F8 or F1
16:29<marcham93>Beautiful, got it. Thanks!
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16:30<retrospectacus>so e.g. task-laptop recommends acpid, acpi, acpi-support, pcmciautils, wireless-tools, wpasupplicant and other laptoppy packages
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16:31<retrospectacus>marcham93: "man tasksel" would lead you to "tasksel --list-tasks" and then "tasksel --task-packages laptop" but that just says "task-laptop" which the apt-cache command give more detail.
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16:38<PHeanEX>dark-jedi: with apt-get install -f i would install the dependencies on the "host" and not in the chrooted environment piuparts created for this purpose?!
16:39<marcham93>Great, thanks for the help!
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16:39<PHeanEX>retrospectacus: i mean the right tool for testing? if piuparts does not handle dependencies what is it then good for?
16:41<retrospectacus>what the heck is puiparts
16:41<PHeanEX>retrospectacus: piuparts sry
16:42<PHeanEX>retrospectacus: https://wiki.debian.org/piuparts
16:42<retrospectacus>oh, ok. no idea
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16:43<retrospectacus>maybe try #debian-mentors
16:43<PHeanEX>retrospectacus: already did ... no answer
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17:36<marcham93>Another question, I just got up and running with Debian 7, but the UI looks like Gnome 2 not Gnome 3? Am I missing a package of sorts?
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17:37<marcham93>When I say Gnome 3, I'm expecting to see the new "Activities" area, no longer "Applications" and "Places".
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17:39<musca>marcham93: you will need 3D acceleration
17:40<marcham93>musca, awesome - will add it in the vm. thanks!
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17:42<marcham93>musca - Enabled it in the vm, but see no difference even though I have the graphic drivers installed. Do I have to enable it within system settings?
17:43<Brigo>marcham93, did you install gnome3 already?
17:44<marcham93>Yes, I've got 3.4 on the system.
17:44<Brigo>and did you select it in the login screen?
17:45<marcham93>Yes, it's selected. I'm double checking to make sure direct rendering is on for graphics.
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17:46<marcham93>Yep, director render/video acceleration is on.
17:46<marcham93>direct*
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17:48<marcham93>Ah, figured it out. The driver for vmware is installed, but it is not compuled with 3d acceleration enabled.
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18:15<Scared>hi everybody, can I ask a question about installing debian in here?
18:15<Scared>I kind of have a problem.
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18:16<mtn>Scared: yup, this is a good place for it
18:17<Scared>mtn: thanks. Here is the problem:
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18:18<bugtraq>reset the net
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18:21<Scared>I have a hard drive with 6 partitions on it, the first one is used by windows 7 (64bit) for the boot stuff, the second is the windows 7 partition, and the 3rd is my data partition, and on the 4th and the 5th partitions I have ubuntu 12.04 and swap, now I can't format my drive, and I also don't have a DVD/CD drive, I only have a DVD image of debian
18:21<Scared>which I have put on my flash usb stick and have made it bootable. All I want to do is to replace ubuntu with debian 7.5. Now everything is alright, except when I boot to my USB and do the partitioning, when I hit finish, I get the "No efi partition was found" warning, what shuld I do?
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18:22<Scared>do you folks need more info?
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18:23<mtn>Scared: how are you doing partitioning, or do you mean during the install process?
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18:24<Scared>mtn: I do it during the installation process.
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18:25<Scared>I choose manual and then I remove the ubuntu partition, then I automatically partition it for debian
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18:25<Scared>160.9GB for / and 4.5 GB for swap is allocated by the installer...
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18:26<Scared>then I want to proceed but I get that warning.
18:26<mtn>Scared: hopefully someone knows more about efi than I do and can help
18:26<Scared>:(
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18:27<Scared>would it help if I set BIOS to load the flash usb stick in legacy mode and not UEFI ?
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18:27<mtn>Scared: sure worth a try
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18:30<stripe>Scared, probably no help but I run debian with a grub menu on a efi motherboard
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18:31<stripe>I just have to make sure it is set to boot from that hard drive, sorry no idea how to set it to point at a partition
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18:34<Scared>At the moment I have a working linux system (ubuntu 12.04) running perfectly fine right beside my Win7 and I can boot to the both of tham and I installed both of these OSes using a flash usb stick
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18:34<Scared>I have a grub menu too....
18:34<Scared>I can boot to both of the OSes.
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18:38<stripe>Scared, when trying to install are you choosing the partitions manualy?
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18:40<Scared>stripe: yes.
18:40<Scared>why?
18:41<stripe>thats what I would have done changed the ubuntu partition to /
18:42<Scared>what do you mean?
18:43<stripe>picked the manual install from the menu and changed the partition instead of the automatic replace ubuntu with debian option
18:43<mtn>stripe: maybe should have gone the auto route
18:44<stripe>mtn possibly
18:44<Scared>stripe: yes that's what Iam doing, Ipartion my HD manually
18:44<Scared>guys I am afraid if I go auto Imight get my whole data and windows 7 partitions removed....
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18:45<mtn>Scared: if it says only replace ubuntu, that is what it will do.
18:45<stripe>Scared I would think that as well, but I dont know for sure
18:46<Scared>there was no options saying replacing ubuntu. as far as I rememeber.
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18:47<Scared>OK, going to try again.
18:47<Scared>see you folks in a bit
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18:57<Scared>Alright, now when I try non-uefi booting option, I get a message like "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt"...
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20:48<soly>profe
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20:49<Guest12832>hey guys, I just installed a minimal Debian wheezy installation (no x/gnome/kde) and followed the wiki one to one but I still cannot get my wifi to work. iwlist wlan0 scan works and I did configure /etc/network/interface . I know that it's not some hardware incompatibility between laptop and router, because it works on other distros. What else could I do?
20:49<Guest12832>I keep getting No DHCPOFFERS received.
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20:51<petn-randall>Guest12832: You're likely missing firmware. Can you paste the output of 'dmesg'?
20:51<Arrowmaster>dont paste, post on a pastebin site and link
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20:52<petn-randall>Guest12832: Yes, the full output on http://paste.debian.net please.
20:52<Guest12832>petn-randall, Arrowmaster: Is there something I can grep for? Getting the output anywhere is going to be difficult, since the machine is not connected to the network, which is the issue at hand
20:53<petn-randall>Guest12832: No wired network?
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20:54<petn-randall>Guest12832: dmesg | grep -i firmware
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20:55<Guest12832>one second
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20:57<Guest12832>petn-randall, Arrowmaster : /home/aq/Downloads/wireless-tools-udeb_30~pre9-8_amd64.udeb
20:57<Guest12832>Oh snap
20:57<Guest12832>lol, my bad
20:58<Guest12832>petn-randall, Arrowmaster : http://paste.debian.net/103810/
20:58<Arrowmaster>you have the firmware-realtek package installed?
20:58<Guest12832>Yes
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21:01<Guest12832>I also did install wireless-tools, because my router is using wpa2
21:01<Arrowmaster>ive never mucked with wpa2 outside of networkmanager so im not help from here
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21:03<Guest12832>Arrowmaster: Thanks anyway :)
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21:03<petn-randall>Guest12832: Check if your /var/log/daemon.log has any suspicious messages while connecting.
21:05<Guest12832>There isn't really anything, just a bunch of "DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval n"
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21:05<Guest12832>followed by No DHCPOFFERS received.
21:06<Guest12832>No Working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
21:07<petn-randall>Guest12832: The wifi connection part preceding that is more interesting. Did that work fine?
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21:09<Guest12832>There is no wifi connection part before that. It doesn't connect to the wifi. iwscan works fine, I do see my router but I seem to get no IP. My /etc/network/interfaces is pretty generic, copy-pasted right out of the wiki
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21:09<petn-randall>Guest12832: Oh wait, you're connecting the wifi interfaces via /etc/network/interfaces?
21:10<Guest12832>Yes
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21:10<petn-randall>Guest12832: Is there a reason you prefer that over network-manager?
21:12<Guest12832>Yes. I don't have gnome or kde on the machine. It's basically a server installation but unfortunately I can not have a wired connection to the router
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21:23<petn-randall>Guest12832: I gotta catch some sleep, maybe someone else can help you out (or we continue tomorrow). The next step would be to check your config and verify your wifi is properly supported in that kernel version.
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21:23<Guest12832>petn-randall: Thanks a lot, I think I have found the solution, though.
21:24<Guest12832>Since my router uses wpa2, I needed the wpa-supplicant package. I thought it was IN wireless-tools. Turns out it isn't, am in the process of installing it. So if I don't need help tomorrow, it's fixed :)
21:26<petn-randall>Guest12832: Good to hear, have a good one.
21:26<Guest12832>you too, thanks a bunch!
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22:39<Trying>Hello. I do a lot of rebook reading on my linux laptop. But there was an Ebook that I was wanting to get but is was a kindle book. Can that be read on my linux laptop or would I need to install something to view it etc.
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22:45<jmcnaught>Trying: i would just try to open it, there's a good chance that evince or okular or something you already have installed will open it. You might also check out calibre
22:45<oldlaptop>Trying: I belive amazon has a web crapp thing to read kindle stuff
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22:45<oldlaptop>if they provide a windows one as well, it may run in WINE
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22:55<Trying>Sorry I had a connection problem did anyone see my last message about ssh? "Didn't want to post it more than once and bother anyone
22:56<Trying>I don't know if this is supported here but I was told by a person in here that if it was in the debian repo it is supported so if I was miss informed sorry for the question
22:57<oldlaptop>Last thing I see from you is about ebooks
22:58<Trying>I travel a lot needless to say I have to use a lot of open wifi networks at hotels etc and I use tor. And I was setting up a file server to cut down on all the removable media that I normally carry
22:58<Trying>I will be accessing the file server via ssh
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22:59<Trying>How do I run ssh through the tor network? Is there something like proxy chain in the debian repo I need?
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23:00<Trying>I installed tor "sudo apt-get install tor" and I have torsocks what else is there needed?
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23:01<Trying>I would direct this question to the tor channel but they will not give any info about using tor for remote connections.
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23:05<jmcnaught>Trying: this might help: http://www.howtoforge.com/anonymous-ssh-sessions-with-tor (ignore the lenny repo for tor obviously, but it shows how to use connect-proxy)
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