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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-06-23

---Logopened Mon Jun 23 00:00:16 2014
00:00<sney>checkinstall makes weird .debs, it's probably okay for basic autofoo source packages but I don't trust it. I've seen a lot of people come in here with support issues after installing things with checkinstall
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00:04<tuv>sney: ok.. thanks for the feedback
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00:47<laiqun>hello
00:48<laiqun>anybody here ?
00:48<sney>this is a support channel so when nobody is working on a debian issue, it's pretty quiet. if you have a question you can just ask it
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01:19-!-mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ
01:19-!-mode/#debian [-b *!*@122-149-169-55.static.dsl.dodo.com.au] by themill
01:19-!-mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill
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01:35<chenzen>hey guys i used to run sqldeveloper but now loading will be complete but it does not run wat should i do?
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01:42<chealer>chenzen: but now what?
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01:52<chenzen>it seems it crashes but i can run the older version 3.0 but i cant type english FYI i use java 1.7
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02:01<sleser>userdel -r username isnt working am i doing something wrong ?
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02:06<jmw>dpkg: tell sleser about questions
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02:07<erman>@sleser, try sudo userdel -r username
02:10<sleser>worked thanks
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02:30<sleser>the trash has reached its maximum size clean the trash manualy , what do i do in this case ?
02:30<sleser>trashcan looks empty
02:30<Stummi>how do you know it reached its maximum size=
02:30<Stummi>*?
02:31<sleser>popup tells me this
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02:31<sleser>trying to trash something it wont do it
02:32<Stummi>which DM do you use?
02:32<sleser>whats that
02:32<Stummi>gnome, kde, lxde, xfce, etc.
02:32<sleser>kde
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02:33<Stummi>hm, no idea what kde does internally. You could try to get into your trash folder via terminal and see if its really empty
02:33<sleser>where is it at
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02:34<Stummi>I don't know. Not a KDE user
02:34<sleser>k
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02:36<sleser>i think its in /home/sleser/.local/share/Trash/
02:36<sleser>does it make sens
02:38<jm_>you could also try asking in #debian-kde
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02:39<sleser>thanks jm_
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03:12<TobiX>Stummi, sleser: trash folders are standarized by XDG, they should be the same accross (at least) GNOME, KDE, XFCE and LXDE
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03:20<albin_>Hi, I'm having a network-related question
03:21<albin_>I'm building a router with three interfaces; a wireless AP (wlan0), a WAN interface (eth0) and a LAN interface (eth1). It does DHCP via dnsmasq and NAT and all the usual stuff
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03:21<albin_>However, I've been forced to put the wlan and the LAN on different subnets (192.168.1.0 and 192.168.0.0 respectively)
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03:22<albin_>I've been told that I can somehow avoid this via bridging, but I can't find anyone describing how to do this, and I don't even know what to search the web for (all the obvious formulations have so far failed)
03:22<albin_>Would greatly appreciate any help
03:22<jm_>tried https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections ?
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03:23<albin_>jm_ I'll take a look at it
03:23<albin_>I'm not even sure which interface I should bridge with which
03:24<albin_>Yes, I've looked at it
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04:14<phillipsjk>sounds like you want to bridge wlan0 (wireless AP) and eth1 (LAN)
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04:16<phillipsjk>due to the state of wireless adapters, I have been using cheap routers as access points, connecting them to the LAN with a switch. (ro do that you essentially disable DHCP and don'r touch the WAN interface.
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05:04<chenzen>can somebody recommend an application like konqueror that can be a web browser and file manager?
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05:07<Stummi>chenzen, whats the problem with konqueror?
05:08<Stummi>(and why do you want one application for doing two completly different tasks?)
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05:10<devil>umh, because systemd can do 10 at a time? :P
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05:10<Stummi>devil, if i remember correct thats the exact reason why systemd is crap ;)
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05:11*devil likes it :)
05:11<Stummi>but if you ask the systemd guys, they might add a builtin file- and webbrowser
05:11<devil>probably so :)
05:11<Stummi>based on the builtin displayserver ofc
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05:12<chenzen>Stummi, i dont have kde dats y im looking for a app like that and dont want to use KDE
05:12<DarkUranium>Stummi: I'm just wondering when will systemd and emacs merge (but I'm not sure which will merge with which)
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05:12<Stummi>chenzen, microsoft explorer can be used as both, file and webbrowser, too ;)
05:12<stdhell>DarkUranium: systemacsd?
05:12<devil>chenzen: there is no other browser that does that.
05:13<DarkUranium>Stummi, stdhell: prooly emacs will merge systemd to create an EmacsOS that works on its own; I'll bet Hurd is just a diversion to keep the eyes away from the *real* GNU OS in progress
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05:14<Stummi>DarkUranium, well, emacs just needs to ship its own kernel, so you can boot into emacs directly
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05:18<chenzen>Stummi, isnt there anyplugin dat can be add to nautilus or sth like dat?
05:18<Stummi>no idea. I don't use one of them
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05:38<DarkUranium>Stummi: bah, been trying to link you an article regarding systemd that I have bookmarked somewhere, but can't find it =|
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06:16<sakax>I have to join an important Citrix webinar session tomorrow. Will this work out-of-the box on Debian Wheezy? I won't have time to look for solutions when the session will kick off. I am a participant of the session, no mediator. Thanks
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06:16<sakax>I have Chromium and Iceweasel installed as browser
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06:18<Brigo>sakax, ifaik citrix is not in debian
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06:19<sakax>I have to watch the Citrix webinar, not organise it. Doesnt this work out of the box in a webbrowser environment or do we have to install Cirix software components?
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06:21<jm_>you'll probably have to find that out by reading citrix documentation, i.e. if it supports those browsers on linux
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06:23<babilen>sakax: You will have to enable multiarch, install the citrix receiver package from citrix (no idea where to get hold of it, but shouldn't be hard to google) with dpkg -i and then run "apt-get -f install" to install missing dependencies.
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06:25<sakax>ok will do some reading. thank you all
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06:25<babilen>sakax: Actually I am not too familiar with Citrix' products so you might need a different client. Check with citrix support and/or the person organising that webinar. Installation of applicable software should work in the aforementioned manner.
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06:27<babilen>sakax: Your personal google service came up with: http://support.citrixonline.com/en_US/gotomeeting/all_files/GTM130019#What_are (and linux on there too)
06:28<babilen></offtopic>
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06:30<sakax>thanks babilen
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06:32<sakax>babilen: the system requirements i received from them are as following: https://support.citrixonline.com/webinar/all_files/G2W010003
06:32<sakax>no linux, I will give it a try with my android tablet
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06:34<sakax>but if i look at their Mac requirements I think it should be able to work on Debian too honestly
06:34<sakax>will report back tomorrow :D
06:34<babilen>It looks as if they use run-of-themill web technologies so I woulnd't be too surprised if it works on Linux
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06:35<babilen>but but but ... what would happen to the funny?
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06:52<inkbottle>Hi, I plan to acquire a 3/4To external hard drive to retrieve data from several old computers; it would probably be wise if the files are encrypted. Is there anything I should definitely know before I proceed?
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06:55<SynrGy>dunno about the encryption side of things. just be aware that with really old computers, larger drives requiring gpt may be an issue for booting
06:55<SynrGy>if the large drive isn't your boot drive, don't worry about this
06:55<babilen>inkbottle: Buy any suitable external harddrive and encrypt it using dm-crupt/LUKS and then create suitable filesystems on there. To get around problems with UID/GID you might have to use something like NTFS or VFAT (in particular if you want to get data from MAC or Windows hosts)
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06:56<babilen>inkbottle: See https://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/DMCrypt for the dm-crypt side of that
06:56<inkbottle>babilen: ok
06:58<babilen>That documentation is .. well ... not really something you want to read :)
06:58<babilen>https://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions is better
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07:04<inkbottle>babilen: So, to start with, "any" external hard drive is likely to be all right? Just as a matter of example, this: "WD My Book Essential 3 TB External hard drive" (first in the google list), would be something I could work on?
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07:06<jm_>I have 3T version of that, it works OK, except the USB 3.0 part (need to test with newer kernels)
07:06<babilen>inkbottle: I wouldn't recommend MyBooks, but yeah .. generally speaking any external harddrive is fine. I have reasonably good experiences with Seagate ones.
07:06<inkbottle>jm_: except the usb part...
07:07<jm_>inkbottle: I use it in usb 2.0 port (I rather wait longer than to experience USB disconnects over 3.0)
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07:18<inkbottle>jm_: ok, sure
07:20<inkbottle>babilen: "generally speaking any external hard drive id fine": ok, thanks
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07:22<inkbottle>babilen: I have bookmarks the links you provided me with...
07:23<inkbottle>bye everybody
07:23<babilen>o/
07:23<inkbottle>bookmarked*
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09:08<slipshot>does anyone the the command to open the kde4 control center?
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09:19<devil>ups, he is gone
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09:52<solut>Hi all I have a question, Some webpages use from what i see flash files to provide readable "texts" is it possible or any tip to download those files as pdf or something?
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09:52<solut>here is an example for what I mean
09:52<solut>http://taexeiola.blogspot.gr/2011/06/algevra-lykeiou-mathimatika-ebook.html
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09:53<Nikita>hello, does anybody oline?
09:54<Maulkin>Nikita: What do you mean?
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09:54<Stummi>No one is online here
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09:54<solut>We are all online :P
09:55<Stummi>solut, you could dig into the source of this webpage to see if the flash plugins just gets a link to a pdf file as parameter
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09:56<Stummi>I am pretty sure all the flash plugin does is loading a pdffile from anywhere and display at to you. You just have to find out how the plugin knows which file to load
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09:56<Nikita>I have debian 6 on virtualbox. I've updated kernel to 3.2 and after that I'd had kernel panic? Why kernel updated badly, and can I slove this problem without reinstallation kernel?
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09:57<Maulkin>solut: No, basically. I can't see it requesting a PDF from teh network.
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09:58<solut>Maulkin, yeah me too any yips to save it somehow on a readable fortmat?
09:58<solut>*tips
09:58<Stummi>Nikita, debian 6 is old and not longer supported
09:58<Stummi>how did you got a 3.2 kernel into debian 6?
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10:00<Nikita>aptitude install linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
10:00<Nikita>debian 6 is stable for servers
10:00<Stummi>debian stable is stable for servers
10:01<Nikita>I will install asterisk 11 on debian 6. sysadmid said that 7 debian is still unstabe
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10:02<planetmaker>your sysadmin is wrong.
10:02<Stummi>Nikita, you should fire your sysadmin
10:02<Stummi>;)
10:02<Stummi>debian 6 is unsupported, thus not stable. (As you maybe noticed by your kernel panic)
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10:04<Nikita>I have 6.0.9 it's almost 7, isn't it?
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10:04<Stummi>no
10:04<Iridos>well, really, the kernel panic shouldn't happen with old versions either as they used to be "stable"
10:04<Stummi>if you insist on using debian 6 you can only use software from debian 6 age.
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10:05<Stummi>Iridos, since he has 3.2, I am pretty sure his kernel doesn't come from the debian 6 repos
10:05<Iridos>well, there's that then
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10:07<Nikita>I just added backports in sources.list
10:07<centrx>The backports kernel should work in Debian 6/squeeze
10:07<centrx>Nikita, You added squeeze-backports, right?
10:08<Nikita>will asterisk 10 or 11 worlk good on debian 7? Please said me if you have already tried it
10:09<Stummi>,v asterisk
10:09<judd>Package: asterisk on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.6.2.9-2+squeeze12; squeeze-security: 1:1.6.2.9-2+squeeze12; squeeze-backports: 1:1.8.13.1~dfsg-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.8.13.1~dfsg1-3+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 1:1.8.13.1~dfsg1-3+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 1:11.10.2~dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:11.10.2~dfsg-1; sid: 1:11.10.2~dfsg-1
10:09<Stummi>wheezy-backports has 11
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10:11<centrx>They increased the asterisk version number from 1.8 to 11.10 ?
10:11<centrx>within one release cycle?
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10:12<centrx>Nikita, It should work with squeeze
10:12<Nikita>you can install 1.8 by apt-get install
10:13<Nikita>sorry, but I don't understand wheezy and squeze
10:13<centrx>Nikita, You may want to upgrade to wheezy because squeeze is the old release, but it is not necessary given that squeeze-lts will be around for a couple of years
10:13<centrx>Nikita, They are the code names of Debian 6 and Debian 7
10:14<Stummi>centrx, seems to be not so uncommon when projects are doing this
10:14<Stummi>sun did the same from java 1.4 to java 5
10:14<Nikita>debian 7 is sqeezy?
10:14<centrx>All kinds of inflation are bad!
10:14<Stummi>maybe when the maintainers realize there won't be a new "major" release
10:14<centrx>Nikita, Six is squeeze. Seven is wheezy
10:14<Stummi>and the current minor releases are actual major releases
10:15<centrx>Nikita, All the Debian code names are characters from Toy Story
10:15<Nikita>o
10:15<Nikita>ok
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10:22<tuxcrafter>i crashed my debian stable server by running blkid /dev/*
10:22<tuxcrafter>as root
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10:22<tuxcrafter>instead of blkid /dev/sd*
10:22<tuxcrafter>is that reproducable
10:23<tuxcrafter>it had iscsi disks and kvm guests running
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12:03<mamie>hi
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12:05<Blizzbob>I need your help. I just installed fetchmail on a Debian 7 system. I configured the required .fetchmailrc file but i always get this error code: "IMAP< A0002 BAD Invalid login". My login data is correct. Can you help me please.
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12:11<centrx>Blizzbob, I would a) Search the Web with snippets of the error message and "fetchmail"
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12:11<centrx>Blizzbob, b) Look at bugs.debian.org and the upstream fetchmail bug system for any reports of similar problems
12:12<centrx>Blizzbob, c) Make sure you have the latest software updates installed
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12:13<centrx>* bugs.debian.org/fetchmail
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12:17<mamie>On my side, I have a problem I can't manage to solve.
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12:17-Blizzbob:#debian-centrx: a) i already searched the web and there are some fixes but they somehow do not work for me
12:17<mamie>I would like to access anc encfs folder from proftpd
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12:17<mamie>(proftpd launched as my user)
12:17<mamie>but proftpd can not even see the folder
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12:18<centrx>Blizzbob, What is the cause of this error?
12:19<Blizzbob>centrx: the guys in some forums say that you should switch the protocol used. From IMAP to IMAP4rev1 kind of thing
12:20<centrx>Okay, that makes sense. Find out what protocol your server uses. It might even not have IMAP at all.
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12:26<Blizzbob>centrx: my provider supports both IMAP and POP3 so i switched over to POP3. I now can connect to the server but after that i run the command "fetchmail -a" which should save all mails to a folder i get this error code: "Option --folder is not supported with POP3"
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12:27<centrx>yeah the behavior/default behavior for these protocols is different
12:27<centrx>be careful
12:28<centrx>It could be the IMAP4rev1 or some other version if you want to continue using IMAP. This diagnoses the problem well
12:29<Blizzbob>but when i select the IMAP4rev1 protocol i get a syntax error while running fetchmail -a
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12:29<centrx>What is that error message?
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12:31<Blizzbob>fetchmail:/home/pi/.fetchmailrc:2: syntax error at IMAP4rev1
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12:32<centrx>Okay, that must not be the name to use for specifying it in the fetchmail configuration
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12:33<centrx>It looks like there is a list of available protocols in the fetchmail manpage
12:33<Blizzbob>in the man page of fetchmail it says IMAP4rev1
12:33<centrx>For IMAP it says IMAP
12:33<centrx>IMAP2bis, IMAP4, or IMAP4rev1 (fetchmail autodetects their capabilities).
12:34<centrx>So I guess it's something else
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12:38<Blizzbob>in my .fetchmailrc config file i have this line here "mda 'formail -c >> /home/pi/mail/.INBOX.Mail' ". do you think this is right, because the error code says "Option --folder is not supported with POP3"
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12:44<centrx>Blizzbob, There might be more knowlegeable people in a Fetchmail channel, probably #fetchmail on Freenode
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13:15<mtnt>hello there, how safe to do dist-upgrade from wheezy-backports?
13:16<shayanpooya>Hello. How is a program started when a deb package is installed?
13:16<centrx>mtnt, Generally there's no reason to. It is probably imprudent to do it.
13:16<mtnt>centrx, ic, thanks
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13:16<centrx>shayanpooya, What program?
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13:17<retrospectacus>shayanpooya: "dpkg -L packagename" will tell you what files it installed, if that helps
13:17<shayanpooya>@centrx when I install a debian package, the installed program starts automatically
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13:17<centrx>shayanpooya, Programs that start at boot have scripts in /etc/init.d
13:18<shayanpooya>@retrospectacus Thanks that helped.
13:18<centrx>shayanpooya, These scripts and when they run and if they are enabled and so forth can have their settings changed with update-rc.d
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13:19<shayanpooya>I have a deb package that starts a process as root. Is there a good way to start it as another user?
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13:19<shayanpooya>Or should I do sudo su inside the script that runs the program?
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13:19<retrospectacus>the start-stop-daemon has a "run as" option or so
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13:21<retrospectacus> --user, that is
13:21<shayanpooya>My script has a clause like this:
13:21<shayanpooya>start_server() {
13:21<shayanpooya> ${RELBIN}/disco start
13:21<shayanpooya> errcode=\$?
13:21<shayanpooya> return \$errcode
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13:21<centrx>oh golly
13:21<retrospectacus>--chuid, rather
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13:23<shayanpooya>@retrospectacus Where should I add this option
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13:23<retrospectacus>can't - your script does not use start-stop-daemon
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13:24<retrospectacus>try using 'su - shayan -c "${RELBIN}/disco start" ' or so, if you like
13:24<shayanpooya>Ok. Thanks.
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13:42<nikolai>Hello
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13:53<vals>hi, i suspended my laptop closing the lid and i found it turned off when i was back. here are some lines from the log files: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/561a4253
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13:54<nikit__>hi, im going to install mysql-server mysql-client but i get this error, what should i do?
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13:54<nikit__> mysql-client : Depends: mysql-client-5.5 but it is not going to be installed
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13:54<nikit__> mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.5 but it is not going to be installed
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13:54<Brigo>,v mysql-client
13:54<judd>Package: mysql-client on i386 -- squeeze: 5.1.73-1; squeeze-security: 5.1.73-1; wheezy: 5.5.35+dfsg-0+wheezy1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.5.37-0+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 5.5.37-0+wheezy1; jessie: 5.5.37-1; sid: 5.5.37-1
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13:55<nikit__>so what to do? what not to do? :D
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13:58<nikit__>any body ther?
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13:59<sven>nikit__: any weirdo combination of sources or versions?
13:59<sven>nikit__: you can likely do 'aptitude install mysql-server mysql-client', which will explain better what the issue is about
13:59<sven>be careful about accepting its suggestions, though.
13:59<tiekookeit>paste the output of sed '/^#/d;/^$/d' /etc/apt/sources.list
14:01<nikit__>deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib
14:01<nikit__>deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib
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14:02<tiekookeit>only this?
14:02<nikit__>yes
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14:02<sven>dude
14:02<sven>nikit__: who set it up? :)
14:02<nikit__>me :D
14:03<tiekookeit>is this a real server or just a test machine?
14:03<nikit__>test machine
14:04<tiekookeit>ok, so try this
14:04<nikit__>can i use it for real server?
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14:04<nikit__>or it is crazy thing?
14:04<nikit__>k
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14:05<tiekookeit>mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
14:05<tiekookeit>echo 'deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free' >/etc/apt/sources.list
14:05<tiekookeit>apt-get update && apt-get install mysql-server
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14:05<nikit__>very thank you
14:06<tiekookeit>take care with sources.list file, you must know whare are you doing there
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14:06<nikit__>okay
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14:06<tiekookeit>mix sources may result on a very unstable system
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14:07<nikit__>aha
14:08<babilen>tiekookeit: Please don't recommend ftp.debian.org but a metamirror such as http.debian.net (that chooses a good mirror automagically)
14:08<tiekookeit>ty for info, dieing and learning
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14:09<babilen>tiekookeit: Oh, and never use "stable" but always the explicit release names (otherwise you will run into unpleasant surprises if the next stable release was today)
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14:09<tiekookeit>Iam doing that since woody
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14:10<tiekookeit>time to time i do aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade on the servers i kite
14:10<nikit__>can i install kde 4.13 on wheezy?
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14:11<nikit__>with unstable source
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14:14<tiekookeit>hum.. you can try, but I think you should upgrade you machine to unstable and remove wheezy source, then work with unstable only, that is the way I would do
14:14<tiekookeit>And maybe something will brake
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14:15<tiekookeit>why dont you download unstable debian so? isnt is a test machine as you said
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14:16<nikit__>i use debian stable on my server and on my desktop
14:17<nikit__>bad my server is a test machine
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15:08<shayanpooya>Hello, I have two packages that write the exact same file (one is python-3 package and the other one is
15:09<shayanpooya>a python-2 package).
15:09<shayanpooya>How can I avoid conflict between these two packages?
15:09<shayanpooya>So that they can be installed together
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15:27<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell shayanpooya about basic apt troubleshooting
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15:36<warzone>hi all, i have a BCM43228 wireless chipset. I tried WL package installation and configuration on Debian manual; but i can't depmod wl cause it says : no such file or directory. I looked a lot on this error but i can't solve it.
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15:37<retrospectacus>warzone: "depmod wl" is incorrect. See https://wiki.debian.org/wl
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15:38<warzone>i'm using gnome on wheezy. It recognize my bluetooth but my wireless is not recognized
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15:39<warzone>i followed https://wiki.debian.org/wl
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15:39<warzone>not depmod modprobe* wl
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15:40<retrospectacus>if modprobe wl failed, then there was a problem with broadcom-sta-dkms installation - please show us that step and output using http://paste.debian.net
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15:42<warzone>it worked
15:43<warzone>can't even say how and why it does,
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15:47<warzone>i have an other trouble, i have a radeon hd 7970 and i followed this https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary to install it but it looks like i can't load the driver even after xorg.conf configuration.
15:49<warzone>but for now i have many xorg.conf files, maybe these files are in conflicts?
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15:50<hydra1>I had a question about mirror lists if someone could help me out
15:51<retrospectacus>!ask
15:51<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:51<hydra1>I just installed debian on an old Power Mac G5
15:51<hydra1>using the DVD
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15:52<hydra1>i was wondering on the mirror list if you had to specify which architecture youre using
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15:52<retrospectacus>hydra1: no
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15:53<hydra1>awesome so just comment out the deb cdrom line and add the correct deb & deb-src for my region?
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15:53<retrospectacus>hydra1: yep:
15:53<retrospectacus>!sources.list
15:53<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list".
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15:57<warzone>ok i tried lspci -k to see what are the kernel driver in use. On VGA compatible controller it says fglrx_pci is in use. The problem is that i have a lot of screen lag
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15:59<warzone>3.2.0-4-rt-amd64
15:59<kenyon>maybe your computer is just old and slow
16:00<warzone>hd radeon 7970
16:00<warzone>m4 crucial
16:00<warzone>rog maximus v formula motherboard
16:00<warzone>8 ddr3 2400 mhz
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16:02<babilen>warzone: Which fglrx version?
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16:03<warzone>what is the input command; it will be faster
16:04<warzone>modinfo?
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16:05<kenyon>warzone: apt-cache policy libfglrx
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16:08<warzone>1.14
16:08<warzone>1:14.4.2-1kali
16:09<babilen>dpkg: kali
16:09<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
16:09<warzone>omg
16:09<warzone>seriously lol
16:09<babilen>little old ladies have nothing to do with this :)
16:10<babilen>But yeah, seriously. (that package version isn't even in any Debian release, install Debian if you want support in here as only that is support by us for a number of technical and social reasons). All the best!
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16:10<warzone>if i'm going to ask these questions on kali channel , they 'll probably say this version is not for u
16:11<babilen>You are using Kali aren't you
16:11<babilen>?
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16:12<warzone>ye
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16:12<babilen>warzone: Well, so seek support in #kali-linux rather than #debian. There is also ##linux and #ati if you seek non-distribution specific help.
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16:14<warzone>take a look on these channel
16:14<babilen>Which channel?
16:14<warzone>all of them
16:14<babilen>And?
16:15<babilen>They are on irc.freenode.net fwiw
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16:15<warzone>ty babylien
16:15<warzone>babi*
16:15<kenyon>tab completion, yo
16:16<warzone>even if you are such resilient
16:17<babilen>warzone: It is easy: Only Debian is supported in #debian. Just install Debian and you are welcome here but it is *your* decision to *not* use Debian, so live with the consequences. Have a good day and may you solve your problem.
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16:44<solydxk>hey
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16:45<solydxk>who are you
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17:08<grummund>Hi, to supply wifi driver during debian installation should i just copy /lib/firmware/*.ucode to a partition on usb flash drive?
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17:12<Nemoder>http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
17:12<retrospectacus>http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04
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17:13<sol-system-three>Hi, I am trying to compile opencascade 6.7.1 and I keep getting this err: clCreateImage2D was not declared in this scope. The opencascade forum seems quite slow, and there seems to be a lack of any irc channel for them. Anybody have an idea as to how to fix this error?
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17:16<retrospectacus>sol-system-three: I suppose you need some openCL library(ies) - do the compilation/installation instructions for opencascade mention any such prerequisites?
17:17<grummund>Nemoder: thank you i wasn't aware of those images
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17:29<sol-system-three>retrospectacus: For a different app I found a post about using a compiler option to turn the error into a warning.
17:30<sol-system-three>retrospectacus: -DCL_USE_DEPRECATED_OPENCL_1_1_APIS Although that failed to help.
17:30<sol-system-three>retrospectacus: According to configure I have all the required libs and headers.
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20:39<booboy>hello all!
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20:45<retrospectacus>hello booboy !
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20:49<booboy>how goes it
20:49<abrotman>!ask
20:49<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
20:50<retrospectacus>!chat
20:50<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or #defocus on irc.freenode.net.
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