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01:01<alumno>hola
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01:01<jm_>!es
01:01<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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01:02<alumno>jbjj
01:02<alumno>ola
01:02<alumno>alguien
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01:02<acald3ron>alumno, Entra al canal #debian-es
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01:06<James>trying to figure out how i can put one source to go via a proxy instead of all (apt)
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01:08<jm_>I don't think apt supports that, but it should be doable with preloadable lib
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01:16<jmcnaught>James: maybe with apt-cacher-ng. Its on config allows you to specify an additional proxy. On the webpage it shows how to specify using apt-cacher-ng with only specific sources: https://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~bloch/acng/
01:16<jmcnaught>s/on/own
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01:16<James>ah kk
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01:20<jm_>hah even apt supports that it seems
01:21<jm_>look in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz, // Options for the downloading routines and the DIRECT entry there (I was curious once I saw it mentioned in apt-cacher-ng FAQ)
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01:23<jmcnaught>jm_: good find! this was a pretty interesting question James :)
01:23<James>onice
01:25<jm_>jmcnaught: indeed, I have checked that file a few times but never paid much attention to the proxy section outside of one proxy for everything (used that for a while)
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02:20<lgp171188>Hi, I see that my debian installation has both gpg 1.x and gpg 2.x installed. How do I set the gpg 2.x to be the default? Are there any issues I should be aware of while doing so?
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02:32<jm_>lgp171188: simply use the right command, gpg2 instead of gpg
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02:42<somenamevm>When I do a Tracert on my windows machine to another IP on my LAN, the route shows only 1 line or hop, it takes less than 1 ms and it shows the host name and ip address that I typed in for the tracert
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02:43<somenamevm>When I do a Traceroute on Devian running in a virtual machine in that same windows computer to that same other computer on the LAN, it shows 2 lines and it shows an IP like 10.0.2.2
02:45<ncl_>that would be the bridged connection from your vm to your LAN
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02:47<somenamevm>So the virtual machine lan shown in windows is not what I was thinking it was, that is a virtual ethernet card?
02:48<somenamevm>If it is a virtual LAN then am I correct in assuming that the virtual LAN is a different distinct network from my ...regular LAN?
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02:49<jm_>that should depend on your VM settings
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02:50<somenamevm>I see, I will check that out thanks
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02:51<somenamevm>I see my settings call it a host only network
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02:52<jm_>is that virtualbox?
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02:53<somenamevm>Yes
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02:54<jm_>host-only network there should mean it can't contact systems other than other VM-s on the same host or the host itself
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02:55<somenamevm>I see. Well that was a pretty important fact for me to now
02:55<jm_>perhaps read https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html
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02:56<somenamevm>I am going to read it now, thanks for the information
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03:22<twb>I have a bunch of wheezy chroots, with different package lists installed. I want to generate something *like* a debsecan report, but for all of them, and preferably without having to install debsecan itself into each chroot.
03:22<twb>I vaguely remember something about telling dpkg "hey your status files are <over there> instead of /var/lib/dpkg" -- where should I be looking for that stuff?
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03:24<twb>Looks like --admindir from dpkg(1).
03:24<twb>Now to see about telling debsecan about that.
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03:26<twb>Hm, debsecan --status /.../var/lib/dpkg/status maybe
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03:29<twb>Yeah that looks good.
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03:43<feverDream>folks, I bought a external hard-drive and formatted it with ext4. It works and all, but I have to copy files with sudo ?
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03:43<feverDream>not sure what the problem is? any ideas?
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03:44<feverDream>also, I added a line in /etc/fstab for the device; /dev/sdb1 /home/abhiram/usb-drive auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
03:44<jm_>user only means user can mount it, not that copying will work if file permissions are wrong
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03:45<feverDream>jm_: file permissions for the mount-point?
03:47<jm_>feverDream: well wherever you want to copy
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03:51<feverDream>jm_: yup, I checked the mount points permission; drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 26 12:19 usb-drive
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03:52<jm_>feverDream: what is mounting it?
03:53<feverDream>jm_: I am mounting it via thunar, clicking on th device icon seems to work.
03:53<jm_>feverDream: as user?
03:53<feverDream>jm_: yes, mouting as a regular user
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03:54<jm_>feverDream: interesting, I would have thought that would do the right thing with regards to permissions
03:54<feverDream>jm_: yeah it beats me, never had a problem with thumb drives though.
03:55<jm_>feverDream: perhaps try something ala pmount
03:57<feverDream>feverDream: pmount? let me check
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03:58<feverDream>jm_: its not on my system, I guess I have to install it
03:58<jm_>feverDream: yeah, not installed by default
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04:00<feverDream>jm_: should I run it with sudo?
04:01<jm_>feverDream: there's a note about this in /usr/share/doc/pmount/README.Debian IIRC
04:01<feverDream>jm_: neat!
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04:08<rryoumaa>rmadison reports like "gnupg | 1.4.12-7+deb7u4 | wheezy-security | source, amd64, armel...". what is this wheezy-security? i have "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib" which reports "1.4.12-7+deb7u3 0"
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04:09<themill>,v gnupg
04:09<judd>Package: gnupg on i386 -- squeeze: 1.4.10-4+squeeze4; squeeze-security: 1.4.10-4+squeeze4; wheezy: 1.4.12-7+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 1.4.12-7+deb7u4; jessie: 1.4.16-1.1; sid: 1.4.16-1.2
04:10<jm_>so try apt-get update then
04:10<themill>rryoumaa: sounds like you need to apt-get update
04:10<rryoumaa>so they are the same repo?
04:11<themill>yes
04:11<jm_>wheezy/updates is wheezy-security yes
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04:11<lasagn4>hi
04:11<rryoumaa>strange though that without updating one would work differently
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04:11<themill>rryoumaa: eh?
04:11<lasagn4>anyone know how to verify the truecrypt 7.1a on https://www.grc.com/misc/truecrypt/truecrypt.htm ?
04:11<rryoumaa>(i ran both tools without updating in between)
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04:12<themill>rryoumaa: rmadison isn't looking at your local sources
04:12<lasagn4>i don't see any signature files on that site
04:12<jm_>rmadison talks to debian servers, i tdoes not rely on apt cache
04:12<rryoumaa>ah
04:12<rryoumaa>great
04:12<themill>rryoumaa: r is for remote
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04:16<feverDream>jm_: pmount doesn't seem to work, the device is still mounted as root:root
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04:19<feverDream>jm_: I think the *only* option is to change the permissions of the mount-point after the file-system is mounted.
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04:22<jm_>feverDream: yeah probably for ext4
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07:03<sabbu>anybody watch harry potter
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08:20<ballock>oh,sorry
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08:20<ballock>the / on my keyboard is a little out of order
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08:59<kg>Hello
09:00<kg>Oh, he left already :(
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09:22<andahlst>how can I get output through my USB soundcard? the USB soundcard shows up in the list of cards in alsamixer but I can't figure out how to choose it as the output device
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09:31<aahls>how do I set ALSA output device to a USB soundcard? The card shows up in alsamixer but I can't figure out how to select that one.
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09:34<towo^work>aahls, you could use pulseaudio for that
09:34<towo^work>or you can make the usb-sound default for all applicatins
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09:35<towo^work>and at least, many multimedia apps allows the choose the hardware, which should be used
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09:36<aahls>how do I do this with pulseaudio? I have absolutely no familiarity with sound on Linux. VLC has a menu and I am able to pick the USB card on Arch Linux but the menu item is disabled on my Debian computer for some reason.
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09:37<towo^work>with pulseaudo, you can all do that with pavucontrol
09:37<SynrG>in gnome, just settings > sound
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09:37<SynrG>select your device for output there
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09:38<SynrG>otherwise, yes, pavucontrol will do that too (but may not be installed by default)
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09:40<aahls>yeah, I tried that already but it does not show up there. Only with ALSA mixer.
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09:41<SynrG>aahls: are you not running pulseaudio, then?
09:41<SynrG>aahls: maybe you are not in gnome?
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09:41<SynrG>or maybe your device isn't supported?
09:42<aahls>I thought so too but if I play some audio from some app the app shows up in pavucontrol. It is a standard USB DAC so it should work. I use i3 if that is a problem.
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09:46<SynrG>might be. can you temporarily switch to gnome and see?
09:46<SynrG>should 'just work' in gnome
09:46<aahls>sure will do
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09:47<aahls>thanks
09:47<SynrG>then we know if it's a DE/WM-specific issue or something deeper
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10:03<chrishell>hello, after a struckle yesterday with my installation and some very basic packages
10:03<chrishell>I can now use apt for updates and dist-upgrades as well
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10:03<chrishell>BUT, if I ask dpkg --get-selections | wc -l
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10:03<centrx>yay
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10:03<chrishell>I get a 123
10:04<centrx>That's not many
10:04<chrishell>wow, the actual cause for this problem was, that I wanted a smaller system
10:05<centrx>Problem solved!
10:05<chrishell>but this is not the actual count of installed packages
10:05<chrishell>I have a desktop, java, python, ....
10:05<chrishell>at least over 1000 packages
10:06<chrishell>how can I intruduce dpkg with all my packages?
10:06<centrx>What about dpkg -l | wc-l
10:06<centrx>That is the actual list of packages
10:06<Brigo>chrishell, install them again
10:06<centrx>--get-selections is for "selections", which might be different
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10:07<chrishell>dpkg -l | wc -l is 129
10:07<dpkg>ii | wc -l is 129 3.5-3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
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10:07<chrishell>sorry old fellow dpk...
10:08<centrx>chrishell, Why do you say you have desktop, java, python installed? How did you install them?
10:08<chrishell>Brigo: is that the only way, install them again?
10:08<Brigo>chrishell, the only i know
10:09<chrishell>centrx: quit normal with apt over the time,
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10:09<chrishell>I mean I use pidgin here, I have editors, LibreOffice, browsers
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10:10<chrishell>but yesterday, I tried to reduce the count of packages with debfoster
10:10<helmut_>hi
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10:11<chrishell>debfoster crashed during the deinstallation, and after that I had this struggle
10:11<centrx>So perhaps debfoster did in fact uninstall many packages?
10:11<centrx>I would recommend deborphan, it provides a list of packages which you may want to uninstall, without doing it for you.
10:12<centrx>The problem with debfoster/deborphan is they often recommend packages to uninstall that you may want.
10:12<centrx>So you have to use your own judgement to decide to uninstall
10:12<Brigo>no, centrx , it would keep in dpkd database.
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22:17<ic3man5>Hello! Does anyone know if someone is working on porting the nvidia-prime package from ubuntu to debian or implementing something similar?
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22:35<jmcnaught>ic3man5: i don't know about nvidia-prime, but bumblebee is packaged for debian
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22:36<ic3man5>bumblebee doesn't work with my laptop
22:37<ic3man5>so right now I'm using just the nvidia drivers with a custom xorg.conf
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22:38<jmcnaught>ic3man5: i'm not familiar with bumblebee myself, but maybe someone could help you troubleshoot it if you provide more details
22:38<ic3man5>performance just wasn't there and there are a bunch of bugs in mesa/x.org/nvidia/etc.
22:39<ic3man5>Ubuntu implemented nvidia-prime package that allows you to switch xorg with a tray icon between intel only or nvidia gpu
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22:41<ic3man5>It works awesome now since the nvidia driver supports partial optimus support but no power savings ;(
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22:42<ic3man5>nvidia-prime package from ubuntu looks like its the work around but it depends on a lot of ubuntu specific stuff for hardware detection
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23:57<wulong710>each time i use "nautilus" in ubuntu. system show me this error "** (nautilus:3727): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: ". i can`t find solution in google. anyone had met this question?
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23:57<retrospectacus>!ubuntu-irc wulong710
23:57<dpkg>wulong710: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
23:57<wulong710>ok. thank you
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