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02:02<James>what would it take to get more powerdns backends added to the pdns package
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03:07<circ-user-gc4hy>I reported a bug for python-libvirt in wheey-backports source, several days passed, no one reply, How can i ask for deeper help?
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03:14<k6>#channels
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03:14<babilen>circ-user-gc4hy: You could write yet another message to the bug number (which is?) or take it to the mailing lists.
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03:15<circ-user-gc4hy>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=753675
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03:15<circ-user-gc4hy>I used to email with maintainer, but have no answer.
03:16<babilen>circ-user-gc4hy: So that bug has already been fixed?
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03:16<circ-user-gc4hy>fixed in libvirt community source.
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03:17<babilen>Well, your bug has been fixed then. All that is needed is "just" an upload of a new version of python-libvirt
03:17<circ-user-gc4hy>fixed in libvirt community source in 1.2.4version, while wheezy-backports used 1.2.1 version
03:17<babilen>judd: v python-libvirt
03:17<judd>Package: python-libvirt on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.3-5+squeeze5; squeeze-security: 0.8.3-5+squeeze5; squeeze-backports: 0.9.12-11~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.9.12.3-1; wheezy-security: 0.9.12.3-1; wheezy-backports: 1.2.1-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.2.1-2; sid: 1.2.1-2
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03:19<babilen>circ-user-gc4hy: Yeah, in this case it would have made more sense to simply file a wishlist bug in which you ask for the new version. The bug has been fixed and therefore doesn't need to be fixed *again*. I understand that this bug is the reason why you want the new version, but in the end all you want is the new version.
03:19<circ-user-gc4hy>yes, you are right
03:20<circ-user-gc4hy>I wonder how the new version will be packaged
03:20<babilen>As the version you want has also not been uploaded to unstable/sid yet getting hold of 1.2.4 is a bit trickier.
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03:21<babilen>What you, essentially, have to do is to upgrade the original 1.2.1-2 packaging to the new version and then backport that yourself to wheezy. Are you familiar with Debian packaging?
03:21<circ-user-gc4hy>I understand, but the bug blocked many use cases.
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03:22<babilen>Yeah, I completely understand that the bug is nasty and that you want it to be fixed, but as the maintainer has not made the new version available *you* would have to package it if you want to use the Debian packaging.
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03:23<babilen>This is documented in https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/update.en.html and you would then have to backport that package to wheezy.
03:24<babilen>If you are not familiar with Debian packaging that will be a alot of work for very little ... My recommendation would be to simply install python-libvirt in a virtualenv (cf. http://virtualenv.readthedocs.org/en/latest/) with pip (cf. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pip)
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03:25<circ-user-gc4hy>yeah, that's a choice
03:25<babilen>https://pypi.python.org/pypi/libvirt-python/1.2.5 is what you are looking for and installing it *in a virtualenv* should be as easy as "pip install libvirt-python". You probably want to manage your virtual environments with virtualenvwrapper (cf. http://virtualenvwrapper.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ ) which is IMHO the most comfortable way.
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03:26<babilen>virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper and pip have all been packaged in Debian btw.
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03:28<circ-user-gc4hy>I know, that works. But I want to apply this on production environment.
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03:28<circ-user-gc4hy>for this aim, package in debian source is the best choice
03:29<circ-user-gc4hy>Is there any plan for maintainer to package a new version, where can i see it?
03:30<babilen>circ-user-gc4hy: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-libvirt/libvirt-python.git is the repository, but 1.2.5 has also not been added there.
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03:32<babilen>Well, feel free to package it yourself and make it available in your own repository. I just think that it would be easier to use pip for this if packaging software is a lot of work for you.
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03:35<circ-user-gc4hy>Ok, I'll have a try while waiting for the new version. Thanks.
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04:38<twb>Anyone aware of a GTK-flavoured "mind mapping" program? Right now I'm shipping vym (KDE-flavoured), and the only alternatives I can see in aptitude are freemind and freeplane -- both Java-flavoured.
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04:50<SynrGy>twb: use gtk theming with whichever java one you want
04:51<twb>Yeah but it's not the same
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04:51<twb>And I'll still know it's yukky java under the hood
04:51*SynrGy shrugs
04:51<SynrGy>freemind is pretty good
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04:52<SynrGy>get over your biases and just use the software that does the job
04:52<twb>I've hated java ever since my very first uni lecture where the java weenie lecturer said "it's OK if you can't write code, just keep adding RAM until it is OK"
04:53<SynrGy>i see. so maybe you need to see your shrink about it? :)
04:53<twb>maybe
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04:53<twb>Hard to think of java software I've actually liked, tho
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05:44<zem>Where should i ask questions about packages? Is it okay to send mail to the package maintainer or is there some kind of mailing list?
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05:44<jm_>what kind of questions?
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05:45<zem>asterisk package has weird crypto resource
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05:46<zem>i guess it's because of ssl
05:47<zem>i wonder if there is a (easy) way to create package with standard one (i had no luck this far, but i'm not that good with packaging)
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05:51<jm_>you can ask here or on the debian-user list I suppose
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05:52<jm_>also sometimes compile time options are mentioned in /usr/share/doc/<pkgname> files
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05:53<chenzen>my keyboard hotkey such as changing music volume in xfce doesnt work how can i fix the issue?
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05:54<jm_>chenzen: did you check if X gets an event for those keys?
05:55<chenzen>jm_, how do i check?
05:55<mjt>xev?
05:55<jm_>chenzen: run xev, switch focus to it, press the keys, see what is reported after your press one of those keys (compare it to working keys)
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05:56<mjt>for the same theme - at least wifi key on my hp envy notebook produces no events, how to fix that?
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05:57<jm_>no real experience with laptops for me but aren't those special keys often associated with ACPI?
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06:10<mjt>jm_: I've no idea really. I see many notebooks are assotiated with ${vendor}_wmi kernel modules, and I see hp_wmi module is loaded in my case...
06:11<jm_>mjt: and there are no reports of peole using the same model have a working key?
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06:11<jm_>(on linux)
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06:18<chenzen>jm_, it sees the key
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06:19<jm_>chenzen: what's the keysim reported?
06:20<chenzen>KeyPress event XFilterEvent returns:False
06:20<chenzen>lookupstring 0 bytes
06:20<chenzen>same about keyrelease
06:20<jm_>how about something like this keycode 67 (keysym 0xffbe, F1) ?
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06:55<chenzen>jm_, KeyRelease event, serial 39, synthetic NO, window 0x5800001,
06:56<chenzen>jm_, or keysym 0x1008ff14, XF86AudioPlay
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07:03<jm_>chenzen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XfceMultimediaKeys
07:04<jm_>chenzen: steps 8 and 9 I guess
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07:17<grummund>Hi, /boot partition is on a usb flash drive and i'm trying to make a spare (backup) device ...
07:18<grummund>so far i have created filesystem on the new drive, copied across all files from /boot, unmounted /boot and mounted the new drive as /boot instead, run update-grub and update-initramfs -u.
07:19<grummund>however it just hangs with a blank screen when attempting to boot from the new drive. what am i missing?
07:19<petn-randall>grummund: Does the BIOS also boot from that device? If yes, you also have to write grub into that disk.
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07:21<grummund>how should grub be written to the disk? i already did the commands as above ^.
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07:23<olspookishmagus>anyone knows whether debian-rescue contains the smartmontools package or not?
07:23<jm_>grummund: man grub-install
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07:24<jm_>what is debian-rescue?
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07:24<jm_>so obviously not anyone knows
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07:28<SynrGy>olspookishmagus: if you're asking about the live image, it's not called that. i, too, am confused about what 'debian-rescue' is :)
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07:28<SynrGy>olspookishmagus: also, the CD faq (at www.d.o) has advice about how to find what packages are included in the images, including the live ones
07:28<Celant>Debian-rescue is the rescue package some hosts have incase you massively screw up your server
07:28<SynrGy>http://www.debian.org/CD/faq, iirc (didn't verify the link ... gathering things to leave for the office)
07:28<Celant>You install their 'rescue' package to restore the server to something that works
07:29<SynrGy>if you're talking about a package, then 'apt-cache show' surely tells you?
07:29<petn-randall>grummund: grub-install, or 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc'
07:29<olspookishmagus>it's an ISO
07:29<olspookishmagus>therefore it boots you into something
07:29<Celant>Yeah, its basically a liveimage of Debian
07:29<olspookishmagus>does that have smartmontools?
07:29<SynrGy>if it's an ISO, and debian builds it, then the /CD/faq should explain how to find what's in it
07:29<Celant>Depends on the host
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07:29<SynrGy>'basically'? either it is or it isn't ...
07:30<jm_>why bother, just use grml instead
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07:35<grummund>petn-randall: thanks, dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc fixed it and also gave choice of install target.
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07:38<olspookishmagus>jm_: grml?
07:39<jm_>!grml
07:39<dpkg>grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/ #grml on irc.freenode.net.
07:39<jm_>olspookishmagus: ^^^^^^
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07:40<olspookishmagus>jm_: thanks
07:41<jm_>olspookishmagus: no worries
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07:43<MrDARk>hola
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07:50<alumno>hola
07:50<alumno_>ke onm
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07:52<alumno>eh=
07:52<alumno>ñafgñsdfñg
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07:54<olspookishmagus>what was that charset?
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07:54<babilen>olspookishmagus: Nazgul
07:55<babilen>en_ES.utf-8 if we are being generoush
07:55<babilen>*generous
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08:08<olspookishmagus>babilen: is there klingon too?
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08:13<babilen>olspookishmagus: No, not really: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=581524
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08:30<igmp>Hey, can I force network-manager to stop manage eth0 for a while ?
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08:31<jm_>igmp: try https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager
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08:33<babilen>igmp: How do you want to manage it?
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08:35<igmp>babilen: well sometimes I want to configure manually an interface with ip command but nm keep clearing my settings
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08:36<babilen>igmp: NM will not manage interfaces declared in /etc/network/interfaces so that might be an option. You can also stop the NM service if you don't want to use it
08:36<igmp>so I just want a way to disable management on one interface for a while, but I want to keep my wireless connection manage for exemple
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08:37<babilen>Okay, not sure if that is possible.
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08:37<igmp>oh:/
08:38<babilen>igmp: You can probably set it to unmanaged in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
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08:44<igmp>babilen: this solution works
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08:49<xeps>hi
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08:54<babilen>igmp: great :)
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09:53<Sichei>hi
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09:53<Sichei>how do i use apt tools
09:54<sney>!refcard
09:54<dpkg>A short reference of Debian commands - quite useful for someone new to Debian - can be found at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/refcard/refcard.en.pdf and packaged for Debian as debian-refcard. See also <grounding>, <vim refcard>.
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09:58<imavlr>Hey, I have 2 harddrives, one ssd and one hdd, I'm thinking I should put /var, swap and possibly even /home onto the hdd, are there any other high-write directories I'm missing?
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10:17<jepler>so I just noticed something with synaptic 0.75.13 (debian wheezy): Settings > Repository > Updates offers to "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version".
10:18<jepler>because of reasons, I can't file a debian bug right now. Anybody want to verify whether the current version still says it, and if so file one?
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10:21<helmut_>hi
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10:34<canaima>derbe
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10:36<txt-file>jepler: according to https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/synaptic 0.75.13 is the current version
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10:42<plugwash>does anyone have any advice on implementing file retention policies?
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10:44<koollman>plugwash: in which context? (legal policies? security policies? what kind of files?)
10:45<txt-file>jepler: I downloaded the source and searched for ubuntu in the folder but my search program found nothing.
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10:59<plugwash>koollman, basically I have a process that creates a large file, it's supposed to do so every day but sometimes a day gets missed
11:00<plugwash>I want to implement a retention policy where all files are retained for a small period, a subset of files (say one per week) for a longer period and a subset of those (say one per month) forever
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11:08<Brigo>plugwash, i think you are talking about incremental backups
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11:15<grove>plugwash: Look at logrotate
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11:17<plugwash>Brigo, not exactly backups (we don't currently have any backups and could probablly do with setting some up but that is seperate to the issue at hand)
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11:18<Brigo>plugwash, who deletes the created files?
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11:18<plugwash>Right now nobody
11:18<plugwash>they just build up forever
11:19<plugwash>I want a script to retain some (according to a policy) and delete the rest
11:20<plugwash>I can write this from scratch if I have to but I can't imagine it's not a requirement that people have had before
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11:21<centrx>logrotate does this
11:21<Brigo>i can imagine it.
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11:22<grove>plugwash: Except that I don't know if logrotate can implement the policy you want, that's exactly what logrotate does
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11:22<Brigo>if i would have to deal with that, i would try to use some backup manager.
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11:22<plugwash>centrx, how flexible is logrotate, can it deal with fixed user defined filenames? (all the implementations i've seen logrotate renames stuff which is not what I want)
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11:23<centrx>How can you retain a separate file without renaming/moving it?
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11:25<Brigo>plugwash, logrotate can use su (in its configuration) and can launch scripts
11:25<Brigo>i think i could be a good idea.
11:26<grove>centrx: If the filename contains e.g. a timestamp - and I think logrotate has problems with that (or at least that it used to)
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11:29<plugwash>centrx, because the files have unique names from the point they are created
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11:48<mestia>anybody using docker?
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11:49<retrospectacus>!anybody
11:49<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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12:04<alban>Hi everyone, I have no sound on my newly installed jessie, where can I get some help please ?
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12:20<fr33domlover>Hello. I'm using mlterm and I see two problems: First, the "anti alias" tick box is disabled. The only way to enable anti aliasing seems to be `mlterm -A`. Why it is like that? Second, the hinting level seems to be low. Is there a way to change that?
12:21<fr33domlover>In this example the hinting looks good: http://eyegene.ophthy.med.umich.edu/unicode/#mlterm
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12:27<centrx>fr33domlover, You can create an alias in your .bashrc file for mlterm -A
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12:29<fr33domlover>centrx, yes, but maybe it's a bug or something, worth fixing
12:29<fr33domlover>the alias is a workaround just for now
12:29<SynrG>file bugs per issue, and/or consider using an alternative. rxvt-unicode is nice ...
12:29<SynrG>and probably has broader adoption / better support than mlterm
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12:30<fr33domlover>SynrG, thanks. But I need RTL support - does it support RTL?
12:30<SynrG>pretty sure yes
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12:30<babilen>rxvt-unicode has sub-optimal font handling, but is okay(ish) apart from that. I wouldn't use it if you have to handle CJK
12:30<SynrG>dunno
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12:31<SynrG>any other rxvt fork good for that? mrxvt?
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12:32<babilen>I gave up on all of them and just use gnome-terminal these days. It handles German, English, Chinese, Japanese and Arabic without problems. (well, not sure about Arabic as I don't speak it, but it *looks* alright)
12:33<oldlaptop>konsole and other things using konsolepart are good
12:33<oldlaptop>don't think I ever tried RTL stuff in it though
12:34<SynrG>http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/rxvt-unicode.html
12:34<SynrG>"And its main missing features (which users request but are not (yet?) implemented) are: ... Right-to-Left rendering - more info is needed. (use mlterm)"
12:34<SynrG>oh well, guess i was wrong :(
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12:35<babilen>I found rxvt-unicode to be far from ideal if you have to write in different scripts as the limits on font-declaration and fallbacks for different codeblocks are severe
12:35<babilen>And if it doesn't handle RTL it is out of the question anyway
12:35<SynrG>gnome-terminal? (ugh)
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12:37<SynrG>and from mrxvt (wikipedia) "mrxvt does not have Unicode support, though a Unicode version is in development."
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12:37<SynrG>so mlterm is it, i guess, unless you deal with the big desktops
12:38<babilen>SynrG: What's the particular problem with gnome-terminal?
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12:38<oldlaptop>I would like to emphasize that KDE applications are fantastic whether you use plasma or not
12:38<SynrG>babilen: other than bloat? nothing in particular. but i can't speak for its RTL support
12:39<babilen>Well, at least it works and does what you want it to.
12:39<oldlaptop>plasma isn't that great, it's the applications and the plumbing (kparts, etc) underneath
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12:39<SynrG>babilen: my case is a bit 'special', on the eeepc, limited to 2G of ram
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12:40<oldlaptop>SynrG: I have 2GB of RAM here, and I actually use plasma
12:40<SynrG>babilen: so dumping gnome-terminal was one of the easier decisions when i found for my use case, lighter alternatives worked as well
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12:40<SynrG>oldlaptop: i tried plasma, and even after tuning, found it unusable.
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12:40<oldlaptop>then don't use it :P
12:40<oldlaptop>krunner is the only fragment I really care about anyhow
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12:40<SynrG>i really wanted it to work, too :p
12:40<oldlaptop>the rest of it is running because it has to be installed for krunner to work
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12:41<SynrG>can no longer remember what the deal killer was for me. time blunts my memory
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12:42<oldlaptop>stuff like konqueror is fantastic from any desktop
12:42<oldlaptop>kate, yakuake, kdevelop, etc
12:43<oldlaptop>(I don't actually use konsole the application; that's just a wrapper around konsolepart)
12:43<panlin>and for gnome?
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12:44<oldlaptop>first step would be to purge all gnome packages ;)
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12:51<fr33domlover>SynrG, it doesn't support RTL :-)
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12:51<fr33domlover>only mlterm does, and a new tool called bicon
12:51<SynrG>fr33domlover: which i said above
12:52<SynrG>scroll back to about 4m after you asked
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13:46<vrishab>Hi .. I'm using x-chat for a week for irc discussions .. It doesn't seem to remember my settings ... I've reconnect every time I login to a set of servers / channels ... any workarounds .. suggestions ..
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13:48<centrx>vrishab, Try hexchat?
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13:48<hashem>vrishab, For servers: XChat > Server List > Select Server > Edit > Auto connect on Startup. For channels: Right click a channel and "Add to favorites"
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13:53<vrishab>hashem, exactly what I needed ... thanks !!
13:54<vrishab>centrx, ... will give it a shot . thanks !
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14:01<mjt>ok, so, how to enable hdmi audio with radeon card? Do I really still need to reboot with radeon.audio=1 ?
14:02<_tristan>hmmm, it seems I have a weird libglib on debian wheezy - I make a direct connection to a GDBusServer on *another host* with a tcp dbus address... and for some reason it attempts to do dbus-launch on the connecting host
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14:02<_tristan>worse still, is that dbus-launch (even though I don't need any dbus sessions), is somehow bound to X11 - which is ideally not even installed, but is certainly not running
14:03<mjt>there's no radeon module parameter named 'audio' so rebooting wiht radeon.audio=1 wont help. How to enable it?
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14:07<mjt>oh. there is. and it is disabled. Can't it be enabled without reboot?
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14:08*mjt *sighs*. "You have moved the mouse. Windows must be restarted to take effect." -- this was about windows, now even such things like plugging a HDMI monitor to linux machine requires to reboot... :(
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14:29<mjt>rebooted. Now pavucontrol displays HDMI output, but marks it as "unplugged", even if hdmi cable is plugged in and the TV set says it has HDMI audio source enabled. So I can't choose HDMI on linux side still. How to overcome this?
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16:51<dbristow>All of a sudden after upgrading my kernel today my mouse doesn't work.
16:51<dbristow>Is there a way to boot the previous kernel?
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16:52<Brigo>dbristow, yes, in avdanced options in grub menu
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16:56<dbristow>Don't see an advanced option in grub.
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16:59<Brigo>dbristow, well, may be it is not called exaclty advanced, but in my grub -from jessie- there is de default option (who launchs the last kernel) and other one who shows other menu from which you can lauch older kernels.
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17:09<dbristow>Brigo: All I see is the latest kernel and a recovery mode, both of which result in a mouse that doesn't respond, but the keyboard works fine.
17:09<dbristow>I am using debian 7.5
17:09<dbristow>amd64
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17:13<devil_>dbristow: do you have any other kernels installed?
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17:13<devil_>dbristow: check with apt or dpkg
17:14<dbristow>devil_: What is the name of the kernel package?
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17:15<dbristow>I am going to boot a 7.5 gnome live cd, see if the older kernel from that works.
17:15<devil_>dbristow: no idea, I do not run debian proper or debian kernels
17:15<dbristow>bbiab.
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17:38<devil_>emma?
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17:58<teage>what is the -t for? when installing from command.
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18:27<zobel>i just renewed the wiki.debian.org certificate. If anything broke, please contact the DSA Team at debian-admin@lists.debian.org or in #debian-admin
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19:15<dbristow>How can I install and boot to a previous kernel version? Currently I only have one kernel (and a reovery option) but booting to that kernel (fairly recent, like a day or two old) gives me a mouse that doesn't respond. Keyboard works fine.
19:16<dbristow>the recovery option gives the same result.
19:16<dbristow>This box was working fine until the new kernel.
19:17<dbristow>I am having to use the text consoles, as I can login with the keyboard but don't know the keyboard shortcuts for much of anything.
19:17<dbristow>It's not the hardware, as booting to a 7.5 gnome amd64 live CD gives me a mouse that works fine.
19:17<mtn>dbristow: you could install an older kernel, if you don't already have one installed
19:18<dbristow>mtn: How do I do that? I don't seem to have the earlier kernels installed, if I can trust the contents of /boot
19:18<mtn>dbristow: use apt-get or aptitude from the command line.
19:19<dbristow>I currently have linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 whose version says 3.2.60-1+deb7u1
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19:20<dbristow>What would the next newest kernel name be?
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19:20<mtn>dbristow: http://packages.debian.org
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19:27<dbristow>mtn: I only see the kernel that I already have that isn't working
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19:32<mtn>dbristow: I guess you could try a kernel from backports. https://wiki.debian.org/Backports
19:32<mtn>dbristow: I will say I suspect it is not the kernel at fault here.
19:33<mtn>dbristow: are you sure the mouse and/or port is still functional?
19:33<dbristow>The KVM connects through that one port for both the keyboard and mouse. If I were having trouble with the port the keyboard probably wouldn't work as well.
19:33<dbristow>And I tried a different mouse, same result.
19:34<dbristow>And the Live CD boots with the mouse working fine.
19:34<mtn>dbristow: ok, sounds like good troubleshooting that you did.
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19:35<dbristow>I have tried removing and re-plugging the mouse as well.
19:36<dbristow>It's a wheel mouse optical, very standard mouse.
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19:59<retrospectacus>try plugging the mouse directly into the computer?
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20:09<dbristow>Let me try that.
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20:11<dbristow>Nope, not even directly connected.
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21:03<AlexLikeRock>why the limit are to 654 ?
21:03<AlexLikeRock>its so small this number :-O
21:03<sney>so people can't join flood
21:03<sney>it adjusts depending on how many people are here
21:03<AlexLikeRock>ho :-O
21:03<AlexLikeRock>tanks
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21:08<IIsi50MHz>Anti-flood tactic, I presume.
21:08<IIsi50MHz>Wow, lag.
21:08<sney>maybe because of the sparc23
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21:09<sney>32, even. yikes.
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