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01:19<trollus>Hello, please tell me how can I find what sdb my usb stick is using and what command to format it
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01:23<dualbus>trollus: well, you already know it's sdb, and you can use fdisk or cfdisk
01:23<trollus>dualbus, so I write fdisk sdb ?
01:24<trollus>fdisk: unable to open sdb: No such file or directory
01:25<dualbus>trollus: well, you said 'what sdb', I thought you already knew what device your usb stick was in.
01:26<trollus>dualbus, no, I don't know
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01:30<trollus>dualbus, so can you tell me how do I make this?
01:31<dualbus>trollus: run dmesg and look in the most recent entries for a name that matches your USB device
01:33<trollus>I think it is sdb1
01:33<trollus>sda1*
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01:35<dualbus>trollus: are you sure it's sda?
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01:37<trollus>dualbus, no, but dunno, here's pastebin http://pastebin.com/ih99qgrn
01:41<dualbus>trollus: 620. [ 2.918275] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
01:41<dualbus>read after that line, it says sdb
01:41<dualbus>so that's /dev/sdb
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01:42<dualbus>sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb should show you the two partitions that the usb drive has
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01:49<trollus>dualbus, http://pastebin.com/TvHZ2pA1 warning :o
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01:59<trollus>fatal error: cannot open disk drive press any key to exit cfdisk :o
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04:24<qwk>Hi guys, Im trying to install postfix + dovecot but just keep getting this error: http://puu.sh/a7OVo/a9a0b97473.png
04:25<qwk>The tutorial says: Look for the line that starts with auth default, before that insert the lines below.
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04:29<qwk>http://puu.sh/a7Pyg/c270156706.png
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04:48<gsimmons>qwk: Other than the syntax error ("auth default" and "auth default2" are separate sections), you are following an outdated tutorial (for Dovecot 1.x). Which version of Debian do you have installed?
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05:02<qwk>gsimmons, latest debian 7
05:04<gsimmons>qwk: You will need to update your configuration to match what Dovecot 2.x is expecting.
05:04<gsimmons>dpkg: tell qwk -about dovecot wheezy
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05:06<qwk>gsimmons, I used this tutorial: http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-mail-server-setup-with-postfix-dovecot-sasl-squirrel-mail.html
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05:07<qwk>stuck at "Look for the line that starts with auth default, before that insert the lines below."
05:07<qwk>oh dam the article is from 14 feb 2008
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05:11<lKm>qwk: if you want a good tutorial for dovecot+postfix with sasl I used this one
05:11<lKm>http://www.samhobbs.co.uk/raspberry-pi-email-server
05:11<lKm>it is for the raspberry pi but works fine on my debian 7.4 and 7.5 servers
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05:32<qwk>ok lkm, I will give it a shoot
05:32<qwk>thanks
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05:36<hse>Hi! having sound problems, speaker is constantly moot. Using wheezy (amd64) LXDE, packages are updated and upgraded. Already tried removing alsa-utils and reinstalling, but that doesn't help. Alsamixer won't start, error message is "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory", and neither will amixer do. Any idea?
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05:37<valdyn>!alsa
05:37<dpkg>Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) is a Linux kernel component providing device drivers for sound cards. Ask me about <install alsa>. See also <alsa-checklist>, <default alsa>, <alsa firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA http://www.alsa-project.org/ #alsa on irc.freenode.net.
05:37<valdyn>hse: ^^
05:38<hse>valdyn: thx! new to this irc thing...
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05:39<hse>!install alsa
05:39<dpkg>"aptitude -r install alsa-utils". After package installation, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels. Some applications don't know how to talk directly to ALSA, see <devdsp>. Some ALSA drivers require firmware from userspace, ask me about <alsa firmware>. To set the default sound card, ask me about <default alsa>.
05:39<valdyn>hse: /msg the bot
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06:16<valdyn>hse: still no sound?
06:17<hse>nothing
06:17<hse>seems to be an installation problem, as alsamixer won't start
06:17<valdyn>hse: no
06:18<valdyn>hse: run lspci and lspci -n, paste on a paste site
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06:18<hse>lspci -> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
06:19<hse>lspci -n -> 00:00.0 0600: 8086:a010 (rev 02)
06:19<hse>00:02.0 0300: 8086:a011 (rev 02)
06:19<hse>00:02.1 0380: 8086:a012 (rev 02)
06:19<hse>00:1b.0 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 02)
06:19<hse>00:1c.0 0604: 8086:27d0 (rev 02)
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06:19<hse>00:1c.1 0604: 8086:27d2 (rev 02)
06:19<hse>00:1c.3 0604: 8086:27d6 (rev 02)
06:19<hse>00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:27c8 (rev 02)
06:19<valdyn>hse: stop this
06:19<hse>00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:27c9 (rev 02)
06:19<hse>00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:27ca (rev 02)
06:19<hse>00:1d.3 0c03: 8086:27cb (rev 02)
06:19<hse>00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:27cc (rev 02)
06:19<valdyn>hse: thats what paste sites are for
06:19<hse>00:1e.0 0604: 8086:2448 (rev e2)
06:19<hse>00:1f.0 0601: 8086:27bc (rev 02)
06:19<hse>00:1f.2 0106: 8086:27c1 (rev 02)
06:19<hse>01:00.0 0200: 1969:1062 (rev c0)
06:19<hse>02:00.0 0280: 14e4:4727 (rev 01)
06:19<hse>what are paste sites?
06:20<valdyn>!paste
06:20<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
06:20<hse>can you name one?
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06:20<valdyn>!which driver
06:20<dpkg>To work out what module you need to load for your PCI card, try pasting the output from "lspci -n" into http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ . Ask me about <which ethernet driver> and <which video driver>. See also <oot>, <nodriver>, <judd-hardware>.
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06:21<valdyn>hse: what is your kernel version? ( run "uname -r" to see )
06:22<hse>valdyn: 3.2.0-4-amd64
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06:23<utente>im using debina stable (7.5). Looking for a tool that allow to creare a animated gif using a serie of png screenshoot i took. i searched a wine in apt-cache but i fount nothing appropriate. some hint, please?
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06:24<utente>a wine = a while
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06:24<valdyn>hse: run "groups", see if "snd" is in the list
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06:25<valdyn>hse: hmm, oops, the groups is "audio"
06:25<valdyn>hse: see if "audio" is in the list
06:26<hse>audio is in the list: http://paste.debian.net/109293
06:28<valdyn>hse: paste "lspci -k" on a paste site
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06:28<cornerma3>utente: depends on your needs, but a simple tool would be 'convert': convert -delay 100 a.png -delay 50 b.png res.gif
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06:29<utente>cornerman, thanks, i will try
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06:30<hse>valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/109295
06:30<valdyn>hse: did you log out after adding yourself to the audio group?
06:31<hse>valdyn: yes
06:31<hse>valdyn: added myself to the group a couple of days ago
06:31<valdyn>hse: I see
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06:31<valdyn>hse: what is in your /proc/asound/cards ?
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06:32<utente>cornerman, there is a short to avoid to frite all name of name.png? they are all in format name000xx.png, with xx from 00 to 99
06:32<valdyn>utente: *.png
06:33<utente>ooohhh me stupid!
06:33<utente>thankse
06:33<cornerman>sure, but you have to set the delay per file
06:33<hitler>who waits to chat with me
06:33<hse>valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/109296
06:34<valdyn>hse: so everything is in order
06:34<valdyn>hse: what does running alsamixer as root give?
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06:35<hitler>i try to install debian but i cant
06:35<hse>valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/109297
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06:36<valdyn>hse: whats in your /dev/snd ?
06:37<hitler>nobody chat with me
06:37<hse>valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/109298
06:37<hitler>my real name is dragos
06:37<hitler>kill all
06:37<hitler>kill all
06:37<hitler>kill all
06:37<hitler>kill all
06:37<hitler>kill all
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06:38<hitler>gayyyyyyyyy
06:38<valdyn>hse: ok, your sound card is ok, your mixer is not, since that device node is missing for some reason
06:38<valdyn>hse: run lsmod, paste the output
06:39<valdyn>hse: uh, i misread, even the mixer is there, but paste anyway
06:39<hse>valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/109299
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06:41<mephisto>Hi, I'm trying to reinstall Wheezy 7.5 onto an existing encrypted volume group following this guide ((( http://consolematt.wordpress.com/2013/06/19/reinstalling-debian-on-existing-lukslvm-partition/ ))). After installation in grub, the VG is not automatically recognized, so I want to manually mount the VG in order to edit /etc/crypttab. I can luksOpen the VG, but vgchange gives error: "/bin/sh/: vgchange: not found". Any idea what I might be doing wrong?
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06:42<valdyn>hse: do you have an asoundrc or alsa.conf that you modified?
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06:43<hse>valdyn: not that I am aware of, but I'll search. pls wait
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06:43<valdyn>hse: nm, you would know if you did
06:45<hse>valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/109300
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06:46<valdyn>hse: your sound is setup just fine, the only thing left as error source is permissions and some weird bugs that i cant understand right now
06:47<valdyn>hse: run "strace -eopen alsamixer 2>&1 > logfile". Paste the logfile that is created
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06:48<hse>valdyn: no strace
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06:48<valdyn>hse: apt-get install strace
06:48<hse>valdyn: command not found
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06:48<hse>valdyn: installing
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06:50<hse>valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/109301
06:50<valdyn>hse: show your /etc/asound.conf
06:52<hse>valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/109302
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06:52<valdyn>hse: move that file away
06:52<valdyn>hse: you dont have a card 1, you only have a card 0 as far as i could see
06:53<hse>valdyn: moved
06:53<valdyn>hse: thats all, alsamixer should work now
06:54<valdyn>hse: in any case it has to produce a different strace log now
06:54<hse>valdyn: you are a hero!
06:54<hse>valdyn: thank you very much!
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06:55<hse>valdyn: and thx for showing me the dpkg bot and paste sites
06:57<hse>valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/109303 new strace
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07:02<hse>bye
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07:03<omar>Hi all!
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07:08<captainfreeky>How can i install application on another user while it is not logged on and it is not in sudoers
07:08<gnukox>su username
07:09<valdyn>mephisto: that vgchange program is not there
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07:10<captainfreeky>that su username will change me to other user where i do not want to log in
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07:10<mephisto>@valdyn Yeah.. do you know of any other way that I could access the /etc/crypttab file? I'm trying a live session atm..
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07:33<valdyn>mephisto: run any live cd, run vgchange -ay
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07:48<captainfreeky>how can i install application in another user where he is not in sudores ? su username will log me in that user right ?
07:49<gnukox>yes
07:49<gnukox>install only works with root
07:49<gnukox>or with root rights - sudo
07:50<gnukox>if you cant change to root or youre user is not in sudoers than you cant
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07:51<planetmaker>you might be able to install it user-locally
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07:55<gnukox>i think he wants to install with apt
07:56<captainfreeky>yep with apt and i want to start app in that username which is not in sudoers
07:57<abrotman>and you don't want to use su ?
07:58<captainfreeky>nope dont want to be root and nither wanna give sudoers to that user
07:58<captainfreeky>only can run that app
07:59<planetmaker>he can run it. Once installed. But that's two different permissions
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08:01<captainfreeky>so i can o deal this installing and to allow only him to start in new terminal
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08:03<captainfreeky>*how
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08:09<zathras>hi. what would be the most elegant way to disable (not uninstall) jetty8 on wheezy? (I found nothing in /etc/default/jetty8 and update-rc.d is not very elegant imho)
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08:09<babilen>update-rc.d is the correct way
08:09<babilen>dpkg: disable service
08:09<dpkg>From update-rc.d(8): «A common system administration error is to delete the links with the thought that this will disable the service…. However, if all links have been deleted then the next time the package is upgraded, the package's postinst … will reinstall links at their factory default locations.» Use «update-rc.d $service disable» instead.
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08:10<zathras>ty
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08:12<alexandruagapi>Hi. Who can helpme with APACHE 2? I need to set a kind of default page to show me when a VirtualHost cannot connect on a nonexistent port.
08:12<alexandruagapi> For example i have 3 hosts:
08:12<alexandruagapi> 1. " test.com:80 ";
08:12<alexandruagapi> 2. " test.com:81 ";
08:12<alexandruagapi> 3. " othertest.com:80 ";
08:12-!-alexandruagapi was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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08:15<alexandruagapi>Hi. Who can helpme with APACHE 2 in private?
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08:17<gnukox>whats youre problem
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08:18<alexandruagapi>I need to set a kind of default page to show me when a VirtualHost cannot connect on a nonexistent port.
08:18<alexandruagapi>For example i have 3 hosts: 1. " test.com:80 "; 2. " test.com:81 "; 3. " othertest.com:80 ";
08:18<alexandruagapi>When i access host from number 3 for example wich is just on port "80", and i put in browser "othertest.com:81" on port "81" wich is not set to this host, will displaying the first host wich is set on port "81".
08:18<alexandruagapi>I want to diplay a custom page or i want to disable this thing in some mode if is possible.
08:19<drylelite>did u check the apache config? =P
08:21<babilen>alexandruagapi: apache will simply show the first configured virtualhost by default as "fallback"
08:22<babilen>alexandruagapi: And you probably also want to read http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/name-based.html and ask for details in #httpd on irc.freenode.net
08:22<alexandruagapi>thx :)
08:24<zathras>that can be interesting. Whenever you mention the word debian you are in for a treat there as they are far from happy the way the debian packagers package apache
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08:25<zathras>so, handle with care :P
08:26<zathras>chances are you will get a reference to https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DebianDeb0rkification
08:29<babilen>I talked to one of the mods and would hope that #httpd is a bit more accepting of the fact that their software is installed via some package management system by a lot of people.
08:29<babilen>But yeah, it is an unfortunate issue that really doesn't make much sense as any person could configure their stock Apache in exactly the same way.
08:30<zathras>cool. That would be an improvement. Some people take software like a religious debate
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08:30<zathras>not very helpful imho
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09:20<soar>what's the name of the version after Jessie? is it available?
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09:24<Marillion>soar: nope
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09:54<debuser45>I'm having trouble bootstrapping debian on a luks-encrypted btrfs subvolume. The deboostrap succeeded and I have set up both crypttab and fstab correctly, but grub-probe doesn't recognize my root device
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09:55<debuser45>When I manually install grub, the linux init fails to mount the btrfs volume
09:55<debuser45>any hints?
09:56<drylelite>i just read something about it :D in the erm
09:56<debuser45>the grub error is: "error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)"
09:56<drylelite>begining stages of the book "debian7 : System administration Best practices
09:56<drylelite>but i jump that topic since its not what i was looking for :p
09:57<debuser45>oh
09:57<debuser45>I've tried everything I could come up with
09:57<drylelite>rm -rf / ?
09:57<drylelite>=P soz
09:57<debuser45>please
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09:58<drylelite>did u install grub2? cuz afaik debian uses grub2 now
09:58<drylelite>no
09:58<drylelite>nah nevermind sorry again :D
09:58<debuser45>drylelite: I used the grub-pc package, which is grub2
09:58<drylelite>go with something else then grub?
09:59<debuser45>drylelite: but even if I manually enter the linux/initrm commands at the grub prompt the boot still fails
10:00<debuser45>it unlocks the luks partition, but doesn't mount the btrfs subvolume for some reason
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10:01<drylelite>no idea :( hope u find some help, try searching diff methods to do exactly what u want?
10:02<debuser45>I found this tutorial: http://blog.kourim.net/installing-debian-on-btrfs-subvolume
10:03<debuser45>they did pretty much the same as I did
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10:11<valdyn>debuser45: is your initrd regenerated for this?
10:13<debuser45>valdyn: I regenerated it with mkinitramfs
10:13<debuser45>I even added the btrfs and dm-crypt modules
10:14<valdyn>those are added by default anyway
10:15<valdyn>debuser45: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-<version> or some update-initramfs. I cant say if youre doing this right with mkinitramfs
10:15<debuser45>valdyn: I tried update-initramfs -u too
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10:16<debuser45>anyway, in the ramfs shell I can see the /dev/mapper/cryptvolume, so it is unlocked (and recognized as a btrfs volume)
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10:17<valdyn>debuser45: and you can mount it?
10:18<debuser45>valdyn: it says the device is busy
10:18<debuser45>can't umount it either
10:18<debuser45>I can mount it from a live cd though
10:19<valdyn>debuser45: what is keeping it busy?
10:19<debuser45>I have no idea
10:19<valdyn>debuser45: use lsof
10:19<debuser45>I'll try it
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10:25<debuser45>wait, I found a way to boot: when I specify the subvolume as kernel option (rootflags=subvol=...) it works
10:25<debuser45>and update-grub works too, so I guess that was a chroot thing
10:25<debuser45>anyway, thanks for the help everyone!
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10:28<debuser45>this clearly is the best moment in my life ^^
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10:53<tinaj1234_>I'm using Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) and my kernel version is 3.2.0-4. At times my harddisk partitions don't mount, fn keys won't work, can't even shut down or restart the system from GUI and I've to use the command line. I tried dist upgrade but that didn't make any difference. Can anyone help me out?
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10:54<zathras>tinaj1234_, check the logs for issues
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10:55<zathras>in /var/log/system and /var/log/messages you can probably find pointers on what is wrong
10:55<zathras>sounds like you might have hardware issues
10:55<birch>Hey, I'm running debian stable 64bit w/xfce on a system76 laptop. An Hp Photosmart printer was working fine on this laptop until recently when it stopped receiving print jobs. The printer itself can print status pages and otherwise function. I swapped the cable to no effect. I used the Printer settings option to run a command when a printer connects to check if the laptop saw the printer, and it did. However, I still cannot print. The printe
10:55<birch>r settings page is sparse in xfce, can anyone tell me where I can find more printer settings options? Thanks.
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10:56<zathras>birch, are you using cups?
10:56<zathras>can cups print status pages
10:56<zathras>?
10:57-!-mode/#debian [+l 657] by debhelper
10:57<birch>zathras, not sure, how do i check? i assume that i am using cups.
10:57<captainfreeky>can i know how can i paste a log in http://paste.debian.net/ from terminal sorry a noob question
10:57<zathras>tinaj1234_, to get help more info is required
10:57<zathras>birch use: dpkg -l |grep cups
10:58<zathras>it is probably installed. (you just checked that). CUPS also has a webinterface. Use that to print a testpage
10:59<zathras>captainfreeky, usually it is copy/paste via a clipboard. However there is also: partebinit as a package
10:59<zathras>that one can paste from commandline to various pastebins
10:59<birch>zathras, a related question. the Terminal Emulator is just a black screen with no visible typing
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11:00<tinaj1234_>zathras: looking into logs
11:00<captainfreeky><zathras> How can I install it apt-get install as i cant find teh package
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11:01<zathras>captainfreeky, it is there: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/pastebinit
11:02<zathras>captainfreeky, maybe you just have main in your apt sources?
11:02<birch>zathras, fixed the color scheme. here is the output http://paste.debian.net/109346/
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11:04<zathras>birch, https://www.cups.org/documentation.php?VERSION=1.5&Q=
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11:05<captainfreeky><zathras> you told me this partebinit but anyway it was pastebin i got that
11:05<captainfreeky>thanks m8
11:07<zathras>birch, check /etc/cups/cupsd.conf also: the webinterface usually runs on port 631
11:07<zathras>np captainfreeky , sorry for the typo
11:07<tinaj1234_>zathras: What particularly should I be looking for in syslogs?
11:08<zathras>tinaj1234_, dmesg is usually an excerpt of hw issues
11:08<captainfreeky><zathras> no worries mistakes happen :) well one short one line answer so how can i paste them from command line like i wanna paste log to debpastebin
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11:09<zathras>tinaj1234_, for lines that say things like error or warning or....
11:09<tinaj1234_>zathras: ok..looking
11:10<zathras>basically anything that might give you hints on what might be wrong
11:11<captainfreeky>zathras got it thanks m8 using pastebinit <filename> and wait for link
11:11<zathras>captainfreeky, iirc you can specify which pastebin to use. Some do not work
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11:16<zathras>tinaj1234_: dmesg |less
11:16<birch>zathras, do you think this is relevant? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne
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11:18<tinaj1234_>zathras: I failed to find any kind of errors other that bluetooth patch failing to load ..I'll paste a part of the log in pastebin and sent it to you in a min
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11:18<zathras>birch, there are multiple ways to connect a printer. I would choose one that would interact best with most programs
11:18<gb>hi there, a have a noob question. I have an ubuntu 10.04 where I have nginx 0.7.6 installed. I need to install nginx 1.6. What's the right way to do it in a repeatable way? I'd like to build a debian package for nginx 1.6, and be able to install it via dpkg -i
11:18<Brigo>!tell gb about ubuntu
11:18<zathras>gb, the right way to do that is to ask at the ubuntu channel. This is Debian
11:18<captainfreeky><zathras> one small thing that i wanted to know once pasted having the debain name rather how can i paste as anonymous
11:19<zathras>captainfreeky, no idea. check the man page of the tool
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11:20<zathras>birch, cups is probably best for printing. However if you also need scanning you might need to go for custom stuff or install sane next to cups
11:20<birch>zathras, it's confusing because this printer worked fine for over a year then just stopped 3 weeks ago. I was out of town when it happened so I don't know what the error was.
11:20<captainfreeky>ok
11:21<zathras>birch, probably the config changed due to a package upgrade or something
11:22<birch>zathras, i found this as well http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/downloads.html seems better than the ubuntu link, assuming it's legit
11:22<zathras>birch, try one approach, not three
11:22<zathras>so, what is wrong with cups?
11:23<birch>what's wrong with cups is that i don't understand it lol
11:23<tinaj1234_>zathras: http://paste.debian.net/109351/
11:28<zathras>tinaj1234_, I noticed both vmware and virtualbox. Seems a bit odd, but not a real problem. Only potential worrying thing (not sure though): Package power limit notification
11:28<zathras>no reference to disk issues.
11:29<birch>zathras, http://paste.debian.net/109352/ there are some cups warnings about keyrings, does that matter?
11:29<zathras>nope
11:30<zathras>birch, can you connect to port 631?
11:30<birch>zathras, yea
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11:30<zathras>so, you should be able to send a testpage to the printer
11:31<zathras>on the top of the page you see a tab "Administration"
11:32<zathras>use that
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11:33<birch>zathras, it's trying to print but not succeeding...hm...
11:34<zathras>so, the logs might be your friend, or check the printqueue
11:35<birch>pending since Sun 22 Jun 2014 03:32:39 PM EDT "Unable to send data to printer."
11:35<birch>that's when it started
11:35<zathras>so kill that job
11:38<birch>"/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
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11:42<birch>zathras, i deleted the printer profile and set up a new one with the same driver and settings and now it works fine. weird. thanks for the help!
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12:05<zathras>np
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12:36<q8hex>hey guys
12:36<q8hex>i have problem
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12:37<q8hex>i want to update my iphone on my
12:37<q8hex>laptop
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12:38<ompaul>no you want to plug your iphone in and get signal from the network
12:38<drylelite>use aptitude
12:38<drylelite>or Synaptic
12:38<drylelite>=PPP
12:39<ompaul>adhoc networking if you want to be painful is the thing to research
12:39<ompaul>and iphone problems stay on iphones thankfully
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13:14<slaveo>hello
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13:15<slaveo>any one could help
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13:15<jmcnaught>!anyone
13:15<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
13:16<drylelite>slaveo everyone can try but what do you need help with my fellow debian lover
13:16<drylelite>fml im 2hyped i should get of chats
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13:17<slaveo>i would like to install mac os lion theme on my kali
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13:17<jmcnaught>slaveo: you should ask in a kali channel or forum. Kali is based on Debian, but it's not Debian and isn't supported here
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13:18<slaveo>so how could i join to them
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13:20<jmcnaught>slaveo: you could check the kali website to see if an IRC channel is listed there
13:20<jmcnaught>!kali
13:20<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
13:20<drylelite>use kali as live cd not as a working system
13:20<drylelite>it has ben made to be used as a live cd :P
13:21<drylelite>use debian for ur OS instead : ) or archlinux & debian on ur /srv
13:21<slaveo>ok thanks dears
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13:23<babilen>*shudder*
13:24<slaveo>drylelite i would ask u about which OS is good for networking
13:25<babilen>slaveo: What do you mean by "networking" ?
13:25<drylelite>from what i have read, debian is used by most isp companies and is a strong web server aswell
13:26<drylelite>well atleast the stable version :) hell even the test version is mostly more stable then any other stable distro =P
13:26<drylelite>debian/*bsd i dont like centos
13:26<babilen>"stable" simply means "not changing" in the context of Debian (cf. /msg dpkg stable)
13:26<ompaul>but not suggested for production
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13:27<drylelite>yes because it takes time before debi dev. crew tests the shit out of the new version of the software
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13:27<drylelite>that is gr8 but its bad aswell since u getting late program updates, thats why debian is stable :p
13:27<babilen>Before debi dev?
13:27<drylelite>and i like it =)
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13:28<drylelite>debian devel. crew
13:28<drylelite>:D
13:28<ompaul>you mean people
13:28<drylelite>yes ppl bringing you the goodies aka gods
13:28<drylelite>:D
13:28*ompaul raises an eyebrow
13:28<drylelite>hihih
13:29<slaveo>babilen i meant ...in browsing
13:29<babilen>drylelite: Pleasy try to go a bit easier on the enter key and it would also be quite appreciated if you could do me the favour of writing actual sentences.
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13:29<ompaul>slaveo: how does "networking" mean "in browsing" debian stable will do that job for excellently
13:29<ompaul>but it does both
13:29<drylelite>mkay my apology babilen
13:30<babilen>slaveo: You can use any distribution for browsing the internet. Most of them support all common browsers. Debian is a reasonably choice and you can learn how to install it in the <install guide> and by reading the factoids linked from <install debian> -- /msg dpkg install debian
13:31<slaveo>thanks guys
13:31<babilen>slaveo: If you like to use Iceweasel (aka Firefox) you would probably want to install a newer version from http://mozilla.debian.net
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13:31<slaveo>babilen im using it right now
13:32<babilen>slaveo: I thought you are using Kali Linux and not Debian.
13:32<babilen>(or were you referring to Iceweasel/Firefox?)
13:32<Mannequin>hi. Does anyone use SoulseekQT on Debian? Since a few days ago, when I open it, the program starts, but it looks "glitchy"
13:32<Mannequin>like this: http://i.imgur.com/YHjr5Rn.jpg
13:32<Mannequin>(I blurred the image)
13:33<slaveo>babilen yeah im using kali linux
13:33<Mannequin>what you see in the inside of the app, are "chunks" of other programs I've also opened.
13:34<babilen>Mannequin: What is SoulseekQT? It does not appear to be packaged for Debian.
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13:34<Mannequin>babilen, you are right. It's a (¿closed source?) client for Soulseek (a file-sharing network)
13:35<babilen>Mannequin: Is that the only program that exhibits this behaviour?
13:35<Mannequin>babilen, so far, it is. I don't have too many Qt programs on my system.
13:36<Mannequin>I will try running the few others I currently have.
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13:36<babilen>Please do, it would be interesting to know if this is a problem that affects QT in general or is specific to that particular (unsupported) program.
13:36<Mannequin>oh, other Qt program (Synergy, available on Debian repo) is showing a similar issue.
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13:37<babilen>Okay, which video driver to you use and which Debian do you track?
13:37<babilen>*Debian release
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13:40<Mannequin>babilen, I'm on Debian Testing (32bit). with radeon driver.
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13:42<babilen>Mannequin: Ah, okay, you want #debian-next then. And you do have firmware installed? Could you run "apt update" and then "apt list --upgradable" and paste the output to http://paste.debian.net along with that of "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l '*qt*'" ?
13:43<Mannequin>babilen, ok!
13:44<babilen>Mannequin: Also ask in #debian-next -- I'll be back a bit later (sorry, something came up)
13:44<Mannequin>babilen, no worries, thanks!
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15:04<marth>hello there, Debian users!
15:04<sney>hi
15:05<marth>there is only you, online?
15:06<babilen>marth: Can we help you with something?
15:06-!-mode/#debian [+o babilen] by ChanServ
15:06-!-kissss was kicked from #debian by babilen [you should know better]
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15:07<marth>well no, thank you, just saying hello
15:07<drylelite>banhammer :o
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15:08<babilen>drylelite: Feel free to not comment on actions taken by operators.
15:08<babilen>marth: Sure, welcome!
15:08<marth>:D
15:10<drylelite>okay im sorry once more, may i paste a music stream once? XD
15:10<ncl>no
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15:12<drylelite>erm, i know this is debian, but im having problems with my raspberry pi, archlinux arm, i cant get php to work :| when i put the Include & LoadModule into the .conf it just doesnt reload/restart(apache)
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15:14<babilen>drylelite: Please ask in ##linux, #archlinux or #raspbian on irc.freenode.net
15:14<babilen>Oh, and #httpd naturally (for Apache help)
15:15<drylelite>chers
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15:15<babilen>All the best! (and make sure to restart the server)
15:15<drylelite>httpd is a channel on this network or also freenode? :D
15:15<drylelite>ja cheers, im thinking about switching the distro to raspbian or smthn
15:17<babilen>raspbian is also not supported here (but in #raspbian) fwiw :D
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15:28<robla>hallo
15:28<sney>hi
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15:39<vrishab>Hi ... I'm trying to understand the information in http://release.debian.org/transitions/ ... Couldn't get much out of it .. Is there some place which describes the page details ?
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15:43<babilen>vrishab: What is unclear about it?
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15:44<devil_>a transition is a a abi/api change that needs a lot of packages to be rebuilt in a coordinated way
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15:45<valdyn>vrishab: what would you want to get out of it?
15:46<valdyn>vrishab: transitions can be release critical in which case they have to be completed for a release, they usually not very interesting
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15:47<devil_>unless you run unstable
15:48<devil_>then they might create havock in your upgrades
15:48<oldlaptop>it is generally understood that when sid breaks, you can keep both pieces
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15:58<devil_>that does not mean, transitionsare not interesting for these users. I follow transitions closely
16:02<oldlaptop>helps a lot when you try to put the pieces back together ;)
16:04<devil_>I tend to not let that happen in the first place
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16:19<rryoumaa>how do i find out why aptitude is upgrading base-files on wheezy?
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16:19<babilen>.oO( because there is an update?! )
16:19<babilen>rryoumaa: "apt-cache policy base-files"
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16:20<devil_>babilen: that's a wild guess ;)
16:20<rryoumaa>babilen: that just shows *** 7.1wheezy6 0
16:20<drylelite>can i idle here? =P
16:20<babilen>drylelite: Yes, but please idle (or seek support)
16:20<rryoumaa>i figured out aptitude why though, which might be the answer
16:20<devil_>drylelite: whe don't know if you can...
16:20<babilen>rryoumaa: Could you maybe be so kind to share the output of the commands you are referring to?
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16:21<rryoumaa>babilen: never mind. my ^C was too late for base files. also, i figured out aptitude why.
16:22<babilen>You killed an upgrade run?
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16:23<rryoumaa>yes, and now you are going to tell me that's bad, i presume
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16:24<babilen>It is indeed (and you could still paste the output of that)
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16:26<rryoumaa>hmm, what happens if the computer crashes? you can't always ensure an upgrade completes. http://sprunge.us/PBfG
16:27<valdyn>rryoumaa: interrupting updates may be bad but it does hardly ever break anything
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16:28<rryoumaa>good to know
16:28<rryoumaa>i am still trying to find out why my wheezy started making inodes and ctimes and mtimes changed en masse
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16:30<rryoumaa>(but that's probably irrelevant to the current discussion)
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16:31<babilen>So, 7.1wheezy5 was replaced by 7.1wheezy6 ... details should be found in /usr/share/doc/base-files/changelog.Debian.gz
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16:34<zathras>rryoumaa, I have that on a server, although that is still running squeeze
16:34<zathras>the culprit there is bind
16:34<zathras>zillions of logfiles
16:35<rryoumaa>babilen: thanks
16:35<rryoumaa>zathras: hmm, this is all types of files in / and i am not running bind
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16:35<babilen>rryoumaa: And why did you interrupt that? That looks perfectly fine?!
16:35<rryoumaa>babilen: it is fine now that i know it is fine
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16:36<babilen>You can assume that it is *always* fine on wheezy
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16:41<rryoumaa>indeed, indeed, unless perhaps in the case you've been hit by an unresolved bug or security issue involving massive numbers of ctime, mtime, and inode changes, and other strange things
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16:54<rryoumaa>my integrity checkers keep saying basic files (like /bin/su) are new
16:57<valdyn>rryoumaa: why dont you reinstall already
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16:58<rryoumaa>i will need to
16:58<babilen>wtf?
16:58<valdyn>rryoumaa: do you know how you got compromised?
16:58<babilen>valdyn: How do you know that rryoumaa was compromised?
16:59<valdyn>babilen: i dont
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16:59<rryoumaa>i don't know that i got compromised. i just now discovered that a berkeley db got corrupted. but i have no clue how to dump the output to ascii. db5.1_printlog is inscrutable.
17:00<valdyn>rryoumaa: even if you may be compromised you can see what debsums gives for the login package
17:00<rryoumaa>sums are fine for all files
17:01<valdyn>rryoumaa: so are your integrity checkers broken?
17:01<rryoumaa>maybe, still trying to figure that out
17:01<rryoumaa>but the changes to metadata are real
17:02<rryoumaa>including inodes, which is pretty strange
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17:07<babilen>rryoumaa: What is your integrity checker?
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17:13<Osmann>EUZUBILLAHIMINEÞÞEYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
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17:20<rryoumaa>babilen: several atm as i am testing a bunch of them. here is one strange samhain output: http://sprunge.us/jEgX
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17:21<rryoumaa>and here is another: CRIT : [2014-07-07T19:04:43-0700] msg=<POLICY [ReadOnly] ---I----T->, path=</bin/login>, inode_old=<1179676>, inode_new=<1835137>, dev_old=<8,3>, dev_new=<8,3>, ctime_old=<[2013-08-20T21:52:21]>, ctime_new=<[2013-09-22T23:41:46]>,
17:21<babilen>Oh god, samhain
17:21<babilen>I mean I like the festival :)
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17:23<abrotman>possibly drive corruption ?
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17:47<qwk>Hello debian fellows!
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17:48<qwk>Anyone nice soul in here who could help me install postfix, dovecot and squirrelmail?
17:49<qwk>I have tried alot of tutorials but its just mess up in the end.
17:50<igmp>qwk: do you want SSL with postfix ?
17:50<mdik>qwk: why don't you try in the respective channels?
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17:50<valdyn>these are debian packages...
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17:51<valdyn>qwk: what is your problem *configuring* those packages? Installing itself cant be to hard.
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17:57<qwk>I have been trying this tutorial with out success https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-postfix-e-mail-server-with-dovecot
17:57<qwk>sorry for late respone
17:57<qwk>response*
17:58<qwk>igmp, ofc I want SSL ^^
17:58<qwk>I generated 8192 rsa keys
17:58<devil_>qwk: what exactlydid not work?
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18:00<qwk>I dont know how to open the conf files: http://puu.sh/a8AEc/cfcacc239b.png
18:00<qwk>to this one
18:00<qwk>and enter the right things
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18:03<qwk>Im installing it on a Debian 6 server
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18:03<qwk>and later want to setup it with squirrelmail
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18:04<devil_>qwk: well, a good idea would be to pull the server up to current first
18:04<devil_>noone will debug debian 6 issues
18:04<igmp>qwk: wait you don't know “how” to open conf file?
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18:06<valdyn>!grounding
18:06<dpkg>Before asking in here or on the <debian-user> mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. The Debian Administrator's Handbook is also good. Ask me about <ig>, <overview>, <reference>, <refcard>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>, <debian-handbook> (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference).
18:06<valdyn>qwk: ^^
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18:07<qwk>igmp, I know how to open but they doesnt show which conf file to open and edit
18:07<gsimmons>qwk: You previously said you were using a Debian 7 system.
18:08<qwk>My server is Debian 6 and my Desktop is Debian 7
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18:09<qwk>But im trying to install this on my server
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18:10<igmp>qwk: you should take a look at /etc/postfix/main.cf and master.cf then
18:12<qwk>alright let me do everything from the beginning
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18:19<mdik>qwk: yes. config files are in /etc/postfix and /etc/dovecot
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18:20<mdik>configure postfix first and make sure you can send mails locally. if that works, you can configure dovecot so they will actually get stored after "arrival"
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18:22<qwk>thanks igmp. ok mdik i will give it a shot
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18:24<qwk>dig MX jrat.su +short @ns1.cloudns.net
18:24<qwk>seems to be alright?
18:25<qwk>host jrat.su ns1.cloudns.net
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18:36<qwk>alright im now in main.cf and it looks like this: http://puu.sh/a8DE8/02649571dc.png should I use jrat as hostname or jrat.su ?
18:36<qwk>anyone?
18:37<qwk>the guide says: myhostname = mail.domain.com
18:37<qwk>myorigin = /etc/mailname
18:37<qwk>mydestination = mail.domain.com, domain.com, localhost, localhost.localdomain
18:37<qwk>relayhost =
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18:38<qwk>sorry for flooding
18:38<babilen>qwk: You want jrat.su as "myhostname"
18:38<qwk>ok
18:39<qwk>and myorigin = /etc/mailname should I change it?
18:39<babilen>(and you probably also want to set smtp_helo_name = jrat.su)
18:40<babilen>qwk: /etc/mailname should contain the correct mailname and you shouldn't change that in main.cf
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18:40<qwk>alright and where do I set smpt_helo_name?
18:40<babilen>In you main.cf
18:40<babilen>*your
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18:42<qwk>babilen, like this?
18:43<qwk>and what does the smtp_helo_name do?
18:43<qwk>sorry forgot link http://puu.sh/a8Eex/90d1c9bc82.png
18:43<valdyn>qwk: why are you trying to set a helo name when you dont know what it does?
18:44<qwk><babilen> (and you probably also want to set smtp_helo_name = jrat.su)
18:44<babilen>I just suggested it (for completeness)
18:44<qwk>I migrated from winblows to Linux Mint because its the future
18:44<qwk>and I like the linux community and idea
18:45<babilen>So you are not using Debian, but mint?
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18:45<qwk>I do use debian
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18:45<qwk>I moved on to debian
18:45<babilen>"I migrated ... to Linux Mint" ?
18:45<mdik>qwk: you can find explanations to ALL the configuration variables in the postfix documentation. just run "man 5 postconf" in the terminal
18:45<babilen>Ah, okay
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18:46<qwk>Maybe in future I will use Arch but I like it nice and simple
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18:46<mdik>then type "/" followed by the text you are searching for
18:46<mdik>"n" searches further, "N" searches backwards
18:46<SamB>hmm, I wish I could get lsof to tell me more about what sockets/pipe FDs are talking to :-(
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18:50<qwk>mdik no results of smpt in manpage
18:50<valdyn>qwk: smtp
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18:50<qwk>oh my bad
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18:53<qwk>mdik, http://paste.debian.net/109396/ doesnt say much to me
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18:55<valdyn>qwk: "telnet smtp.googlemail.com 25", then talk to it "helo mail.me.com" or whatever
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18:56<howard>anybody running tor bridges
18:56<qwk>telnet: could not resolve smtp.googleemail.com/25: Name or service not known
18:56<qwk>spelled wrong
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18:57<qwk>telnet smtp.googlemail.com 25
18:57<qwk>Trying 74.125.136.16..
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18:58<qwk>anyone, I hardned my debian kernel with grsecurity
18:58<babilen>My condolences ...
18:58*babilen sees himself out
18:58<qwk>and now things like iceweasel and chrome wont start, anyone got any clue?
18:59<valdyn>qwk: grsecurity like mail servers are primary for people who know what they are doing
18:59<qwk>I think I set to hard rules
18:59<valdyn>qwk: you dont benefit from either and you hurt others if you dont
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19:00<valdyn>qwk: your mail server probably cant work either then
19:01<qwk>but I wont use grsecurity on mailserver
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19:01<qwk>just my desktop
19:01<valdyn>qwk: I see
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19:03<qwk>3.14.12grsec1.0-grsec
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19:03<qwk>why does it take years for ubuntu and debian to update their kernel?
19:03<mdik>qwk: still, mail servers are quite delicate things. i would recommend becoming aquainted with running a server in other services and after collecting some experience, trying again
19:04<valdyn>qwk: because its made for real world usage, not for toying
19:04<mdik>qwk: it takes weeks if not month of full-time studying to set up a mail server
19:05<valdyn>qwk: you can still get recent kernels from backports
19:05<qwk>ah cool
19:05<qwk>but like with arch it takes like 10 min or less to update to latest kernel
19:06<qwk>and why would it be "toying" to have the latest kernel?
19:06<qwk>sorry for dumb questions
19:06<valdyn>qwk: because that one by definition cannot be well tested
19:06<qwk>ah, I see
19:07<qwk>however debian would come with grsec default imo
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19:08<qwk>like appoarmor
19:08<valdyn>qwk: are you qualified to argue that?
19:08<qwk>I guess not :p
19:08<sney>you're welcome to submit a wishlist bug requesting it. but debian is meant to be a universal OS, and grsec/selinux/etc are not justified for the _universal_ use case
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19:10<valdyn>i think debian even has selinux pretty much by default, or by installing a single package, just not with restrictive rules
19:10<sney>it's not by default at all, it's just within reach, yeah
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19:14<qwk>where do I find the alias .conf http://puu.sh/a8GHS/1e33fef63c.png ?
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19:20<qwk>https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-postfix-e-mail-server-with-dovecot
19:20<qwk>anyone got a clue which .conf they are talking about?
19:21<abrotman>qwk: you really don't have an admin at your company ?
19:22<qwk>lol im just a person
19:22*sney is the only admin at his company and has had to puzzle through MTA docs too
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19:22<qwk>lel stop making fun of me
19:22<sney>but usually it's in /etc/packagename or /etc/default/packagename or something like that
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19:22<sney>patterns
19:23<abrotman>I'm not making fun, I'm seriously asking ..
19:23<sney>!fhs
19:23<dpkg>Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard, or "man hier".
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19:23<qwk>abrotman, I dont have any admin at my company, because I dont work atm.
19:24<qwk>I run www.jrat.su as a hobby
19:24<valdyn>qwk: most of this stuff is already at sane defaults in debian
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19:24<valdyn>qwk: you probably dont need to change or set alias_maps
19:25<qwk>valdyn, ok but Im just curious where to find it
19:25<valdyn>qwk: use grep
19:26<qwk>grep alias?
19:26<qwk>I did locate alias
19:27<abrotman>did you updatedb first?
19:27<qwk>I forgot that but did it now and still no luck :/
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19:32<qwk>wtf happend I cant even access etc/aliases
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19:36<wallzero>Hey does anyone have any experience with Xen? I am trying to launch a Debian pvm and I can't get an SDL display to open.
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19:50<qwk>What do you think about debian will implent systemd
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19:51<qwk>http://boycottsystemd.org
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19:52<sney>qwk: that discussion is well and truly over. systemd will be the default for new installs of debian 8+. if you have a sysv system now and upgrade it, you won't be forced to switch
19:52<valdyn>qwk: in the last 15 years any change was faced with the same ferocity as this systemd switch
19:52<valdyn>qwk: (ive been using debian for those years)
19:53<qwk>ah coool
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19:54<qwk>I tried to install something from apt-get and got this error, is something broken? (im root)
19:54<qwk>http://puu.sh/a8JMq/7100c7b961.png
19:54<oldlaptop>qwk: note that !linux architectures can't use systemd, I believe the intention is to use openrc there
19:54<oldlaptop>(openrc works well on linux architectures too)
19:55<qwk>oki
19:55<qwk>I love debian because is stable and secure and alot of tuts
19:56<qwk>+ u can run it as a server + desktop
19:56<valdyn>why the hell should that saslauthd directory have to exist..
19:56<qwk>do I have to reinstall reconfigure it or something?
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19:57<valdyn>qwk: mkdir /var/run/saslauthd, then apt-get -f install
19:57<abrotman>valdyn: probably because he's blindly following a webpage that asked him to create that?
19:57<qwk>I installed alot of shit and then removed it with apt-get --purge remove
19:57<valdyn>abrotman: no...
19:57<valdyn>abrotman: that package is doing something stupid as far as i can see
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19:58<qwk>it worked before
19:58<qwk>untill i removed it
19:58<qwk>any suggestions?
19:58<valdyn>qwk: run "ls -l /var/run/saslauthd"
19:59<qwk>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 Jul 12 07:34 /var/run/saslauthd -> /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd
20:00<valdyn>qwk: ok, i guess you removed postfix ?
20:00<qwk>i removed it before but installed it again
20:00<valdyn>qwk: and the target of that symlink does not exist ? /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd
20:00<qwk>to give it a new try
20:01<qwk>I cant cd into it
20:02<valdyn>qwk: you did stupid things obviously
20:02<valdyn>qwk: remove /var/run/saslauthd and run apt-get -f install
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20:03<valdyn>and of course abrotman was right
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20:14<blumoon|2>anyone active can help me with preseed ?
20:14<sney>!anyone
20:14<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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20:17<blumoon|2>my preseed cfg is using the hostname i selected and i cannot login to the account when i specified a hash
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21:25<baryluk>ok. who broke network-manager? I just upgraded to 0.9.8.10-4 -> 0.9.10.0-1, and it is automatically switching on (UP) eth0, messing with routing on wlan0. On 3 different machines.
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21:27<jmcnaught>baryluk: are you on testing? Maybe you should ask in #debian-next instead
21:28<baryluk>jmcnaught: thanks.
21:28<baryluk>ok
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22:20<ed>hii]
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22:24<qwk>Hi guys, I dc'd
22:27<qwk>valdyn, there? :>
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22:31<hasan1994_>what does this means?
22:31<hasan1994_> Install the appropriate linux-headers and fglrx-driver packages:
22:31<hasan1994_>fglrx-driver packages?
22:31<hasan1994_>which packages exactly?
22:32<qwk>https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-postfix-e-mail-server-with-dovecot
22:32<qwk>"Then go into /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf and clear out the file again. (that's important this time - the default config includes a bunch of subordinate config files in /etc/dovecot/conf.d that we don't want)."
22:33<qwk>does this mean I have to clean out both dovecot.conf and conf.d ?
22:33<hasan1994_>echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "fglrx"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf should this be runned with sudo?
22:34<hasan1994_>and do i need change "my gpu" to my actual gpu?
22:35<hasan1994_>acces denied echo ....
22:35<hasan1994_>should i first run su and then that command above?
22:36<hasan1994_>Wow this site need to be updated :)
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22:38<qwk>this silence...
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22:45<hasan1994>I need confirmation , i have installed fglrx-drivers my plan is also to install
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22:46<hasan1994>firmware-linux-nonfree
22:46<hasan1994>will this work?
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22:48<qwk>update
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23:00<hasan1994>everthing works great here
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23:00<hasan1994>except the selected resolution cannot be accepted
23:01<hasan1994> The selected display configuration could not be applied
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23:03<blumoon|2>how would i go about troubleshooting why I cannot log on to debian after installing with preseed and using a crypted user password
23:04<qwk>blumoon|2, did u use any rare keys like ö etc?
23:04<qwk>äöå
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23:05<blumoon|2>qwk: here is in a example of what i have in the config file "d-i passwd/user-password-crypted password f18512fb79abc396119c2896dc603c4e"
23:05-!-hasan1994 [~oftc-webi@d54C1E7EF.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
23:05<blumoon|2>qwk: without the quotes
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23:06<caravel>blumoon|2: what qwk implies is you might have a keyboard layout issue
23:07<caravel>i.e. if you're supposed to enter "rare keys" (let's say "non-US ascii keys" as a picture) at *boot* time, but your keyboard layout is unset (hence US)
23:07<blumoon|2>http://pastebin.com/x2cZmH3n is this wrong because it works if use plain text password
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23:09<qwk>d-i localechooser/supported-locales multiselect en_US.UTF-8, nl_NL.UTF-8
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23:09<qwk>#d-i debian-installer/country string NL
23:09<qwk>do u have any special letters in nl?
23:09<qwk>i might have in ur pw?
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23:10<qwk>or w/e
23:10<blumoon|2>i use us/american english
23:10<blumoon|2>i left those commented because i thought it was optional
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23:12<caravel>would these really affect the keyboard layout? I have no experience with preseeding (soon!) but I would have expected keyboard being distinct from locales
23:12<qwk>a friend of mine used some special letters from his country while he encrypted his box with LVM and couldnt login because of that
23:13<caravel>blumoon|2: I'd double check the references if I were in your case
23:13*caravel will soon be in that exact case :D
23:13<qwk>did u used a pw with a-z or any special letters?
23:14<caravel>(searching for *keyboard* config, not locale)
23:14<qwk>caravel, qwk> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-postfix-e-mail-server-with-dovecot
23:14<qwk><qwk> "Then go into /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf and clear out the file again. (that's important this time - the default config includes a bunch of subordinate config files in /etc/dovecot/conf.d that we don't want)."
23:14<qwk><qwk> does this mean I have to clean out both dovecot.conf and conf.d ?
23:14<qwk>any clue?
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23:15<caravel>qwk: why are you asking me? :)
23:15<caravel>but I would say "no"
23:16<caravel>I have no experience with it either :) but as I understand what you just quoted, that default conf file points to others ("include" like)
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23:17<caravel>and the tutorial tell you not to keep those inclusions
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23:18<caravel>qwk: I guess the only way to be sure is for you to check davecot's docs, to see if those under conf.d are indeed, only included if called from the former .conf
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23:18<qwk>caravel, if we get it right i should clear them ?
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23:19<caravel>if I am guessing right, you should only clear the default .conf file
23:19<caravel>but not thoses under conf.d directory
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23:20<qwk>ah okay
23:20<qwk>YOLO, I will give it a shot
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23:21<hasan1994>Problem is solved
23:21<hasan1994>except there are other problems
23:21<hasan1994>In display settings
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23:22<hasan1994>I have laptop + laptop
23:22<hasan1994>weird
23:22<hasan1994>it has to be laptop + monitor
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23:24<qwk>hasan1994, which grapich card do u have?
23:24<hasan1994>ati hd amd 5650
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23:24<hasan1994>mobility
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23:26<hasan1994>a restart brb
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23:30<blumoon|2>caravel: i tried different hashes no change and I am not usin special characs only numbers and letters
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23:30<caravel>blumoon|2: from one keyboard layout to another, even "basic" letter are moving targets :)
23:31<caravel>what's your (physical) keyboard layout?
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23:31<hasan1994>problem solved but
23:31<hasan1994>the name is different
23:31<blumoon|2>caravel: standard english us keyboard
23:32<caravel>^_^
23:32<hasan1994>http://imgur.com/zNwegjO
23:32<hasan1994>on the left
23:33<hasan1994>it thinks i have 2 laptops
23:33<caravel>blumoon|2: [...] then we've been -- obvisouly, out of topic here
23:33<caravel>if you have US physical layout, and leave all defaults, that's not your issue
23:34<hasan1994>I have a display bug any admin experienced?
23:34<blumoon|2>caravel: its my first time with preseed and googling doesnt bring up anything ={
23:35<caravel>blumoon|2: I know :) I have started to look around last month
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23:36<caravel>hasan1994: just be very patient, those who know/can help you, will do
23:37<caravel>what some would call "flooding", will not increase your visibility here :)
23:37<hasan1994>yeh but admin said i should be run debian wheezy
23:37<hasan1994>and there are still problems :)
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23:38<caravel>hasan1994: problems != unperfections :)
23:39<qwk>caravel, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-postfix-e-mail-server-with-dovecot
23:39<qwk>ctrl +f Now enter the following config:
23:39<jmcnaught>hasan1994: do to two screens look okay now? is it that big a deal if they're both called laptop?
23:39<hasan1994>they are okay
23:39<qwk>should I enter it in the conf.d or what? :p
23:39<hasan1994>i just want to report bug
23:40<hasan1994>jmcnaught i don't want anyone to have same issue as me
23:41<hasan1994>No actually i don't want report bug :D what i want is how to display it correctly :)
23:41<caravel>qwk: may I quote the stuff here :) « Then go into /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf and clear out the file again [...] Now enter the following config: [..] »
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23:41<caravel>what is it you don't understand in the above ? :D
23:41<hasan1994>jmcnaught I mean i want to solve it and bug report
23:42<qwk>"/etc/dovecot/conf.d" doesnt even exist LOL!
23:42<caravel>so?
23:42<qwk>caravel, im a lil bit drunk, he :p
23:42<caravel>okay :)
23:42<qwk>so please be patient ;)
23:43<jmcnaught>hasan1994: do you have anything else in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or the xorg.conf.d directory?
23:44<caravel>qwk: I am patient, always :)
23:44<caravel>however I'll go afk anyway, sorry :p
23:44<hasan1994>jmcnaugh /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d?
23:44<qwk>okok, lemme know when ur back, i might need ur help ;<
23:44<hasan1994>jmcnaught
23:44<qwk>;>*
23:44<caravel>qwk: just ask the chan, always, but try getting a little sober first maybe :)
23:45*caravel luck to all, afk
23:45<hasan1994>i have in that folder 20-fglrx.conf
23:46<qwk>yea but is saturday ! ;>
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23:46<jmcnaught>hasan1994: okay, and i assume that contains what you echo'ed to it by following the AtiProprietary instructions on the wiki. I'm just wondering because it's possible to name displays in xorg.conf
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23:47<hasan1994>Oh sorry i was wrong
23:47<hasan1994>I misunderstood you
23:47<hasan1994>i found the file xorg.conf
23:47<hasan1994>Ok i will do immediately change name :)
23:47<jmcnaught>qwk: /etc/dovecot/conf.d/ exists by default in Wheezy, so you probably deleted it. The default /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf file has line "!include conf.d/*.conf" that includes the file in that directory.
23:48<jmcnaught>hasan1994: i didn't tell you to change the name. chances are you don't even need that file. could you put it on paste.debian.net though before changing/deleting it?
23:48<hasan1994>http://pastebin.com/5SB5epPA
23:49<hasan1994>yes not file name change but in the text
23:49<hasan1994>i made it expiration
23:49<hasan1994>should i remake?
23:50<jmcnaught>hasan1994: how did you make that /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
23:50<hasan1994>i followed instructions from official site
23:50<hasan1994>I did exactly the site told me to do
23:51<jmcnaught>hasan1994: which official site? did you install the Debian fglrx package, or did you download drivers from the AMD website and run their installer?
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23:51<hasan1994>debian.org
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23:51<hasan1994>and no i didn't download from amd website
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23:52<jmcnaught>hasan1994: okay good. did you run "aticonfig" ?
23:52<hasan1994>yes
23:52<hasan1994>twice ithink
23:52<qwk>jmccrohan, there is no way that I can have deleted it
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23:52<qwk>i have checked my bash history
23:52<jmcnaught>hasan1994: where on https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary does it say to run "aticonfig" ?
23:53<qwk>jmccrohan, if you go to https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-postfix-e-mail-server-with-dovecot
23:53<hasan1994>jmcnaught i think that was on askubuntu
23:53<qwk>ctrl + f Now enter the following config:
23:53<hasan1994>i had found similar in debian forums
23:53<qwk>should I enter all the text in the box in the dovecot.conf?
23:53<jmcnaught>qwk: hey tipsy i'm over here, you're addressing the wrong person
23:53<hasan1994>but that was the only command i did outside the wiki official
23:54<hasan1994>jmcnaught if this bug is really important i can give u full system info
23:54<hasan1994>just let me know :)
23:55<hasan1994>because i can trust you you are admin :)
23:55<jmcnaught>hasan1994: well that's probably what generated the xorg.conf file, which the wiki does not say to do. Before reporting a bug, I would consider renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or putting it in another directory) and rebooting to see if that fixes the issue (leave the 20-fglrx.conf file the way it is though)
23:55<jmcnaught>hasan1994: i'm just a regular user who reads documentation :)
23:57<hasan1994>jmcnaught name to what or where to move?
23:57<jmcnaught>qwk: i installed dovecot-imapd and dovecot-core on a fresh Wheezy virtual machine, i'm just reporting to you how those files exist by default. Also in additional to following a tutorial, Dovecot has an excellent wiki http://wiki2.dovecot.org/ and there's also #dovecot on freenode where you might get better advice
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23:57<hasan1994>xorg.conf to xorgg.conf?
23:57<hasan1994>or xorgbug.conf
23:57<jmcnaught>hasan1994: usually modern X11 doesn't require the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.. try putting that file in another directory entirely, like your home directory for example. Then restart the computer
23:58<hasan1994>jmcnaught move the file or copy ?
23:58<hasan1994>copy to the home or move i need know thanks
23:59<jmcnaught>hasan1994: move it. the point is to restart without that file being there.
23:59<jmcnaught>hasan1994: also just so it's clear, i'm not an admin and have no official capacity in Debian :)
23:59<hasan1994>ok
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