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00:00<hasan1994>sudo nautilus work in debian?
00:00<hasan1994>i can't move file i need root will above work?
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00:01<hasan1994>oh it worked nvm
00:01<blumoon|2>jmcnaught: did you see my issue from earlier ?
00:02<hasan1994>jmcnaught i moved file but another one appeared
00:02<hasan1994>xorg.conf.original-0
00:02<hasan1994>i don't know sure maybe it was there already
00:02<hasan1994>is this normal so i can restart?
00:02<jmcnaught>hasan1994: sounds like it might have been. yeah try restarting
00:03<hasan1994>brb
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00:04<jmcnaught>blumoon|2: yeah i did. i'm not that familiar with preseed installs to be honest. That example you gave though, for "d-i passwd/user-password crypted password ...." is that an md5 hash of a password?
00:05<blumoon|2>jmcnaught: yes
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00:06<hasan1994>i moved the file to home directory
00:06<hasan1994>but now the screens are mirrored
00:06<jmcnaught>blumoon|2: and you created the hash with "printf "r00tme" | mkpasswd -s -m md5" ?
00:07<hasan1994>Ill try unmiror it ok
00:07<blumoon|2>jmcnaught: i even tried using no numbers only letters no change
00:07<blumoon|2>i used echo instead
00:07<jmcnaught>hasan1994: what about if you go to the system settings > displays ?
00:07<blumoon|2>jmcnaught: i also used md5 sum
00:07<hasan1994>if i turn mirror of its same problem
00:08<hasan1994>and with mirror its merges to 1 and its name laptop
00:08<hasan1994>and without mirror also laptop and laptop
00:08<qwk>I got this error "Restarting IMAP/POP3 mail server: dovecotError: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 6: Unknown section type
00:08<qwk>Fatal: Invalid configecot.confuration in /etc/dovecot/dov
00:08<qwk>"
00:08<hasan1994>Sorry for my explaination :)
00:08<jmcnaught>blumoon|2: try the command i just pasted and note the difference.. btw I'm getting this directly from https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs04.html.en
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00:09<hasan1994>jmc naught should i do sudo amdcccle?
00:09<qwk>this is how it looks like: http://puu.sh/a90MB/311ef10729.png
00:10<blumoon|2>jmcnaught: ty ill go start up another vm and give it a go
00:10<jmcnaught>hasan1994: i don't know what that tool is.. to be honest on my computer with AMD graphics I don't use the proprietary driver, despite being faster i think it's junk
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00:11<jmcnaught>qwk: could you use http://paste.debian.net from now on instead of screenshots?
00:11<hasan1994>jmcnaught what driver do u use?
00:11<jmcnaught>qwk: in your screenshot is the cursor on line 6?
00:11<hasan1994>i forgot it u told me today :) but i don't remember
00:12<jmcnaught>hasan1994: I told *you* earlier that I use the radeon driver, which is the open source one that Debian probably configured out of the box for you
00:12<qwk>jmcnaught, I will use paste.deb from now, I guess its line 6
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00:13<hasan1994>radeon driver from amd website or from debian repository?
00:13<hasan1994>or is it default installed
00:13<hasan1994>?
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00:14<hasan1994>I tried from amd website latest beta drivers but it went not boot :)
00:14<jmcnaught>blumoon|2: also try taking a look at how passwords are hashed in /etc/shadow on your own system. Also "man 3 crypt" has a bit of an explanation for the "$1$" part at the beginning
00:15<jmcnaught>qwk: you guess?
00:15<qwk>yup is line 6
00:16<jmcnaught>hasan1994: first of all, never install drivers from vendors websites, especially if there are packages available in Debian
00:16<hasan1994>ok
00:16<hasan1994>synaptic package?
00:16<hasan1994>i searched for it but i didnt found anything
00:16<blumoon|2>jmcnaught: thanks for the info ill look into that as well
00:17<jmcnaught>hasan1994: secondly, the drivers I use for my AMD graphics are the ones that are installed automatically. You know how the display works *before* you install fglrx etc? I use those, also known as the radeon driver, which Debian installs automatically
00:17<hasan1994>jmcnaught in the debian installation or after debian boot updates come?
00:19<hasan1994>jmcnaught firstly I had that driver installed what u was suggesting
00:20<hasan1994>automatically but it is not good because it didn't detect my monitor
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00:20<hasan1994>and secondly why isn't there in debian website that info u post?
00:21<jmcnaught>qwk: sorry not sure exactly what the problem is based on that screen shot...
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00:22<jmcnaught>hasan1994: the radeon driver is described here: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo
00:23<jmcnaught>hasan1994: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian this might also be of interest to you (in addition to the Debian Handbook and Debian Reference which I and others keep recommending :)
00:23<hasan1994>ok
00:23<hasan1994>jmcnaught where should i report that file i moved to home directory?
00:24<hasan1994>sorry i sound like bot xD asking many questions sorry
00:24<blumoon|2>jmcnaught: thank you that worked
00:25<blumoon|2>jmcnaught: ive been stuck on this all day
00:25<jmcnaught>blumoon|2: cool, glad i could help. i thought it didn't look like a proper passwd hash :)
00:26<hasan1994>btw i didn't sleep today and yesterday because of debian but it was worth it ;)
00:26<jmcnaught>hasan1994: report that file to who? you could replace it I suppose if you think it was workng before you moved it. I recommend learning to use the "mv" and "cp" commands instead of using Nautilus as root
00:26<hasan1994>ok
00:26<jmcnaught>hasan1994: maybe get some rest friend :)
00:27<hasan1994>ok thanks
00:27<hasan1994>i mean report to a website for bug fixing?
00:27<hasan1994>or is it not useful ?
00:30<jmcnaught>hasan1994: well i'm pretty sure that xorg.conf file was created by running the "aticonfig" command, which the instructions on the wiki don't say to do
00:30<hasan1994>okay
00:30<hasan1994>brb restart
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00:31<qwk>jmcnaught, http://paste.debian.net/109424/
00:31<qwk>https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-postfix-e-mail-server-with-dovecot
00:32<qwk>I copied in all the code in the box after "Now enter the following config: into dovecot.conf
00:35<jmcnaught>qwk: i'm assuming the line numbers aren't actually in your file and that this paste is not the complete file.
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00:37<qwk>jmcnaught, I can make a raw paste if you want
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00:37<jmcnaught>qwk: when i set dovecot up for my mail server it took reading most of the dovecot wiki and lots of files in /usr/share/doc/dovecot-* to figure everything out. I'm not sure why Dovecot is complaining about line #6 in your file, I can't see an obvious error there
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00:42<hasan1994>jmcnaught i want to panel move other side
00:42<hasan1994>but i can't because it is laptop + laptop
00:43<hasan1994>in display settings drag panel to other screen
00:43<jmcnaught>hasan1994: drag which panel?
00:43<hasan1994>top panel
00:43<hasan1994>of gnome
00:44<hasan1994>wil ledit text x11 xorg.conf make it work?
00:44<hasan1994>edit
00:45<jmcnaught>hasan1994: oh, i don't know i prefer it on the laptop's screen. you could install the package "gnome-tweak-tool" maybe it has an option for that
00:45<hasan1994>ok
00:45<rom_>y
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00:47<hasan1994>jmcnaught at what settings i can change it?
00:47<hasan1994>i have gnome-tweak-tools installed but i can't find the setting for change
00:49<jmcnaught>hasan1994: honestly I don't know if Gnome even lets you move that bar or how to do it. If you can't find an option in gnome-tweak-tool, maybe you'll find a way to do it here: https://extensions.gnome.org/
00:49<hasan1994>jmcnaught yeh i think also not
00:50<hasan1994>because in extensions gnome.org i see expander of panel
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00:50<hasan1994>so its not supported in display settings nor gnome-tweak-tool
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00:50<hasan1994>thanks bro , do u have any shell theme recommendation for me?
00:50<jmcnaught>hasan1994: Gnome sort of has a reputation of removing configuration options. I just use the default theme myself.
00:51<hasan1994>ok
00:51<hasan1994>u use also gnome right?
00:51<hasan1994>Cool
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00:52<hasan1994>I will use default :) thanks problems are solved
00:52<hasan1994>I go play with blender and music making programs plus sleep later cya
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00:54<jmcnaught>and so ends the multi-day saga of hasan1994 installing fglrx on Debian...
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00:58<rom_>hola je
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01:20<hasan1994>hey how can i remove xfce?
01:20<hasan1994>and its applications ?
01:20<hasan1994>and is it safe to ?
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01:26<SamB>hasan1994: safe in what sense?
01:26<SamB>you mean will you still have a clue how to use your computer? I don't know.
01:26<hasan1994>for example if i remove unity in ubuntu it is not safe
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01:45<qwk>Anyone who can help me install postfix + dovecot + squarelmail working will recieve a www.riseup.net invite + a secret bonus
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01:48<hasan1994>hey guys
01:48<hasan1994>I have removed xfce it worked :) but i need now system backup
01:48<hasan1994>It need to be full system back
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01:49<hasan1994>can i have good website who explains very well :)
01:49<rsr>how do i copy files to root
01:49<hasan1994>sudo mv file path to path
01:49<hasan1994>i am not sure
01:50<hasan1994>but i think
01:50<rsr>let me try
01:50<hasan1994>no
01:50<hasan1994>NO
01:50<hasan1994>U need ask first
01:50<hasan1994>for real proffesional
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01:52<hasan1994>! backup
01:52<dpkg>A backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t in the least. Otherwise eons of built-up data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not; either by HD malfunction, intentional evil by crackers, mischievous glak elves invading your system, or large magnets getting out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (optionally with bzip2 at lowest compression). See <things to backup>.
01:52<hasan1994>!move file to root
01:52<hasan1994>! move file to root
01:52<hasan1994>!tell rsr mv
01:54<jmcnaught>dpkg: tell hasan1994 -about selftell
01:55<jmcnaught>rsr: what do you mean "to root"? and which files?
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02:00<rzr>i want to copy fi ?le " /usr/share/virtualboxVBoxGuestAdditions_2.2.0.iso " to " /usr/share/virtualbox/ " . what should i do
02:01<rzr>while copying it says access denied
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02:06<lKm>Hi, i am trying to set up apcupsd on debian 7.5 amd64, but i keep getting this error: Lock file read error. ERR=Is a directory
02:06<lKm>and the lockfile is set to /var/lock
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02:07<SamB>lKm: /var/lock *is* a directory
02:08<lKm>i know, thats what i thought
02:08<lKm>but i can't figure out where to point it
02:08<sleser>just curius if any1 has tryed a . linux with a desktop with the latest prosesor and best everything u can buy with today
02:08<sleser>and how would a kde work and linux it self
02:09<sleser>just a quastion of quriasity . and what im asking is the top best zenon prosesor with speed ram and all that computer language goods and everything top fast latest for today . destop box
02:09<sleser>if any one is running one and how it feels like .
02:09<sleser>that would be cool to know and make plans . for me
02:09<lKm>sleser, a friend of mine is running MATE on debian 7.5 on a intel i7 4790k
02:09<lKm>he says it runs very well
02:09<sleser>well im asking for zenon
02:10<SamB>never heard of that one
02:10<sleser>why i ask ? because is the expensive of all
02:10<lKm>sleser, i think you mean xeon
02:10<sleser>zenon prosesor no one heard of ?
02:10<lKm>and there are xeons cheaper then some i7s
02:10<sleser>zeon then
02:11<sleser>my brother bout a destop for 500 dolars
02:11<sleser>compared to some pcus cost in ibm 15000 dolars
02:11<sleser>made of zenon and sins im not a computer man
02:11<lKm>sleser, i have a xeon e3-1200 v3 series in my debian server, but it does not have a gui installed
02:12<sleser>but all video grafic people who i work with . recomend a box with a zenon prosesor few prosesors in one box
02:12<sleser> well if to have a kde and good grafic and all installed . becuse to be frank i wont be able to use a shell .
02:12<sleser>im not as good as what some guys are who li ve in a dark . and enjoy it .
02:12<lKm>sleser, i don't understand your english, sorry.
02:12<sleser>im prefer a kde
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02:13<sleser>in your own openion how is a i7 with a kde ?
02:13<sleser>and compare i7 with a pentium 3.46 dual coare
02:13<lKm>sleser, i have not tried it with kde, only mate 2/mate. it runs really smooth and fast
02:14<sleser>how new is your box for today ? for instance in a year it was created
02:14<sleser>an i7
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02:15<lKm>sleser, the i7 4970k box is about 1 month old
02:15<sleser>how much ?
02:15<sleser>in dolars in your state
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02:15<sleser>and what its realy worth buying just box i dont care about screen cause i know what comes in pakage is crap
02:15<lKm>sleser, about $1300 usd
02:15<sleser>thanks
02:16<lKm>but pc parts are super expensive here
02:16<lKm>like SUPER expensive
02:16<sleser>why arent you trying kde on it ? just a quastion of curiasity
02:16<sleser>i runing a 10 year old computer on kde
02:16<sleser>runs ok
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02:16<lKm>sleser, it is my friends pc, but we are both very happy with mate
02:16<sleser>but im planing to buy something for today
02:16<sleser>try kde
02:16<sleser>a live cd and let me know
02:16<sleser>id like to know how the experience is
02:17<sleser>and how fast and all that
02:17<sleser>not aksking u to install. just a live cd
02:17<lKm>sleser, as i said it is my friends pc so i can't try it right now
02:17<lKm>i would try it on my xeon server... but i can't really turn that off
02:17<sleser>any day is fine just let me know ones you get a chanse to hurasss it or get a premiton to .
02:17<sleser>np
02:17<sleser>why i ask . people ask zeons alot
02:18<sleser>i work with people who do weding hall videos and alot of grafic work
02:18<sleser>all they use zeons
02:18<sleser>nothing other
02:18<sleser>all use windows
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02:18<sleser>so cant know . how it runs
02:18<jmcnaught>!enter
02:18<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
02:18<jmcnaught>sleser: ^^^ that message about enter is for you :)
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02:18<lKm>sleser, i7s can be just as good as xeons if you get the right ones, xeons are generally for servers
02:19<sleser>yes . and im sorry i have a habit i dont do it for . like for instance purpouse
02:19<sleser>no 1 is chating anyhow and when one chats i try to pute things in one . hole big sentense
02:19<sleser>i got you
02:19<lKm>is english not your first language?
02:19<sleser>so you recomend i should just go with whats worth and a good deal
02:20<sleser>russian and persian is my 1st
02:20<sleser>english is my second im a sitisen and live here over 20 years
02:20<sleser>all 3 is my life
02:20<lKm>sleser, go with what is a good deal, don't just buy stuff because other people have it. but get it if it is good/worth it
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02:20<sleser>is what the meat on my boddy and life is basicaly made of .
02:20<sleser>i got you
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02:21<qwk>Restarting IMAP/POP3 mail server: dovecotError: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 6: Unknown section type
02:21<qwk>Fatal: Invalid configuration in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
02:21<sleser>thanks for advice man
02:21<qwk>https://ghostbin.com/paste/ug3du
02:21<qwk>Any idea what could be the problem?
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02:34<jmcnaught>qwk: just a shot in the dark, but maybe it's an invalid character on that line that just looks like a space? try retyping that line manually
02:34<qwk>okidoki
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02:36<qwk>same
02:36<qwk>maybe it need a {
02:36<qwk>over it
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02:44<swan>hi
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02:52<lKm>whats the best way to convince someone to stay with debian (they are thinking about switching to ubuntu server) they claim it is more stable
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02:57<sleser>to convince one im a . to chek their iftop activity
02:57<sleser>to many ads
02:57<sleser>bhind your beautiful kde or what ever interface you are using
02:57<sleser>its in my own openion
02:58<sleser>and not tryint to make any distro look bad
02:58<sleser>i like debian clean . and works rite when you seti it rite
02:58<sleser>im using linux sins 9 or maby longer munths i tryed linux mint and next debian
02:58<sleser>debian is my choise after all
02:58<sleser>is all i can advice .
02:59<sleser>there milion others who . have other experience and openion and choise
02:59<pi>hi
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05:25<loner269>hi
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05:26<loner269>anyone around i need some help
05:27<babilen>dpkg: ask
05:27<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
05:27<loner269>lol
05:28<loner269>im on sparky linux says powerd by debian i installed it i like it but when i restarted it makes moniter go to sleep like no signal or something
05:29<loner269>tryd boot repair thing on here saw theres a check box to fix my problem but it didnt any ideas?
05:29<babilen>dpkg: sparky
05:29<dpkg>SparkyLinux is a Linux distribution based on <testing>. It is not supported in #debian. http://sparkylinux.org/ See also <based on debian>.
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05:30<loner269>thats not helpin me
05:30<babilen>loner269: I have no idea if they have an IRC channel. If you can't find one ask in ##linux on irc.freenode.net or use a distribution with more readily available support.
05:31<loner269>why is it i find something i really like an im told find something else fine any suggestions for something good then?
05:32<loner269>never mind sorry i botherd you thanks any way
05:32<babilen>I don't quite follow. This channel only support pure Debian for a number of social and technical reasons. Your distribution is not supported here and you should therefore take it elsewhere or install Debian.
05:32<babilen>All the best!
05:34<loner269>1 i tryd installin debian epic fail 2 this is debian an i was told its stable not a test or what ever 3 thanks for your time have a good 1
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05:38<mjt>gosh, what an idiotic way of typing things...
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06:18<spippi>hi i have a problem with wifi, i see icon it's connected, but there isn't internet if i refresh connection work
06:19<spippi>freeze after 10 minute ca
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06:29<deux>hello all
06:29<deux>i need some help with burning cds - the program (i used many, but lets say brasero for the time being) finishes burning but the cd remains blank... i can't seem to be able to fix it
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06:41<deux>can anyone help me/
06:41<deux>?
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07:30<rudi_s>It looks like 7.6 was released, where can I find the announcement?
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07:33<babilen>dpkg: 7.6
07:33<dpkg>The sixth <point release> for Debian 7 "Wheezy" (7.6) is scheduled for July 12th, 2014. This point release will correct some serious bugs and copy security updates across to the main archive. https://lists.debian.org/debian-stable-announce/2014/07/msg00000.html
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07:34<babilen>Hmm, lets check standard mailing lists .. haven't seen an announcement yet.
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07:44<babilen>rudi_s: There does not seem to be an announcement yet
07:45<babilen>(at least not on the usual mailing lists)
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07:46<rudi_s>babilen: Thanks, I'll wait.
07:46<babilen>Anything in particular you want to know?
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07:47<rudi_s>babilen: I was just curious because I saw the new packages in apt-get and wanted to get an overview what changed. But thanks to dpkg's 7.6 pre-announce link I could get an overview.
07:48<babilen>tgre :)
07:48<babilen>s/tgre/great/
07:48<rudi_s>;-)
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08:05<Greylocks>There is a link to download 7.6 on the main page now, so dist-upgrade may work
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08:14<abrotman>Greylocks: 7.5 you mean ?
08:14<abrotman>oh .. weird
08:15<Greylocks>Nope 7.6.:P
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08:16<abrotman>Greylocks: Right, but no announcement
08:17<abrotman>https://lists.debian.org/debian-stable-announce/2014/07/msg00000.html
08:17<abrotman>But no announcement about it's actual release ..
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08:53<vrishab>Hi ..
08:53<vrishab>I did [ ... ]# echo 1 >> /usr/bin/rhythmbox followed by "debsums rhythmbox" ... debsums doesn't report any checksum errors ... I don't have any prelink package installed .. any clues ?
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09:10<drylelite>i just banned myself from the entire deb system, no idea how that happend all i know is i was baning/droping some asian ipees
09:11<drylelite>sudenly my teamspeak server stop accepting connections soon after that i was dropped fro my srvr aswell :D
09:11<drylelite>any ideas wth =)
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09:11<drylelite>so i had to dump my entire drop.sh file :\ clear bans and now its all g00t
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10:34<Q_PRS>guys, I need some help I gues, I think I broke my flash drive. It seems I cant even partition it
10:35<Q_PRS>dmesg pastebin: http://paste.debian.net/109476/
10:35<Q_PRS>fdisk -l pastebin: http://paste.debian.net/109479/
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10:58<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: it looks fine to me
10:58<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: what's the problem?
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11:00<Q_PRS>well, I tried to format the disk and set an win7 image on it, unfortunatelly, the laptop I was doing it on went into hibernate, and such I feel pretty dumb... Anyway, after plugging in the power cord, the flash disk is not there anymore. Trying my main computer, debian, I cant even format the darn thing anymore
11:00<Q_PRS>gparted and fdisk cant find the disk. Trying to format, I get an error that there is no media to be found
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11:01<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: the disk is currently on /dev/sde
11:01<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: so you should be able to format that
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11:01<Q_PRS>dmesg does see it under /dev/sde but thats it
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11:02<Q_PRS>yeah, but I cant format it
11:03<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: what happens when you run fdisk /dev/sde; or similar?
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11:03<Q_PRS>No medium found
11:03<Q_PRS>same with dd
11:04<drylelite>lsblk ?
11:04<Q_PRS>nope
11:05<drylelite>dunno then
11:05<Q_PRS>yeah, same here, dont really understand it
11:05<Q_PRS>I think I really broke it
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11:06<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: hrm; and you don't see anything new in dmesg?
11:06<Q_PRS>that the strange thing, it does show up under dmesg
11:06<drylelite>inded
11:06<drylelite>have u tried turning it off and on again?
11:06<drylelite>:P
11:06<Q_PRS>my pc?
11:07<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: I see it there, but I'm wondering if you see any new messages now that you've tried to access it
11:07<drylelite>hih i guess u never seen the IT crowd :p
11:07<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: sometimes the USB bus is horribly flaky, and devices fall off of it
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11:07<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: you might try plugging it into a different port, for example... but dmesg should show you everything that is going on
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11:07<Q_PRS>okey, I'll try it
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11:09<Q_PRS>same problem, it does show up under dmesg (I plugged it in a USB3.0 port instead of the front usb2.0 port: http://paste.debian.net/109486/
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11:09<Q_PRS>still, no fdisk, and dd gives the no medium found error
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11:10<drylelite>lsblk now?
11:11<drylelite>then mkfs.ext4 ? /dev/sdx
11:11<Q_PRS>nope, no lsblk: http://paste.debian.net/109487/
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11:11<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: hrm... normally next you should see the actual size of the USB device
11:11<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: is this an actual USB key? or something else?
11:11<Q_PRS>root@DEBIAN-BAK:/# mkfs.ext4 ? /dev/sdx
11:11<Q_PRS>mke2fs 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
11:11<Q_PRS>mkfs.ext4: invalid blocks '/dev/sdx' on device '?'
11:12<drylelite>erm no dont type that
11:12<drylelite>u sure
11:12<Q_PRS>its a new usb key, bought it 2 days ago
11:12<drylelite>ur usb isn
11:12<drylelite> /dev/sdc ????
11:12<drylelite>:D
11:12<Q_PRS>na, that's a sata disk
11:12<drylelite>ah my bad tought i read 14G :P
11:12<Q_PRS>erm, hold on
11:13<dondelelcaro>[12544.814076] sd 17:0:0:0: [sde] Attached SCSI removable disk <-- this looks like there isn't an actual mmc or whatever plugged into the usb key
11:13<Q_PRS>149G drylelite :-)
11:13<dondelelcaro>sd 6:0:0:0: [sde] 15240576 512-byte logical blocks: (7.80 GB/7.26 GiB <-- this is the sort of thing you should actually see
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11:14<Q_PRS>I know, that's the strange part, I think I really, really broke it. I formatted it under Windows, perhaps that's the real problem...
11:14<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: it's possible that it may start working eventually, but it's also possible that the usb device has screwed itself up; it *may* be possible to use some windows-only utility to reset the thing
11:14<Q_PRS>If it would only be the partition table, I could understand
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11:15<Q_PRS>well, lets just bring the usb key back to the store, sniff sniff
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11:15<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: you might look on kington's website to see if they have a utility to check the drive
11:16<Q_PRS>hmmm, that would an idea
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11:17<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: but otherwise, just return it
11:18<Q_PRS>yeah, no other options, never knew I could brake a usb key like that
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11:20<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: yeah, it's entirely possible... they just have microcontrollers which talk to the flash, and if the microcontroller fails or writes things badly, it might be unresurectable
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11:20<Q_PRS>still, I blame the windows pc I used it on...
11:20<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: at least, without knowing way more about the microcontroller and how to reprogram it
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11:21<Q_PRS>I know how, but that takes waaaaaaaay to much time for a USB stick...
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11:27<dondelelcaro>Q_PRS: right
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11:29<gernot>I've installed Nautilus and Tracker. Shouldn't the Nautilus search use Tracker now? I read that Tracker can be integrated with Nautilus, and I'm not finding anything about additional configuration steps. Is there anything else I have to do? (Tracker works using tracker-gui.)
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11:31<averythomas>Every other day my debian 7 server has just been freezing then not responding to anything until I boot it. This is the log just before it stops, http://pastebin.com/nMJV7ttA
11:32<averythomas>syslog^
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11:37<dondelelcaro>averythomas: that looks like your machine is running out of memory... but it's very odd that the OOM wasn't engaged
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11:38<averythomas>dondelelcaro: how do I stop it from running out of memory?
11:38<dondelelcaro>ah; nevermind... that's grsec doin gthat
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11:39<averythomas>When I tried to start a java process it said "too many files open" idk if that relates
11:39<gernot>averythomas, a quick Google search hints that it's an OVH server. If so, it looks like OVH's monitoring scripts aren't working so well and you should bring it up with them, or disable the cron job.
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11:40<averythomas>yea it is an OVH server
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11:44<blumoon|2>i am trying to set the disk io scheduler to noop by passing it to grub i added elevator = noop to /etc/grub.d/40_custom updated grub rebooted and it does not change
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11:47<averythomas>gernot, how do I do what the answer says on here? http://superuser.com/questions/387706/allow-snmpd-to-read-proc-net-when-running-a-grsecurity-kernel-and-the-grsec-p
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12:23<Guest2531>ls
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12:37<Osmann>EUZUBILLAHIMINEÞÞEYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
12:37<Osmann>ALLAHU EKBERRRRR! LA ÝLAHE ÝLLALLAH MUHAMMEDEN RESULULLAH!
12:37<Osmann>Repent, has not sinned
12:37<Osmann>In the desert, the camel lost then found a person who is very, very worrying, Allahu ta'ala, and the repentance of his servant, and continue to rejoice. The prophet Muhammad pbuh
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12:38<drylelite>lol
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12:40<oldlaptop>huh?
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13:05<blumoon|2>bump* i am trying to set the disk io scheduler to noop by passing it to grub i added elevator = noop to /etc/grub.d/40_custom updated grub rebooted and it does not change
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13:12<somiaj>blumoon|2: did you run update-grub after you did teh changes?
13:13<oldlaptop>blumoon|2: what exactly are you doing to 40_custom?
13:13<blumoon|2>yes i did and it does appear in the grub config but when i check the disk scheduler it still has not changed
13:13<blumoon|2>i just add elevator = noop to it
13:13<oldlaptop>ah, it is on the kernel commandline?
13:14<oldlaptop>(see /proc/cmdline)
13:15<blumoon|2>no
13:15<somiaj>blumoon|2: did you chmod +x that file?
13:15<oldlaptop>I don't think you add arguments to the kernel commandline in 40_custom
13:15<oldlaptop>see /etc/default/grub
13:15<somiaj>it actually looks like it need to be a script that is run, not just a config file, read the /etc/grub.d/README and see if you can figure out the syntax
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13:16<oldlaptop>40_custom is (unless I'm seriously mistaken) for adding extra menu entries
13:16<somiaj>oldlaptop: it looks like you need to modif /etc/default/grub
13:16<oldlaptop>as a matter of fact the comment at the top says as much
13:16<oldlaptop>custom menu entries
13:16<somiaj>no 40_custom is a script for adding custom boot configs to grub, say you wanted to bood some forign os that grub cannot detect
13:17<somiaj>you would need a script to configure a whole entry, I think /etc/default/grub is what you need and edit the enviroment variables for the GRUB_CMDLINE or something like that
13:17<somiaj>my guess is you need to change the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX varibales in /etc/default/grub
13:17<oldlaptop>somiaj: yes, custom menu entries
13:18<somiaj>oldlaptop: sorry still tired, got you and blumoon|2 messed up, that was all for him.
13:18<oldlaptop>yes, and you're absolutely correct in the actual content ;)
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14:07<drylelite>anyone knows about a good guide to secure postfix / courierpop3 email server?
14:07<drylelite>*on deb ofc
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14:13<centrx>drylelite, Securing Debian is general manual, I do not know if it has those programs in it. https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/
14:13<centrx>drylelite, postfix is considered quite secure itself, and Debian usually has secure defaults
14:13<drylelite>well i pretty much have evyrthing secured only rning postfix/mail on almost default configuration :p
14:15<drylelite>i see thanks, will make sure to chek it out as soon as im done with this old orerilly book
14:15<centrx>drylelite, A postfix-specific guide/IRC channel will be more knowledgeable on this, regardless of distribution. Try #postfix on Freenode.
14:15<drylelite>it had s some explanations on how to secure maill, but moocsttpkages tehre wer obsoleet
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14:15<drylelite>thank you kind sir!
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14:18<centrx>drylelite, Also FYI weekdays are more active on these tech IRC channels
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14:19<drylelite>on freenode or on debianirc? are there any other channels on this network :)
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14:26<centrx>Both
14:27<centrx>drylelite, both networks and many channels
14:27<centrx>#debian Freenode is usually more active
14:27<drylelite>mkay :> guess il just do list here, not sure i wanna do it on freenode tho:D
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14:27<drylelite>here if anyone is reading, http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html
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14:34<oldlaptop>drylelite: "DebianIRC" is just an alias for OFTC
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15:58<Q_PRS>*BUUUUUURB*
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16:04<txt-file>why is python-spice-client-gtk only available for i386 and amd64?
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16:08<centrx>txt-file, Perhaps upstream is only available for those architectures?
16:11<txt-file>maybe … let me take a look
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16:15<txt-file>but anyway … from the package name I thought that it contains code in python. and i thought that python is platform independant
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16:17<centrx>txt-file, Python and similar languages support attaching C extensions that can be platform-specific
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16:18<txt-file>ah … ok
16:18<centrx>txt-file, Here, the python package depends on "runtime libraries", such as libspice-client-glib-2.0-1
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17:03<mathieu>anyone know a good rdp client ?
17:03<abrotman>mathieu: apt-cache search rdp
17:04<mathieu>yea but i want advice on which people really use
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17:06<centrx>mathieu, I've always used rdesktop
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17:25<maria>hola
17:25<mathieu>thanks centrx work like a charm
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17:27<maria>hola
17:27<maria>hola
17:27<maria>hanana
17:27<centrx>!es
17:27<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
17:28<drylelite>!si
17:28<dpkg>hmm... si is Slovenia. For Slovene speakers / Kanal za slovenske uporabnike -> #debian.si on irc.oftc.net.
17:28<maria>ola
17:28<drylelite>my channel is empty :((((
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17:37<devil>\o/
17:37<devil>Germany is soccer world champion
17:38<abrotman>football?
17:38<abrotman>oh, wrong channel
17:38<abrotman>dpkg: tell me about ot
17:45<txt-file>abrotman, not even #debian-offtopic is talking about it ;-)
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17:48<devil>yeah, linuxersare lame :P
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17:49<drylelite>haha :D
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17:49<drylelite>oh devil you devil you
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17:49<drylelite>linuxers are superior in every aspect :D
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17:53<txt-file>;-)
17:53<loner269>hi
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18:42<boscaiolo>Wasted a whole day trying to get sane to talk to a Samsung multifunction dev -- Time to buy one that really does work with sid
18:44<boscaiolo>Anyone here have a recommendation? This CLX4195FN worked with stable, but I am defeated on sid, which I need for other reasons
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18:45<boscaiolo>I'm looking for aneconomical color laser networked multifunction printer/scanner
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18:47<sakax>i prefer HP, never had issues with these devices
18:48<boscaiolo>sakax: OK, that sounds a safe choice
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18:49<sakax>boscaiolo: i am not at home right now, but i think i have a hp officet which is a print/scan/fax all-in-one device
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18:50<boscaiolo>sakax: I'd better browse their site then. I was really pleased with the Samsung, but it is useless ATM!
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18:51<sakax>it's something you will learn to do next time when buying hardware :ld
18:51<sakax>do your homework :)
18:52<boscaiolo>I thought I had, and they do provide a very slick installer for Linux. But apparently it isn't always going to work :-(
18:52<sakax>are you sure the device is not supported?
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18:53<sakax>you need cups for printing and sane for the scanning
18:53<boscaiolo>They only give proper support on mac and doze
18:54<boscaiolo>the linux driver comes with a very long disclaimer. I had it running fine under arch and under wheezy
18:55<sakax>well?
18:55<boscaiolo>the printer installs fine by any of three routes, but I have totally failed to get sane to connect to it by any of them
18:55<sakax>than the device should work
18:55<sakax>ok
18:56<sakax>http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl is it shown as supported?
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18:56<boscaiolo>(3 routes being some debs they issued for the parts, the tarballed installer and an improved version of the installer by some dedicated nut
18:56<boscaiolo>shown as iffy IIRC
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19:35<hasan1994>guys i am seeking for debian wheezy gnome default installer?
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19:36<abrotman>hasan1994: and do you have broadband/.
19:36<abrotman>?
19:36<vrkalak>i thought the default Debian DE is Xfce
19:37<txt-file>vrkalak, not in wheezy
19:38<hasan1994>abrotman i am using fibernet
19:38<hasan1994>is that broadband?
19:38<hasan1994>i dont know what broadband is
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19:39<hasan1994>but why u asking btw?
19:39<sakax>use the netinstaller
19:39<sakax>all desktop environments can be selected
19:39<hasan1994>within expert mode yes
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19:39<hasan1994>but thats not easy
19:39<sakax>expert mode is not required
19:40<hasan1994>ok i didnt see any option to change desktop environments
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19:41<sakax>yes there is, under advanced options if i am not mistaken
19:41<hasan1994>ok
19:41<sakax>change to your prefered desktop environment and then use default graphical install mode
19:41<hasan1994>sakax is the netinstaller the fastest to install debian?
19:42<sakax>it's the smallest one and will download the required packages on the fly
19:42<hasan1994>it takes like 1hour to install debian
19:43<hasan1994>and in ubuntu 20 mins max
19:43<abrotman>dpkg: tell hasan1994 about firmware images
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19:48<hasan1994>i found it
19:48<hasan1994>livecd gnome debian 7.5
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20:06<abrotman>no .. but okay
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22:02<hasan1994>hey i am trying to install thisblender 2.70 deb
22:02<hasan1994>but it gives me dependency errors how do i install the dependency thats its giving me?
22:02<somiaj>where did you get thisblender 2.70 deb and are you sure it is compadable with the version of debian you are running?
22:02<hasan1994>https://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/blender/download
22:03<hasan1994>I am using wheezy
22:03<somiaj>yea you do not want to do that
22:03<hasan1994>what is the correct way to get latest version?
22:03<somiaj>installing jessie packages on wheezy is not recomended and can (and lots of times does) break your system
22:03<somiaj>you can try to compile it yourself
22:03<somiaj>,v blender
22:03<judd>Package: blender on i386 -- squeeze: 2.49.2~dfsg-2+b2; squeeze-multimedia: 2.49.2~dfsg-2.1; wheezy: 2.63a-1; jessie: 2.70a-2+b2; sid: 2.70a-2+b2
22:03<hasan1994>okay
22:03<somiaj>,check-backport blender
22:04<judd>Backporting package blender in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libopencolorio-dev [!hurd-i386].
22:04<hasan1994>okay i am a bit behind
22:04<somiaj>I have no clue how easy/hard it is to compile, but it looks like you will have to backport at least one libary libopencolorio with it
22:04<hasan1994>ok
22:04<hasan1994>I go to irc channel blendercoders :)
22:05<somiaj>I can send you isntructions on how to try to comiple it, but it may require a good amount of work and some knowledge on your part.
22:05<hasan1994>Thanks i appreciate it somiaj
22:05<hasan1994>I just need the questions answered
22:05<centrx>dpkg, tell hasan1994 about ssb
22:05<somiaj>you could also try to compile it and install it in /usr/local from blender upstream, they may know how easy/hard/possible that is on wheezy, but that is not supported here
22:05<somiaj>note as long as you only install stuf in /usr/local and don't mess with core libaries that method works just fine and you can use stow if you want to manage local isntalls.
22:06<centrx>hasan1994, You can also do a source backport using the Debian package from the future. See private message from the dpkg bot
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22:06<hasan1994>is there add repository ?
22:06<somiaj>but in this case someone has not made a blender .deb for wheezy, so you have to make a custom one for yourself.
22:06<somiaj>you get a hold of the source code and compling tools and build it.
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22:07<hasan1994>ok but my plan is to add ppa irie etc
22:07<somiaj>well version 2.7 since 2.63 doesn't seem to work for your needs.
22:07<hasan1994>will adding repositories work?
22:07<somiaj>do not mix, adding a ppa is wrose than tryign to install a jessie package on wheezy.
22:07<hasan1994>ok thanks centrx and somiaj
22:07<somiaj>you will find yoruself one day with a dependency loop/broken machine.
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