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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-07-19

---Logopened Sat Jul 19 00:00:59 2014
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00:34<lauty>hola
00:35<lauty>hablen putisss
00:35<lauty>que son todos maricas aca? chupa pijas ;)
00:36<sney>usually the rude hispanophones are 12 year olds from spain, not argentina
00:36<sney>this is new, but also not new.
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00:36<lauty>hi pitches
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02:55<helmut_>hi
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03:25<shirish_>some of my mails are not coming on a certain debian mailing list , it's a generic mailing list, whom should I ask for help/advice ?
03:25<shirish_>is there any specific channel I can go to for help and advice ?
03:26<ompaul>$generic list master
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03:27<ompaul>see the mailing list page and look for the admin of the list
03:27<ompaul>and remember it's not their job so they'll get to you when they can
03:27<ompaul>you could check (if you run your own mail server) your logs for any clue
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03:29<shirish_>ompaul: I couldn't find any admin for the list, the list is at https://lists.debian.org/debian-dug-in/
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03:31<ompaul>https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
03:31<ompaul>read it all and see what applies to you
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05:56<utente>On my dual-boot laptop (Debian and XP) i upgraded from stable to testing (apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade). now grub don't show the OS on SDA1. How to have back the boot option for XP on sda1?
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06:34<yaiza>Whats up
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07:05<valdyn>uso: try installing os-prober
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08:09<giorgos>hello?
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08:09<giorgos>hello?
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08:59<Prostetnic>hi
09:00<Prostetnic>could anyone tell me the right channel to ask some packaging questions?
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09:03<rudi_s>Prostetnic: #debian-mentors
09:03<Prostetnic>Thanks rudi_s
09:03<rudi_s>Or you can just ask here, #debian-mentors is for new Debian packages mostly.
09:03<Prostetnic>It's kind of a new package question
09:04<Prostetnic>Actually what I'm triyng to do is backport mysql-workbench to wheezy
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09:05<Prostetnic>but it is saying I need vsqlite-- which doesn't appear to have a package
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09:05<Prostetnic>I can compile it without packaging it
09:06<Prostetnic>So I tried to follow a basic package guide, however it falls down near the start.
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09:07<Prostetnic>It looks like there's a step missing or something because it seems to be comparing the files it finds when trying to build against /dev/null and finds a difference with diff
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09:09<Prostetnic>I'll check over at #debian-mentors to see if this is their kind of thing.
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09:42<oxez>how would I override CC= for building in a package, I imagine this would go in rules?
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09:42<sney>yup
09:43<oxez>So how would I overwrite it in rules? :P
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09:50<sney>probably a declare -x in dh_override_auto_build? try it and see, or see if it's in the maint-guide somewhere
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10:52<bsps>is there any browser with flash that can be installed or run for 1 user?
10:52<Guest3218>hi :p
10:53<bsps>how to get one user to run flash, while protecting other users from accidentialy using flash?
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10:54<centrx>bsps, That would depend on the browser
10:54<centrx>bsps, One way would be to install the browser to his home directory so other's don't use it
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10:54<centrx>bsps, But there is no way to prevent a regular user from doing the same thing with his own local installation
10:55<centrx>bsps, You can't block their network because you are allowing them to use browse the Web
10:56<bsps>centrx, I mean the system wide programs should be not allowed to run flash, I do not want flash to be installed on the system itself
10:56<bsps>which broser can be easilly installed by the user for himself, and supports flash?
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10:56<bsps>or which browser can easily install for the user only a flash plugin without system install
10:57<centrx>bsps, All the browsers can do it
10:57<bsps> any one you can recommend? that works well in debian
10:57<centrx>bsps, chromium (Chrome) and iceweasel (Firefox) are the two most common ones
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10:58<olegb>bsps: and if you dont install flash a user could mostlike install a plugin in his/her own directory
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11:00<bsps> in firefox I am redirected to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ is that the best way?
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11:01<olegb>bsps: https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
11:01<bsps>but they do not offer local install
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11:01<bsps>http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ is about the system wide installation
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11:02<olegb>bsps: localinstall is bad IMHO
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11:03<bsps>olasd, how to keep system free from adobe's crap, do not run their installer as root, and do not allow users to run flash by accident - while allowing 1 user to use flash?
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11:03<olegb>bsps: just make sure that _one_ user updates and knows what that user is doing :-)
11:04<bsps>olasd, yeah well if that user is compromised then whatever, user to user isolation is strong
11:04<bsps>well it is bad on linux, but grsecurity linux should work
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12:00<ttymonkey>Is there a tool to to automate rebuilding a kernel or other package with my own configuration?
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12:03<ttymonkey>My current issue is that frontswap and cleancache isn't enabled in the jessie 3.14 kernel
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12:13<Osmann>EUZUBILLAHIMINEÞÞEYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
12:13<Osmann>ALLAHU EKBERRRRR! LA ÝLAHE ÝLLALLAH MUHAMMEDEN RESULULLAH!
12:13<Osmann>I did the obligatory prayers five times a day to the nation. And I promised myself that, who (beside me) taking care not to make the five daily prayers comes ahead of time, I'll put it to heaven. Who says prayer does not show attention to me I do not have a word for it.! Prophet Muhammad (s.a.v.)
12:13<Osmann>hell if you did until the needle tip could not remove your head from prostration Prophet Muhammad pbuh
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12:35<Gjj9>\disconnect
12:35<Gjj9>\close
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12:53<DrZaius>does anybody know where is the tty7 conf saved?
12:53<DrZaius>(i would expect something on /etc/inittab, but theres nothing there)
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12:53<ncl>tty7 is used by Xorg
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12:55<Gunsmith>Hey all I use a cnc machine a good bit for gunsmith work and the machine I am using is manual at the moment and I am upgrading it to be computerized I was told there was a cnc open source software
12:55<DrZaius>okay, i just grepped the whole /etc/X11/ the number 7, it does not seem to be nothing configured there
12:55<DrZaius> :S
12:55<Gunsmith>Is there one for debian wheezy ?
12:56<DrZaius>Gunsmith: 100% visolate - tool for engraving PCBs using CNCs ?
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12:56<DrZaius>not that i know what cnc ares
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12:58<Gunsmith>Drzius now would that also work for any type of cnc job the reason I ask I at times will be making custom firearms parts
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13:00<DrZaius>Gunsmith: i just searched the debian repo for cnc. I have no idea about weapons or even what cnc is
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13:00<Gunsmith>Ok thank you but you have gave me a starting point
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13:02<canaima>hola
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13:05<DrZaius>I know i make weird questions... for those paying attention to my previous question, heres the answer... you can logout without root from cli using xfce4-session-logout without modifiying any configuration. Probably there are more ways tho
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13:19<fektom>hi all
13:19<fektom>I would like to ask something about inetd
13:19<fektom>I'm thinking of install it, because debian setup didn't install it by itself
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13:20<centrx>!ask
13:20<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:21<fektom>But if I install inetd does it take the control automatically over all my services?
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13:22<fektom>Or shall I do a lot of configurations after I installed?
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13:23<fektom>I use debian 7.6 if it matters
13:23<centrx>fektom, Install it and find out?
13:24<centrx>fektom, Look for the README.Debian file
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13:25<fektom>can I find Readme file for inetd, if it is not installed yet?
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13:25<centrx>fektom, I couldn't find a link in the usual places but I am sure it is somewhere. You can download the source package at least
13:26<centrx>extract the source tarball
13:26<centrx>Somehow I don't think inetd takes over existing services
13:27<jmcnaught>fektom: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.inetd.html might get you started. If it were me, I'd be downloading the actual package and playing around with how it works in a VM
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13:29<fektom>I'll try to find some readme for
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13:30<jmcnaught>fektom: there's also a few different inetd implementations in wheezy. Why not install the package itself?
13:30<fektom>jmcnaught: thanks for the link. This was the first reading I have done in the morning. :)
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13:33<fektom>jmcnaught: It's maybe because I really love my system being clean. I switched from Winxp just some months ago and I had the experience with windowses that if I install too many programs, even I later uninstall them, the machine gets slower and slower
13:34<fektom>sometimes I like to know the answer before I perform any task to find out
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13:35<jmcnaught>fektom: for testing stuff like this I use a virtual machine. Specifically I use libvirt/KVM (with virt-manager as a GUI when needed). I have a freshly installed Wheezy VM with just the base system installed which I clone. That way I can muck around as much as I want, and delete the VM without messing up the host system
13:35<jmcnaught>fektom: if your computer is not really able to do virtualization, an alternative would be LXC containers
13:36<jmcnaught>fektom: but you're definitely right about learning as much as you can before installing something :)
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13:40<fektom>jmcnaught: I never used any VM, but it sounds good
13:42<fektom>jmcnaught: how does it work? Shall I install a package which will clone my system into an img file? And how can I run later the cloned system? First I boot the normal system, then I have to start the clone?
13:45<josephCool> I am looking to set up a cross compile build server and mirror. This is for local. And it is for the rasbian. How do I do this ? with qemu ? apt-mirror ect
13:46<josephCool>the ideal thing would be to upload to server (sources file) have a qemu of raspbian and have that build the package and then move to the mirror ? but I am not sure.
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13:47<josephCool>I make medical device front ends and would like to have repo so that clients can get updates from me also
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13:50<Brigo>josephCool, i think that would work. It is called cross-compiling, try google
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13:50<jmcnaught>fektom: there's not really a fully automated way to clone your host system into a VM that I'm aware of, but a VM will give you a sandbox to play around in. It's like a virtual computer running inside your computer. https://wiki.debian.org/SystemVirtualization might get you started. The ones I recommend checking out are KVM and LXC (which isn't really virtualization). You might also be interested in the "debman" command from debian-goodies package,
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13:52<josephCool>Brigo: I have googled was looking at buildd but not sure if I can use that for cross compile toochains ect. Looking for more dos on it
13:52<josephCool>Like linaros raspberry pi toolchain
13:53<Brigo>josephCool, sorry, i never do it, so i can help you :)
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13:59<fektom>jmcnaught: thanks, I bookmark the page. That shall be useful
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14:01<fektom>man inetd
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14:19<francisco>hi
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14:19<Guest3228>hola
14:19<SynrGy>if you have a debian support question, just ask
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14:31<sifar>man pastebin
14:31<sifar>sorry
14:32<sifar>I ddn't mean to type it.
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15:36<fr33domlover>Hello! Anyone knows how to solve the policykit memory leak? I have a server with Debian 7 and XFCE (and some gnome packages too), and after several days of uptime policykit becomes the biggest RAM user
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15:37<fr33domlover>currently 130MB and slowly rising
15:37<fr33domlover>I tried removing some packages like pulseaudio, but is there a known solution to this?
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15:44<SynrGy>fr33domlover: what's the name of the process that leaks?
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15:45<fr33domlover>SynrG, polkitd. I found related issues in Launchpad for non-debian distros, but no debbug (or maybe I missed it)
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15:46<SynrGy>fr33domlover: the only bugs i could find for this are very old and therefore surely fixed by now
15:46<SynrGy>,v policykit-1
15:46<judd>Package: policykit-1 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 0.96-4+squeeze1; squeeze: 0.96-4+squeeze2; wheezy: 0.105-3; jessie: 0.105-6; sid: 0.105-6; experimental: 0.112-2
15:46<SynrGy>fr33domlover: a pure debian system 7, or with additional repos added?
15:47<fr33domlover>yes
15:47<SynrGy>fr33domlover: show at paste.debian.net output of 'apt-cache policy'
15:47<SynrGy>yes? which? that's an either/or question :)
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15:48<fr33domlover>pure debian 7 stable. maybe I installed 2-3 things from source
15:48<fr33domlover>just some apps, nothing system related
15:49<fr33domlover>on wait
15:49<fr33domlover>I also have yacy and I2P repos... :-)
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15:52<SynrGy>fr33domlover: i've never seen this issue on a pure debian system. that's all i know about it
15:53<SynrGy>and the bugs you dug up are ancient, and not against debian ...
15:53<SynrGy>so probably not at all relevant.
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15:53<SynrGy>i can only assume you are 'special'. sorry :/
15:53<fr33domlover>SynrGy, thanks anyway. Maybe it's a rare issue because laptops users reboot often and servers don't have GUIs often
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15:54<fr33domlover>I have a laptop which is also a server... :)
15:54<SynrGy>no. plenty of people have home servers which are ordinary desktop systems with some services on them too
15:54<SynrGy>that's fairly common
15:54<fr33domlover>oh, great then
15:55<fr33domlover>I'll see which files polkitd has open and try to figure this out...
15:55<SynrGy>k. good luck
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15:56<SynrGy>it could be excessive use of some resource in polkitd by some *other* processes, i.e. not a bug in polkitd at all
15:56<SynrGy>that's my hunch anyway
15:56<SynrGy>maybe your third-party stuff
15:57-!-mode/#debian [+l 657] by debhelper
15:57<fr33domlover>or maybe just some debian 7 app
15:57<SynrGy>comb your logs for errors
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16:44<martinez>debian sucks, windows vista rulez!
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16:46<ompaul>martinez: but windows is so hard to install
16:46<oldlaptop>martinez: get some more practice, you can't troll like that
16:46<oldlaptop>too obvious
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16:51<martinez>:)
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17:52<canaima>hola
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18:48<martinez>debian sucks!
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19:00<jalcine>^ someone's bored
19:01<ncl>aw, we were having a great time ignoring its existance
19:01<viccuad>or maybe got caught by the nvidia testing issue of this week
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19:17<vincent_c>the nvidia issue is fixed as of a hour ago
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20:07<genius>hi
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20:10<dpkg>hello, centrx
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20:50<one>Hi
20:50<one>my computer dont know my printer
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20:50<somiaj>have you installed CUPS and then tried to configure it via the webbase config tools?
20:51<one>i know but my computer khow my printer but not print
20:51<one>show printing but not printing
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20:52<one>???
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20:55<one>what address cups?
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20:55<somiaj>one: localhost:631
20:56<one>thanks
21:00<one>i know but my computer khow my printer but not print
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21:00<one>show printing but not printing
21:00<one>now what do i do?
21:01<one>??
21:01<one>please answer
21:01<one>please answer
21:02<one>one: localhost:631
21:02<one>please answer
21:02<fantasma1>do you have the correct hardware driver for your printer model?
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21:03<one>yes
21:04<fantasma1>ok
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21:04<fantasma1>what about a test page...?
21:04<one>hp laserjet 1018
21:04<fantasma1>...on wheezy, right?
21:05<one>debian 7.5
21:05<one>is it wheezy ?yes
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21:05<fantasma1>but another question: did you install your driver properly?. (yeah, all 7.x versions are wheezy ;) )
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21:06<one>for windows not GNU/Linux
21:07<fantasma1>one moment please: you want to use the windows-driver on linux?
21:07<one>no
21:08<one>i want my computer khow my printer
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21:08<somiaj>I think he is saying it works just fine in windows, so most likely it is a configureation issue with CUPS
21:08<one>Can u help me??
21:08<fantasma1>yeah, seems so -> somiaj
21:09<one>i worked by cups not worked
21:09<fantasma1>http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=1814094 *look*
21:14<one>look this
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