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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-07-30

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02:36<lasagn4>hi
02:36<lasagn4>i keep on trying to use the internet and it says "connectL Network is unreachable"
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02:44<jm_>lasagn4: you'll want to provide a lot more details if you want help
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02:49<lasagn4>a simple reboot fixed it, on my routing table now is only eth0 instead of loopback or whatever else was there
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03:30<cavalier_work>Hello, I have a headless DNS server. On boot it starts dnsmasq before the network interface are found. dnsmasq fails as there are no network interfaces
03:31<cavalier_work>Do you know a way to make dnsmasq start after the network interfaces are found?
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03:33<jm_>why does it start so early then?
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03:35<weasel>(and why use dnsmasq)
03:35<weasel>does replacing allow-hotplug with auto in your network/interfaces "fix" things?
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03:37<cavalier_work>jm_, good question, I wouldn't know why. last boot, ssh failed to start to (couldn't find it in the logs yet)
03:37<cavalier_work>ntp start after the network
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03:38<jm_>cavalier_work: try enabling bootlog and see if there are any messages, and you're using wheezy with default init system, right?
03:38<cavalier_work>weasel, they are set to allow-hotplug
03:38<jm_>yeah the suggesion is to change it to "auto" instead
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03:39<cavalier_work>just confirming that it wasn't set to auto
03:39<cavalier_work>sysvinit, indeed
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03:49<cavalier_work>jm_ weasel, it looks like setting it to auto solved it
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03:59<cavalier>with some more testing, it still works. thank you for your help
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04:01<mahdi>hi everyone
04:01<mahdi>haaaloooo
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04:27<zuse>does anybody know if iotop (or similar) can display I/O rates per filesystem?
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04:30<jm_>zuse: you can find that in /proc/diskstat AFAIK
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04:32<zuse>nice
04:32<zuse>thanks
04:33<jm_>no problem
04:33<zuse>entry 12 is I/O rate, probably the thing I wanted!
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05:46<siewca>Siemano jest tu ktos kto sie bardzo dobrze zna na debianie?
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05:47<siewca>Jest tu ktos z polski bo pilnie pomocy potrzebuje
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05:52<dpkg>Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>.
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09:23<cimmm>Getting Bad PBR after install+reboot of 7.6.0amd64 CD1 via UFD. Dell Dimension 4700, all disks wiped, new part's all set to Linux/Ext4 where applicable. sdb1 ( / ) flagged bootable, sdb[5-9] /boot, swap, /usr, /var, /home. LVM consists of sda+sdc+sdd+sde pointed to /srv, sw RAID1 of sdf+sdg pointed to /srv/backup. Side note: sda+sdb connected to onboard SATA2, sdc is onboard IDE, sdf+sdg connected to PCIe-x1 SATA3 card, sdd+sde on PCI EIDE card.
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09:40<xormor>where do I see the CPU temperature in Debian 7.6 stable "wheezy"?
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09:44<Brigo>xormor, you have to install sensors package, if you have not still stalled it
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09:46<xormor>Brigo, I installed the "lm-sensors" package, there is no pure "sensors" package in my repos.
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09:51<xormor>Brigo, temp1: +73.0°C (crit = +130.0°C)
09:51<xormor>Brigo, that is a Virtual device.
09:51<xormor>Brigo, how do I see the cpu temp?
09:53<xormor>PCI temperature k10temp-pci-00c3: temp1: +72.5°C (high = +70.0°C)
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09:53<xormor>radeon pci-0200 PCI adapter: "temp1: +78.0°C"
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09:54<cimmm>Think I found the issue in partition tables: How do I reduce/remove volume group with disconnected physical volumes?
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10:08<maroon__>I need help to install lighttpd webserver
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10:09<maroon__>as i had apache2 installed, I could start the lighttpd server, but as I uninstalled apache2 the lighttpd server failes on start
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10:10<babilen>Fails how exactly? (→ http://paste.debian.net or http://refheap.com )
10:12<maroon__>babilen, http://paste.debian.net/112676/
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10:12<maroon__>now i see something :)
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10:12<babilen>Was it the "No such file or directory" that gave it away?
10:13<maroon__>http://paste.debian.net/112678/
10:14<maroon__>sorry I am not well in paste bin :))
10:14<maroon__>I posted twice the same :)
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10:17<maroon__>babilen, Yes I saw it
10:17<babilen>yeah, that doesn't really add much ;)
10:17<maroon__>I copied the modules.conf allready over
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10:17<babilen>Your /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf also appears to be empty
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10:20<maroon__>babilen, no it is not
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10:21<maroon__>Are you willing to log ito my system, eventually to get lighttpd running?
10:22<babilen>No
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10:22<maroon__>To sad
10:22<babilen>(nor should you ever offer to do so)
10:22<babilen>So, you've copied your modules.conf didn't you? Which error do you get now?
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10:23<maroon__>The modules.conf is to be found under /etc/lighttpd/modules.conf right now, as welll as the lighttpd.conf
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10:25<maroon__>yes, I copied it out of the docs/config folder of a source folder I unpacked on my system
10:26<maroon__>babilen, http://paste.debian.net/112680/ thats the lighttpd.conf
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10:27<babilen>So, the error message should have changed (there should, at least, be no error regarding modules.conf anymore) -- What do you get now?
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10:28<maroon__>The modules configuration files are under /etc/lighttpd/conf-available, which was not like that under the earlier gentoo installation where I had the lighttpd with the pasted configuration file running babilen
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10:29<babilen>Yes, Debian and Gentoo differ
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10:30<babilen>So you copied /etc/lighttpd from Gentoo to a Debian box? Which error do you get *now* that you've changed the modules.conf ?
10:30<maroon__>still the same
10:31<babilen>Could you show me?
10:31<maroon__>maybe i have to change the permissions or something like that
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10:31<babilen>It is also not really customary to serve content from /home
10:32<maroon__>When I want to t
10:32<maroon__>reinstall the system, I never format the home folder, so my projects are never lost
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10:32<maroon__>Its just my development machine
10:33<babilen>Maybe you would want to start with Debian's /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf and make use of conf-available and conf-enabled to enable modules
10:34<maroon__>thats true, I wanted it raelier but I tried to delete lighttpd to get the old (new) lighttpd.conf back, after I just copied mine over, but after reinstall there was no lighttpd.conf in the /etc/lighttpd folder
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10:35<babilen>That is you can probably delete everything prior to line 66 from that configuration and read /etc/lighttpd/conf-available/README and pay attention to the /usr/sbin/lighty-enable-mod and /usr/sbin/lighty-disable-mod scripts
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10:35<babilen>dpkg: tell maroon__ about confnew
10:35<babilen>dpkg: tell maroon__ about confold
10:35<babilen>dpkg: tell maroon__ about confmiss
10:36<babilen>Use the confmiss procedure if you've deleted configuration file (The package management system assumed that you've deleted them on purpose)
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10:39<maroon__>http://paste.debian.net/112680/
10:39<maroon__>no dont check pastebin
10:40<maroon__>Failed to start Lighttpd. Maybe another webserver is already listening on port 80?
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10:46<Cpuroast>is there any reason
10:46<Cpuroast>http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/l/linux/linux_3.2.60-1+deb7u3_changelog
10:46<Cpuroast>is missing
10:46<Cpuroast>?
10:46<Cpuroast>I wanted to see what had changed
10:46<Cpuroast>from u1
10:46<themill>Cpuroast: changelogs for security updates never make it to metadata; apt-listchanges or the DSA is your friend
10:46<Cpuroast>ah
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10:58<maroon__>babilen, at the moment I am compiling lighttpd from source
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11:01<babilen>Why?
11:01<babilen>maroon__: Why on earth would you do that?
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11:01<maroon__>I dont know, I couldnt reinstall the configuration files
11:02<babilen>...
11:02<maroon__>But the src compilation was not setting up a new /etc/lighttpd/ folder
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11:02<babilen>maroon__: And you ran "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall lighttpd" ? (after removing /etc/lighttpd) ?
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11:03<babilen>Or purge that package and reinstall it
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11:06<maroon__>babilen, now i did it:)
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11:07<babilen>maroon__: I told you about that earlier for a reason you know ;)
11:07<maroon__>babilen, it works!
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11:08<shawn>question, i like to use --prefix=$HOME/.local to configure applications which I compile from source. can anyone explain why this sometimes does not work?
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11:12<maroon__>babilen, thank you very much.
11:13<maroon__>Now I port my old config into the new style
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11:18<uso>shawn: the application has to support --prefix in its build scripts, it if does not support it the switch does not work
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11:18<shawn>uso: whereas DESTDIR should work every time, correct? so a good way of doing things would be to pass DESTDIR through checkinstall ?
11:19<shawn>er..
11:19<shawn>bye uso
11:19<shawn>:D
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11:21<shawn>uso: whereas DESTDIR should work every time, correct? so a good way of doing things would be to pass DESTDIR through checkinstall ? if i use DESTDIR do i basically need a debootstrap chroot or can i populate the tree only with applications i compile and still expect them to work?
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11:22<shawn>sorry i'm trying to explain myself as carefully as possible :D 'ts hard
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11:24<uso>shawn: an application has to support relocation, no matter how you want to do it, most application do this, but when an application does not support relocation at all your best choice to use it without messing with your basic system is to install it in a container
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11:25<uso>s/basic system/base system/
11:26<shawn>ty uso
11:26<shawn>that was an excellent explanation
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11:27<uso>shawn: you're welcome, I'm glad that long sentence was understandable :)
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11:28<shawn>i'm looking into GNU Stow ..
11:28<shawn>using that in combination with checkinstall might be the cleanest way
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11:32<shawn>hmm seems like with stow checkinstall is redundant
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11:39<maroon__>babilen, this is now my new lighttpd.conf http://paste.debian.net/112709/
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11:39<maroon__>it does just simply show the apache start page under nlocalhost
11:40<maroon__>in the hosts file I typed allready 127.0.0.1 mohjak and so forth but nothing comes up, page not found is stated
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11:42<maroon__>babilen, when I ping ajdila, it speaks from 127.0.0.1 and so forht, so the hosts is correct
11:42<maroon__>ceweasel is unable to connect
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11:47<retrospectacus>maroon__: does "netstat -plnt|grep :80" indicate that apache, or lighttpd, is serving ?
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11:49<maroon__>nothing comes out
11:49<retrospectacus>then nothing is serving port 80
11:50<retrospectacus>is your webserver running?
11:51<maroon__>I started /etc/init.d/lighttpd
11:52<retrospectacus>is your webserver running?
11:52<maroon__>top says nothing about a webserver running
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11:53<retrospectacus>"ps faux" is a better way to check, but I guess you need to start it, or it started and failed; check the logs
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11:57<maroon__>server.pid-file = "/var/run/lighttpd.pid"
11:57<maroon__>says that the pid file has to be found when its started?
11:58<retrospectacus>the server should put its PID there when it starts
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12:05<maroon__>retrospectacus, lighttpd says it starts but no pid file is generated
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12:06<retrospectacus>anything in the logs?
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12:07<maroon__>retrospectacus, when I stop the uninstalled apache2 file in /etc/init.d and as well the lighttpd still the localhost earlier apache2 website from the localhost comes up in iceweasel
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12:08<maroon__>No nothing
12:08<maroon__>in the logs
12:08<retrospectacus>"stop the uninstalled file" ?
12:09<maroon__>I did allready
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12:09<maroon__>apache2 pid is not found
12:10<retrospectacus>those words don't make any sense, is what I was getting at
12:10<maroon__>yes, at the moment
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12:10<retrospectacus>those either
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12:11<retrospectacus>use netstat instead of iceweasel to check if anything/what is listening to port 80
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12:51<maroon>retrospectacus, now I have everything runing but the fast cgi module
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12:52<maroon>retrospectacus, I copied over the 15_fastcgi-php5 file into the conf-enabled folder and made modifications to it, but it doesnt parse php or better siad html files with php code in it
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12:53<maroon>I use just simply .html files instead of .php for displaying php code
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12:57<maroon>retrospectacus, the php socket is loaded, php should run fine, but my domains dont show the page
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12:58<babilen>maroon: You should make symlinks from conf-enabled to the actual one in conf-available (or just use the tools I pointed out earlier)
12:58<maroon>thats true
12:58<babilen>And you might need some additional configuration for .html PHP (why not .php as usual?)
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12:58<maroon>thats right
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13:10<maroon>babilen, how was the pastebin url
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13:14<babilen>maroon: http://paste.debian.net, http://refheap.com come to mind
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13:25<maroon>I got it
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16:00<loafers>what happened to jessie libav?
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16:00<Nemoder>https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/07/msg01010.html
16:01<loafers>ah ic
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16:02<elichai2_>hey, Iceweasel and firefox have the same versions code? (i can compare which more updated by version?)
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16:06<mtn>elichai2_: yes, they are the same
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16:07<elichai2_>mtn, thanks
16:08<mtn>elichai2_: have you ever looked under help in iceweasel? notice it says firefox/mozilla and the version number.
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16:10<elichai2_>mtn, no it's not lol, mines says "30.0 \n Iceweasel is designd etc."
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17:09<TheSwamP>can some1 tell me how to make the text bigger in my xchat irc window?
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17:15<retrospectacus>TheSwamP: #xchat on irc.freenode.net
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17:19<TheSwamP>can some1 tell me how to make the text bigger in my xchat irc window???? plzzz
17:19<TheSwamP>is there even any1 there??? hello???????????????
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17:19<mtn>TheSwamP: isn't there a font setting in the preferences or settings area?
17:19<TheSwamP>if there is i cant see
17:20<TheSwamP>been over it 2 times now
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17:20<retrospectacus>TheSwamP: I told you where to find people who would know that
17:21<TheSwamP>o ya sorry
17:21<TheSwamP>the txt is so small its just ....
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17:46<bodhi>hi
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17:58<salazarj>hola
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18:48*Kromaz wave hello
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18:49<retrospectacus>\o Kromaz
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18:49<Kromaz>just did my first install of Debian & must say the best Ive seen!
18:50<retrospectacus>I'll go ahead and agree with that
18:51<Kromaz>rock solid =)
18:52<retrospectacus>https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian is a great read for those getting started
18:52<Kromaz>thanks retrospectacus, will check it out
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18:56<Kromaz>is it always this quite in the channel?
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19:12<retrospectacus>Kromaz: not always. But off-topic conversation is forbidden. Support only. For offtopic go to #debian-offtopic
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19:15<Kromaz>thanks retrospectacus will switch channels
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19:39<MrPigBearMan>Is anyone good with systemd here ?
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19:40<retrospectacus>MrPigBearMan: yes, also in #debian-next if you're using testing
19:40<MrPigBearMan>myservice and script http://pastebin.com/GAtcXXtG on start up I get No mouse or anything else and other services are not started like ssh ect
19:40<MrPigBearMan>thanks retrospectacus
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19:42<Dinosaurio>i copied debian and am selling it with another unregistered name. android xD
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19:45<Dinosaurio>it is true.
19:46*retrospectacus checks the GPL.... yep that's allowed
19:46<Dinosaurio>:(
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19:50<ncl>at least he used an apropos name
19:53<AlexLikeRock>hola
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19:55<william1>Where are the screensaver settings in Gnome?
19:57<somiaj>william1: have you tried looking around in the control config, figured it would be like screen/display setttings
19:57<william1>settings shows me a few things and dconf editor
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19:58<somiaj>there should be some sort of gnome settings tool. I don't use gnome so I wouldn't know where to look, what version of debian are you running let me boot up my vm
19:58<william1>not sure how to get to control config. Typoing control just brings up jack
19:58<william1>Debian Jessie
19:59<william1>I switched back to gnome because the latest upgrade killed my KDE
19:59<somiaj>it should be in the menu somewhere, and this is debian stable support, you will want #debian-next. I don't have any jessie vms to test but I can see where wheezy puts it
19:59<somiaj>its under the menu somewhere that gnome gives you
19:59<william1>tough to watch netflix with the screen going blank every 3 minutes :)
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20:00<somiaj>william1: oh that is the default xblanking, (not screen saver) run 'xset -dpms s off' from a terminal
20:00<william1>hmm I don't even see a menu I can only type stuff in
20:00<william1>ok will try
20:00<somiaj>yea I don't know gnome shell that well
20:01<william1>ok no error with it. Is that permanent?
20:01<hmet>(wheezy) mod php for apache2, they say that is compiled with soap extensions (https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libapache2-mod-php5), but I cannot find such soap.so in the filesystem.
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20:02<hmet>so std soap php extensions don't work
20:03<william1>hmet: when compiled with it, would it have a .so file?
20:03<hmet>because they used --enable-soap=shared
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20:03<hmet>so there is no built-in library
20:03<somiaj>I don't nkow this paticular libary, but I did find this with apt-file, libcsoap1: /usr/lib/libcsoap.so.1
20:03<william1>and it doesn't show it in phpinfo() as well?
20:04<hmet>correct
20:04<hmet>phpinfo() says that --enable-soap=shared was used but there is no soap info nor soap.so
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20:05<retrospectacus>my phpinfo() does show soap stuff
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20:05<somiaj>are you sure that is the file and it isn't using libcoap1 but actually looks like libgsoap4 libgsoap5, so might be using those soap libaraies and not the offical soap one you are looking for
20:05<somiaj>my guess is that is what is going on
20:06<william1>might you have a custom php.ini that is changing it?
20:06<william1>like trying to add soap again which removes it?
20:06<retrospectacus>I don't think so. I have libapache2-mod-php5 5.4.4-14+deb7u12 from wheezy/updates
20:07<hmet>that package should provide soap.so or something like that
20:08<somiaj>no it shouldn't, debian would put the soap libary into another package and I gave you multiple soap alternative libaries
20:08<retrospectacus>it doesn't. (checked with "dpkg -L libapache2-mod-php5")
20:09<somiaj>I bet looking at the package dependencies will tell you what soap libary it is dependent on
20:10<hmet>there are some alternative soap packages like nusoap and php-soap, but there is not php5-soap as expected.
20:11<retrospectacus>I got nothing from dpkg -l |grep soap
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20:12<retrospectacus>hmet: how are you deciding that your php does not have soap support?
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20:13<hmet>because there is no soap stuff in phpinfo()
20:13<hmet>and I cannot find a .so to reference in any php.ini.
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20:13<somiaj>have you isntalled teh php-soap package? That wsa the first thign I found
20:14<hmet>yes, but it's a different library
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20:16<themill>The package description of the libapache2-mod-php5 package does say that the soap extension is built in.
20:17<retrospectacus>I don't have any soap named package, nor .so file but "soap" is a section in phpinfo()
20:17<hmet>yes, that because I kindly ask if anyone is running a wheezy server with soap enabled.
20:17<themill>yes, that's consistent with it being built in.
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20:18<retrospectacus>hmet: are you sure it's not there? Ctrl-f soap ?
20:18<hmet>yes, absolutely
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20:18<hmet>if you have it I will try a new server in a VM to recheck it
20:19<bluegoon>When I leave my PC, and come back, I have a black screen, when I move my mouse etc, nothing happens.. using Ubuntu.
20:19<retrospectacus>!ubuntuirc bluegoon
20:19<dpkg>bluegoon: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
20:19<bluegoon>Thanks
20:19<hmet>(the battle is with a isp-config custom vps)
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20:36<hmet>you are right! I found the problem.
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20:40<hmet>my ISP told me that they installed Wheezy. But I found a 2.6.32 kernel. This cannot be a out-of-the-box Wheezy installation. I have installed apache+php in my desktop and soap is working (built-in).
20:40<hmet>thank you very much.
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20:46<somiaj>could it be a wheezy vm on top of an older squeeze or centos host, that would explain the 2.6.32 kernel
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20:46<somiaj>but anyways, look at apt-cache policy (that will tell you what sort of sources you have), cat /etc/debian_version can also help but be misleading, ther is also lsb_release
20:47<hmet>somiaj yes
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20:47<hmet>who knows what they did
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20:48<hmet>:) many thanks. I'm a red hat man but I'm starting to find debian very solid.
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21:39<a>xubuntu is debian based?
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22:04<Alstarallen6>hey
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22:07<Alstarallen6>hey
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22:11<Alstarallen6>does anyone talk here
22:11<themill>no
22:11<Alstarallen6>why not
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22:13<oldlaptop>because we can't
22:13<methos>:)
22:14<Alstarallen6>you can type
22:14<Alstarallen6>so type
22:14<oldlaptop>but what would we type about?
22:14<themill>Alstarallen6: this isn't a social channel. Perhaps you're looking for #moocows
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22:15<Alstarallen6>moocows?
22:15<oldlaptop>more to the point: what are you doing here?
22:15<Alstarallen6>im bored
22:15<oldlaptop>Do you need Debian support?
22:16<Alstarallen6>all these chats are inactive
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22:16<oldlaptop>good, that means not many people are having trouble with debian
22:16<Alstarallen6>or have lives3
22:16<oldlaptop>please go elsewhere
22:17<oldlaptop>unless or until you have something on-topic to say
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22:29<william1>xset -dpms s off didn't keep the screen from going blank after just a few minutes of no activity.
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22:32<william1>In "tweaks" the only screen related item is the locked.jpg setting.
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22:35<william1>aH i think I've found it in dconf editor
22:35<william1>org.gnome.desktop.screensaver
22:36<william1>actually session which is currently 0 one of the settings in screen saver was deprecated and referenced this.
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23:23<zorrot>is this an appropriate place for a unetbootin question ?
23:24<dvs>zorrot: yeah, don't use it.
23:24<zorrot>is there another way to install from thumb?
23:25<dvs>win32diskimager
23:25<zorrot>no win32 host.
23:25<dvs>then what kind of host?
23:25<zorrot>kde/debian and macos.
23:25<dvs>just cp it.
23:25<zorrot>cp which ?
23:26<dvs>https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en
23:27<zorrot>oh, well, yeah that seems like it'd do it. danke sir. :-)
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