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00:13<GinoMan>Hey, I installed debian, but the system wouldn't install the bootloader properly because it's EFI, so I did it manually from a terminal by chrooting into the system from the disk.... why won't my /etc/profile.d/* files source on new gui shells?
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00:15<Guest5043>anyone here?
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00:16<Guest5043>who can answer me?
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00:17<Nemoder>!efi
00:17<dpkg>Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" supports installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. See also <errata>. http://www.uefi.org/
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00:18<Guest5043>where are you from?Nemoder?
00:19<Nemoder>!chat
00:19<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or #defocus on irc.freenode.net.
00:22<GinoMan>Nemoder: I know what EFI is. I'm not using secure boot
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00:23<Nemoder>GinoMan: I was curious if it was marked as supported in wheezy
00:23<GinoMan>oh
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00:24<GinoMan>anyways, any idea why my gui shells won't source /etc/profile.d/*
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00:47<jmcnaught>GinoMan: see the section "INVOCATION" in the bash man page to read about which files are sourced depending on how bash is launched
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01:08<honeydrive>gka
01:08<honeydrive>hul...
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02:18<albatross>hi
02:18<albatross>is there any one
02:19<zarchne>clearly not.
02:19<albatross>Need help on some info on monitoring tools like
02:19<albatross>top and vmsatat etc on linux
02:19<albatross>is there any guide helps me to better understand
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02:20<bhuddah>albatross: have you read the man pages?
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02:20<albatross>bhuddah: yes but nothing I could get
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02:20<albatross>my issue is one of my server in the server farms getting rebooted very oftenly
02:21<albatross>tried to check with the hardware and power supply
02:21<albatross>everything seems to fine ....
02:21<albatross>could not able to track the root cause
02:21<zarchne>what about /var/log/kern.log?
02:22<zarchne>and other logs in /var/log.
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02:22<albatross>everything will be routed to /var/log/messages
02:22<albatross>I could get nothing from messages logs
02:25<zarchne>What management software is this?
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02:27<jm_>try to capture kernel console
02:27<zarchne>albatross: also wondering what you have in /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory?
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02:29<zarchne>Trying to think what would cause random reboots that wouldn't be logged. Like you said, power supply. Overheating. Watchdog?
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02:37<soporte>HOLA
02:38<soporte>k ases
02:38<soporte>k ondas
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03:36<clamorti>hi
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03:39<jm_>!ask
03:39<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
03:40<tools>Freaking noob question, how do I decomprmize a tar.gz file on debian - I tried tar xzvf kodo.tar.gz but get x is invalid argument
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03:40<tools>on debian 7
03:42<jm_>tar xvf shall do the job
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03:43<tools>jm_: stil gets x is invalid argument da f. hmm
03:43<jm_>tools: please put all of it on pastebin
03:44<zarchne>tools: "which tar" ? "tar --version" ?
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03:44<tools>1.26
03:44<zarchne>"tar xvzf kodo.tar.gz" should work
03:44<jm_>which is a command
03:45<Apollo>tools: please pastebin your exact command and its output
03:45<Apollo>you can use paste.debian.net
03:45<themill>Perhaps you could pastebin the command and full output
03:45<jm_>:)
03:45<Apollo>Oh my yes, that seems like a solid plan
03:46<tools>http://pastebin.com/pE8QrJkD
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03:48<clamorti>I want to help debian community, how can I begin?
03:48<tools>The command works on RHEL, OpenSUSE, Debian6 and Fedora20
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03:49<jm_>so try 'which tar' then
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03:49<tools>clamorti: https://www.debian.org/devel/join/
03:49<tools>jm_: bin/tar
03:49<themill>dpkg: tell clamorti about how-can-i-help
03:50<Apollo>tools: is that /bin/tar or bin/tar >
03:50<clamorti>ok thanks
03:50<tools>Apollo: /bin/tar sorry
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03:51<tools>I am starting to think I should reinstall my Debian 7 machine
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03:54<themill>there's nothing in tar's source code that would actually make that output
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03:55<jm_>tools: and 'type tar'?
03:55<tools>tar is hashed (/bin/tar)
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03:56<tools>themill: then wtf is happening
03:57<Apollo>have you tried tar --help?
03:58<Apollo>looks like something mucked with your tar binary
03:58<zarchne>tools: grasping at straws: "locale"? "file kodo.tar.gz"?
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03:58<tools>Apollo: eeh blank
03:58<themill>"file /bin/tar; md5sum /bin/tar" might be good too.
03:58<tools>(I mean the output is blank )
03:58<Apollo>yeaaaah
03:58<Apollo>that's not your tar binary then
03:59<zarchne>ckrootkit ...
04:00<tools>Fuck it I am going for a clean install, I've had nothing but problems with this installation
04:02<tools>But thanks all for the help
04:02<clamorti>anyone work on computional physic here?
04:03<zarchne>clamorti: in my dreams. What's the question?
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04:04<clamorti>I have not question, I just try to find project of computional physic to improve my level in this matter
04:04*themill keeps reading that as "psychic"
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04:05<zarchne>computational physics, yeah. Finding a strange attractor.
04:06<clamorti>i need leave, goodbye, I will come back later *smile*
04:07<zarchne>Cheers.
04:07<clamorti>if anyone is interest by computional physic project, i do not know what by contact me at tartenpion92AThotmail.fr
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05:01<cendora>???
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05:59<mehdi_>can sb give me the repo of debian testing?
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05:59<jm_>what?
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06:07<CyberBob>i'm on wheezy. if i have the correct graphics driver installed (intel i830 in my case) should it show 1024x768 instead of only 640x480 in xfce?
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06:08<jm_>it should use the resolution your monitor supports
06:08<CyberBob>it can use 1024x768 i know that for sure
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06:09<jm_>try checking x logfile
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06:11<CyberBob>thing is since 640 works just fine and is default i don't think i'll find any errors
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06:14<jm_>it should at least indicate why that resolution is being used
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06:37<CyberBob>i think it's because x isn't using the right driver, is there a way to explicity tell it to use intel driver?
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06:39<jm_>put your x logfile on pastebin and yes there is
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06:46<CyberBob>jm_ which is the most recent higher numbered or lower numbered
06:46<jm_>CyberBob: number of what?
06:48<CyberBob>where is the log located and i remember the files are numbered
06:48<jm_>/var/log/Xorg.0.log
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06:53<CyberBob>jm_ http://paste.debian.net/114123/
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06:56<jm_>CyberBob: it's using vesa driver, that's why you get such a low resolution - it tries intel driver first but it apparently can't use it - which exactl graphics is it?
06:56<CyberBob>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82830M/MG Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
06:56<CyberBob>i830
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06:56<CyberBob>(m)
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06:57<jm_>i830m is mentioned as being supported by the intel driver, are kernel modules loaded?
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06:58<MO_Handes>after installing gnome-shell-extension "netspeed" it does not show in gnome-tweak-tool extensions for me to enable it. what should I do?
07:01<CyberBob>jm_ could you give me the modprobe command to insert intel and apply the insertion?
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07:02<jm_>CyberBob: hmm not really - I never used intel graphics, but run lsmod and look for i* modules
07:03<jm_>if you meant for X, it already tries to use it but it apparently fails (andi t doesn't tell us why)
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07:08<mehdi_>how can i change my gnome look? such as icons and themes?
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07:14<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>Copyright © 2014 Offensive Security Ltd. All rights reserved
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07:14-!-Defcon_102KALI_LINUX was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>all1exploit
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07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>ap-unlock
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>armitage
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>automater
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>autosploit
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>backdoor-factory
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>bbqsql
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>bingoo
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>basichttp
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>blackhat ddos
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>bluedriving
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>bluepot
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>brute-android
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07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>brute-ftp
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>brute-ftpbf
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>brute-gmail
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>brute-hash
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>brute-http
07:15<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>brute-it
07:15-!-mode/#debian [+q Defcon_102KALI_LINUX!*@*] by jm_
07:16<@jm_>please stop with this
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07:16-!-mode/#debian [-q Defcon_102KALI_LINUX!*@*] by jm_
07:16-!-mode/#debian [-o jm_] by jm_
07:17<Apollo>did someone just download a script riddled linux distro or what
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07:37<CyberBob>is "intel" an x module or a kernel module?
07:37<jm_>in the log it's X driver -- man intel
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07:53<SynrG>CyberBob: we covered this yesterday. You need the backports kernel
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07:54<SynrG>!tell CyberBob about wheezy-backports
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07:54<SynrG>!tell CyberBob about bpo kernel
07:55<CyberBob>i haven't the first clue about changing kernels :/
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07:55<CyberBob>thought i'd see and google for anyone else that's had this problem with wheezy
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07:56<CyberBob>and latitude c400
07:56<SynrG>Follow the factoids dpkg bot sent
07:56<SynrG>I already did that research for you
07:57<SynrG>That you continue to ignore my recommendation is distressing
07:57<SynrG>Why did i bother spending the time?
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07:58<SynrG>And then you waste more helpers' time here ...
07:59<jm_>it looks like this is a repeating pattern with CyberBob, I also got the same feeling immediately (asking for help and then trying to do things not mentioned)
07:59<SynrG>I dug up a relevant Ubuntu bug that shows his kernel doesn't work with modeset
08:00<SynrG>3.2 doesn't, that is
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08:00<SynrG>And the X driver requires modeset
08:00<CyberBob>i'm following the advice SynrG just sent me i didn't see the pm
08:01<SynrG>His current workaround for black screen is nomodeset which dumps him into vesa driver in X
08:01<SynrG>Getting off bus. Walking. Later.
08:01<jm_>ahh I didn't even know that is set, bummer
08:01<SynrG>And good luck
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08:01<CyberBob>sorry for 'wasting your time' but it did not go unappreciated
08:02<jm_>and I was wondering why intel driver fails to load
08:02<SynrG>OK. Mistakes happen
08:02<SynrG>Bye
08:02<CyberBob>i have been googling this for the past 24hrs
08:02<CyberBob>later SynrG tyvm again
08:02<jm_>but why do that if you were told what the solution is?
08:02<CyberBob>same to you jm_
08:02<jm_>no worries
08:03<CyberBob>because i didn't understand exactly what he meant by changing the kernel and whether it needed to be up or down
08:03<CyberBob>up i guess
08:04<CyberBob>i was interpreting wheezy-backports wrong
08:04<jm_>right, it's better if you ask for exact instructions how to do that then
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08:05<CyberBob>jm_ so the intel driver won't run at all with nomodeset?
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08:05<jm_>CyberBob: i think current versions don't, in the past that was the only way
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08:06<CyberBob>why can't i hold all this linux
08:07<CyberBob>sorry i'm such a newb
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08:53<boris__>hi there! anyone knows how to add shoutcast streams in radio tray?
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08:55<CyberBob>SynrG the backported kernel worked fine once i figured out i needed to use i915.modeset=0 in the kernel line. you were right, i just should have asked if i didn't know, but tyvm for doing the hard part for me
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08:57<towo`>CyberBob, with i915.modeset=0 x can't use the intel-ddx driver
08:57<towo`>intel depends on KMS
08:58<CyberBob>oops i meant =1
08:58<CyberBob>ive been playin with so many different settings it's screwing with my head
08:58<towo`> i915.modeset=1 sould not be nessesary since it is default
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09:00<CyberBob>http://xkcd.com/963/
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09:02<CyberBob>towo` without it a bit of the boot text ends up becoming illegible
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09:04<CyberBob>!change hostname
09:04<dpkg>that doesn't look right
09:04<CyberBob>!hostname
09:04<dpkg>Use «hostname foo» to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot (create /etc/hostname if it does not exist) and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set up local translations for a FQDN. See also 'man 1 hostname', or ask me about <mailname>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname
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14:00<matteo>Ciao :)
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14:00<matteo>!list
14:00<dpkg>matteo: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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14:19<knoppix__>hello debian brothers!
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14:19<knoppix__>haha
14:19<picstar>Hola?
14:19<knoppix__>i wanna start using debian
14:19<knoppix__>hola!
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14:19<picstar>Cual es el canal de debian en español??
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14:19<Guest5104>i downloaded an iso image and burned it into a dvd
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14:20<Guest5104>but it is in russian!!!!
14:20<Guest5104>wtf!?!?
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14:20<Guest5104>no idea picstar
14:20<Maulkin>!es
14:20<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
14:20<Guest5104>sabes de donde puedo sacar alguna imagen iso de debian en espaniol o ingles>?
14:20<picstar>Es que el otro día hablé con alguein de ahí
14:21<Guest5104>ahi el sistema me sugirio el canal en espaniol
14:21<Guest5104>es #debian-es
14:21<picstar>I need to access spanish channel of debian, thanks
14:21<Guest5104>yo tmb voy a entrar ahi a ver que onda
14:21<picstar>Gwest1504
14:21<Maulkin>picstar: /join #debian-es
14:21<retrospectacus>http://www.debian.org/CD
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14:21<picstar>Gracias
14:21<Maulkin>De nada
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14:22<picstar>Gwest1504, es muy fácil encontrar en google alguna imagen de debian
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14:22<Guest5104>did it happen the same to someone ?
14:22<Guest5104>sisi
14:22<Guest5104>ya voy descargando varias
14:22<Guest5104>pero siempre estan en ruso!
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14:22<Maulkin>Please, English only in here
14:22<Guest5104>sera que el grueso de gente que lo desarrolla es de rusia?
14:22<Guest5104>sorry
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14:23<la>hola?
14:23<sabbu>la
14:23<picstar>You must search in the official site
14:23<Guest5104>i downloaded lots of debian iso images
14:23<Aguante>Holiwi
14:23<Maulkin>!es
14:23<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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14:23<sabbu>hola
14:23<Maulkin>!es-social
14:23<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
14:23<Guest5104>but it is always in russian!
14:23<picstar>One moment
14:23<Aguante>jabriel puto
14:23<la>leandro se la come
14:23<Aguante>como tu mama
14:23<sabbu>facebook
14:23<Guest5104>jajaja
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14:23<la>chau
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14:23<sabbu>what chau
14:24<retrospectacus>!es-social
14:24<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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14:24<Maulkin>retrospectacus: Excellent, you're here. /me -> pub in that case
14:25<picstar>Guest1514, https://www.debian.org/distrib/index.es.html
14:25<Guest5104>is it possible to change os language?
14:25<picstar>Guest1514
14:26<Guest5104>where is the option to do that in debian?
14:26<Guest5104>what>
14:26<Guest5104>?
14:26<retrospectacus>Maulkin: but I can't kick... :(
14:26<Guest5104>que te pica picstar?
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14:27<picstar>https://www.debian.org/distrib/index.es.html
14:27<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell Guest5104 about locales
14:27<picstar>A mi no me pica nada
14:27<Guest5104>jajaja
14:27<picstar>Y a ti?
14:27<picstar>Ahí tienes debian en español
14:27<picstar>No es tan complicado
14:27<retrospectacus>picstar, Guest5104: English only.
14:28<picstar>Your friend Google,
14:28<Guest5104>ok.thanks
14:28<picstar>helps you, :D
14:28<Maulkin>retrospectacus: Well, call ops if you need help :)
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14:28<picstar>Bye
14:28<retrospectacus>you choose Language at the first step of the installer.
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14:28<Guest5104>bye
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14:29<Guest5104>yes i know but i was trying the live system
14:29<Guest5104>and it didnt let me choose the language
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14:29<Guest5104>it just started in russian
14:30<retrospectacus>no idea about Live - try #debian-live
14:30<Guest5104>ok thanks
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14:37<ckosloff>I just subscribed to a mailing list but I don't know how to get a digest, and yes I have read the basics doc
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14:55<sakax>ckosloff: it's not linkedin :)
14:56<sakax>either you subscribe to a mailing list or you do not subscribe
14:57<sakax>there is debian-user and debian-devel which are read-only digestified mailing lists
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16:24<zartoosh>HI my system's hard disk is GPT partitioned. I need a tool to label the disk partitions. I used to use e2label before but it seems e2label does not work with GPT partition disks? thx
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16:27<musca>zartoosh: a label is a property of the filesystem, not of the partition.
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16:37<zartoosh>musca, Ok, I understand. So then it seems I used to label filesystem (ext4) with e2label but now moving to GPT paritioning it does not work.
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16:39<zartoosh>musca, sorry I get that back I can do it as before. Thanks for clearing that for me.
16:40<musca>yw
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16:43<mathieu>hello. by onboard bluetooth device stopped working untill a recent update (jessie), not anymore shown by "hcitool dev"... any idea how to fix it ?
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16:47<ompaul>how do I disable stuff that doesn't seem to be enabled like hmac-md5
16:48<ompaul>it is enabled as ssh -vvv tells me but it is hashed out in ssh_config
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16:52<DebianLaptopTouchpad>hello, i have a big prob with my laptop, the touchpad dont work and is also not detected by the system. i have an acer from the E5 serie
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16:53<DebianLaptopTouchpad>with cat /proc/bus/input/devices i cant find any touchpad
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16:54<ompaul>DebianLaptopTouchpad: apt-cache search touchpad
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16:55<DebianLaptopTouchpad>tpconfig Found Synaptics Touchpad. but its not under inout device and it seems that its not loaded with the kernel
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16:56<DebianLaptopTouchpad>some froums said if its not in the "cat" list, than its maybe a kernel bug
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16:59<ompaul>no opinion no knowledge I'd start with what you know - tpconfig found it search for tpconfig
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17:00<DebianLaptopTouchpad>yes it found it because i installed that device from the repo manual
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17:14<zartoosh>hi in the file /etc/fstab could I use actual disk partitions, e.g /dev/sda2 rather than uuid, and if so do I need to modify my grub.cfg? thx
17:15<FlowRiser>DebianLaptopTouchpad, install synaptiks then auto launch it when the system starts
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17:16<DebianLaptopTouchpad>whats the exact command?
17:16<blast007>zartoosh: using the UUID is more reliable. Is there a reason you want to use the /dev/sd* in there?
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17:19<zartoosh>blast007, I need to clone a disk for production. As long as UUID will not be changed then I am okay with uuid? thx
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17:26<blast007>zartoosh: that I'm not sure.
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17:29<oskie>hello, my system appears to be booting with grub but I see no menu. Any idea what's wrong?
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18:57<fossfool>hello, I was attempting to install eclipse and jdk 1.8 on debian wheezy. Newbie question here, I used update-alternatives and now netbeans won't start. hoping to get some help to back this out.
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19:01<zarchne>fossfool: you mean the eclipse and netbeans packaged with wheezy?
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19:02<zarchne>along with what jdk exactly?
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19:05<fossfool>I installed 1.8 from oracle's website. Things were fine for netbeans
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19:06<fossfool>then I installed eclipse but it wasn't seeing 1.8, it's saw 1.6?
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19:06<fossfool>someone told me I needed to run update-alternatives on my install for eclipse to see it.
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19:07<fossfool>since runing update-alternatives I can't start java apps anymore.
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19:08<fossfool>I wan't to back whatever I did with update alternatives out.
19:08<devil>fossfool: just run it again and choose the original setting
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19:10<fossfool>thanks devil. I run upadate-alternatives --config java and I see 3 entries. on is for java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java is this the one that I should be using
19:11<devil>I can't tell you which one to use. to be sure, your apps run, you should choose oracle java
19:12<devil>there is (or at least was) apps that do not work with openjdk
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19:13<fossfool>what shipped with wheezy?
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19:13<devil>I have no idea, not a debian proper user. but my bet is on oenjdk, cause debian cannot ship oracle java
19:16<fossfool>Hey thanks, I'll try the openjdk and see if this fixes the problem.
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19:19<zarchne>openjdk-6 and openjdk-7 are in wheezy
19:20<zarchne>as well as gcj-4.7-jdk & gcj-4.6-jdk
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19:22<alumno>hola
19:23<Brigo>!es
19:23<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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19:57<anonymous>no
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19:59<themill>anonymous: please play elsewhere.
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20:55<nishi>Our college wifi block the fb and how to access fb
20:56<zarchne>bribe the net admin with beer
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21:24<twb>Is "update-rc checkfs.sh disable" supposed to work as at wheezy?
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21:25<twb>It renamed the file in /etc/rcS.d/ from S to K, at least, but I'm still seeing a logsave process lying around breaking my halt, because I have no /var/log/fsck/ so it never exits
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21:26<Guest5131>holA
21:28<twb>Perhaps instead I shall just put FSCK_LOGFILE=/var/log/checkfs in /etc/default/rcS
21:29<rudi_s>twb: I think disable doesn't stop currently running processes.
21:29<Guest5131>QUIEN POR AHI
21:30<twb>rudi_s: I rebooted after that.
21:31<twb>OK I booted the wrong thing, never mind
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21:32<Guest5131>HABLENNN
21:32<twb>!es
21:32<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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21:33<Fakeboost>Skype doesnt start after I upgraded...Anyone had the same problem?
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21:35<twb>Fakeboost: does it print any errors to stderr?
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21:35<Fakeboost>Just an "aborted"
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21:35<Fakeboost>twb
21:35<Fakeboost>in terminal
21:36<twb>OK.
21:36<twb>"strace -o/tmp/trace skype", then pastebin /tmp/trace
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21:36<Fakeboost>ok
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21:37<Fakeboost>twb, "strace command not found"
21:38<Fakeboost>nor trace
21:38<abrotman>so install it
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21:38<Fakeboost>i installed it
21:38<_4ll3n>whereis strace
21:38<_4ll3n>command
21:38<Fakeboost>ok
21:39<Fakeboost>output: strace:
21:39<Fakeboost>thats it
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21:40<zarchne>not "strace: skype: command not found" which is different?
21:40<Fakeboost>i dont get it ...
21:41<zarchne>if strace is installed, it should be /usr/bin/strace
21:41<twb>Bollocks! If I set FSCK_LOGFILE in /etc/default/rcS then /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh and /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh will overwrite one another
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21:42<Fakeboost>ok, but wait, there might be something wrong with the skype .deb
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21:42<Fakeboost>ill download it again
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21:43<zarchne>Then there was that guy yesterday whose /bin/tar was corrupted. I just rejoined the channel after a long absence; are these normal?
21:44<twb>FSCK_LOGFILE=/var/log/${FSCK_LOGFILE#/var/log/fsck/}
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21:52<SamB>twb: the hell is that
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21:55<twb>SamB: OK so when I make my live CDs, I throw out /var/log/* because *build time* logs aren't relevant and it saves a little space
21:55<twb>SamB: except that /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh wants /var/log/fsck/ to exist so it can write /var/log/fsck/checkfs to confirm that all 0 of the 0 hard disks in the diskless system have successfully fscked.
21:56<twb>Except that never exists, so logsave process just sits around forever remembering that output from fsck -a
21:56<SamB>twb: it's just that that looks like a very strange construction, even if I haven't memorized the rules for ${#}
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21:56<twb>Which WOULD BE FINE, except that the process doesn't die, so when I do "shutdown -h" it takes an extra ten seconds for /etc/init.d/killprocs to give up waiting for kill -15 of logsave, and do a kill -9 on it.
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21:57<SamB>twb: what, doesn't it need to make sure the cramfs is clean though ;-P
21:57<twb>So plan A was to simply disable the script, but I cocked that up and while doing so noticd I could simply change the place it writes to.
21:57<twb>EXCEPT that /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh *also* writes to that, and the one would overwrite the other.
21:58<SamB>oh, I see
21:58<twb>So, that line basically says "your FSCK_LOGFILE is as it was, except instead of /var/log/fsck/something, it is now /var/log/something"
21:58<SamB>parameter expansion syntax is so damn cryptic sometimes!
21:58<twb>Which is slightly nicer because I do actually use these live images on some has-a-disk servers, too.
21:59<twb>Anyway I'm testing that now
21:59<SamB>twb: personally, I might just try to nuke all the regular files
21:59<SamB>or something like that
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22:09<twb>SamB: success! http://sprunge.us/GcCW
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