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00:07<Zxcvb>I forgot to run "aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list " on my old system before reinstalling. Is there any way I can run it on a backup without having to restore the backup first?
00:07<Zxcvb>like is there a way to tell it to use /mnt/backup/var/lib/dpkg to generate the list?
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00:14<themill>Zxcvb: you can either just "chroot /mnt/backup" and then run it, or aptitude -oDir=/mnt/backup/ ... might work out
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00:18<Zxcvb>themill: Ok, I did both but got slightly different lists for both
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00:31<Zxcvb>themill: looks like the o=dir one was the wrong one to use
00:31<themill>My experience with passing options like that to apt is that it is often better to chroot.
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00:42<steve__>anyone know how to get wireless to work in wattos r 8
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00:44<steve__>well nite all
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01:13<donald>anyone know how to set up the wireless in debian?
01:15<jm_>which part of it?
01:15<jm_>but no, not anyone knows
01:18<donald>well nite all
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01:31<MichaelPaoli>Debian stable - is there a CLI (and if so in what package?) for using /dev/loop-control to dynamically create loop devices and get rid of (and free the resources) of unneeded loop devices?
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01:37<zarchne>MichaelPaoli: losetup?
01:37<jm_>loop devices are created automatically as needed, don't see why you would want to get rid of them once created
01:38<zarchne>losetup is in the mount package
01:38<MichaelPaoli>zarchne losetup configured and deconfigures, doesn't create or get rid of loop devices - at least that I see anywhere on the man page.
01:39<MichaelPaoli>... typical scenario is module is loaded, by default it allows 8 loop devices, some are in use, ... one runs out of loop devices, but need to continue to use those that are in use. Should be able to do that with /dev/loop-control ...
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01:40<MichaelPaoli>There are ioctl calls that will do that with /dev/loop-control ... but is there any CLI utility that will do that?
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01:43<zorro>just Hi, happy here with solydx
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01:51<zarchne>MichaelPaoli: It looks like, like jm_ says, —confirmed by google, haven't tried this myself— with recent (post-2009) kernels, you can mknod the device entries and it just works. "mknod -m 660 /dev/loop8 b 7 8"
01:52<MichaelPaoli>zarchne Hmmm... I'll have to try that ...
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02:02<MichaelPaoli>zarchne jm_ - Ah, thanks, that actually works ... just create the additional loop device(s) with mknod - and they simply work.
02:03<zarchne>I mean, you're welcome; thanks for confirming that.
02:04<jm_>no problem
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02:17<bdog7>If use debian backports to install vlc for example, when in future I run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade will it check backports for any updates or do I need to specify a new install manually from the backports application?
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02:20<themill>bdog7: unless you pin it otherwise, updated packages from backports would be automatically considered to be valid candidates and included in a simple "upgrade"/
02:20<themill>(but note that packages might introduce new dependencies or require package removals and that can require you to help apt understand what to do here with some manual guidance)
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02:26<bdog7>ok themill so I might just manually install backports upgrades when I want them
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02:27<themill>"apt-get upgrade" will mostly do the right thing for you
02:31<bdog7>I don't have anything pinned, I have tried pinning things before from testing and made a mess of things
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03:05<piotr_>I can't download flushplugin, there is error when downloading file form
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03:13<jm_>piotr_: are you downloading it manually?
03:13<piotr_>no, using synaptic
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03:14<_4ll3n>apt-get install flashplugin-installer , you try
03:15<piotr_>i'll try
03:16<jm_>it seems to work fine here
03:16<jm_>+ perl i686
03:16<jm_>+ upstream=
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03:16<piotr_>i'm using amd64 port
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03:17<piotr_>ERROR: wget failed to download
03:18<jm_>let me try that
03:18<jm_>it downloaded it just fine
03:18<_4ll3n>download , OK!
03:18<jm_>it got it from
03:20<piotr_>ERROR: The certificate of `' is not trusted.
03:20<piotr_>ERROR: The certificate of `' hasn't got a known issuer.
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03:20<jm_>and if I remove from its cache it can download it just fine
03:20<themill>piotr_: what version of the flashplugin-nonfree package do you have?
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03:23<piotr_>1:3.5 is testing version
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03:23<piotr_>but this is what i get from package list in synaptic
03:24<jm_>are you using testing?
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03:26<piotr_>this information is provided by synaptic in properties tab, there is no other version, old was as i remember upgraded
03:28<themill>piotr_: do you have the ca-certificates package installed?
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03:29<piotr_>yes 20130119
03:29<themill>that's not the version in testing
03:30<piotr_>so i need additional ones, where do i find them?
03:31<themill>in the ca-certificates package?
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03:32<piotr_>i have only one ca_certificates package with this number
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03:34<piotr_>ok i got it, 20140325 is testing but i don't have it on package list
03:35<themill>piotr_: which version of debian are you actually using there?
03:36<themill>so why do you have flashplugin-nonfree from testing?
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03:37<piotr_>it was marked for upgrade, i thought it is save to upgrade
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03:38<themill>so you're not running wheezy at all there... you have some interesting mixture of different releases.
03:39<piotr_>knoppix 7.2
03:39<themill>so not debian at all...
03:39<themill>dpkg: tell piotr_ about knoppix
03:40<piotr_>according to knoppix faq: knoppix after hard install is debian
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03:41<themill>well flashplugin-nonfree works in debian and you have a big, completely unsupportable mess
03:42<piotr_>thanks to themill : you got me correct hint
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03:43<piotr_>i upgraded ca_certificates, now installation goes fine
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03:45<piotr_>i failed to create my own debian proper installation
03:46<piotr_>knoppix if fine: good choice of applications, i'm many years slackware user
03:46<jm_>piotr_: ok but it's not supported here, only pure debian is supported
03:46<bdog7>piotr_: this channel is for debian support
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03:47<piotr_>us i know debian is not a distribution, is rather some kind project
03:47<piotr_>ubuntu is build on debian, mepis and many others
03:48<piotr_>so waht do you mean by debian?
03:49<themill>piotr_: start with an installer you downloaded from and install software from
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03:51<jm_>debian is a distribution
03:51<piotr_>i did so; i finally get system with bunch of unusable software, it is not easy create by yourself system based on debian
03:52<Guest149>jm_: as a new debian wheezy user ... thank you - i was very confused for a seocnd there
03:52<themill>piotr_: It's fine for you to decide that debian is not for you and want to play with a derivative instead -- you just need to ask that derivative for support as there is no way we can know what they've modified or how their derivative is supposed to work
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03:52<piotr_>debian has 20.000 packages in repositories
03:53<piotr_>nevermind , thank for your help
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05:05<ytm>@seek history of the world
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05:16<spippi>ciao world
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05:23<patzak>hi, which package should i file an ntfs (or in general filesystem management) related bug report against?
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05:44<jm_>patzak: which NTFS mount method are you using?
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05:51<patzak>jm_: as i asked here some days ago, my shutdown process hangs for about one minute when there is a mounted ntfs partition
05:51<patzak>jm_: this happens just with ntfs, either with sysvinit and systemd
05:51<jm_>patzak: are you using testing?
05:51<patzak>jm_: yes
05:52<jm_>patzak: then ask in #debian-next
05:52<jm_>if I were you I would try to find out where in the shutdown sequence the delay occurs
05:53<patzak>jm_: ok, anyways i was asking how to file a bug report related to ntfs, which is not testing specific i guess :)
05:53<jm_>patzak: no idea if you can't tell at which point exactly the delay occurs
05:53<patzak>jm_: already tried with the various systemd debug option on the debian wiki page for systemd... but nothing useful
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05:55<jm_>patzak: might be easier using sysvinit and adding set -x in init scripts
05:55<patzak>jm_: all i get is "a stop job is running for session 1 of user", but it doesn't say what and how, even with debug output
05:56<patzak>jm_: unfortunately sysvinit is gone on my machine
05:56<jm_>patzak: for systemd continue in #debian-next, stable users are mostly not using it so not much help here
05:56<patzak>ok thanks
05:56<SynrGy>you make your best guess as to where to file a bug, and if you've guessed wrong, the maintainer should reassign to the appropriate package. for ntfs, probably ntfs-3g (it's a userspace filesystem built on fuse)
05:56<SynrGy>for other filesystems in the kernel, then probably against the kernel
05:56<SynrGy>but it may not be the filesystem itself
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05:57<SynrGy>still, if random people on irc can't help you decide, it's better to just go ahead and file the bug based on your best guess rather than wait for days
05:57<SynrGy>as then it's in the hands of 'experts' who hopefully can decide better than we can
05:58<patzak>SynrGy: thanks
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05:59<patzak>SynrGy: i don't know if it depends on how mount/umount is called in init scripts or units at shutdown
05:59<patzak>maybe it could be related to mount
05:59<patzak>maybe not...
06:00<SynrGy>could be related to sequencing of init scripts at shutdown
06:00<patzak>SynrGy: yes that's reasonable
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06:27<idea-work>need some help with a server
06:28<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
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06:31<jm_>idea-work: keep it in the channel
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06:32<idea-work>I need to know if my URL it's visible from the outside now
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06:34<grove>idea-work: You can probably (ab)use for that. Alternatively you could find a channel where it's not completely off-topic and give the URL and ask people to test
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06:37<idea-work> don't work fine
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06:37<idea-work>It's not just you! looks down from here.
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06:38<edi>hi all :)
06:38<idea-work>hi edi
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07:12<leo>hello guys i have a trouble here my terminal stop to work inside my gnome what i can do to solve this
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07:41<Eino>I don't know where to ask this, but since I'm using Debian, here goes; have you guys figured out how to batch download profile photos of friends from facebook? I would like the profile photos of my friends downloaded with the filenames being their names
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07:48<Stummi>Eino, look into perl and www mechanize
07:48<Stummi>you should probably check the facebook terms first, if using a crawler on facebook domains is allowed
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07:50<Stummi>or maybe there is an api which allows you to access the data easier
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08:44<holden87>heya guys. one question. I installed Wheezy, and i'm trying to mount an external ntfs hdd. nautilus recognizes it, but won't mount it. how can i make nautilus mount it automatically?
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08:48<holden87>Here's the associated dmesg with sdb1:
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08:48<holden87>and ntfs-3g and fuse are installed. I'm running gnome btw.
08:49<spippi>edit fstab
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08:49<spippi>but error tell there is a problem
08:50<spippi>with fstab you can auto mount
08:50<musca>usually you don't want removable media in your fstab.
08:51<spippi>only comment the rows
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08:52<holden87>Let me look at fstab (newb, sorry :) ). brb
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08:54<dpkg>[plugdev] From 'Users and Groups in the Debian System': "Members of this group can access removable devices in limited ways without explicit configuration in /etc/fstab. This is useful for local users who expect to be able to insert and use CDs, USB drives, and so on." See also <groups>, <pmount>.
08:54<holden87>here's what fstab says:
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08:55<holden87>It seems as though there's something reserved for an usb or something?
08:55<spippi>comment the last 2 rows
08:55<holden87>or do i just change that noauto into auto?
08:55<holden87>thanks spippi:
08:55<spippi>nothing i solved with this system
08:55<spippi>you are welcome
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08:56<holden87>spippi: is login/logout necessary?
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08:57<spippi>i don't remeber
08:57<spippi>but i think no
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09:02<bdog7>do updats from the debian security repo goto normal stable repo's too?
09:02<centrx>bdog7, On point releases they do
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09:03<bdog7>i see
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09:14<ssagsadfj>I want unix os how to download
09:16<abrotman>which OS?
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09:25<frsfett4>How to report a sound card bug?
09:25<abrotman>can you re-create it? file a bug using reportbut
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09:27<frsfett4>I`m using Xbuntu.
09:28<abrotman>frsfett4: so ask #xubuntu on
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09:28<abrotman>It's not supported here, I don't know there bug reporting process
09:29<frsfett4>no it`s the same
09:29<frsfett4>It`s audio related.
09:29<frsfett4>Also in ubuntu.
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09:29<centrx>This isn't #ubuntu either
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09:37<abrotman>frsfett4: this is still the wrong place, use #ubuntu on This channel only supports Debian
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10:52<Shira>hello i have a big problem, my notebook stopps sometimes on boot by systemd-fsck (sometimes if the display driver change and the systemd-fsck is visable or sometimes blackscreen) after 2-3 restart (powwer off power on, hard reset) i can boot into it
10:52<Shira>any could help me?
10:54<Kjetil>*shrugs* systemd
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10:55<Shira>yea and i dont know why it stcuks on boot
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10:57<Shira>and i also dont find any log
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11:00<Kjetil>ÿou can try turning on the debug flag. If that doesn't turn your computer into a slow mess. (
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11:04<Shira>i will try
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11:16<Shira>or any other idea what it could be?
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11:27<grove>Shira: systemd ain't standard in debian stable, so you're in the front channel. If you're running testing try #debian-next
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11:29<Shira>ok i will
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11:53<tore_>Hi, I tried the debian live 7.6, but I could not surf the internet because I do not detect the network wireless.con ubuntu or mint and many other distributions do not have this problem, someone can tell me why?(please answer in Italian, Thanks)
11:53<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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12:13<babilen>tore_: You probably require firmware for your wireless adaptor. What does "lspci -nn|grep -i network" give you?
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12:31<anayeli>Ubuntu is inferior to debian.
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12:31<lostson>already a well known fact in here anayeli
12:31<SynrG>anayeli: are you coming quickly to a support question? because rants/raves -> /dev/null
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12:35<jimmyjhn>I'm going to run a test on my sid system and add this 'init=/bin/systemd' to my grub menu and see what happens!?!
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12:37<babilen>jimmyjhn: Discussion and results in #debian-next please :)
12:37<babilen>jimmyjhn: I would recommend to just boot and then edit the kernel command line interactive ("e" on top of the entry in the grub menu) and then boot with F10. That way you don't have to chroot or anything like that if you run into problems.
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12:45<CyberBob>i'm trying to copy all the contents of one folder to another but cp -r /home/source/* /home/dest isn't grabbing the dotfiles
12:45<CyberBob>any ideas?
12:47<Kjetil>-R ?
12:48<fantasma>maybe also: -f ?
12:48<LtL>CyberBob: cp -a with the -R
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12:51<CyberBob>just tried all of those and it's only grabbing the friendly folders like pictures etc. no config information
12:51<CyberBob>e.g. dotfiles
12:53<CyberBob>i should say i'm trying to move files from a different regular home folder to a new encrypted mountpoint /home/dest
12:53<CyberBob>using encfs
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12:56<valdyn>CyberBob: you can skip the *, then it will grab dotfiles
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12:57<valdyn>CyberBob: or see yourself what you get : echo * or echo .*
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13:03<CyberBob>i think i lost my friendly folders to stupidity with mv then rm the only copy but with that .* identifier i think it's cp'ing what i want now
13:04<CyberBob>ty gentlemen
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13:05<CyberBob>oh being sleep deprived in front of a shell
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13:14<yto>how to move files from my local linux to a share folder on network pc with windows os with terminal?
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13:15<weasel>hard to tell without knowing details of your setup.
13:15<weasel>maybe you want smbclient.
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13:16<somiaj>yto: depends on your setup. there is a cli tool for samba so you can set up a share on the windows machine, mount it and then copy things over. You can also use other servers such as sftp, scp, http, etc
13:17<yto>somiaj: can you help me to use ftp protocol?
13:18<babilen>ftp must die!
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13:21<somiaj>yto: unless the windows is running an ftp server already I woudln't suggest that method. For a local network I would use samba. If you have to use ftp, use sftp insetad.
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13:23<yto>somiaj: how to run sftp in win7?
13:23<somiaj>yto: but saying 'share folder' on a windows network machine, just use samba (smbclient) along with the cifs file system. You could just mount the share file and copy things over with cp
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13:24<somiaj>yto: this is not the correct place for how to set up a sftp server on windows.
13:24<somiaj>we only support #debian here. If you need help seting up software on windows, you may want to try ##windows on
13:24<yto>somiaj: thanks for your help
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13:34<yto>somiaj: how to move files with samba? is it (mv file1 smb:\\pc1\newfolder)?
13:37<yto>how to move files with samba? is it (mv file1 smb:\\pc1\newfolder)?
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13:38<somiaj>you have to mount the samba share first with mount.cifs
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13:39<somiaj>once it is mounted, you can treate it as a local set of files you can copy over to just fine
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13:41<stdh>or, with smbclient, use put and get
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13:49<zartoosh>HI is there a linux utility to re-read uefi boot efivars which are displayed by efibootmgr -v ? thx
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13:53<zarchne>zartoosh: I don't know. You've got the efilinux package?
13:55<zarchne>I wonder what the easiest way to list the contents of a package is here, without downloading it. (If I have it installed, I use "dpkg -L", or "dpkg -S" to search.)
13:56<somiaj>zarchne: apt-file
13:59<zarchne>somiaj: Aha, thanks.
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14:02<Shira>hello question what was the name of the testing channel?
14:02<zarchne>Shira: #debian-next
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14:27<CyberBob>is there an easy way to remove pulseaudio, i have alsa working fine and pulseaudio puts a dir in my home after unmounting the encfs tied to it so i have to remove it every time i restart or encfs won't mount
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14:28<Human_G33k>hello sry for my en, i have some I/O at boot on one of my HDD, but i want try to access at my data. i use lvm and encryption. somebody know how i can do this ?
14:29<Human_G33k>more information here, sry it's in fr
14:30<Human_G33k>i want access to /var
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14:35<Brigo>CyberBob, did you try to remove it with apt-get?
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14:54<cfox>I realize this may not be the perfect channel for this question, but no one is answering on #debian-mentors. I'm trying to use "dch -i" to create a new changelog entry, but it's just changing the version number of my one and only changelog entry and adding a new * line. How do I get "dch -i" to act as documented?
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15:20<habs>I'm having a lot of trouble installing Debian on a 2011 intel (amd64) iMac. I booted up into a gParted LiveCD to resize the partitions to make space, then installed via the Wheezy netinst CD regularly, then installed rEFInd with all drivers. I could then boot into Debian but after X tried to start I just got a black (as in, turned off) screen using the free radeon driver. Single user mode worked
15:20<habs>fine though. So I tried disabling X and installing linux-firmware-nonfree and legaxy fglrx from wheezy-backports. Both of them still didn't do the trick; the best I was able to get was a black (but still turned on) screen. What can I do to further debug / fix this?
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15:21<habs>I'd prefer a free solution if at all possible but it looks like that may not be possible here?
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15:22<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or for pics. Use for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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15:23<zarchne>habs: go back to the radeon driver and paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log into one of those.
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15:31<spippi>please help me mouse of netbook not work
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15:42<kyconquers>One of my boxes I am conntinuing to get a possible missing firmware error. I have install firmware-linux-non-free. is there a command to see which chipset/s are missing firmwares?
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15:48<qwk>jmcnaught, i finally made the upgrade from sqz to wheezy and I think everything went fine but the kernal seem to be the same.
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15:58<stdh>kyconquers: look in /var/log/dmesg for hints
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16:03<jmcnaught>qwk: the kernel being the same is because you're on OpenVZ, which isn't true virtualization
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16:03<babilen>kyconquers: "dmesg|grep firmware" along with "lspci -nn" and "aptitude search '!~i~n^firmware'"
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16:04<CyberBob>Brigo it was giving me all kinds of packages that depend on it so i just sought out the main few that didn't require huge system changes and that seemed to take care of the mysterious folder, ty
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16:11<habs>zarchne: I went back to the radeon driver, but when I try to service gdm3 start with it, no new /var/log/Xorg* files are created after rebooting to check. Once I start X I have to reboot because the screen turns off; I can't even switch to another tty.
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16:15<habs>zarchne: I do get /var/log/Xorg* files when using the legacy fglrx driver though. But I'd really like to confirm that there's no way to get radeon working before I have to resort to that.
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16:22<debiantus>Is there a way to get rid of gnome 3 "visual effects" where mouse to left upper corner brings you "out" and the workspace switcher is on tight?
16:22<debiantus>And instead have a simple interface?
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16:23<zarchne>debiantus: it downgrades automatically if your video hardware is old enough.
16:24<debiantus>zarchne, how can I force it to downgrade if my hardware is good?
16:24<debiantus>Do you mean it downgrades to gnome 2? or downgrades the effects/extentions?
16:25<habs>zarchne: What can I do to debug this problem if I can't get the Xorg logs?
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16:26<zarchne>It's still gnome 3. "fallback mode" I think.
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16:27<debiantus>zarchne, that must be it, thanks
16:27<zarchne>habs: yeah, I don't know why it's not even trying to make a log. do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? you probably shouldn't need one.
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16:27<babilen>debiantus: It's not an "effect" it *is* the Gnome 3 interface. You cannot disable that.
16:28<babilen>You can use a fallback session, but that will go away. If you don't want Gnome 3 then don't use it, but a lot of people like it after a while and wouldn't want to miss it.
16:29<debiantus>babilen, if I get rid of it, and say use something else, will all the current gnome apps stop working? like gcalctool, gedit, etc...
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16:31<babilen>debiantus: You can typically use those programs regardless of the interface you are using. They might not integrate as well into, say, XFCE or KDE or a window manager as they do in Gnome, but sure .. you can use them!
16:32<debiantus>babilen, thanks
16:32<babilen>debiantus: How long have you been using it?
16:32<debiantus>I've been using gnome for 7 years, never tried anything else
16:32<babilen>I am referring to Gnome 3
16:33<debiantus>oh, few months
16:33<babilen>Okay, that should have been long enough to figure out if you like it or not I guess :)
16:34<debiantus>I like it, it's just that I have to run it in a virtual machine at work and need it to be "simpler"
16:34<debiantus>I guess this is the time to experiement with other environments
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16:47<habs>zarchne: I needed one when I was using fglrx but I removed it when I switched back to radeon.
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16:48<zarchne>habs: okay, right.
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16:55<Human_G33k>how can i mount a encrypted lvm device ?
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16:57<zarchne>Human_G33k: is it in /dev/mapper ?
16:57<habs>zarchne: If I try to pipe the output of startx into a file and then do a hard shutdown will the file still be written to disk?
16:58<zarchne>You might want to learn about the Magic SysRq key.
16:59<zarchne>If there's even a way to activate it on the Mac.
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16:59<habs>zarchne: I'm using a PC keyboard so I think I can use that
17:01<Human_G33k>zarchne: yes it is but my hdd have some I/O error and it's can't be mount during boot, so i don't know if i can really re mount it and how, i'm a student and i have no back up for my data
17:01<zarchne>habs: E.g., the "s" command syncs the disks first; that would be one thing to increase your chances of success.
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17:02<zarchne>Human_G33k: So are there SOME lvms on that disk you can access?
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17:03<Human_G33k>zarchne: sry it's not in en but i think it's can be usefull
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17:04<Human_G33k>zarchne: i want restore /dev/mapper/ServerVar-var if you need i can traduce some sentences
17:05<zarchne>I've already seen all though sentences in English (and, bonus, I took French in high school).
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17:07<skr>did anyone here manage to get kvm vga passthrough?
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17:10<Human_G33k>zarchne: i was in maintenance mode when i do this paste
17:11<Human_G33k>if you need i can send dmesg ?
17:11<zarchne>Your volume group is called "Server", right?
17:11<zarchne>Oh, On sda.
17:11<zarchne>And on sdb, it's ServerVar.
17:11<zarchne>so the cryptsetup is working, looks like.
17:12<Human_G33k>i have 2 hdd and 2 groups Server and ServerVar
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17:13<zarchne>what happens if you just e2fsck /dev/ServerVar-var ?
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17:13<Human_G33k>but in my /var i have only /lock /log /run
17:13<zarchne>Right, it hasn't been mounted yet.
17:14<zarchne>It looks to me like the encryption/decryption is still working.
17:14<Human_G33k>zarchne: bad magic number
17:15<Human_G33k>in superblock
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17:16<Human_G33k>superblock invalid trying backup blocks
17:16<zarchne>Obviously that's bad. You are using ext[234], right? OR I'm missing something else...
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17:17<Human_G33k>no jfs
17:17<Human_G33k>for /var
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17:18<zarchne>Oh, well, then... "fsck.jfs /dev/ServerVar-var"?
17:19<Human_G33k>DRDY error
17:20<Human_G33k>logical block 2262 to 2265 i think
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17:21<Human_G33k>phase 1 still in progress
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17:23<Human_G33k>humm unrecoverable error reading M from /dev/ServerVar/var CANNOT CONTINUE
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17:24<Human_G33k>zarchne: it's bad no ?
17:24<zarchne>Yeah, your disk is failing.
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17:25<zarchne>Some of it is still readable, though.
17:25<zarchne>you could try mounting it ro and see if anything important is recoverable.
17:26<calisto>hi all I have a resolution of display are dispalse to left 2 cm, how can displase to rigth?
17:26<Human_G33k>zarchne: ok can you guide me ? i think i never mount a device in read only.
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17:27<zarchne>Human_G33k: just 'mount -t jfs -o ro /dev/ServerVar-var /mnt'
17:28<zarchne>calisto: easiest way is adjusting monitor itself.
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17:28<Human_G33k>ok thx just i read the man and i try
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17:28<Human_G33k>i love understant what i do
17:28<calisto>zarchne: the monitor is a a 32" tv panasonic, and not have horizontal correction
17:28<calisto>led tv
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17:30<Human_G33k>zarchne: just for being sure i need to mkdir a new directory in mnt ?
17:30<zarchne>Human_G33k: /mnt should already be available
17:32<Human_G33k>zarchne: so thx i can access to my files now i will do a copy
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17:34<habs>zarchne: Alt-Sysrq-R,K,S all weren't able to do anything visible for me; they worked in the ttys but when I started X they had no effect; I guess switching to raw mode didn't work because I still couldn't change ttys
17:35<Human_G33k>zarchne: just a final question but i think i know the reponse . Can i restore my database with /var/lib/mysql directory in other computer ?
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17:36<zarchne>Human_G33k: If the whole directory is intact, there's a good chance of it, I guess.
17:36<zathras>Hi. On Wheezy with Apache2 I am no longer able to use SSL vhosts after I tried to add another one. In the logs: [warn] Init: Name-based SSL virtual hosts only work for clients with TLS server name indication support (RFC 4366)
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17:37<Human_G33k>zarchne: thx
17:37<zarchne>I backup and restore mysql dbs but usually from text files.
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17:39<zathras>afaik SSLStrictSNIVHostCheck is off, yet I get 403 errors
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17:39<habs>zarchne: Yup, I tried doing a reisub but it didn't work; still had to do a hard manual reboot
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17:41<zathras>if I set SSLStrictSNIVHostCheck to On I get 404 errors
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17:43<zarchne>zathras: You are trying to set up name-based SSL virtual hosts, right?
17:43<zathras>zarchne, correct
17:43<zathras>named based vhosts on a single IP
17:44<zathras>default apache2 package
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17:44<zathras>python + passenger (ruby) required
17:44<zarchne>Just checking. I've set up multiple ssl hosts and name-based hosting, but not together. So I'm interested.
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17:45<zathras>I had these included in the default-ssl config but added a new one in it' s own sites-available configfile and then everything stopped working
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17:46<zathras>even a backroll did not work for some reason. Nevertheless: I prefer to have things in separate files so I can also diverse logging and be able to enable/disable dites
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17:50<zathras>zarchne, in theory:
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18:05<zathras>lol. that helped. now apache2 is no longer starting as it complains [error] Server should be SSL-aware but has no certificate configured [Hint: SSLCertificateFile]
18:05<zathras>even though that is configured afaik
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18:07<zathras>ah. nm
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18:17<Beren>How can I tell which of two graphics cards my computer is using? I believe it's using the integrated and weaker intel card, and want it to use the nvidia card instead, but before I make a mess It'd be nice to know for sure which card is being used
18:17<ids_>guys anyone in here know about Linux Security onion and how to begin running the IDS tools?
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19:05<Beren>Hi, I need help getting my nvidia card to work with X
19:06<mtn>Beren: did you follow the debian wiki?
19:06<Beren>mtn, I believe so
19:06<mtn>Beren: not sure?
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19:07<Beren>I've looked at a lot of webpages for help with this, including the debian wiki, so I am checking right now if what I most recently tried is compliant with the wiki
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19:09<Beren>Is it necessary to get the nvidia-kernel-dkms from wheezy backports?
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19:13<gsimmons>Beren: No. You can use nvidia-kernel-dkms 304.117-1 if that version supports your card.
19:13<Beren>Okay, I have that installed already
19:14<oldlaptop>it would help to know what NVIDIA card this is :)
19:14<Beren>Would it help to know more about the specifics of the problems I'm experiencing, such as the error X gives me?
19:14<Beren>oldlaptop, this is a GeForce GT 650M
19:15<oldlaptop>that information would greatly help as wel
19:16<mtn>Beren: errors are always helpful. how else would we know what is going on? if more than a couple of lines, past them to
19:16<Beren>When any /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is present (among the ones I have tried, at least), X tells me that there are no screens found
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19:17<Beren>When there is no such file in existence, it uses the pre-made /root/ file which lists numerous screens and devices and monitors that I don't think exist, and X starts up fine
19:17<Beren>When that happens, /var/log/X.0.log tells me that the other graphics card (the integrated intel card) is the one that is used
19:17<oldlaptop>oh dear, optimus?
19:18<Beren>I don't think so? I don't really know about that
19:18<oldlaptop>Is this a laptop with "switchable" graphics?
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19:18<Beren>If it is, I haven't heard any mention of it at all, or you're using terminology I'm unfamiliar with
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19:19<Beren>When in my win8 partition, less graphics intensive programs use the intel card because that's cheaper. Does that count as switchable?
19:20<mtn>Beren: yup, that is what you have, so it seems
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19:21<Beren>Yeah, the bumblebee page seems to describe my situation, but it seems odd that I wouldn't have seen it called that anywhere before, through the purchasing process or anywhere in my windows configuration
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19:22<Beren>This is the card I have, and it does look like it's an optimus thing:
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19:25<Beren>Okay, the debian wiki page for bumblebee looks like it will work, thank you. Should I remove the nvidia packages I have already installed before installing the bumblebee stuff?
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19:50<darican>anyone know how to get to the opferguson channel
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20:37<rmorabia>Newbie question, but how would I edit my sources.list?
20:37<sney>it's a text file, open it in your favorite text editor as root
20:41<oldlaptop>rmorabia: some tutorials may possibly have omitted that you can find it in /etc/apt (the full path is thus /etc/apt/sources.list)
20:42<rmorabia>Is there any way to open as root from the GUI? I have KDE.
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20:43<rryoumaa>as an alternativ, you can open a terminal, then log in, then use an editor
20:44<rryoumaa>(or sudo)
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20:44<oldlaptop>rmorabia: take a look at kdesu, perhaps
20:45<oldlaptop>but you really, really should try and learn the command line sooner or later ;)
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20:46<raidensnake>does anyone know how to stop a package from installing so it doesn't wipe out a whole other dependencies?
20:46<raidensnake>I keep getting this
20:46<raidensnake>The following packages have unmet dependencies
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20:46<somiaj>raidensnake: what version of debian are you running?
20:47<raidensnake>wheezy on a dedicated server
20:47<raidensnake>if i use the apt-get-f it will wipe out virtualmin that's installed
20:48<raidensnake>which isn't an option since there's websites running on it.
20:48<oldlaptop>raidensnake: take a look at aptitude's curses interface, it's very useful for resolving conflicts
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20:48<raidensnake>here's the problem. if I install it using -f webmin and everything else gets removed.
20:49<raidensnake>if i don't i can't update anything else as it stops me dead in my tracks.
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20:52<raidensnake>any suggestions?
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20:55<habs>raidensnake: You can try to purge the conflicting package; apt-get purge (whatever package is causing virtualmin to be removed)
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20:56<raidensnake>if I do that as well it still wants to remove virtualmin
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20:57<birch>My netbook's touchpad recently stopped working. The touchpad never had a working right-click but the left-click was fine until a few weeks ago. Here is the touchpad type N: Name="ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" My hardware specs any suggestions on what to check in synaptics?
20:57<oldlaptop>is this a debian stable system?
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20:58<oldlaptop>if so I'm honestly inclined to suspect hardware failure
20:58<birch>oldlaptop, debian wheezy 64bit current. it's not hardware because it works fine on the windows partition
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20:59<somiaj>raidensnake: you are mixing unoffical sources that may not be for debian stable. What sources did you add to your install, they are causing the problems.
20:59<birch>oldlaptop, it's always been weird because the touchpad is one single button, with the left click and right click being decided by the driver. this is fine on windows the linxu driver only gives me left click. i recently did major updates to the windows partition after almost 2 years of disuse, and now it doesn't work at all in linux
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21:00<birch>but the linux*
21:00<birch> and are sparse
21:01<raidensnake>just a new php from and apt that came with the server
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21:04<birch>oldlaptop, do you think is worth trying?
21:04<oldlaptop>birch: wonder if it's one of those devices that has internal configuration/state/something changed by the windows driver
21:04<birch>oldlaptop, i haven't heard anything about that, but it sounds annoying
21:04<skx_netb>all eeepc's should work out of the box with debian stable
21:04<skx_netb>i am currently using one right now
21:04<birch>this is aspire one, not eeepc
21:05<birch>i miss my old eeepc, i'd still use it if the battery weren't dead. it was better than this even though it's older.
21:05<oldlaptop>birch: did anything else change at about the same time?
21:05<birch>oldlaptop, it's hard to say. i have taken linux updates, including kernel updates. is there an aptitude update history feature?
21:06<oldlaptop>there is; /var/log/aptitude
21:06<oldlaptop>you might blindly try a backports kernel or something like that
21:07<oldlaptop>(pretty safe as far as desperate stupid measures go)
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21:10<somiaj>raidensnake: well your problem is not with debian but with what ever random sources you have added (or were added for you) with your system. You could try to manually fix it, but it sounds like you are using a bad source and need to tell them about it.
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21:10<somiaj>raidensnake: by random I mean non debian sources which debian doesn't have control over.
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21:12<raidensnake>well the sources were built in to the server package
21:12<rmorabia>Sorry, another stupid question--I'm accepting terms in the command line and can't figure out how to get to the <Ok>?
21:12<raidensnake>all I'm asking is there a way of fixing it without breaking anything in the process
21:13<themill>rmorabia: accepting terms?
21:13<rmorabia>Let me get a screenshot.
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21:13<themill>rmorabia: tab?
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21:14<rmorabia>Tried scrolling all the way down, still no prompt.
21:15<birch>oldlaptop, ok thanks. i'm also considering a fresh install. i'll decide maybe this weekend. cheers.
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21:18<somiaj>raidensnake: the fix is to fix the sources so they don't conflict. Maybe contact the server admin who uses their own sources
21:19<somiaj>raidensnake: if apt-get -f install removes a lot of stuff, this is because there is a broken dependency in the source that can't be resolved
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21:21<raidensnake>in this case the server dc team that don't speak english.
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21:23<somiaj>well we can't fix their broken packages, again as far as I can tell it is a missing dependency issue with that.
21:23<somiaj>have you isolated exactly which dependency (or dependencies) are missing/not the correct version, that could help maybe getting a fix for you
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21:26<somiaj>raidensnake: but apt will continue to complian and not work until you fix the broken dependency. If you could track down the exact package that is causing the problem it may be possible to work aroudn it
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22:59<ljsoftnet>i compiled and install a wireless driver how do i uninstall, this driver?
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23:42<bdog7>I was using the vlc package from debian wheezy backports and had some issues with screen freezes playing video's and pixilated images, I uninstalled vlc backports and installed stable and all fixed, is this something I could report to someone somewhere if it's of any help?
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