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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-08-31

---Logopened Sun Aug 31 00:00:41 2014
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00:47<WangDang>themill: OK, thanks. I'm currently editting my script session down to the interesting parts (removing control characters, etc). btw, what does bat stand for. Nothing in what dpkg told me seems to fit into that acronym
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00:48<themill>"basic apt-get troubleshooting"
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01:13<WangDang>themill: it's getting late here. I'm not going to be able to finish before I need to goto sleep. I'll have to ask again tomorrow. Aside from the fact that it lacked real output, was any of my original question useful? U know just to make it better for when I come back to morrow
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04:45<spippi>ciao
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07:24<YamakasY>hi guys
07:24<YamakasY>where are dependencies of a packages checked before it installs ?
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07:32<tdi>YamakasY: apt-cache show package will give you some info
07:33<tdi>YamakasY: but this is not _exactly_ what will be installed along with your package.
07:33<tdi>it depends what dependencies the dependencies have
07:33<YamakasY>tdi: yeah building some package but it complains it needs libtomcat6 and 7 is installed and there is not dependency at all
07:34<tdi>YamakasY: these are build dens
07:34<tdi>deps*
07:34<tdi>YamakasY: apt-get build-dep package
07:34<tdi>these are deps needed for the package to be built
07:34<tdi>not installed
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07:35<YamakasY>tdi: no the build goes well, the install after it not
07:35<YamakasY>:D
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07:35<abrotman>show us .. paste.debian.net
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07:36<tdi>YamakasY: what is the package
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07:38<YamakasY>tdi: I'm building red5-server 1.0.3
07:38<YamakasY>I build 1.0.2 in the past very well
07:39<dimitris_>hi, how can i force evdev ignore a device (mousepad) ?
07:40<tdi>YamakasY: in the official debian package I can see that it Depends on libtomcat6-java (>= 6.0.20-7)
07:41<YamakasY>tdi: yes, but I changed that to 7
07:41<abrotman>you changed?
07:41<YamakasY>tdi: btw, have you checked the control fole ?
07:41<YamakasY>*file ?
07:41<tdi>YamakasY: yes I checked in control file
07:42<tdi>YamakasY: if there is libtomcat6-java - it is for a reason
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07:42<tdi>will the package work with tomcat 7 ?
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07:42<abrotman>YamakasY: how did you "change" this?
07:43<YamakasY>abrotman: hellow my friend :)
07:44<abrotman>...
07:44<YamakasY>abrotman: took the source, changed it in the control file and did dpkg -b red5-server-1.0.3-RELEASE/ red5-server-1.0.3.deb
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07:45<YamakasY>abrotman: you are always there for good answers just at once
07:45<tdi>YamakasY: will red5 1.0.3 work with java 7 ?
07:45<abrotman>YamakasY: and when you 'dpkg -I red5-server-1.0.3.deb' .. what does it say ?
07:45<YamakasY>tdi: you too btw :)
07:45<YamakasY>tdi: it should, I have it running on a centos machine
07:45<YamakasY>abrotman: that it needs libtomcat6-java
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07:46<tdi>YamakasY: so just install libtomcat7-java and _after_ that your custom red5 package
07:46<abrotman>sounds like you didn't do it correctly
07:46<tdi>dpkg will not pull deps
07:46<dpkg>tdi: no idea
07:46<YamakasY>haha
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07:46<YamakasY>I have the feeling that 7 is much faster than 6
07:46<YamakasY>so
07:47<abrotman>the package hasn't been built correctly it sounds like
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07:49<YamakasY>abrotman: ok, so this is what I did in the past, what should I do ?
07:50<qwerty>'apt-get -f install' perhaps ?
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07:51<YamakasY>qwerty: no, the issue is I puppetize this machine
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07:52*abrotman doesn't see what puppet has to do with it
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07:53<YamakasY>abrotman: I don't want to force, so -f is justa temp fix which is not the case actually
07:54<abrotman>YamakasY: show us 'dpkg -I foo.deb ; dpkg -i foo.deb'
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08:05<YamakasY>abrotman: created a new package, same issue but... dpkg -i goes well, -I gives: http://pastebin.com/ebkgruQK
08:06<abrotman>that's not dpkg -i .. not sure what the problem is
08:06<YamakasY>abrotman: that is -I
08:06<abrotman>...
08:07<YamakasY>-i just installs
08:07<abrotman>problem solved
08:07<YamakasY>abrotman: but not using puppet, it complains about that java lib package
08:08<abrotman>so pre-install it or setup your own apt repo
08:09<YamakasY>this is my own repo
08:09<YamakasY>but I think it get's the default 1.0 version instead of 1.0.3
08:09<YamakasY>which is my package
08:11<YamakasY>need to figure out how to set priority
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08:18<aantoon>hello, i am using the rt73usb wireless driver in debian 7.6 i can connect to internet but i can't ping or get any webpages, what can be wrong?
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08:18<Brigo>aantoon, the dns
08:18<Brigo>and it is no driver related
08:20<aantoon>yes that's what i'm thinking, i have fresh install and it came with networkmanager and i have no idea how to deal with thatm can you help me
08:21<aantoon>Brigo sorry forgot to put your name infront
08:22<Brigo>paste /etc/resolv.conf
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08:22<abrotman>or test it 'dig www.google.com @8.8.8.8'
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08:23<Brigo>abrotman, interesting i did not know it .
08:23<YamakasY>abrotman: done :)
08:23<YamakasY>thanks
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08:24<sakax>why is chromium 2 versions behind in stable repositories?
08:24<sakax>do we have to worry? :)
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08:25<dark-jedi>sakax: Because chromium is the testbed that Google Chrome is built on.
08:25<sakax>dark;
08:25<sakax>dark-jedi: what?
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08:25<abrotman>dpkg: tell sakax about chromium
08:26<sakax>chromium is always used same release cycle
08:26<sakax>i know chromium
08:26<sakax>release versions chome and chromium were always the same
08:26<dark-jedi>sakax: The line generally follows chromium -> google-chrome-stable -> google-chrome-beta -> google-chrome-unstable with stable, beta, and unstable being one version apart. And chromium follows google-chrome-stable
08:27<sakax>i know but that's the issue... chromium doesnt follow google chrome stable anymore
08:27<sakax>chromium for wheezy is stuck on v35
08:27<sakax>google chrome stable is now at v37
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08:28<dark-jedi>That is odd
08:28<spippi>ciao
08:28<sakax>yes, it seems like chromium isnt updated anymore for wheezy
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08:28<aantoon>Brigo ok that's on a other machine , it say nameserver 195.130.130.134 and 195.130.131.134, domain telenet
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08:29<Brigo>aantoon, and the abrotman check: dig www.google.com @8.8.8.8 ?
08:29<abrotman>(just make sure it's not a route problem)
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08:31<aantoon>Brigo it can ping 8.8.8.8 with 90% package lost
08:32<Brigo>aantoon, are you far away your ap?
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08:33<aantoon>Brigo I have 21 machines the one i am using now on irc is 1m apart from the other
08:33<aantoon>Brigo i mean 2 machines no 21
08:34<abrotman>I didn't ask about ping?
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08:34<Brigo>he told he can ping but no acces to web ...
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08:35<Brigo>aantoon, and the one we are troubleshooting?
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08:36<aantoon>Brigo thats the one 1m (on the same table)
08:38<aantoon>Brigo, i don't get it i just checked and this machine (the one with no problems) has the same dns in sesolv.conf and working fine
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08:39<Brigo>aantoon, 90% package lost, mean you have a network problem, then.
08:39<Brigo>aantoon, and yes, it can be the driver.
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08:41<aantoon>Brigo it must be driver related what next?
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08:42<Brigo>aantoon, not sure, search for a bug in the debian bug database or in the kernel database.
08:42<Brigo>or in google, of course
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08:43<aantoon>Brigo done that
08:43<Brigo>and you find nothing.
08:44<qwerty>am i disconnected cuz i use som1 else's nickname ? i'm new to this
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08:45<abrotman>qwerty: you're having network problems
08:45<wompa>qwerty, qyou are still here
08:45<Brigo>aantoon, you can try newer kernel
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08:46<Brigo>aantoon, sorry, i must go.
08:46<abrotman>aantoon: what is 'uname -r' ?
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08:47<aantoon>3.2.0-4-486
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08:48<abrotman>dpkg: tell aantoon about bdo kernel
08:48<abrotman>aantoon: try that, ask here if you need more help
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08:51<aantoon>abrotman how can i install a new kernel without internet?
08:52<Marillion>aantoon: and how you are here?
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08:52<Marillion>aantoon: with a bike?
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08:54<Marillion>aantoon: download the packages and put on usb-stick and install that, or what you prefer
08:54<aantoon>abrotman, the whole point in getting the wireless working is to finish the debian install. I have two machines one (grrrrr)ubuntu with i am using on irc (told that befor)
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08:54<aantoon>Marillion, no bike and not funny
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08:58<Marillion>aantoon: i apologize, sometimes it is NOT funny when people asking stupid question
09:01<aantoon>Marillion, is that not the whole point of this channel? to help people who don't know as much as you do? to help people with stupid questions?
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09:06<Marillion>aantoon: you said "...without internet" in this point is stupid, no, we are helping everyone and you
09:07<Marillion>aantoon: most people are over ten years ago here, and we are read the same question, and we are helping again
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09:08<abrotman>aantoon: wired?
09:08<abrotman>Marillion: please stop
09:10<aantoon>abrotman, i am in belgium, not my home country and i am using a hotspot internet with logins from a friend
09:10<Marillion>abrotman: ok, no problem anymore
09:10<abrotman>aantoon: Do you know Rube Goldberg? :)
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09:11<abrotman>aantoon: get the kernel and dependencies on a working system, install them on your system with a USB drive
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09:11<aantoon>abrotman, Rube Goldberg? no who is she?
09:12<abrotman>aantoon: Google for reference .. anyway, do you have a USB drive available to you?
09:12<abrotman>a thumb drive or flash drive
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09:13<aantoon>abrotman, yes i have i am looking for the kernel now
09:14<abrotman>aantoon: packages.debian.org has links .. let me see if I can help
09:14<abrotman>https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/kernel/
09:15<abrotman>you'll have to grab the depenencies .. IIRC initramfs-tools is one of them (also in wheezy-backports)
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09:17<aantoon>abrotman, that is a long list
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09:18<abrotman>aantoon: you get hte kernel you need .. I don't know what type of computer you have, so I oculdn't be more specific
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09:21<Marillion>abrotman, aantoon : please don't understand me wrong, i'm NOT here for the dog fight, i'm a friend to say hello
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09:22<abrotman>Hiya
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09:25<aantoon>abrotman, i have a dell, pentium 4 2.80gh.z 1gb mem so i think its a 32bit but looking at the list there are like a ton of images to chose from i have absolutely no idea what i need
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09:27*Marillion ....looking for files with they end with -686
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09:38<Marillion>aantoon: i think you can try/install https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae and look likes these dependencies
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09:39<Marillion>download that, dpkg -i can control that for you
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09:45<oz123>hi guys, I was wondering what is the meaning of '%:' in debian rules file, can some one give me a hint on that?
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09:46<aantoon>depends on linux-compiler-gcc-4.6-x86 witch depends on gcc-4.6 witch depends on like 20 other packages and dependency hell. i did this before a few years back
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09:48<themill>oz123: % is a wildcard
09:48<oz123>themill, i see that also in wikipedia, but what does it mean? it means that dh is matching the file name?
09:48<Marillion>aantoon: i know it is a hard way, but i have no idea what you could better without internet as well
09:50<themill>oz123: you can make targets that are not filenames -- "make clean" for instance. See policy §4.9 for the standard targets that debian/rules satisfies
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09:56<aantoon>thing is, it is a very old wireless usb dongle, i just don't think a new kernel is going to solve the problem.
09:57<aantoon>i rather use a cross-link cable from one machine to the other and try to get internet using one as a server
09:57<abrotman>aantoon: the dependencies hsouldn't be that bad
09:58<Marillion>aantoon: some drivers are will be upgrade by the kernel-maintainer like backport, it is possible that driver comes with new
09:59<abrotman>aantoon: it could also be an update in a newer subsystem
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09:59<aantoon>abrotman, ok i do it, i'll try it
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10:02<Marillion>aantoon: do it or do NOT, there is no try :)
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10:16<aantoon>so i tried apt-get install --print -uris package and i get "print is not understood"
10:18<themill>it's one option
10:18<abrotman>aantoon: --print-uris .. no space
10:18<aantoon>abrotman, oops..
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10:21<aantoon>abrotman, could'd find package...eh where do i put it? in var/cache/apt/archive??
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10:22<abrotman>Couldn't find what package?
10:22<abrotman>the one you downloaded?
10:22<abrotman>you're just printing URLs
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10:25<aantoon>abrotman, can not find the one i downloaded and it is right there on my desktop
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10:29<abrotman>cannot find with what?
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10:30<aantoon>linux-headers-3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae_3.14.12-1~bpo70+1_i386.deb and it is there on my desktop
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10:31<abrotman>what do you mean you can't find it?
10:31<abrotman>how are you searching?
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10:33<aantoon>i want to get a list of dependencies
10:33<aantoon>so the whole command was apt-get install --print-uris linux-headers-3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae_3.14.12-1~bpo70+1_i386.deb as root and it responds "can not find"
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10:35<abrotman>aantoon: no .. you want dpkg -I foo.deb
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10:41<aantoon>that dos not give a list of url's to download from, i was following http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/27100/how-to-install-kernel-on-debian-with-no-internet-connection
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10:49<aantoon>abrotman, that dos not give a list of url's to download from, i was following http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/27100/how-to-install-kernel-on-debian-with-no-internet-connection
10:49<abrotman>aantoon: use dpkg -I foo.deb to get the list of packages
10:49<abrotman>aantoon: you can't use the --print-uris from the busted box because it doens't know about wheezy-backports as a repo
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10:50<abrotman>aantoon: copy the .deb to your affected box .. attempt to install it .. see what packages it asks for
10:50<abrotman>then use the working computer to grab those
10:51<aantoon>hmm i see
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10:55<aantoon>abrotman, dpkg -I foo.deb linux-headers-3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae_3.14.12-1~bpo70+1_i386.de failed to read foo.deb no such file bla
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10:57<Marillion>aantoon: all files ending as .deb as well, copy&paste issue?
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11:02<aantoon>Marillion, i think so it just say dpkg-deb: error: failed to read archive 'foo.deb': no such file or directory
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11:05<oznt>hi everyone, can some one help me understand why I am failing to build a debian package? http://paste.debian.net/118573/
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11:06<oznt>I would really appreciate it if someone looked at it, the error seems quite easy to understand , but I don't understand how to modify my rules file so that the direcotory is created
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11:07<Marillion>aantoon: make sure your package(s) is in right path or give dpkg the fullpath as well
11:07<oznt>and one more thing, creating and empty dir, does override the error ...
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11:08<aantoon>Marillion, pwd /home/john/Desktop and that is where the file is
11:09<Marillion>aantoon: and now dpkg -i /home/john/Desktop/foo.deb is the fullpath
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11:12<aantoon>Marillion, it is driving me nuts already "dpkg-deb: error: failed to read archive '/home/john/Desktop/foo.deb': no such file or directory"
11:12<abrotman>aantoon: Start with the linux-image .. I can already tell you that
11:12<abrotman>aantoon: 'foo.deb' is an example
11:12<aantoon>haha i get it
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11:15<supaplex_>We all know how desirable foo.deb is. Don't diss it. You know you want it.
11:17<roshanavand>hi, I just set up postfix+dovecot
11:17<roshanavand>I receive mail on the server, but can't see them in my imap inbox
11:18<roshanavand>my postfix virtual_mailbox_base is /home/vmail
11:18<roshanavand>and dovecot mail_home = /home/vmail/%d/%u
11:18<oznt>how can i create the debian archive needed for packaging (i mean software_name_version.tar.xz) is there a debhelper command for that which archives the debian directory for me?
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11:26<abrotman>aantoon: doing okay over there?
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11:33<aantoon>abrotman, it installed all dependencies fine but gave a make error http://pastebin.com/GjEmn7hr
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11:41<abrotman>a make error?
11:42<abrotman>aantoon: do you use open-vm-tools ?
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11:47<aantoon>abrotman, huh? i don't know, its a fresh install
11:47<aantoon>abrotman, do you mean virtual machine? well no, just a fresh install
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11:54<aantoon>abrotman, i just did a "locate open-vm-tools" and it gave me a huge list but i assure you i did not install it
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12:19<aantoon>abrotman, shall we surrender?
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12:34<inkbottle>Hi, is there a default "compose" key (the one described on wikipedia viz. Shift followed by AltGr is not recognized as different from AltGr followed by Shift on my computer (perhaps keyboard dependent)
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12:39<aantoon>abrotman, are you still here?
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13:45<che___>Hello could somebody explain me how to install grub on macbook so it would work corrctly? i am trying to use triple boot osx, debian 7.6 and win 7
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13:46<che___>it looks like everytime it messes up windows bootloader
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13:56<acald3ron>how to play mp4 files ?
13:57<mberends>VLC Media Player
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14:06<qwk>for some reason while im trying to install things via apt I get this error: pastebin.com/8YdtDYAP Notice I have updated my kernel to 3.14.12 grsecurity
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14:09<Marillion>qwk: mprotect() is the problem for grub
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14:10<Marillion>load your old kernel or fix that
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14:10<ncl>qwk: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Grsecurity/Application-specific_Settings#Grub
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14:15<RalfJ>Hey - on one of my wheezy installations, apticron reports that some packages can be upgrade (<http://paste.debian.net/118609/>), but these packages are either at their latest version or not even installed. how can that be?
14:16<RalfJ>actually, none of these packages is installed
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14:22<qwk>I got a diffrent problam on a another machine: http://pastebin.com/c1Xrnmq8 I have tried apt-get remove --purge tor and apt-get -f install
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14:25<jalalsfs>qwk, Try to stop 'tor' then remove it.
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14:27<qwk>jalalsfs, its seems like it isnt running, I have done killall tor "no process found" and ps aux | grep tor
14:28<jalalsfs>service top stop && service top status
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14:30<itsthejanandonly>q
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14:30<qwk>Ah, I figured it out, I dl'd it before I had add deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org to source.list so I had to uncomment that one
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14:33<qwk>or why did I said that, its not working
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14:34<qwk>service top stop && service top status
14:34<qwk>bash: service: command not found
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14:34<qwk>did u mean tor?
14:34<jalalsfs>yes
14:34<jalalsfs>sorry
14:35<qwk>Stopping tor daemon...failed (/usr/bin/tor died: process 19266 not running; or permission denied).
14:35<blast007>if tor is not running, perhaps a defunct pid file at /var/run/tor/tor.pid ?
14:35<jalalsfs>qwk, Are you as a root?
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14:36<qwk>i wasnt but i su'd to root
14:36<qwk>and still got the same output
14:37<jalalsfs>How about, which tor
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14:38<zerobyte> /nickserv register takedown keneth.handerson@gmail.com
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14:38<blast007>zerobyte: if you use that password elsewhere, now would be a good time to change it
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14:40<jalalsfs>qwk, Have you try to clean apt?
14:40<qwk>clean apt?
14:40<blast007>qwk: again, if tor really isn't running, it's probably just a leftover pid file
14:41<jalalsfs>apt-get autoremove && apt-get remove && apt-get autoclean && apt-get clean
14:41<blast007>so move that pid file out of the way (or delete it) and then try the apt-get action you're attempting again
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14:42<jalalsfs>blast007, Do you mean from /proc ?
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14:42<blast007>no, I mean from where I mentioned it above. < blast007> if tor is not running, perhaps a defunct pid file at /var/run/tor/tor.pid ?
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14:44<qwk>alright, I did apt-get clean ~~ and then tried apt-get remove --purge
14:44<qwk>http://pastebin.com/NyL8RwEL
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14:44<qwk>blast007, what should i to with the tor.pid ?
14:44<qwk>just remove it ?
14:45<blast007>please read my message again
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14:46<jalalsfs>qwk, Yes, just delete the file.
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14:49<qwk>okay, that seem to do the work, thanks
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14:57<shirish>hi all, is there a bash equivalent to df -h ?
14:58<Riviera>no
14:58<shirish>Riviera: nothing similar at all ?
14:58<blast007>shirish: what are you trying to accomplish?
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14:59<shirish>blast007: I have a friend who has only bash shell (he's on MS-Windows) and trying to figure out how much space is in the partition via shell.
14:59<blast007>well, that's not a debian question then
15:00<shirish>blast007: I know but it's bash and people probably know if there is something equivalent/similar in bash.
15:00<blast007>This channel only supports Debian.
15:02<shirish>blast007: o.k. can you recommend any channel which will help my friend ?
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15:03<centrx>shirish, df is a Linux program
15:03<blast007>maybe ##windows on Freenode, as it's not even bash related (you'd just want some command line tool to get you that info)
15:03<shirish>centrx: I know,
15:03<shirish>blast007: correct.
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15:03<centrx>#cygwin or #mingw32 wherever they are maybe
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15:04<shirish>centrx: thanx.
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15:09<casper366>is there a way to sort fields with awk http://pastebin.com/n9an5jQf
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15:22<nitestryker>i could use some help if anyone has time to look at a log of mine
15:23<Spidernet>nitestryker: yh
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15:23<devil>nitestryker: ask your question
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15:24<nitestryker>devil: hold on a sec i am sending something to a pastebin
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15:26<astronut>Somehow, i rebooted and my initramfs isn't attempting to decrypt my LUKS volume that has the root filesystem on it (on LVM)
15:26<astronut>i chroot'd in form a live cd and tried to rebuild the initramfs, no dice. is there a setting i need to look for to make sure the crypttab gets propogated in?
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15:28<nitestryker>so i am trying to install gnupg and i get i am getting this error http://paste.debian.net/118620/
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15:29<devil>nitestryker: the prob is with idedove
15:29<Spidernet>nitestryker: have you tried " apt-get -f install "
15:30<nitestryker>yes
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15:30<devil>nitestryker: a dirty workaround is to edit the postinst of icedove
15:30<nitestryker>I get the same error when i do force
15:30<nitestryker>lol i rather no do dirty work
15:31<nitestryker>maybe i should just uninstall icedove
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15:31<nitestryker>i wonder if other people have had this problem
15:31<devil>no idea, I run sid
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15:32<nitestryker>its sucks because i have my icedove all setup with several email accounts
15:32<devil>nitestryker: you could give dpkg-reconfigure icedove a try
15:32<devil>nitestryker: the accounts don't go away
15:32<nitestryker>yeah let me give that shot
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15:33<nitestryker>/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: icedove is broken or not fully installed
15:33<nitestryker>lol
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15:34<astronut>try creating that directory
15:34<Spidernet>nitestryker: kind of a dependency problem. check to see if your sources.list involve development packages
15:34<astronut>it looks like it's trying to remove it, so give it an empty directory to remove
15:34<nitestryker>well i am willing to try another email client as long as it has encryption
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15:35<devil>nitestryker: why give up a perfectly fine app just because the packaging is crappy?
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15:36<devil>just skip the postinst and remove the edit after the app is installed
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15:37<devil>or wait until fixed
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15:37<nitestryker>i'm not giving up i like icedove because it has the torbirdy plugin
15:37<nitestryker>and the email provider i am using has a onion address
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15:39<qwk>for some reason tor wont start, "tor is not running ... failed!" I dont have any tor.pid this time, it may be the problem?
15:39<devil>qwk: wrong place to ask :)
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15:41<astronut>ok, i got my issue fixed, but that was really weird. had to make the exact same mounting in the rescue environment before regenerating it. still not sure how it broke in the first place
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15:42<ScabbyMadman>Hi. I am trying to get mtp working for my phone on Wheezy --seems I need to install gvfs-1.16 or better but how do I do that?
15:42<devil>ScabbyMadman: is there a backport?
15:43<ScabbyMadman>I do not know I added backports but nothing changes in terms of package availability for gvfs
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15:44<devil>ScabbyMadman: testing has 1.20.2-1
15:44<ScabbyMadman>devil so do I just add the repo and should see the choice for a later gvfs?
15:45<devil>after apt-get update yes. apt-cache policy gvfs will show all available versions permitted by your sources
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15:45<blast007>ScabbyMadman: don't install binary packages from testing on your wheezy
15:45<devil>ScabbyMadman: be careful though mixing stable and testing
15:45<nitestryker>thanks for the help
15:46<nitestryker>I will try those suggestions
15:46<ScabbyMadman>ok Ill check my work because I did add the testing repo but maybe ...
15:46<blast007>!tell ScabbyMadman about ssb
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15:46<ScabbyMadman>blast007 so build from source then ?
15:47<devil>ScabbyMadman: when mixing different repos you need to know a lot about dependencies and related stuff
15:47<blast007>!frankendebian
15:47<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
15:48<ScabbyMadman>blast007 yes so I have come to realize....thats why I left slackware after 10 years of loyalty and the end of its support for gnome
15:48<ScabbyMadman>:(
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15:49<ScabbyMadman>slackware became very frakenstien
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15:50<ScabbyMadman>is jessie stable enough ?
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15:54<sakax>jessie is testing
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15:55<ScabbyMadman>Yes I gathered that jessie was the leading edge but wondered if there was a general opinion as to jessies stability
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15:56<devil>ScabbyMadman: in #debian-next you might get more opinions on the subject
15:56<ScabbyMadman>aye thanks devil
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16:01<qwk>okay, I have messed up again with tor, http://pastebin.com/6B1F6CV4
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16:02<qwk>tor.pid
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16:04<qwk>ah locate didnt find tor.pid but was able to remove it
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16:05<blast007>locate only finds things in the database (so you'd have to update the locate database before it would find newly created files)
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16:22<nitestryker>my ducky is upside down
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16:26<nitestryker>http://imgur.com/ZFvNBiY
16:26<nitestryker>hehe
16:27<shirish>how does one authenticate via git to github (via CLI.)
16:27<nitestryker>what for?
16:28<nitestryker>i use github
16:28<nitestryker>what are you working on?
16:28<shirish>nitestryker: just so to know that my private key and public key are working properly.
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16:29<DrZaius>how a package has a depend: one|two|three which one is installed by default?
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16:30<nitestryker>shirish, have you looked at the github API?
16:31<shirish>nitestryker: nope, I know it's a simple command or something, nothing to do with the API.
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16:32<faheem_>DrZaius: the first one that is available, reading from left to right.
16:32<shirish>nitestryker: this is the command I was actually trying for ssh -T git@github.com
16:32<DrZaius>faheem_: the order matter then. thanks!
16:33<faheem_>DrZaius: certainly
16:33<faheem_>shirish: github ssh auth?
16:33<shirish>faheem_: yes, that is what I was looking at.
16:34<jmcnaught>shirish: https://help.github.com/categories/56/articles
16:34<nitestryker>did you generate a key and add it to github?
16:35<nitestryker>ssh key
16:35<nitestryker>https://github.com/settings/ssh
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16:38<nitestryker>shirish, ssh -T -p 443 git@ssh.github.com
16:38<nitestryker>test that
16:38<qwk>I have problem start tor hidden service, I think it has something to do with the user, how do I fix it? https://ghostbin.com/paste/h8wy9
16:38<shirish>nitestryker: umm.... gimme a few minutes, thank you for sharing that though.
16:38*ilk gives shirish
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16:40<nitestryker>shirish, ssh -vT username@github.com
16:41<nitestryker>i think maybe your don't have the matching SSH key on your github and computer
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16:43<nitestryker>shirish, start the SSH agent in the background with this comand eval "$(ssh-agent -s)"
16:43<shirish>nitestryker: should I be giving this command before generating the keypair or after ?
16:43<nitestryker>shirish, Enter ssh-add -l and take note of the resulting fingerprint:
16:44<nitestryker>Compare the list of SSH keys with the output from ssh-add -l.
16:44<nitestryker>on your github account
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16:45<shirish>nitestryker: after I give ssh-add -l it says "The agent has no identities."
16:45<nitestryker>you need to run this command and generate an ssh key
16:45<nitestryker>ssh-keygen -t rsa -C "your_email@example.com"
16:46<nitestryker>after that do this --> eval "$(ssh-agent -s)"
16:47<nitestryker>sudo apt-get install xclip
16:47<nitestryker># Downloads and installs xclip. If you don't have `apt-get`, you might need to use another installer (like `yum`)
16:47<nitestryker>xclip -sel clip < ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
16:47<nitestryker># Copies the contents of the id_rsa.pub file to your clipboard
16:47-!-nitestryker was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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16:47*petn-randall urges nitestryker to actually read the topic.
16:47<nitestryker>I understand
16:47<nitestryker>thank you
16:47<nitestryker>my bad
16:47<jmcnaught>dpkg: tell nitestryker -about enter
16:48<petn-randall>no problem
16:48<nitestryker>shirish, we need to go to #debian-offtopic if you want to continue this convo
16:48<jmcnaught>shirish: https://help.github.com/articles/generating-ssh-keys the instructions are here (linked to from the general ssh github help page i posted above). If you're having trouble with it, contacting Github for support is probably a better place to do it
16:48<shirish>nitestryker: o.k. I'm there.
16:48<nitestryker>ok
16:49<shirish>nitestryker: just ping me when there.
16:49<petn-randall>nitestryker: I was referring to the "NO FLOOD" part, not necessarily if you're off- or on-topic.
16:50<jmcnaught>nitestryker: shirish: #debian-offtopic isn't for support, it's for being social and talking about the weather
16:51<AzaToth>I'm trying to update skype (they did a no use old version anymore to login), but I've trouble with libmp3lame0:i386 (one patch number diff from amd64)
16:51<nitestryker>ok well this is really off-topic anywatys
16:51<AzaToth>what can I do?
16:51<nitestryker>we can go into a private chan
16:51<shirish>jmcnaught: please give us some breathing space.
16:51<nitestryker>not problem
16:51<devil>AzaToth: wait a bit, should be fine in an hour
16:51<AzaToth>devil: ok
16:51<devil>AzaToth: there is an updatev in incoming
16:52<AzaToth>nice
16:52<jmcnaught>shirish: what i'm saying is that this channel is more appropriate than -offtopic. but if you're having trouble connecting to github, they're probably the ones to contact
16:52<AzaToth>blody skype not supplying amd64 debs :-P
16:52<qwk>Anyone know whats wrong? https://ghostbin.com/paste/368sr
16:52<devil>AzaToth: I switched to google hangouts cause the new skype did not work solid here
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16:52<shirish>jmcnaught: I don't think it's problem connecting with github, I am trying to familiarize myself with the process.
16:53<AzaToth>haven't used google hangouts (talk) since it crashed eclipse for me
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16:53<nitestryker>well its not going to connect if you dont have a matching SSH key
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16:56<faheem_>shirish: i assume there is a #github channel.
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16:58<nitestryker>lol
16:58<nitestryker>of course
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17:24<faheem_>/ faheem listening to Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis
17:25<jmcnaught>now this is something that actually does belong in #debian-offtopic
17:25<faheem_>jmcnaught: :-)
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17:26<faheem_>can't even use the /me command correctly.
17:26<nitestryker>lol
17:26<centrx>woe is thee
17:26*nitestryker can
17:26<Guest1069>#join openpandora
17:26<faheem_>nitestryker: good for you
17:27<bikerr>Hey, there are some problems with debian (testing) or 3.14 on a hp probook 650, given certain restrictions i have to install linux on a usb stick and have it boot from there, stable, 7.5 works like a charm, except wifi drivers are missing, on 3.14 (testing) it failed to install grub when using a logical (second) partition, which for some reason stable just ate and worked with. but, on testing, grub goes bonkers, cant even find the confi
17:27<bikerr>guration files , if i install 3.14 on stable, it fails to find (usb)disk/key, citing the blockid
17:28<Maulkin>bikerr: Try #debian-next
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17:28<bikerr>kk thanks Maulkin
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18:11<kowa>Hi, I'm trying to configure a debian web server to use a static IP, behind a broadband modem router .... I edited /etc/network/interfaces to set up static IP, and did service networking restart, but it's not taking effect - here's a pastebin of the config file and of ifconfig output: http://pastebin.com/NEXgbDR9
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18:14<pfsense_rookie>kowa, according to Debian documentation you should use "service networking stop; service networking start" instead. I had that happen to me as well.
18:15<kowa>pfsense_rookie, Thanks, but I just tried that and it didn't work either (same result). Any other suggestions?
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18:15<pfsense_rookie>Alternatively, you can bring the interface down and then again with ifup <interface> or ifdown <interface>, but the one I mentioned before is the preferable method.
18:15<kowa>I had already tried ifdown/up before coming here as well
18:15<pfsense_rookie>How are you checking your current IP address?
18:15<kowa>ifconfig
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18:16<pfsense_rookie>Are you using network manager?
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18:16<kowa>yes
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18:16<kowa>do I have to set it in both places?
18:16<pfsense_rookie>I'll need to see the /etc/network/interfaces file. On pastebin, please.
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18:16<kowa>It's on the pastebin file in the post above
18:16<kowa>http://pastebin.com/NEXgbDR9
18:17<pfsense_rookie>kowa, you can opt for one of them. Normally it's best to configure through network-manager if you use more than one network.
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18:17<wompa>kowa, can you even use that ip address in your internal network? Isn't your router supposed to route between 64.226.251.110 and an internal network such as 192.168.*.*?
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18:18<wompa>kowa, you should not use both interfaces file and network manager for the same interface
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18:27<abrotman>aantoon: figure it out ?
18:27<kowa>pfsense_rookie, Sorry - I got disconnected while experimenting with network-manager and whatnot. Since all I have is eth0, I've just disabled network-manager altogether so it won't interfere.
18:27<kowa>But /etc/network/interfaces still isn't taking effect
18:27<kowa>the last comment I saw from you was "kowa, you can opt for one of them. Normally it's best to configure through network-manager if you use more than one network."
18:28<pfsense_rookie>kowa, that was my last message. I noticed you loging out. What IP do you have now?
18:28<kowa>192.168.0.17
18:29<kowa>(assigned by the router via dhcp)
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18:29<wompa>kowa, can you even use that ip address in your internal network? Isn't your router supposed to route between 64.226.251.110 and an internal network such as 192.168.*.*? You should not use both interfaces file and network manager for the same interface. If you won't login to the desktop very often I'd recommend the interfaces file only.
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18:30<pfsense_rookie>kowa, you really shouldn't be using that external ip range, gateway and address on your internal network as wompa is saying.
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18:31<pfsense_rookie>kowa, is there a purpose for this?
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18:31<kowa>Yes - I'm trying to run a web server (for a radio dj program called "Airtime") for a community radio station. The server is running on a home network behind a broadband modem/router
18:33<pfsense_rookie>Well, it's best if you just forward the ports later on your modem/router and just use a normal internal ip
18:34<kowa>Centurylink will not allow me to do this. They filter any traffic that is destined for servers on the internal network. Their website (and tech support) said that you must purchase a static IP if you wish to run a server on the network
18:34<pfsense_rookie>kowa, ah that's nonsence.
18:34<pfsense_rookie>Is the modem/router capable of forwarding ports or not?
18:35<kowa>I tried, before purchasing the IPs, to just use port forwarding, and the server was not reachable (nmap showed all of the ports as filtered)
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18:36<kowa>from their FAQ: "If you lease a single static IP address, it only provides a public IP address to the modem. If you need a public IP address on a device behind your high-speed Internet modem, you will need to purchase a block of IP addresses."
18:36<pfsense_rookie>kowa, well I may try to help you with that. I am not familiar with your ISP or ISP's modem though. Let's sort Debian's addressing first.
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18:38<pfsense_rookie>kowa, for simple deployments you register on DynDNS or no-ip(DDNS service providers) and you get a hostname like <example>.<domain> and then you just run a client on the internal network to update that hostname without the external IP of your router/modem.
18:39<pfsense_rookie>kowa, if your modem/router allows port forwarding or DMZ.
18:39<kowa>Yes, I am familiar with DynDNS, but like I said, CenturyLink will filter the traffic
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18:40<kowa>I had tried both port forwarding and DMZ - it just says that the traffic is filtered. Centurylink is open about the fact that the reason it is filtered is because they are filtering it
18:40<kowa>The only way that they will allow you to run a server behind the modem is by purchasing a block of static IPs and using one of them for the device that you want reachable from outside
18:41<kowa>But they do not have any instructions for how to set it up on linux - only for mac windows
18:42<pfsense_rookie>kowa, here is an example of /etc/network/interfaces of a production server I am running http://pastebin.com/VL3RPRKn.
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18:44<pfsense_rookie>kowa, you may want to ping some external servers in order to make sure that DNS is working fine.
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18:44<merrrr>I've shared an external disk with samba, but when I attempt to put files on it from another computer I get a permissions error.
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18:48<merrrr>The changes I made to smb.conf are: workgroup = [my workgroup], security = user, [MyBook], comment = external disk, path = /media/MyBook, browsable = yes, guest ok = no, read only = no, create mask = 0664
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18:49<pfsense_rookie>kowa, any progress?
18:49<pfsense_rookie>merrrr, what's the output of ls -la /media/Mybook?
18:50<merrrr>lost+found
18:50<pfsense_rookie>sorry I meant /media/
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18:51<merrrr>cd ..
18:52<merrrr>total 12
18:52<merrrr>drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Aug 31 12:59 .
18:52<merrrr>drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 May 9 14:50 ..
18:52<merrrr>drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Aug 31 12:41 MyBook
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18:53<pfsense_rookie>merrrr, personally I believe that system is a bit touchy with sharing files from the /media/ directory, mainly because the directory is owned by root.
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18:54<pfsense_rookie>merrrr, meaning that if you login with someone other than root through samba(good practise) you will get on read permission ( the "4" part of the create mask = 0664).
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18:54<pfsense_rookie>only instead of on.
18:55<merrrr>I read that the 3rd digit is anyone else on the system, the 2nd digit is group members, and 1st is owner
18:55<pfsense_rookie>well, now that I think of it that should not be an issue. What is an issue is the drwxr-xr-x.
18:56<pfsense_rookie>That create mask is fine.
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18:56<pfsense_rookie>I do not know if it is a good practise, but you could change the the permissions on /media/Mybook to 777
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18:57<merrrr>I just tried mounting in /home/username/MyBook Still getting access denied.
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19:00<merrrr>I have another share - /home/username/shared. I can write to that just fine. "shared" is on the boot disk
19:01<kowa>pfsense_rookie, OK, so I followed the instructions here: http://internethelp.centurylink.com/internethelp/modem-pk5000-setup-static-block-vip.html .... and the modem is now configured to use static IP block, but I'm still having the same issue with /etc/network/interfaces not taking effect
19:02<kowa>... so I'm pretty sure it's not the modem now
19:02<kowa>just so you don't have to scroll up to search for it, here's the pastebin of my /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.com/NEXgbDR9
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19:04<pfsense_rookie>merrrr, you have to tell me the exact command you used to mount the disk to that directory. One thing is that it is better to create the file with the user you will be login with to the share and then mount the disk to that directory as root.
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19:06<wakemaster39>hello all, trying to get pointed in the right direction. Have a new TPlink tl-sg1005D switch. Did a full update today, running jessie. No link light or anything in syslog when I connect to the switch. Everything works fine when connected directly to a tplink router
19:06<pfsense_rookie>kowa, I really don't believe those IP addresses will provide you with an internet connection, but let's try to use those values. Are you still getting an IP address in the 192.... range?
19:06<kowa>yes
19:06<pfsense_rookie>kowa, did you remove and purge network-manager?
19:07<kowa>no, I just stopped the service for now, but I can go ahead and purge it real quick
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19:07<pfsense_rookie>kowa, I believe that network-manager also starts when you do "service networking start".
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19:08<pfsense_rookie>kowa, so they will keep interfering. At least I used that to solve and issue with network-manager and recognizing cables/wi-fi networks.
19:08<kowa>the network manager taskbar icon isn't there, and the service isn't listed as running in ps ... but I'm removing/purging it right now anyway
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19:10<pfsense_rookie>the do "service networking stop; service networking start" and tell us the IP address you have under ifconfig.
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19:10<kowa>done - same IP address (192.168.0.17)
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19:12<pfsense_rookie>Ok, does it output something like bringing down the interface or stopping service? It may be the service that is acting up.
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19:15<pfsense_rookie>kowa, because there is no reason for you getting such an IP other than having overwritten the configuration elsewhere and normally it's just network-manager and the "inet.. dhcp" that saty in the way.
19:16<kowa>sorry - was away trying a few things ... yes, it simply says "[ ok ] (De)Configuring network interfaces...done"
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19:16<pfsense_rookie>Does it say anything about bringing them up?
19:17<kowa>yes, sorry that wasn't clear - the parentheses were meant to mean when I do stop it says deconfiguring, and start it says configuring
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19:19<kowa>Is there anywhere other than /etc/network/interfaces that could be overriding this?
19:19<pfsense_rookie>kowa, did you install other network manager software?
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19:20<kowa>nope - this is a default debian install ... the only things I've installed are chromium xchat and airtime (which includes postgresql and apache)
19:21<kowa>Maybe I should just try rebooting ... don't know why that would change anything, but sometimes it magically fixes things :) ... be right back
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19:27<kowa>pfsense_rookie, Hey - I just rebooted and initially eth0 wasn't up at all. I did ifup eth0 and it worked! ... My only question now is, is there a simple way to make that happen automatically?
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19:29<pfsense_rookie>Did you add the line "auto eth0" before the "inet" entry for eth0 on /etc/network/interfaces ?
19:29<pfsense_rookie>Without the quotes of course.
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19:30<kowa>ah, that's it. Thanks
19:30<pfsense_rookie>kowa, it would probably would have worked with "ifdown eth0;ifup eth0" instead of rebooting.
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19:30<pfsense_rookie>Great! Do you need help with the other stuff as well?
19:31<zerobyte>after installing tor run
19:32<zerobyte>chown debian-tor:debian-tor /var/run/tor
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19:33<kowa>The only thing now is to figure out why when I type the IP for the server into a remote host, it does a redirect to http://localhost/login (which obviously doesn't work from a remote host) ... but I think that's an airtime or apache problem - I can figure that out later (now I can at least work on this via ssh instead of having to be here at the station!)
19:33<kowa>thanks so much for your help with everything
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19:42<merrrr>sudo mount /dev/sdb1 -t ext3 /home/dek/MyBook
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19:42<merrrr>The linux username and the samba username are one and the same.
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19:58<_flip>merrrr: have you created a smb password for the user? I think you have to do that these days
19:59<merrrr>I did. I can rw fine to another share that's on the internal drive.
20:01<_flip>do you have the same samba settings for both shares?
20:01<_flip>other than paths obviously
20:02<merrrr>Yes. [title], comment = , path = , browsable = yes, guest ok = no, read only = no, create mask = 0644
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20:03<_flip>and you can't write to the root of MyBook even after setting permissions to 777?
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20:05<merrrr>Nope.
20:06<merrrr>By set permissions do you mean those of the mount point folder or the create mask?
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20:07<_flip>actual filesystem permission on the folder
20:07<merrrr>drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Aug 31 19:02 MyBook
20:07<_flip>chmod 777 /home/dek/MyBook
20:07<_flip>or wherever you've mounted it
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20:08<merrrr>Setting permissions to wide open (777) lets me write to the drive.
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20:10<[C]hris>I have a question, i'm trying to secure ssh on my western digital live storage device that came pre-installed, after creating a user and adding that user to ssh_config with "AllowUsers chris", restarted sshd and still get the error that chris@myhostname is not listed in AllowUsers. I've also tried "AllowUsers chris@localhost" & "AllowUsers chris@ipaddress" restarted sshd service after each change and no luck
20:11<_flip>yeah ok. What i did was set up a group with access to the mount point
20:11<_flip>so root:mybookgroup and rwxrwxr-x permissions
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20:14<[C]hris>I also dont have access to the last command
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20:20<_flip> [C]hris: don't you mean sshd_config?
20:20<[C]hris>yes i'm sorry
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20:23<[C]hris>maybe its hardcoded?
20:25<_flip>do you have a user chris on the sshd host?
20:25<[C]hris>yes
20:26<[C]hris>i su as the user and made sure the user existed and added them to sudoers and tested sudo all worked
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20:31<_flip>can you post your full sshd_config
20:31<_flip>paste.debian.net
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20:34<[C]hris>i can
20:34<[C]hris>it will look weird
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20:38<[C]hris>one second
20:38<_flip>take a look here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60952/user-denied-ssh-access-while-in-allowusers-list
20:39<[C]hris>well now i'm just getting bad passwd
20:39<[C]hris>lol, nvm it works
20:40<_flip>fat fingers, eh?
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21:19<merrrr>How do I know how an rsync job is going?
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21:21<themill>merrrr: if you started it with various progress reporting options then it might tell you although even then, rsync itself doesn't actually know as it doesn't walk the entire tree first and then start copying files, so it won't actually know the entire size of the job until it has finished.
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21:22<merrrr>I had it move 7GB of files at 9MBps about an hour ago
21:23<merrrr>If I use a "sudo ifconfig" command on the receiving box the byte counter keeps getting reset
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21:25<themill>Can you look at the total size of the transferred set on the remote side?
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21:28<merrrr>How do I do that?
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21:30<_flip>"du" perhaps
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21:31<_flip>or ls if it's a single file
21:31<merrrr>huh. It finished. But about 5x slower than it should have.
21:36<[C]hris>okay how about fixing last it reports: lastlog_openseek: /var/log/lastlog is not a file or directory! just create the file?
21:37<[C]hris>nice created the tmp file worked
21:38<[C]hris>rofl fixed both my issues on my own
21:38<Maulkin>Excellent
21:39<_flip>best way to learn!
21:39<[C]hris>So this device wont let me install packages like screen it says it installs them but then command isnt available
21:39<themill>merrrr: is the network really able to handle 9 megabytes per second?
21:39<[C]hris>I'm assuming i can still compile them from source
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21:43<merrrr>themill: It's 100 Mbps wired Ethernet.
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21:47<interrog>I just got an android phone and I want to load some of the files from my computer to it, but when I connect over USB debian doesnt recongnize the device, what should i do to get them to connect for file transfer?
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21:48<_flip> [C]hris: check your PATH variable?
21:49<themill>merrrr: there are lots of reasons why you won't get the number you want out of that -- lots of small files tend to involve a lot more faffing about by rsync. Spinning rust at either end can even make walking the directory structure slow, someone else doing lots of stuff on the network, a crappy hub somewhere not keeping up etc.
21:50<themill>interrog: you generally need to use mtp these days (or use bluetooth transfer or a 3rd party app like AirDroid on the phone)
21:50<[C]hris>well i get errors processing locales and libc6-ppc64
21:50<merrrr>It's a single .7z PCs are connected to a gigabit switch
21:50<[C]hris>on like every package
21:50<merrrr>interrog: Do you have MTP support installed?
21:52<themill>merrrr: dunno then. Is one of the machines pretty low-spec (a little arm board or something)?
21:52<merrrr>Core 2 Duo 4GB RAM desktop <---> Raspberry Pi
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21:52<interrog>themill, merrrr: i install gmtp, but that didnt really change anything
21:53<themill>merrrr: so it's pretty easy to max out both the CPU for handling the ssh connection and the IO on the pi
21:53<merrrr>samba is faster ><
21:53<interrog>is there a way to ftp the files into the phone?
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21:54<themill>merrrr: so it's probably CPU limited then. There are few ways to reduce the CPU load -- changing ciphers, disabling compression.
21:55<themill>Even still, both the sd card and USB IO on the pi is not that fast.
21:55<merrrr>Time to figure out smbclient
21:57<merrrr>interrog: If you don't mind Wi-Fi speed, AirDroid is one solution.
21:57<interrog>merrrr, ok, thx
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22:01<_flip>merrrr: check cpu usage on pi as you're copying. I've noticed rsync/scp bottlenecking on the cpu before
22:02<_flip>on a raspi
22:02<clarence>how do I uninstall a desktop environment?
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22:04<[C]hris>aptitude remove xserver-xorg xorg xorg-docs-core xorg-sgml-doctools xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core
22:04<[C]hris>something like that clarence
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22:06<clarence>Installed debian old desktop environment whe I was using Woody
22:07<[C]hris>yeah just aptitude search xorg
22:07<merrrr>samba goes at 8.5 MBps while rsync is only 3.4 MBps
22:07<[C]hris>and remove the packages you see installed
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22:07<[C]hris>yeah but if transfer dies in samba can it be picked back up where it left off?
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22:08<_flip>i doubt it [C]hris
22:08<_flip>shouldnt be a problem on a LAN though
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22:46<clarence>Does gpk-application removeable?
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22:57<jmcnaught>clarence: that tool is in the package gnome-packagekit ("dpkg -S"), but removing it would also remove the gnome metapackages which is probably not desirable. Are you having a problem with it?
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23:01<jmcnaught>clarence: one way to see what would happen if you remove a package is to use apt-get's "--simulate" option which doesn't even require root. for example "apt-get remove gnome-packagekit --simulate" will show you what would be removed. You can check each package in the list to see what it's for with "apt-cache show <packagename>". apt-cache can search and show dependencies among other stuff, see the man page for the full details :)
23:09<clarence>Debian has Symnaptics(spelling?) and gpk-application, but don't know how to update them
23:09<clarence>besides, can I just using apt-get and aptitude?
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23:12<jmcnaught>These are all frontends to the same package system. apt-get, aptitude, synaptic are all packages that get updated the same way that other packages get updated. In general you can use whichever one you like the best. The Debian Reference has a good chapter on the package management system: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html , also the Debian Administrator's Handbook is another option.
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23:15<clarence>Thank you
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