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---Logopened Wed Sep 03 00:00:08 2014
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00:07<samkod>I just formatted my 1tb external to a xfs filesystem. It shows up in /media/NEBULA but I can't move any files to it. Running debian wheezy 7.6
00:07<samkod>thoughts?
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00:09<Ac-town>how come the installer isn't allowing me to setup disk encryption?
00:11<Ac-town>i dont even see the option to use lvm
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00:15<_flip>samkod: what's the permissions of /media/NEBULA ?
00:16<_flip>has the fs been mounted read-only?
00:17<[Steven_M]>I really want to install Debian on my laptop, but no matter what variation of the installer I try, the partitioner (both graphical and shell) gets disk sizes and existing partition sizes wrong. What can I do?
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00:17<_flip>[Steven_M]: do you have Hybrid MBR drive or something weird?
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00:18<Ac-town>hmm looks like it wasnt able to find the lvm package from the usb stick as I had to remove it, is there a way I can reforce that?
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00:19<[Steven_M]>_flip: as far as I know, just mbr
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00:23<ryonaloli>i have an nginx question. how would i use rewrite or return to 301 redirect www.site.com -> https://www.site.com/ -> https://site.com/, and site.com -> https://site.com/
00:23<[Steven_M]>_flip: for example, it thinks 1 of my 112G partitions is 120G.
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00:25<_flip>[Steven_M]: not sure, could it be a GiB vs gigabyte thing?
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00:26<ncl>ryonaloli: probably: server{ listen 80; server_name www.site.com; return 301 https://site.com/$request_uri }
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00:27<ncl>ryonaloli: I don't know if you could listen 443 ssl without conflicting with the non-www. listen
00:27<ncl>(also this is probably offtopic for here)
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00:27<ryonaloli>ncl: that would allow an attacker to change the htst expiration period http://coderrr.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/canonical-redirect-pitfalls-with-http-strict-transport-security-and-some-solutions/
00:28<ryonaloli>(if it's offtopic where should i go? i can't go on freenode, they banned my vpn)
00:28<[Steven_M]>_flip: I'll look into that one.
00:29<ryonaloli>just in case, this is what i think might work: https://dpaste.de/x0OM/raw
00:29<ncl>ryonaloli: then just pass the hsts header? add_header Strict-Transport-Security max-age=31536000
00:30<ryonaloli>ncl: that's only secure if it's passed on the same domain. if you do www.site.com -> https://site.com/ or site.com -> https://www.site.com, the hsts header is sent unencrypted
00:30<ncl>...if you're doing plaintext they can just remove the header altogether
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00:30<_flip> [Steven_M]: I seem to remember by "120gb" ssd showing up as 112gb. So i think it's just the different units. I think Hardware manufacturers specify HDDs in GiB (1000000 bytes) these days
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00:32<ryonaloli>they couldn't remove the header because it wouldn't be sent in plaintext. the most they could do is block the http -> https 301 redirect, which wouldn't give them any mitm ability
00:32<Ac-town>is there a way to preload the usb for install? I dont want to have to keep trying to swap the usb stick in when it needs a package
00:32<[Steven_M]>_flip: ok thanks :)
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02:44<linuxluser>Does anybody have a way to get Gnome 3.12 on Debian?
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02:47<themill>That's the version of gnome in jessie (testing)
02:49<linuxluser>https://packages.debian.org/jessie/gnome-core says "1:3.8+8"
02:49<linuxluser>Unless I'm missing something, I don't think it's there yet
02:50<linuxluser>How are people testing 3.12 currently? I'd like to join the fun. :)
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02:55<linuxluser>https://packages.debian.org/jessie/gnome-shell lists as "3.12.2-3"
02:55<linuxluser>I see now
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03:00<themill>the version of a metapackage often doesn't relate to the version of the components it depends on
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03:34<helmut_>hi
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03:38<_flip>hi
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03:38<shadowfal>fuck poettering
03:39<shadowfal>everything he makes is garbage
03:39<shadowfal>fuck you for adopting it
03:39<shadowfal>via 4 person decision
03:39<shadowfal>fuck you for not even having a GR on the issue
03:39<nkukard>lol
03:40<shadowfal>linux will now be back to 1995: compile it yourself or go slackware as the only options
03:41<shadowfal>fucking traitrs
03:41<shadowfal>just throwing it all away because you're too lazy to ditch gnome
03:41<shadowfal>or just stay with gnome 2
03:42<shadowfal>works fine, you don't need to keep on a treadmill. Eventually software is finished, mature
03:42<shadowfal>hey, lets all have eth0 be etwhka0000Knon
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03:43<_flip>go home, you're drunk
03:43<shadowfal>_flip, go die, you're stupid
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03:44<shadowfal>when was debian invaded by fucking script d00ds and windows gamrs?
03:44<shadowfal>_flip, you are trash, as a human being
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03:44<_flip>i think you're stupid if you think this is constructive
03:44<shadowfal>_flip, you sound like a progressive
03:45<shadowfal>nice soft passive aggressive language
03:45<_flip>well i do like pink floyd
03:45<shadowfal>what's needed in the path of systemd is destruction
03:45<shadowfal>or a brick wall
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03:45<peter1138>yawn
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03:45<shadowfal>another passive aggressive progressive
03:45<shadowfal>"yawn"
03:46<shadowfal>same old tropes over and over again
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03:46<peter1138>yup, you are repeating them indeed
03:47<shadowfal>do any of you do work?
03:47<shadowfal>I cannot believe that developers would have any love for systemd
03:47<shadowfal>I sure don't.
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03:53<shadowfal>fuck this systemd trash
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03:53<shadowfal>jpierre03, you a pro-systemd progressive?
03:53<shadowfal>or are you not a hipster douche?
03:56<Stummi>shadowfal, you are free to make your systemd-free debian fork
03:56<shadowfal>fuck you
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04:36<pippo>Hello! I have a question about pulse audio
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04:38<andrew_>(not that I can probably help but) you'll have to actually get to the question - don't think anyone here is psychic
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06:32<fanto666>quit
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06:33<fanto666>ops....
06:33<fanto666>which packaged/scripts do update apt database?
06:33<fanto666>Seems there's something running on some of my machines, but I can't find out what
06:34<themill>update-notifier, unattended-upgrades, cron-apt, apticron, ...
06:35<fanto666>no cron jobs running at the time, no users logged, nothing of these installed...
06:35<fanto666>just updated files in /var/lib/apt/lists
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06:37<fanto666>hmmm
06:37<fanto666>apt-show-versions suspect
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06:40<fanto666>eh no, apparently another result of someone
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07:13<rmx77>hello all
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07:14<rmx77>anyone around
07:15<babilen>No, you are alone
07:16<rosol>rmx77: Total of 649 nicks
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07:16<rmx77>hmm i have one little hickup
07:16<petn-randall>rmx77: What did you eat last Friday?
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07:17<yatharth01>http://t.co/cs8JtjxC8u Please take this survey once, this is my final year research project!
07:17<rmx77>thats not gonna help me any with what i want help with
07:17<rmx77>i have a little hickup with flash
07:17<yatharth01>thnks )
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07:18<petn-randall>!ask
07:18<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
07:18<petn-randall>rmx77: To cut it short a little, try to phrase your support request like this ^^^^
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07:19<rmx77>well its flash i have an issue with since the only plugin i seem to see in the add and remove software seems to be installed but all the browsers seem not to see any flash
07:20<rmx77>chromeum doesnt see flash, iceweasel doesnt see flash at all and any site that uses flash asks me to install flash
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07:20<petn-randall>rmx77: Which Debian release are you running?
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07:21<rmx77>the newest one
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07:22<petn-randall>...
07:22<rmx77>i have done a net install
07:23<rosol>rmx77: lsb_release -a
07:24<rmx77>well its the most recent release i know that
07:24<rmx77>Release 7.6 (wheezy) 32-bit
07:24<rmx77>Kernel Linux 3.2.0-4-686-pae
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07:25<rmx77>GNOME 3.4.2
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07:25<petn-randall>rmx77: There are newer "releases", jessie and sid, that aren't declared stable yet. Which is why I ask.
07:26<rmx77>ah
07:26<rmx77>well its the latest stable if u call it that
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07:27<rmx77>idk what i am to really do to make flash work or get any flash on this thing for that matter other then the software install programs
07:28<fanto666>which flash player is the one you have installed?
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07:29<petn-randall>!tell rmx77 about adobe flash
07:29<petn-randall>!tell rmx77 about pepper flash
07:29<rmx77>well its what is installed by default gnu stuff
07:29<petn-randall>rmx77: Please check what the bot sent you.
07:30<rmx77> i have
07:31<rmx77>i know bout adobe flash but the package manager doesnt have adobe flash it just uses the gnash gnu shit
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07:33<petn-randall>rmx77: Do you have contrib enabled as the factoid said?
07:33<rmx77>and the adobe website doesnt have a version for debian just ubuntu and tar.gz and yum and such
07:33<rmx77>hmmm
07:33<rmx77>i have enabled as much as i know to be enabled
07:34<rmx77>and i pulled from the frontiernet server
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07:35<petn-randall>rmx77: You only have to enable contrib, then install that package. There's nothing else you need to do.
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07:35<petn-randall>!tell rmx77 about contrib
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07:36<rmx77>hmmm
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07:37<rmx77>now i wonder how i would even manually make that install or such its been a little while since i last used a terminal for installs lol
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07:48<pippo>hello, I looking for some infos about pulse audio
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07:57<rmx77>hmm i am stuck
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08:07<petn-randall>rmx77: Where are you stuck? Did you edit your sources.list yet?
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08:42<mapreri>Hi! I have a qemu guest that has an IP address, correctly resolves IPs but there are no further network activity (pings does not work). hints?
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08:45<peter1138>is ip forwarding enabled?
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08:48<dualbus>mapreri: what networking mode are you using? ICMP doesn't work when you use the user-mode-something networking
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08:51<mapreri>dualbus: I started qemu without any networking option, so it's using a nat interface (that user-mode you tell). in fact a wget works fine
08:52<dualbus>mapreri: so there you are, ICMP is not implemented in that networking mode, just TCP/UDP
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08:52<dualbus>if you want ICMP, then use one of the many other networking modes
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08:55<mapreri>dualbus: for now I stick with this mode. I'm used to try just a ping to see if the network works, didn't realized the ICMP could be disabled... thanks :)
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10:05<rosol>Somebody can help with this sendmail log?: http://bpaste.net/show/84c6c96286b2
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10:07<rosol>I want to send email from local machine by sendmail through external email.account
10:07<rosol>It works with gmail
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10:08<rosol>(personal account)
10:08<sney>your mta needs to be accepted as a relay by the upstream mta. I find postfix easier to configure/troubleshoot but to each their own
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10:09<rosol>sney: Hmm so you suggest to install posix ?
10:09<sney>but it's a pretty standard anti-spam practice for internet mtas to be suspicious of mail coming from random ips
10:10<sney>postfix but only because it's easier to configure than sendmail, it does the same things
10:10<rosol>yes but php script works good
10:10<rosol>my firend used it to send email from this machine through this php script ;/
10:11<sney>oh, is it for transactional emails from a website or something?
10:11<rosol>so why I can't use sendmail ?
10:11<sney>you shouldn't need to hook up with your other email server at all, just add the ip of your webserver to the spf allowed senders for your domain and it'll just work
10:11<rosol>sney: Yes :P
10:11<sney>I only recommend postfix because sendmail configs and logs are confusing
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10:12<rosol>I haven't domain name ;/
10:12<rosol>for my ext. IP
10:12<sney>get one, they're nearly free depending on the tld
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10:13<sney>but I mean for the email address.. or are you hoping to send your transactional mails from something e.g. @hotmail.com
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10:13<rosol>I want configure this only for system reporting
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10:14<rosol>which using external email address
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10:14<sney>why an external email address, then
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10:14<sney>you need to understand smtp is very simple
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10:15<sney>if the mta on your webserver wants to send a mail from root@debian to yourname@whatever.com, it can just do that directly, it doesn't have to use some other external account
10:15<rosol>sney: Yes but atm I need use external address :P
10:15*sney shrugs
10:15<sney>well, I have to go to work, but maybe you can give all of the details to the next person willing to help you
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10:16<rosol>sney: Anyway, thank You
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10:24<oznt>hi everyone : can someone tell me what is :- in bash?for example DAEMONUSER=${DAEMONUSER:-mongodb} , can I understand this as: if no such variable assign this to DAEMONUSER?
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10:25<Riviera>oznt: Yes, or it if exists and is empty.
10:25<Riviera>!pe > oznt
10:25<ansgar>oznt: man bash, search for :-. Same section also explains :=, :+, ...
10:26<Riviera>Ah, different channel, nevermind my !pe-crap.
10:26<oznt>ansgar: thanks
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11:02<oznt>i have systemd installed in my jessie machine (yee...) but how do I know what boots my system? Is systemd already the default init replacement in debian?
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11:03<Brigo>oznt, search for PID 1. If systemd is PID 1, then yes.
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11:08<oznt>Brigo: odd, my pid 1 is /sbin/inid, so you'd think I am using the classical init. but this is unfortunately, /sbin/init: symbolic link to `/lib/systemd/systemd'
11:08<oznt>shame ... I really think systemd is a bad idea ...
11:09<Brigo>root@Brigo:~# pgrep -l systemd: 1 systemd
11:09<Brigo>oznt, why?
11:09<oznt>man, let
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11:10<oznt>'s not start a flamewar here, I don't want to have bad reputation here in this channel
11:10<oznt>Brigo: if you'd like to know my opinion, contact me on private please
11:11<Brigo>this channel is full of people who likes systemd and people who dont, but for argue better join #debian-offtopic
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11:11<Brigo>oznt, not really, thanks :)
11:11<ansgar>Rants don't go to #-offtopic, but to /dev/null :)
11:11<Brigo>I have read a lot about it, this morning, for example in slashdot. All discusions looks the same discusion to me now :)
11:12<Brigo>rants?
11:12<Brigo>ah, ok, i already look it at the dictionary
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12:29<anonymous_>hey
12:29<anonymous_>anyone up for hacking some nsa shit?
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12:29<lostatwork>lol
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12:29<ansgar>NSA doing quick work of hackers.
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12:42<picrusty>is Quassel core/client on Pi off topic?
12:42<txt-file>iceweasel is stupid … for some reason it tells me that https://social.txtfile.eu has as certificate for cars.txtfile.eu and I do not find an entry in iceweasels certificate preference page
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12:43<blast007>picrusty: running Raspbian?
12:43<txt-file>when I open https://social.txtfile.eu in chromium it opens it without complains
12:43<picrusty>yup
12:43<blast007>!raspbian
12:43<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
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12:44<koollman>txt-file: it's not necessarily stupid. the default certificate really is cars.txtfile.eu
12:45<picrusty>thanks
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12:45<txt-file>koollman, hmm … this is wierd
12:45<txt-file>koollman, then apache2 is stupid ;-)
12:46<koollman>txt-file: I assume there's SNI involved, many certificates and one ip address ?
12:46<txt-file>or I have not enough knowledge
12:46<txt-file>yeah
12:46<somiaj>certs can be a pain because they are not just encryption, they are identification by some 'authority'. Browers seem to be overly picky about sharing the encryption on non paid for identities.
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12:47<koollman>txt-file: yeah. so for some reason, firefox doesn't do it right in your case. or maybe there's a proxy in the way
12:47<somiaj>doesn't it give you an option to proceeded anyways after the warning?
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12:48<koollman>somiaj: firefox became painfully restrictive on that part a few releases ago. trying to 'protect users'
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12:49<koollman>txt-file: the server configuration is correct. so either firefox, or something between firefox and your server
12:51<txt-file>somiaj, for some reason, which I do not know, not
12:51<WangDang>Need some advice. I'm putting a server back into service that has been in the closet since August 2011. Just completed the dist-upgrade lenny->squeeze. My question, should I run it on squeeze-lts for a few days/weeks to make sure that nothing got changed(none of my configuration got changed) during the upgrade, or press onward with the squeeze->wheeze upgrade?
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13:09<thomas>hello everyone
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13:11<txt-file>hello thomasm
13:12<txt-file>hmm … already gone
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13:17<magnetophon>I'm compiling and get: "cc1plus: out of memory allocating 10408 bytes after a total of 2539184128 bytes". I have ulimit -l unlimited but gcc is not using any swap, which I have plenty of. What's going on?
13:19<pete__>I'm playing with d-i doing network-based installs via PXE; installation of today's d-i netinst image hangs near the end of the install at 'Running post-installation trigger libc-bin'; everything else appears to work so far (this is in a PXE install without pre-seeding that has worked quite fine unchanged over the last two months). Should I file against libc-bin?
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13:48<Maty>ahi alguien?
13:48<Maty>xD
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14:57<casper366>hi, what controlls the layout of my tabs in the gnome-terminal (I'm using Debian, with openbox as WM)
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14:58<casper366>with layout I mean appearance (eg. the textcolor, backgroundcolor of aktive/inactive tabs)
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15:06<valdyn>casper366: try gnome-tweak-tool
15:09<casper366>thx. is there also a way to edit a .conf?
15:09<valdyn>casper366: gtk/gnome programs take their skinning from the gsettings daemon (if its running) or from a config file, if its not running
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15:13<valdyn>casper366: see ~/.config/gtk-3.0/
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15:16<casper366>valdyn: hmm, ok. The tweak-tool shows an error when it comes to the shell-theme. But it seems, that the shell-theme doesn't really apply to the theme of the programm gnome-terminal. Also I don't have a process gsettings (at least it doesn't show up in /etc/init.d/gsettings). Thirdly I don't have a ~/.config/gtk-3.0)
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15:16<valdyn>casper366: you dont necessarily have that file
15:17<valdyn>casper366: the gsettings daemon is not started via /etc/init.d/ as its not a system service
15:17<casper366>valdy: silly me :-)
15:17<valdyn>casper366: gnome-tweak-tool however will write its settings to ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini iirc
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15:18<valdyn>casper366: its started "gnome-settings-daemon" but you do not need it
15:19<valdyn>casper366: now you could start it in your ~/.xsession , and it would probably enable you to change the skin in realtime
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15:19<valdyn>casper366: your gnome-terminal needs to be restarted to use the new settings otherwise I think
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15:20<valdyn>casper366: ( all this change a little bit from gtk-2.0 and i havent really played around with it that much )
15:20<valdyn>casper366: im sure you can find a sample settings.ini on google
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15:20<pepeu>Hehey! I was wondering if I could get some help "translating"/converting a command string on a site?
15:20<casper366>valdyn: Yes, I'll try to hunt one down. thanks until now :-)
15:21<valdyn>casper366: this skin should affect firefox too btw
15:21<valdyn>casper366: (or iceweasel)
15:21<valdyn>casper366: but that one acts a little different
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15:23<casper366>valdyn: hmm, my Iceweaseltabs look totally different from my other programms (eg. gnome-terminal, nautilus,...)
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15:23<valdyn>casper366: the tabs are custom
15:24<casper366>valdyn: just to clarify, my problem lies with the gtk-theme and not with openbox and its window managing?
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15:24<valdyn>casper366: thats right, openbox is totally unrelated
15:24<casper366>valdyn: Ok. then I'll hit the webs and try to find the settings.ini
15:25<valdyn>casper366: gnome-terminal uses gtk-3.0. gtk-3.0 as at least "modes", one was made to play nicely with gnome, the other just reads plain old config files
15:25<valdyn>casper366: gnome-terminal uses gtk-3.0. gtk-3.0 has at least two "modes", one was made to play nicely with gnome, the other just reads plain old config files
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15:26<sim>Iceweasel 32 not release in mozilla backport ?
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15:26<valdyn>!iceweasel
15:26<dpkg>Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of <firefox>, which replaced it in Debian since 4.0 "Etch". Ask me about <why iceweasel>, <iceweasel vs firefox>, <iceweasel user-agent>. In GNOME, use gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. Since June 2013, Iceweasel in Debian <stable> is based on the Extended Support Release (ESR) branch. See also <iceweasel ntlm>. https://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel
15:26<valdyn>sim: see the wiki
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15:28<sim>qui parle français parmi vous ?
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15:28<valdyn>casper366: gnome-terminal at some point started being a client-server architecture where all open windows are controlled by one /usr/lib/gnome-terminal/gnome-terminal-server
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15:29<valdyn>casper366: ( so just opening a window wont activate the newly configured skin )
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15:30<casper366>valdyn: ok. thanks, I'll keep that in mind
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15:34<sim>The Mozilla team Debian backport is late for the new version (32)
15:34<casper366>valdyn: so, i have to restart my terminal. brb
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15:37<casper366>so, I'm using an xterm now, so I can stay here, unless I have to restart
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15:39<pepeu>Any chance I could get some help "translating"/converting a command string on a site?
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15:41<pepeu>It's probably super easy and obvious for you, but for me, it makes no sense.
15:42<casper366>pepeu: what is it
15:42<pepeu>I'm trying to get my Pi and Arduino to talk to each other with nRF24l01+ chips. And I'm tryning to follow the guide on: http://hack.lenotta.com/arduino-raspberry-pi-switching-light-with-nrf24l01
15:43<casper366>pepeu: and where exactly is your problem?
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15:44<pepeu>There have been some name changes on folders, and they mention it as well. At some point in the guide they tell you to compile it by:
15:44<pepeu>g++ -Wall -Ofast -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=hard -march=armv6zk -mtune=arm1176jzf-s -L../librf24/ -lrf24 remote.cpp -o remote
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15:44<pepeu>But that must be the "old" code. Now when there is a new folders structure, I guess that line should look a bit different.
15:45<pepeu>And I don't even know if "-lrf24" in the end is a typo, since as far as I know, there was no folder like that. There might have been a file with that name, but... *lost*
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15:47<armagedon-76>somone know how can i install webcamstudio_0.61.tar.bz2
15:47<armagedon-76>i extract but i cant install
15:48<armagedon-76>in debian jessie
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15:48<casper366>did you try the suggestion in the comments (Edoardo Odorico, 26.2014)?
15:49<casper366>@ pepeu:
15:52<pepeu>Hm? What comment?
15:52<pepeu>"Did you put the re24 library..."?
15:52<pepeu>rf*
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15:53<casper366>pepeu: yes
15:54<pepeu>Hold on, I'm going to check again to be sure. Swapping the keyboard to the Pi. OSD keyboard here from now on. (slow and time consuming)
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15:56<casper366>pepeu: can you past the error message in pastebin and give me the URL
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15:57<blast007>pepeu: are you running Raspbian?
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15:59<pepeu>@blast007: Yes. @casper366. I can try.
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15:59<blast007>!raspbian
15:59<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
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16:01<pepeu>Bah, ok.
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16:04<pepeu>#raspbian is dead. That's not really helping.
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16:08<rismos>Have a quick question/scenario if y'all don't mind helping...i've searched and can find nothing about usb mice accessible only if plugged in on boot. I'm semi new to linux so please be patient
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16:09<ompaul>rismos: care to explain further - btw it should just detect it whenever it is plugged in
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16:09<somiaj>rismos: with modern xorg with udev the mouse should become usable as soon as you plug it in despite if it was there at boot or not.
16:09<rismos>ok, best i can explain, USB Mouse - Intellipoint from microsoft, booting is the only way it's accessible, usb drives work fine during/after boot up
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16:10<rismos>once i plug it in it flashes red and then dies
16:10<rismos>after boot of course, sorry
16:10<ompaul>rismos: change ports and suspect port
16:10<rismos>tried already, all ports do the same
16:10<ompaul>rismos: or change mouse and suspect mouse
16:10<rismos>turned off the usb autosuspend
16:11<rismos>same, tried even with wireless usb mouse
16:11<rismos>same
16:11<pepeu>Ah well... I posted it on the forum instead then, since it's empty in the raspian channel. :O/
16:11<ompaul>rismos: sounds like your usb might be not in the best of health
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16:11<rismos>usb ports or mouse?
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16:11<ompaul>rismos: if you changed mice
16:12<ompaul>rismos: and the same ports - then it looks like the ports
16:12<rismos>ok, that's what I was wondering, thank you all for your assistance
16:12<ompaul>rismos: you have to think about it, we don't have people complaining about usb connections for many years unless it is a hardware fault
16:12<ompaul>rismos: usb is well understood - if that makes sense
16:13<rismos>it does, but i was reading where autosuspend might stop the usb after coming alive again and well..none of the symptoms in the post matched mine
16:13<rismos>so i was just wondering
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16:14<ompaul>autosuspend would not be a post booting setup - can you boot and have it working from the get go?
16:14<rismos>thank you all
16:14<rismos>if it boots plugged in, it does just fine
16:14<rismos>only hotplug is not working
16:15<ompaul>rismos: what version of debian are you running
16:16<rismos>7.6
16:16<rismos>wheezy i believe
16:16<ompaul>yeah should be
16:16<rismos>kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64
16:16<ompaul>,kernels
16:16<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.16-trunk-686-pae (3.16-1~exp1); sid: 3.14-2-686-pae (3.14.15-2); jessie: 3.14-2-686-pae (3.14.15-2); wheezy-backports: 3.14-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.14.15-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.60-1+deb7u3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6)
16:17<ompaul>nice stock wheezy install :)
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16:18<dancus>hi
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16:22<casper366>thanks. I finally managed. the problem was really the settings.ini
16:23<casper366>I copied it from /usr/share/themes/Adawaita/gtk-3.0 to ~/.config/gtk-3.0, and then added gtk-theme-name=Adwaita
16:24<casper366>that did the trick
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16:58<it_>hello people
16:59<it_>anybody alive :)
16:59<casper366>hello it_
16:59<it_>hello :)
16:59<it_>where am I?
16:59<it_>what country are u from
16:59<it_>_
16:59<it_>?
17:00<casper366>why do you want to know?
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17:01<it_>just asking :(
17:01<devil>it_: this is a support channel, not chat
17:01<it_>didnt konw
17:02<it_>im from serbia... trying linux and stuff
17:02<it_>xchat :)
17:02<devil>well, if you have a question on debian, you are in the right place
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17:03<it_>how to check heat in pinguy os
17:03<it_>?
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17:18<apoth>hello, im setting up debian for the first time and im having troubles setting up sync with firefox/iceweasel
17:18<apoth>is there a version of iceweasel that supports the new firefox account system
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17:29<devil>apoth: sure
17:30<devil>I think everything above 29 or 30 will
17:30<devil>you can use mozilla.debian.org to pick what you want
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17:37<apoth>is it mozilla.debian.net ?
17:38<devil>ups, yes
17:38<apoth>k, thx
17:38<devil>yw
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19:02<Guest1397>what's up?
19:04<petn-randall>Hi Guest1397, this is the support channel for Debian. If you want to chat we have #debian-offtopic. :)
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22:27<_flip>does docker provide any significant security perks?
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23:32<ncl>is there a way to tell dpkg not to install the /usr/share/doc stuff
23:33<ncl>It's for an embedded system and /usr/share/doc is ~50MB currently
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23:48<themill>ncl: sure, dpkg has a path-exclude configuration (or command line) option
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