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---Logopened Mon Sep 08 00:00:32 2014
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00:33<debianhelpme>hey were the guys who were helping me with debian routers still here
00:33<Luticus>I'm still here for a few. gotta head to bed soon though
00:33<debianhelpme>Luticus: quck qustion
00:33<Luticus>yup
00:34<debianhelpme>$EXTIF, should I use the eth0 for that
00:34<debianhelpme>and $INTIF for wlan0?
00:35<Luticus>internal would be behind the bridge so eth0 should be where intif is. extif is the external (internet facing) side so that would be your wlan0
00:35<debianhelpme>but I actually am getting the internet through the eth0 port
00:35<debianhelpme>i want to bring the internet from the lan port to the wireless nic
00:36<Luticus>ah
00:36<Luticus>then your original way was right
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00:37<debianhelpme>you mean, use eth0 in place of #EXTIF?
00:37<Luticus>yea, extif is the "external interface" which is whatever interface it internet facing.
00:38<debianhelpme>ok thanks man. night
00:38<Luticus>yup, hope it all works out for you, good luck!
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00:40<debianhelpme>after making changes to iptables do I need to reboot
00:42<debianhelpme>what file do I edit to change the wlan settings? Like the ssid and stuff
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00:46<debianhelpme>ping
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00:53<sleser>dolphin wont load
00:53<sleser>it opens and , stays blank
00:53<sleser>nothing just open screen
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00:53<sleser>tryed kill dolphin open again
00:53<sleser>same problem
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01:57<susu>hello everyone , my computer built-in why can't Mike voice input, how can I solve this problem, is my sound card driver problem?
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02:14<smhar>greetings\
02:16<smhar>I have a iso file that I want to mount as RW I issued mount --rw isofile mount_location but got this error: mount: block device /dev/loop0 is write-protected but explicit `-w' flag given
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02:17<weasel>iso9660 is not a fileystem you can mount read/writeable.
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02:18<smhar>weasel, :-(
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02:19<smhar>weasel, can I convert it somehow?
02:22<_flip>copy files, make changes, create a new iso?
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02:24<smhar>_flip, I want to mount it and be able to write live
02:24<weasel>then that's not the filesystem for you.
02:25<smhar>weasel, the problem is.. the iso is already created. so I need to convert it to a rewritable iso format
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02:25<weasel>copy the files to a new tree/filesystem.
02:26<smhar>weasel, so extract and burn to image again?
02:26<weasel>you can't rw a CD-R anyway.
02:27<weasel>maybe you want UDF. I've never done that though.
02:28<smhar>weasel, I was hoping for a command line alternative of : 'convert read_only_iso writable_dvd'
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02:30<DoKT0R>Need Help
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02:36<Apollo>!ask
02:36<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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02:42<smhar>weasel, I extracted the iso file to a new folder and used k3b to create another iso with UDF.. but I got this error: mount: warning: /mnt/CD_ISO/ seems to be mounted read-only
02:47<stderr>smhar: Extract the files from the ISO to a new dir. Make all the changes you want in that dir. When you have made all the changes, make a new ISO. Trying to make an ISO more or less on the fly is too much trouble (as you have noticed).
02:50<smhar>stderr, I am not trying to make the iso on the fly.
02:50<smhar>this is a very old DOS game that I found as ISO and though I can mount it I can not 'save' to the mounted fs
02:51<stderr>You sort of are, when you want to write to the ISO while it's mounted.
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02:52<stderr>Anyway, now that you have extracted the files to a new dir, you could start the game from there and save to that dir instead.
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03:36<Chenzenp>im not sure whether to post it here or not but i have ip and mac address want to know the host name who can i do it?
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03:37<Apollo>host IP
03:37<Apollo>if the IP has an associated rdns
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03:38<Apollo>the mac address is useless
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03:39<Chenzenp>this is the error i get Host 196.13.168.192.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
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03:40<Apollo>that's an RFC1918 IP
03:40<Apollo>so unless you have an internal DNS, that's not going to return anything
03:40<Chenzenp>what should i do now?
03:41<Chenzenp>Apollo, becuz my colleague who uses windows find the hostname
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03:42<Apollo>where is he getting the hostname?
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03:46<Chenzenp>PCname
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04:03<helmut_>hi
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04:11<susu>i come from china
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04:41<def>Hello! How to install both `wine:i386` and `wine` packages in debian-amd64? `wine` removes `wine:i386` but doesn't launch one i386 program. That program is distributed in deb-archive and has `wine` in dependencies.
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04:46<oliver_>def: have you tried the wine32 package?
04:48<oliver_>sorry, my mistake, that is not available in current stable
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04:51<def><oliver_>, I use unstable 'sid'
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04:56<Snacksicles>def: if you wanted to explicitly remove the amd64 version of wine, I assume you could remove "wine:amd64".
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06:17<fanto666>hello, how can I search packages only within synopsis )first line of description)?
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06:26<PinuxLolwats>You mean synaptic? I dont what you mean, but you can search packages in console using command apt-cache search pkgname/description. For example "apt-cache search irc client". Try it
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06:27<fanto666>no synaptic
06:27<ixi>fanto666 you can search for stuff in description with aptitude search '?description(stuff)'
06:27<ixi>not sure how to limit it to first line only though
06:27<fanto666>yes, but that searches whole description
06:28<fanto666>well, I'm searching for file managers
06:28<ixi>might be doable throught a nasty xargs grep pipe
06:28<ixi>through*
06:28<fanto666>unfortunately searching for 'file' and 'manager' displays lots of stuff
06:28<PinuxLolwats>what distro are you using, stable or testing?
06:28<fanto666>stable
06:28<fanto666>with some backports
06:29<PinuxLolwats>you want some lightweight file manager?
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06:29<fanto666>I'd like to see them all :)
06:29<ixi>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_managers
06:29<fanto666>probably with their p[lugins
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06:29<fanto666>ixi not exactly what I want, and it's impossible to rescrict to those installed :)
06:31<PinuxLolwats>well, there are at least thunar, pcmanfm, xfe, krusader and konqueror
06:31<PinuxLolwats>thunar will need some xfce4 dependencies, krusader and konqueror will need some kde dependencies
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06:32<ixi>fanto666 you might have some luck searching for tags
06:32<PinuxLolwats>so if you aren't using kde or xfce you should look at pcman or xfe
06:32<ixi>works-with::file use::organizing
06:32<fanto666>ixi: I haven't seen any tag for file manager
06:32<ixi>or some such combination
06:32<PinuxLolwats>there must be other file managers, but that's all I remember
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06:33<fanto666>ixi: that could do it, I'll try
06:33<fanto666>nope, too much info
06:37<fanto666>I'll filter manually
06:37<fanto666>thx
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06:45<Guest1805>hi
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06:50<ciowhofwf>hi. i have a packaged program that crashes and renders a 'fatal IO error on X server'. how should i begin to troubleshoot this (no google results. not sure if it's the program itself, X or my window manager)? i don't know if its worthy of a bug report, either.
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06:55<jm_>ciowhofwf: tried starting it from a terminal?
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06:56<ciowhofwf>jm_: yep. that's how i got the error message. also ran it in debug mode. also looked at xsession errors. nothing is too specific.. just references an IO error
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06:57<jm_>ciowhofwf: who packaged it then?
06:58<ciowhofwf>jm_: not sure how to check that. the program is rhythmbox, which is pretty popular. the messages include: http://pastebin.com/93hLwdh2
06:58<ciowhofwf>the first error is apparently just a warning (according to an existing bug report). the second message is i believe, more relevant.
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06:58<jm_>ciowhofwf: where did you get it from?
06:59<ciowhofwf>get what?
06:59<jm_>the first error is most likely the cause of the prob lem
06:59<jm_>the package
07:00<ciowhofwf>well the first error spits out all the time with normal usage and doesn't crash the program.
07:00<ciowhofwf>um... apt. running 7.3.0 stable
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07:00<jm_>in that case I recommend you check BTS and open a new bugreport if one doesn't exist yet
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07:01<ciowhofwf>jm_: shall do. thanks.
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07:02<jm_>ciowhofwf: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=693411
07:02<jm_>ciowhofwf: are you sure it doesn't end with SIGSEGV?
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07:04<ciowhofwf>it doesn't. one sec... let me find a better link (to a bug report) that implied that particular error is not a problem
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07:06<ciowhofwf>jm_: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660113 was the one i found before
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07:07<ciowhofwf>> > The upstream developer Matthew responded in the upstream report [1] that
07:07<ciowhofwf>> this is a harmless warning and a bug in pygobject.
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08:16<RolaCola>Hi everyone - is there a way to add support for my hardware into the Kernel shipped with Wheezy? I've upgraded the Kernel but the newer one is causing other problems :(
08:16<jm_>what hardware is that?
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08:17<RolaCola>Network cards, Atheros. I couldn't get it to work with the default Kernel so I changed to 3.14 bpo which enabled the cards but caused another problem
08:20<Volley>probably easier to solve the another problem
08:20<RolaCola>Agreed - but I don't know where to start. Whenever the system suspends, whenever it restores the keyboard and mouse are disabled (the system hasn't crashed). Where would I even begin to troubleshoot?
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08:20<musca>the kernel in wheezy got backported drivers in latest point release ...
08:21<musca>(or patches in general)
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08:22<musca>!7.6
08:22<dpkg>Debian 7.6 was released on July 12th, 2014. This point release corrects some serious bugs and copies security updates across to the main archive. Further details are at https://www.debian.org/News/2014/20140712 and http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/wheezy/ChangeLog . To upgrade, ask me about <point release>.
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08:23<RolaCola>musca: that's the version of Debian I have
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08:25<jm_>you could try building your own kernel (3.15 and 3.16)
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08:26<musca>RolaCola: or did you only miss the non-free package firmware-atheros?
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08:27<WangDang>What's going on? my screen is filling with mass partings and rejoinings of the channel. Is this going on for others here too, or is it my connection?
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08:28<Maulkin>There's a netsplit, we're trying to sort it out now
08:28<WangDang>ok, thx
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08:28<RolaCola>musca: I might have missed that - looking in to it now, thanks for the pointer
08:29<RolaCola>jm_: is there a fairly safe way to recompile a kernel? I'm wanting the system to be as stable as possible
08:29<chaos>then don't mess with the kernel :)
08:30<RolaCola>chaos: attempting to get the default one working as I need it to right now!
08:30<jm_>RolaCola: the old kernels will remain in your boot config so you can safely choose them at boot
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08:33<RolaCola>jm_: yep, I'm using this kernel (with internet access) to get the debs, I'll swap over now and see if they work on the original kernel :)
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08:42<verdugo>holaaaaaaa
08:43<ixi>!es
08:43<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
08:43<verdugo>trolooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos
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08:47<RolaCola>musca: firmware-atheros from nonfree doesn't seem to have worked, it's possible I've missed something. I added nonfree to sources.list, used apt-get -d from the kernel with internet access, rebooted into the regular kernel and installed it with apt-get. No cigar :(
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08:55<verdugo>asdfg
08:55<verdugo>asd
08:55<verdugo>putaaa
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09:02<RolaCola>Does anyone else have any suggestions? The default Wheezy kernel doesn't seem to support my network cards, but the upgraded kernel stops my keyboard and mouse from working whenever the laptop is suspended (forcing me to restart via power button) - where do I start troubleshooting? What options do I have?
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09:04<anny>RolaCola: maybe just wrong package? https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k
09:05<RolaCola>is there a way to check if I have ath9k?
09:06<anny>or this: https://wiki.debian.org/ath5k we dont know your atheros card model
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09:06<RolaCola>anny: sorry it's an AR9565 (Atheros)
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09:08<anny>RolaCola: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=112129
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09:10<RolaCola>anny: I've done that (the backports-kernel option) and the new kernel causes the second issue. I'm a bit hesitatand to upgrade to sid, since I'm still learning Debian and a testing release might confuse me :(
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09:17<anny>RolaCola: maybe just try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/215498/how-to-install-qualcomm-atheros-ar9565-wireless-drivers ?
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09:18<Fenhl>Hello. While the command line (⌃⌥1) is active, the screen turns off after a period of inactivity. Is it possible to disable this?
09:18<RolaCola>anny: haven't seen this link before, giving it a try now!!
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09:26<anny>Fenhl: https://superuser.com/questions/152347/change-linux-console-screen-blanking-behavior
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09:43<anonymous>hi
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09:44<WangDang>I'm setting up a machine to act as a print server for the local network. Cups is running on the server and the printer has been added. I can print the test page from within cups, and I can send a file to the printer from the command line on the server. I made the printer available to the client using the xfce printer setup. But it's like the client considers the printer to be local. The print jobs have all spooled on the client. If I open a printer dial
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10:02<trico>im trying to install debian 7 but it says i need to load rtl_nic/rtl8168e-2.fw from USB. i have a usb drive with that file and directory but debian wont load the file from it. what am i doing wrong?
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10:07<zathras>trico, it says what when?
10:07<trico>the installer needs to load firmware for the network, but its not detecting the file on the usb
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10:08<zathras>installer as in debian installer, firmware installer or? (at what stage are you/what sw is asking for this?)
10:08<zathras>is the usbdrive mounted?
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10:11<trico>detect network hardware
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10:11<trico>might skip the step and figure this out after install. this is kind of annoying. install disc comes with enough to install gnome, right?
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13:19<binarym>I would like to create (for my company) a package that would depend on others packages and configure it. Example: it would depend on gitolite and answer the 3 debconf questions (user, adminkey, gitdir) so that gitolite is installed without prompting user. I tried to db_fset for the 3 questions in my package preinst script. But this doesn't work ...
13:19<binarym>any suggestion ?
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13:27<binarym>ok ... using db_set instead of db_fset work very better ;)
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13:37<WangDang>How do you set up to print to a server on a LAN using cups? I can send a document on the cli like this :"lp -h 192.168.1.5:631 -d HP_LaserJet_6P document.pdf" but I can't set it up as an available printer on the client machine. I've tried using the cli as well as the printers manager available in xfce to set it up on the client. "lpadmin -h 192.168.1.5:631 -d HP_LaserJet_6P" returns "lpadmin: Interdit" which is like Forbidden or Denied or something like th
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13:42<valdyn>WangDang: run "dpkg -S $(which lp)" and show us the result
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13:44<WangDang>valdyn: "dpkg -S $(which lp)" returns "cups-client: /usr/bin/lp"
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13:44<valdyn>WangDang: great, so youre just not allowed to print on that server
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13:46<valdyn>WangDang: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf on the server controls access restrictions
13:46<WangDang>valdyn: I can print to the server using the cli, but I can' t set it up graphically
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13:47<WangDang>the problem is it spools locally instead of sending the job to the server
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13:47<valdyn>WangDang: yea, you can print, but you cant configure with lpadmin
13:48<WangDang>OK, I'll look at cupsd.conf
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13:51<valdyn>WangDang: as far as i know, you can operate without a local spool, but i dont see this being supported well
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13:54<WangDang>so there is supposed to be a local spool when your printing to a server?
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13:55<valdyn>WangDang: Thats more convenient yes
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13:56<WangDang>So why isn't being sent from the local spool to the remote printer? I don't think allowing remote admin is going to change that is it?
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13:59<WangDang>I'd already set the printer up to be shared, but I hadn't allowed remote admin. Now that I've allowed remote admin, the lpadmin command on the client doesn't fail, but it asks for roots password on the server. Root doesn't have a password on the server. You can only get root using sudo. It won't accept the password of the user who can sudo to root.
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14:02<WangDang>anyone know of a way around that?
14:02<Maulkin>WangDang: you can use lppasswd (I think)
14:02<valdyn>WangDang: it should be sending to the server
14:02<WangDang>in conjunction with lpadmin?
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14:03<valdyn>WangDang: so, works for me, but i set the permissions accordingly
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14:04<WangDang>can you elaborate on what permissions you set, and how you set them?
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14:05<valdyn>WangDang: I default to "Allow From 192.168.1.0/24" and restrict this for /admin
14:05<valdyn>WangDang: read the config file....
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14:06<WangDang>I have read the config file, but I'm a little confused about which Locations I need to set to make this work
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14:11<valdyn>WangDang: i think you only allow from as I showed you
14:11<valdyn>WangDang: since printing (by default) requires no authentication
14:11<valdyn>WangDang: i think you only need allow from as I showed you
14:12<valdyn>WangDang: the tasks are listed in the <Limit> tags
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14:14<valdyn>WangDang: <Location /> Order allow,deny </Location> is default, in there you can allow additional ips
14:14<valdyn>WangDang: just access cups from a browser to test this
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14:21<WangDang>so, setting the printer to be shared and allowing remote adminstration from with the cups web interface is not enough to allow print jobs from the lan? I need to explicitly add the network ip in the confile on the server by hand?
14:21<WangDang>s/administration from with the/administration from within the/
14:22<shawn>Yo
14:23<WangDang>cuz right now the only lines in <Location /> are Order allow,deny and Allow @LOCAL
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14:26<valdyn>WangDang: no, if @LOCAL specifies the ips already, then thats obviously equivalent
14:27<WangDang>where does @LOCAL get defined?
14:27<valdyn>WangDang: why dont you try it in a webbrowser, then you can clearly see if this is about permissions....
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14:27<valdyn>WangDang: i dont know about it
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14:27<WangDang>try what in a web browser? printing or configuring?
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14:27<valdyn>WangDang: whatever you want to see working
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14:28<WangDang>I've tried both configuring the server from a web browser on the server, and printing from a web browser on the client. It hasn't been successful so far
14:29<valdyn>WangDang: so maybe @LOCAL does not do what you think it does
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14:30<valdyn>WangDang: is yours still the default cupsd.conf?
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14:31<WangDang>no, I've run the web interface to configure it which altered the file
14:31<blast007>http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/ref-cupsd-conf.html See the description of @LOCAL there. It would not allow other computers to access it.
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14:33<valdyn>so we're back at my first hint, thats still all you need to do
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14:35<WangDang>so @LOCAL means what I expected it to. I was really hoping to avoid having to edit the file by hand. I'll try your suggestion Valdyn
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14:36<WangDang>Thanks to you too blast007
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14:53<adrian>Hello, is there a way to find the binary of a file that you execute through GUI menus? I only know to use locate, which doesnt work if the binary is abbrieviated
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14:57<kenyon>adrian: can't you right click the menu and get some properties about the menu item
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14:59<adrian>I tried but it just executed straight away, same as a left click
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14:59<kenyon>adrian: maybe there is some menu editor thing that can tell you. otherwise, if the program is running, you can run ps to find the process name.
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15:00<kenyon>adrian: I usually use 'ps afxu'
15:01<adrian>Okay, I'll read up a bit on gnome it might be in there.
15:01<adrian>I'm not familiar with the f tag on ps but I'll see if that will help.
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15:07<spippi>ciao
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15:17<dark-jedi>I use "ps -eo rss,vsz,pid,cmd,cputime | sort -n | tail -20"
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16:14<vlad2>hello. i can't get my intel wirelss 7260 card to work. i run debian stable, and i have tried installing the firmware-iwlwifi/testing package and then modprobing iwlwifi, but no wlan interface is created, and modinfo iwlwifi does not list the 7260 firmware. any tips on what i should try next?
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16:18<gsimmons>vlad2: You will need a later Linux kernel version for device support.
16:18<gsimmons>dpkg: tell vlad2 -about iwl7000
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16:23<vlad2>thanks for the help! :)
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18:36<_flip>I'm using "checkrestart" to see which daemons i have to restart after updating
18:37-!-mode/#debian [+l 668] by debhelper
18:37<_flip>however, not it just says: Found 6 processes using old versions of upgraded files \n (1 distinct program) \n (1 distinct packages)
18:38<_flip>it doesnt give me the PID/name of the process - how can i see what it's referring to?
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20:06<_flip>thanks rudi_s
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20:07<rudi_s>np
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20:17<_flip>turns out it was getty. Anyway to restart them without screwing something up?
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20:28<rudi_s>_flip: You can just kill them, they'll be respawned.
20:28<rudi_s>But I don't think a getty will be a very vulnerable program ...
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20:36<nikon_>so uhh
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20:36<nikon_>gdm3 wont start
20:36<nikon_>and i can't find any problems in the logs
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20:51<txt-file>hey folks. I have a problem with my apache2. When accessing https://btwlf.net I get a redirection loop. The apache2-site config is http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?ae36321ebc482e5a#xoqd77m4w4iHlI5/a3i3VYVTuQ/OvPCoeAax+/vNvpk=
20:51<txt-file>I have two other sites with nearly the same config and they are working fine.
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20:58<txt-file>and http://btwlf.net redirects me to https://sq.chch.it (which 1. confuses me and 2. does not exist yet)
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21:03<WangDang>Sort of solved: For anyone who was following my trials with getting a remote printer set up on a client machiine, I've figured out why it wasn't working. I have a firewall on the client that blocks all incoming traffic on the LAN interface except for established and related packets. When I changed the default policy on INPUT chain to ACCEPT, the printer showed up in xfce's printer configuration utility without me even having to add it. I a
21:03<themill>txt-file: that's not the redirect that I get. Location: https://btwlf.net/ [following] (which is what you define in your config)
21:04<txt-file>now I also get redirected from http to https
21:04*txt-file hates browser caches sometimes
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21:08<txt-file>I fixed the problem. There was a second rewrite rule in the .htaccess
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21:10<txt-file>but I wonder why this second rule with "RewriteCond %{HTTPS} off" is even executed.
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23:50<shawn>hello
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23:51<shawn>i'm trying to write a script which apt-get runs, but i can't get it to show messages to the tty, i think apt-get is redirecting the messages
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23:53<sney>2>&1 ?
23:54<shawn>well i'm using echo "some message"
23:54<shawn>so its already supposed to go to stdout
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23:55<shawn>maybe i will try redirecting it to stderr
23:55<themill>perhaps you could show us the script
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23:57<shawn>yes
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