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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-09-09

---Logopened Tue Sep 09 00:00:04 2014
---Daychanged Tue Sep 09 2014
00:00<shawn>https://gist.github.com/shawnbon206/52e7bdf717a487710940
00:01<shawn>I just want to put in a message which will be shown when it works
00:01<shawn>but none of the messages show up
00:02<shawn>the script works though, ivve tested every part of it
00:03<themill>shawn: is the script marked as being executable? What's the exact filename?
00:03<shawn>/etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-efistub
00:04<shawn>the script is +x yes
00:04<shawn>and 100% working
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00:05<shawn>i put at the beginning "exec >/tmp/myscript.log 2>&1" to log the messages
00:06<shawn>they were all doing as expected
00:06<themill>other hooks seem to send output to stderr rather than stdout
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00:08<shawn>ohhh. maybe thats what it is
00:08<shawn>sorry my first script :PO
00:08<shawn>what about line 36 and line 37
00:08<shawn>if those had echo's on them would those be on stderr by default too?
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00:18<dualbus>themill: so, output has to go to stdout for apt-get to show it?
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00:19<dualbus>because the echos shawn has write to stdout
00:19<themill>not in general
00:19<themill>I don't see anything in the postinst that would be eating stdout, but as I said, all other hook scripts there use stderr not stdout
00:20<dualbus>ah, so shawn should be using stderr instead for messages?
00:20<themill>perhaps
00:20<dualbus>cool, thanks, themill
00:20<dualbus>shawn: so, try the redirections I mentioned, let's hope that helps
00:20<o>hello
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00:21<shawn>ok i will let you know. themill i noticed it only happens for bpo kernels if that makes any sense
00:21<themill>fun
00:21<themill>the postinst will certainly be different
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00:23<mx>Who uses debian testing?
00:23<sney>people who want to test the next version of debian before it's released, and help find and fix bugs.
00:23<sney>also, people who are infected with SNS.
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00:25<mx>testing version of my graphics card driver is not installed properly
00:27-!-mode/#debian [+l 650] by debhelper
00:27<supaplex_>woops
00:27<mx>Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module.
00:27<sney>mx: testing support goes to #debian-next and you need to provide a lot more details than that
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00:28<mx>ok
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00:28<mx>thanks
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00:31<mx>ubuntu and debian Who is better?
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00:50<shawn>themill, dualbus: it works if you put the errors on stderr!
00:50<shawn>imagine that
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03:34<shay_shay>,checkbackport linux-image-3.16-1-amd64
03:34<shay_shay>:D
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03:34<judd>Backporting package linux-image-3.16-1-amd64 in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: gcc-4.8 [alpha amd64 arm64 armel armhf hppa i386 m68k mips mipsel mips64 mips64el powerpcspe ppc64el s390 s390x sparc sparc64].
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03:41<AtomicSpark> /msg dpkg paste
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03:43<AtomicSpark>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=694738 What does "which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive" mean exactly? Which version of Debian will it ship with? Will it be backported?
03:44<willemb>I feel like I am missing something. Why would cron-apt not be installing the new procmail package for me?
03:44<themill>willemb: there was a CVE for procmail a couple of days ago
03:44<centrx>AtomicSpark, unstable most likely
03:44<jm_>AtomicSpark: sid; next release after the inclusion happens; who knows
03:45<willemb>themill: that is why i think it should be doing it. but it isn't
03:45<themill>willemb: oh. Can you pastebin "apt-cache policy procmail; apt-cache policy"?
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03:47<AtomicSpark>centrx, jm_: Thank you. It's worrisome that most HTTPS websites may not work in Google Chrome as early as Q1 of next year.
03:47<jm_>AtomicSpark: why do you think they won't work?
03:47<willemb>themill: http://paste.debian.net/119996/
03:47<willemb>aah, looks like it might be an pinning issue?
03:48<AtomicSpark>jm_: http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/09/gradually-sunsetting-sha-1.html
03:49<AtomicSpark>Most certs are currently issued with SHA-1 (which is debians default for openssl). Google is trying to force it out before the planned 2017.
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03:50<jm_>I bet chrome users will be very happy
03:52<themill>willemb: apt is correctly identifying the candidate version. You could look at what a simple "aptitude upgrade procmail" wants to do (or even just apt-get upgrade). That's a fairly scary number of 3rd party repos and pinning there btw.
03:52<willemb>themill: doing aptitude upgrade does the right thing
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03:52<themill>does it want to install or remove any other packages?
03:53<willemb>nope
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03:54<themill>odd
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03:54<willemb>themill: the cron-apt logs looks like it knows to do it
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03:54<themill>You've configured cron-apt to upgrade automatically?
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03:57<esbjorn>Hi, got an very odd problem happening here. Boot is a nightmare. Booting from liveUSB works great and desktop run smooth. Using the liveUSb to boot the installed medium also work good. If booting without liveUSB I get grub2 working and loading the kernel but get stuck loading the initrd image. Stuck every time on "loading the initram disk" nothing more.
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03:59<esbjorn>I have tried generic 3.2 kernel as well up upstream kernels. no luck. Recompiled the 3.14 from Jessie to work without initram disk, still no luck. Is it the EFI being hte problem?
03:59<jm_>esbjorn: tried removing quiet from kernel command line?
03:59<esbjorn>yes, also adding nomodeset
04:00<willemb>themill: yes
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04:01<shay_shay>,checkbackport gcc-4.8
04:01<judd>Backporting package gcc-4.8 in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.17.11), libc6-dev-x32 [amd64 i386], libx32gcc1 [amd64 i386], gcc-4.9-base, binutils (>= 2.23.52) | binutils-multiarch (>= 2.23.52), libcloog-isl-dev (>= 0.18), libmpc-dev (>= 1.0).
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04:01<jm_>and does the kernel then print anything?
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04:06<willemb>themill: I think I am getting closer to the issue. We have cron-apt in download moad, and unattended-upgrades runs later to make things happen
04:07<themill>ah, so it's u-a that is trying to do the actual upgrade. It applies weirdo pinning of its own, iirc
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04:33<willemb>themill: looks like a recent upgrade to the puppetlabs apt module broke it
04:34<themill>yay
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04:37<foffa>how to create shortcut application in desktop ?
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05:46<rham>I'm limited to Lenny
05:47<rham>I need a library that will allow me to get an FTP directory listing, download some files from that listing, and delete them
05:47<rham>libcurl 7.18.2-8lenny6 can't get directory listings
05:48*maxb suspects you're not going to find people who are in the habit of doing fresh coding against lenny
05:48<rham>can anybody suggest a different library?
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05:49<rham>maxb: I suspect I'll find people who know Debian pretty well though, including historical versions :-)
05:49<rham>and knowledge of current versions could be helpful as well
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06:35<spacesten>Halla!!
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07:07<peter1138>hmm, i set grub up to use serial console in my kvm guests ... but it loads grub too fast, so the grub menu is missing when the console is accessible :p
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07:08<petn-randall>peter1138: You can configure grub to show the menu for X seconds before booting the default.
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07:11<peter1138>petn-randall, it's not that, i just can't see it :)
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07:12<petn-randall>peter1138: Maybe I'm misunderstanding it then. I thought that grub loads too fast that it's already booting before the serial console is usable?
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07:13<peter1138>it loads too fast that it "displays" the menu before the serial console is active
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07:13<peter1138>the (invisible) menu is still usable, if you know it's there
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07:17<petn-randall>peter1138: Ah, now I understand. I don't have any experience with serial consoles, can't help you with that then, sorry.
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07:19<peter1138>ooh, this other one worked right
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07:20<peter1138>petn-randall, it's not really a problem, it's purely down to network latency i think, between starting the vm and the connecting the serial session (which is only possible after the vm is started)
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07:25<peter1138>hmm, IDE "hardware" still present despite removing it. odd.
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07:29<SomeOne>Hello
07:30<oliver_>Hello
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07:30<SomeOne>Could someone help me ? I've got question 'bout Debian
07:30<oliver_>go ahead
07:30<oliver_>we're all ears
07:31<SomeOne>I would like to reinstall debian from scrap on a pc but i don't have any cd reader
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07:31<peter1138>you can use a usb stick
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07:31<SomeOne>i think that my pc is too old to boot an a usb port
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07:31<supaman>or pxe boot through network (if your net card supports that)
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07:32<duclicsic>a cd drive can be attained for next to nothing, so you might want to just buy one
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07:32<SomeOne>my computer is alredy under debian an i would like to fresh install it !
07:32<duclicsic>how did you install it originally?
07:33<SomeOne>through windows
07:33<SomeOne>but i uninstalled windows
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07:34<jm_>you could bootstrap debian into swap, boot from that and reinstall onto the target partition using debootstrap (in both cases)
07:34<jm_>bootstrap should say debootstrap
07:34<duclicsic>i'd try checking if you can boot from usb first
07:34<SomeOne>Will i be able to do it ?
07:34<mat8913>A trick that I like to use if I already have GRUB installed is to download the kernel and initrd from ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/ and boot it with GRUB on next reboot.
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07:35<SomeOne>I've got a tablet PC : TravelMate C100
07:36<duclicsic>i'd bet that will boot from usb
07:36<SomeOne>nice
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07:37<SomeOne>so i've got to download the installer copy it to my usb key and boot on it ?
07:37<duclicsic>you can take one of the live images here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
07:37<duclicsic>and use dd to write it to a usb key
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07:37<duclicsic>sorry, i've gone to amd64 there
07:37<duclicsic>you might not want that
07:37<duclicsic>https://www.debian.org/CD/live/
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07:38<SomeOne>so i use apt-get to get dd then i download the file from your link and then ?
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07:39<peter1138>i'd be surprised if dd wasn't installed
07:39<peter1138>but you can just use cp anyway
07:39<peter1138>cp image /dev/sd...
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07:39<SomeOne>how do i figure out the name of my usb key to cp it
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07:40<petn-randall>cp is actually recommended over dd since if automatically scales the blocksize to get the fastest write.
07:40<jm_>cat /proc/partitions, look at disk sizes
07:40<jm_>or dmesg after you plug it in
07:40<petn-randall>dd by default will use a blocksize of 1 byte, which results in really slow writing to the USB disk.
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07:41<jm_>for me dd uses 512 byte blocks so it's as fast as cp
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07:42<SomeOne>ok thanks guys i'm trying it ... BRB
07:42<duclicsic>SomeOne: plug the usb drive in then run 'dmesg' and look at the last few lines of output. there will be a device listed that will be "sdX" where X will be some other letter
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07:44<petn-randall>jm_: > 64 KB will actually give you the best results, since the next block to write will already be in the write buffer.
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07:45<jm_>petn-randall: can't be arsed to test, but i doubt the difference would be worth it
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08:00<petn-randall>jm_: It's been a while, but the it was ~ 5x increase in write speed, so quite significant.
08:00<petn-randall>s/the//
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08:22<SomeOne>I'm back ... Just another question how do i figure out if i should take amd64 or i386
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08:22<zathras>hi. Any recommendations regarding the installation and use of "plenv" on Debian?
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08:22<SomeOne>Hi
08:22<zathras>SomeOne, is your hardware recent?
08:23<SomeOne>no
08:23<jm_>SomeOne: is the hardware even amd64 capable?
08:23<peter1138>SomeOne, it's P3, go for i386
08:23<jm_>there you go
08:23<SomeOne>ok thanks
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08:24<SomeOne>And do you think i should go for LXDE or XFCE ?
08:24<zathras>both are lightweight. It is a question of taste and requirements
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08:26<zathras>plenv is a virtualisation of perl applications which goes a step further than perlbrew. Any thougths on the subject?
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08:27<SomeOne>i won't be any usefull
08:29<SomeOne>I just have to copy the iso file on my usb key ?
08:30<zathras>to do what?
08:30<peter1138>to the device, yes
08:30<peter1138>make sure it's not mounted
08:30<peter1138>(oh, you will lose everything on the key, of course)
08:31<SomeOne>ok
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08:33<SomeOne>will i be able to use my usb key again after that ?
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08:35<peter1138>after you repartition and format it, yes.
08:35<SomeOne>[ 8658.176045] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 [ 8658.200027] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 8110080 512-byte logical blocks: (4.15 GB/3.86 GiB) [ 8658.204052] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [ 8658.204052] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 [ 8658.206012] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 8658.206047] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 8658.232046] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 865
08:35<sven_hh>Hello All. Could someone tell me how i can build a monolithic like kernel. I would like to rebuild the debian kernel, just including the necessary modules for my laptop. I found several guides but iam not sure how to correctly use all the commands. for example oldconfig seems to be a good start, then deactivating what is never to be used on the machine.
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08:36<SomeOne>Sorry ... Just want to make sure that my usb is sdB ...
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08:53<dario82>I'm new on this channel, I have problem with qmail and rblsmtpd. qmail don't run rblsmtpd. no info in log. Anyone can suggest solution?
08:53<dario82>When try `TCPREMOTEIP="202.63.160.111" rblsmtpd -b -t 300 -r sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org echo "hello"` I get only 'hello'.
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08:54<pfsense_rookie>dario82, what did you expect it to show?
08:54<grove>dario82: My first solution: Drop qmail
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08:56<dario82>I try example from http://thedjbway.b0llix.net/djbrbl/rblsmtpd.html and test rblsmtpd is more than only 'hello'
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08:57<grove>Last time I touched a qmail (I can't even remember how many years ago that was), we put a postfix in front of it (we needed to keep it around because of ezmlm)
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08:57<sinclairos>i am want coding on c++ in linux
08:57<sinclairos>:D
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09:00<dario82>unfortunately my client using old debian with qmail
09:00<dario82>unfortunately my client using old debian with qmail
09:00<dario82>when I put " ps -aux | grep rbl"
09:00<dario82> I get
09:00<dario82>" /usr/bin/tcpserver -R -H -u 64011 -g 65534 0 smtp /usr/bin/rblsmtpd -r bl.spamcop.net -r sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org /usr/sbin/qmail-smtpd blask.circulos.pl /bin/cmd5checkpw /bin/true "
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09:03<dario82>debhelper: Sorry for flood:(
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09:04<planetmaker>it's a bot :)
09:04<SomeOne>I don't think so
09:05<dario82>Maybe someone have some idea what can I to do
09:05<petn-randall>!kiss me
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09:05<petn-randall>Guess dpkg IS a bot ... :>
09:06<SomeOne>it was debhelper
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09:08<SomeOne>Bye ...
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09:36<willemb>Is there really still a place for monit in a technology stack?
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09:38<moe>I have just installed debian jessie with the cinnamon-desktop-environment. But I noticed that it did not install synaptic (which I installed manually) or any update-notifier or update-manager. It looks like these are transition pacakges to the packagekit. Does this mean I need to install packagekit to get the desktop notifications for updates?
09:39<zathras>willemb, what is your goal? / Why do you ask? / Why do you doubt Monit?
09:40<zathras>there are many monitoring alternatives
09:40<grove>moe: For jessie, you'll probably get better help in #debian-next
09:40<moe>ok thanks
09:40<willemb>aha. I agree
09:41<willemb>zathras: if something external to the box is alrady monitoring, say apache and exim, and will notify you if it stops, it feels like adding monit into the mix to start services if they stop is a good way to hide underlying problems in stead of fixing them
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09:41<nkozlowski>hello
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09:43<zathras>willemb, I would look at check_mk or icinga(2) or something more modern and insightful
09:43<willemb>thanks for reminding me of check_mk . I couldn't remember the name
09:43<willemb>problem with 'not zabbix' is that (as far as I recall) zabbix is the only with that is api-driven
09:43<zathras>see also debmon.org for instance
09:44<willemb>we have 2000 hosts, with MANY monitoring endpoints on each
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09:44<zathras>I would definitly checkout icinga2. Drawback is that it is still in beta
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09:55<willemb>ok, that doesn't yet directly address my concern
09:55<willemb>would you say that an environment that already is monitored via zabbix/nagios/opsview/icinga gets any benifet from monit?
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10:05<zathras>willemb, it has been ages since I looked at monit. As I remember it it was a relative simple monitoring solution. I then moved to zabbix and later on to icinga
10:05<zathras>to me it sounds like extra monitoring does not solve a thing. It just adds complexity to the monitoring, maintenance, and may provide false positives etc. besides using extra resources
10:06<zathras>so you should wonder: what *unique* feature of monit might I be missing when I do not install/use it
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10:07<willemb>monit starts up a monitored process immediately
10:07<willemb>where a zabbix check would not start it automatically
10:07<willemb>a human would have to
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10:15<zathras>lol. So a process crashes. It is not important why it crashed it just gets restarted. Maybe to autocrash again
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10:15<zathras>welcome to creating zombie processes 101
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10:16<zathras>so basically it is an expensive guardian process
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10:35<willemb>zathras: my feeling exactly
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10:41<tracker>Hello. I was in the market for a new webcam for my laptop and i was wondering if anyone in here would happen to know if any off the shelf web cam would work ? or would debian linux only support sertian ones
10:41<tracker>?
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10:44<tracker>The web cam that i was planning on getting was a usb external web cam i would personal prefer to buy just a cheap one for the task at hand but all i know about linux is from the older days of linux when almost nothing was compatible with it. what is compatible with debian wheezy?
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10:45<duclicsic>in my experience every cheap usb webcam i've tried just works without issue
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10:54<tracker>duclicsic thank you so much for your time and help. It has just been so many years scense if i have used linux. When I first started with linux back in the 90's nothing worked for it. When i tryed debian wheezy after some years
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10:54<tracker>i was very impressed with what linux has become and now i will not use anything other thank debian linux on my computer systems
10:56<tracker>anything other than debian linux on my computer system (sorry i miss typed) Agen thank you for your help duclicsic. have a good day all
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13:09<daveinlv>Am running Debian/testing with an Nvidia Quadro video card, using Nvidia blob driver.. Was working fine until a recent update. Somewhere along the line the opengl provider has been switched from Nvidia to vmware's gallium.. I have an app that requires Nvidia opengl.. How do I switch back??
13:11<MY123>daveinlv: Jessie?
13:11<daveinlv>MY123: yes...
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13:12<daveinlv>MY123: I don't even have any vmware products installed, to my knowledge.. the only virtualization I use is virtualbox..
13:13<MY123>daveinlv: The Xorg version on Jessie is too new for "blob" NVIDIA/AMD Intel Minefield/Pousbo. VMWare just developed llvmpipe, which is part of Mesa and OSS(software renderer).
13:13<MY123>daveinlv: Better go to #debian-next , ...
13:14<daveinlv>MY123: I had the blob driver installed, and my app that requires nvidia opengl worked fine for quite a while until some update broke it...
13:14<daveinlv>MY123: ok will go over there
13:14<MY123>daveinlv: It is a too new version of X11 for that driver,....
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13:14<MY123>(NVIDIA did not update their driver yet)
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13:15<MY123>That driver was even removed from the repositories, daveinlv.
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13:16<daveinlv>MY123: I used another method which downloaded the Nvidia blob from Nvidia.. and as I said it worked fine for quite a while...
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13:17<MY123>!tell daveinlv -about nvidia-installer
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13:17<MY123>daveinlv: Read the Bot.
13:17<daveinlv>MY123: ok
13:18<daveinlv>!tell daveinlv -about nvidia-installer
13:18<MY123>dpkg:tell daveinlv -about why nvidia-installer sucks
13:19<daveinlv>Well thanks.. I guess this is the final nail in the coffin for me to go back to Windows... Seriously annoying...
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13:30<musca>MY123: your info isn't valid anymore
13:30<musca>,v nvidia-driver
13:30<judd>Package: nvidia-driver on i386 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 319.82-1~bpo70+2; jessie/non-free: 340.32-1; sid/non-free: 340.32-1
13:30<MY123>musca: Thanks. But he used the nvidia-installer,...
13:31<MY123>(the installer from Nvidia.com)
13:31<MY123>and that is *still* not fully updated.
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13:32<musca>yes, the blob is a pain ... but the packaged nvidia-driver is fine with latest xorg.
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17:14<FakeBoost>Hello, I have two debian machines connected via an ethernet cable, how do I share folders between them?
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17:33<Brigo>FakeBoost, you can use samba, http, ftp, ssh ...
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17:34<FakeBoost>yeah, but I have difficulties with the details
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17:35<FakeBoost>For example, I see in eth0 both machines have the same inet address, but I don't know how to continue
17:35<FakeBoost>Brigo
17:35<Brigo>FakeBoost, both machines should not have the same inet adress.
17:35<FakeBoost>Well, how do I fix that?
17:36<FakeBoost>It was like that when i checked the addresses
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17:39<Brigo>FakeBoost, the ips was atuomatically assigned or do you configure them?
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17:40<FakeBoost>i did mess around with the ipv4 settings in both machines, trying link local, share, etc...
17:40<FakeBoost>I don't know if that has to do with the issue...
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17:44<Brigo>FakeBoost, if you have edited /etc/network/interfaces, sure :)
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17:44<FakeBoost>I didn't edit that file
17:44<Brigo>are you using network-manager?
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17:47<FakeBoost>yes, Brigo
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17:47<Brigo>well, i have never used it, but may be you can configure the system using network manager using my help
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17:47<FakeBoost>ok
17:48<Brigo>FakeBoost, are you using network-manager in both systems?
17:48<FakeBoost>yes i am
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17:48<Brigo>ok. You need to use static configuration, i am not sure how to select it in N-M.
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17:49<FakeBoost>ok, i'll check that out.
17:51<Brigo>if the configuration is dinamyc you cannot make modifications, then if you can make modification you are already in static -or manual- configuration.
17:51<FakeBoost>ok, trying to set a static ip now...
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17:52<Brigo>you have to set and ip in one like 192.168.1.2 and in the other 192.168.1.3, for example
17:53<Brigo>in the mask you have to add 255.255.255.0
17:53<FakeBoost>i'm about to do that
17:53<Brigo>in dns or default gateaway you have to put nothing.
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17:55<FakeBoost>after changing the interfaces file, do I have to reconnect or restart something?
17:56<Brigo>FakeBoost, are you editing the interface file?
17:56<FakeBoost>now i'm about to
17:56<FakeBoost>not yet
17:56<Brigo>you can use the inteface file or network-manager, not both
17:56<FakeBoost>oh...
17:57<FakeBoost>i'll try with network-manager...
17:57<Brigo>if you edit the interface file and add a configuration data for eth0, n-m will not manage it.
17:57<Brigo>FakeBoost, is not really importan, i think
17:57<FakeBoost>What?
17:57<FakeBoost>What is not important?
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17:58<FakeBoost>You mean I can use both?
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18:00<FakeBoost>I just checked in the debian wiki, I can use both...
18:00<Brigo>no, you cannot, but not using n-m for this connection is not an issue.
18:01<Brigo>i have never used n-m, and i have no problems with my network :)
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18:01<FakeBoost>ok...It says so here:https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager#Enabling_Interface_Management
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18:02<FakeBoost>I think that there shouldn't be any conflict between both ways, since its implemented in the OS...
18:03<FakeBoost>And network manager is just an app, or a gui for network interfaces...
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18:12<Brigo>FakeBoost, do You've made ​​some progress?
18:13<FakeBoost>Still trying...
18:14<FakeBoost>maybe i have to set the static address on the lo, the local loopback?? or do i have to set it in eth0?
18:14<FakeBoost>Brigo?
18:15<FakeBoost>Because i changed the interfaces file, added the static variables but it doesn't show in the ifconfig output
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18:15<Brigo>FakeBoost, not lo, lo is for internal use.
18:15<FakeBoost>ok
18:15<Brigo>FakeBoost, can you paste your interface file in paste.debian.net?
18:16<FakeBoost>yeah
18:16<Brigo>when you have finished the configuration you need to execute ifup eth0
18:16<FakeBoost>ohhh
18:16<FakeBoost>i forgot that,let me try the ifup
18:17<FakeBoost>failed to bring up eth0, i'll paste bin now...
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18:21<FakeBoost>paste.debian.net/120116
18:21<FakeBoost>brigo
18:21<Brigo>ok
18:23<Brigo>192.0.1.0 not good, 192.168.1.2 much better. and you do not need the gateway line delete or comment it with a # at the start of the line.
18:24<FakeBoost>ok
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18:26<FakeBoost>did that, entered ifup eth0, and the inet now showing is not 192.168.1.2
18:27<Brigo>it is not 192.168.1.2? what then?
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18:27<FakeBoost>10.42.0.36 in eth0
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18:27<FakeBoost>anyway it is different than my other machine's address now
18:28<FakeBoost>and the main thing i Want to do is to share folders
18:28<FakeBoost>but it says connection refused by server
18:30<Brigo>FakeBoost, the system is not using your configuration, i think it is using the configuration from another place.
18:30<Brigo>are you sure there is no other iface eth0 in the interface file?
18:31<FakeBoost>it is the only one
18:31<FakeBoost>maybe i have to reconnect in the network manager
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18:32<Brigo>try to change the ip there, in n-m.
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18:32<FakeBoost>ok
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18:36<FakeBoost>done it with the network manager, it's the ip i entered.Yeah!Thanks for your help...
18:37<Brigo>np :)
18:38<FakeBoost>still i can't connect...haha
18:38<FakeBoost>one computer to the other
18:38<Brigo>FakeBoost, if you entered 192.168.1.2 in one computer, enter 192.168.1.3, in the other.
18:38<FakeBoost>ok
18:38<Brigo>the 3 first number must to be the same in both computer. and the last one different.
18:39<FakeBoost>good to know
18:39<retrospectacus>FakeBoost: how are you trying to connect, what protocol/tool
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18:41<Brigo>retrospectacus, we are only with the ips, for now :)
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18:43<FakeBoost>ssh
18:43<retrospectacus>well, you can't share files with "ping"... he said earlier "it says connection refused by server"
18:43<FakeBoost>i got disconnected now
18:43<FakeBoost>haha
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18:43<FakeBoost>because it seems also that i can't have eth and wifi at the same time now
18:43<FakeBoost>i could before
18:44<FakeBoost>i had to disconnect eth0 now
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18:45<FakeBoost>I just need to share folders via ethernet...
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18:45<FakeBoost>Is is that hard...poor me
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18:46<Asiajey>How to workaround bug like #755516 ?
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18:46<Asiajey>I have a service which depends on systemd-vconsole-setup.service , where I can edit to remove this dependecy ?
18:47<Brigo>Asiajey, are you using jessie or sid?
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18:47<Asiajey>Brigo: sid
18:48<Asiajey>Brigo: the service is gogoc
18:48<Brigo>Asiajey, ask in debian-next, then, this channel is only for stable. You can try in debian-systemd too.
18:48<Brigo>Asiajey, i think dependencies are configures in the service config file in /etc/systemd
18:49<Brigo>and if not there in /lib/systemd.
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18:49<Brigo>not completely sure about path.
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18:51<Asiajey>Brigo: thanks, seems it not here :( or may be I not understand something, will reask in #debian-systemd
18:52<Brigo>Asiajey, well, i am new to systemd too, may be my fault :)
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20:37<core_module>Hi. I would like to use a 40 by 7 VFD as a serial display for a console when I log in. I had success editing the GRUB config, but I cannot get the display to recognize key presses. How can I do this.
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20:39<Cylus>The IceWeasel logo on my browser's home page changed into a Firefox logo the other day .... but now it's back to normal. Did that happen to anyone else?
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20:46<CuZnDragon>Where would be the best place to get help with kvm/qemu from jessie?
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20:49<gsimmons>CuZnDragon: Support for Debian testing is available in #debian-next.
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20:54<CuZnDragon>Thanks
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21:26<[C]hris>why vim no colors
21:27<[C]hris>make me sad
21:27<[C]hris>and i need dpi or cleartype enabled this lcd looks not as good as it could be
21:28<cusco>hey folks
21:28<cusco>I'm looking to install debian on a HP Smart Array ....
21:29<cusco>so I loaded the module hpsa in the installer
21:29<cusco>but not sure how to detected the logical array disk
21:29<[C]hris>okay fixed the vim issue. But is there cleartype in linux?
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21:35<Jenny>cusco ~ are the disks already formatted
21:35<cusco>you mean if the array is built
21:36<cusco>?
21:36<Jenny>yes
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21:36<cusco>yes
21:36<Jenny>http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man4/hpsa.4.html
21:36<Jenny>https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/scsi/hpsa.txt
21:37<cusco>I'm thinking I need hpahcisr
21:37<cusco>or hpvsa
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21:38<Jenny>http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man4/cciss.4.html
21:38<Jenny>https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/blockdev/cciss.txt here we go
21:39<cusco>ok its a B110i
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21:42<peter1138>hmm
21:42<peter1138>the HP stuff has always worked out of the box with no driver fiddling required, fo rme
21:43<peter1138>oh wait.. hpsa
21:43<peter1138>ignore me :)
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21:43<cusco>seems that hpsa doesn't support it
21:43<cusco>need closed source stuff... :(
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21:49<terravires>hi all, does debian/grub2 now support booting off a raid-10 (mdm) array? I
21:49<terravires>I've only used it on RAID-1 in the past
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22:29<SamB_laptop>no wonder xfce doesn't load my ~/.profile, it has its own xinitrc that bypasses the usual Xsession.d stuff entirely ...
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22:30<themill>You also have the "is the X session a login shell" game.
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22:30<SamB_laptop>true
22:31<SamB_laptop>I guess it isn't when you use startx ...
22:31<SamB_laptop>or whatever
22:32<themill>I had in the back of my mind that it was the display manager that dealt with this stuff in any case
22:32<SamB_laptop>I guess I should say "use startxfce4 directly"?
22:33<SamB_laptop>themill: you could be right
22:33<SamB_laptop>but lightdm doesn't agree
22:33<themill>yeah, that rings a bell. This is one of these places where I worked out how to get it to do what I want 10 years ago and haven't bothered about it since.
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22:34<SamB_laptop>see, ten years ago I still didn't trust X to actually work right so I would start it manually
22:35<SamB_laptop>themill: so how do you set up your EMAIL, etc. env vars?
22:36<themill>~/.kde/env/ and ~/.kde/Autostart/ or ~/.bashrc depending on where it's needed
22:37<SamB_laptop>and you're not still using kdm, I assume?
22:37<themill>I use kdm
22:38<SamB_laptop>hmm, I may have heard a rumour that that sources ~/.profile anyway
22:38<themill>it may well. that may well have changed too
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22:40<themill>the dm certainly creates a login shell for me that is visible in `w`
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22:41<SamB_laptop>`w`?
22:42<SamB_laptop>ah
22:42<SamB_laptop>output of the command "w"
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22:46<SamB_laptop>themill: what was the exact commandline for that login shell?
22:46<SamB_laptop>did it come from a .desktop file?
22:47<themill>/bin/sh /usr/bin/x-session-manager
22:48<SamB_laptop>wait what
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22:51<SamB_laptop>themill: oh, did you just pick the "default session" option or something?
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22:51<themill>yep
22:53<peter1138>hmm, why does my rootfs appear in df twice? :S
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22:55<themill>peter1138: #656333
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23:00<SamB_laptop>TIL that kdm is directly based on xdm ...
23:01<sney>actually forked from it?
23:02<SamB_laptop>whatever you want to call it
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23:04<sney>that's not super surprising since kdm has been around a long time but I guess it's weird that they haven't completely started over, ever
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23:06<themill>There was talk about rebasing on lightdm
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23:06<SamB_laptop>rebasing or just switching?
23:06<themill>well, making a Qt/KDE-themed version of it
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23:09<SamB_laptop>... is it safer to use GTK/QT for a DM than for a screensaver unlock screen?
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