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01:30<Guest812>hey
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02:15<pacifier>I'm trying to compile a printer driver for ARMv6. I have downloaded the source from Brother. There is brcups_command.h brcupsconfig.c Copying cupswrapperHL2240-2.0.4
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02:18<pacifier>"Copying" is the GPL license and "cupswrapperHL2240-2.0.4" is a shell script. There is no make file (?)
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02:24<jm_>pacifier: as this is not a debian related project this sounds like a wrong channel
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02:27<jm_>compiling a single .c file should be trivial though
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02:39<pacifier>So CUPS and printer drivers are not within the scope of this channel?
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02:40<jm_>they are if we are talking about cups drivers shipped by debian
02:40<oskie>does anyone know why nmap 6.47-1 fails with Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-version.c: 224: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!
02:42<jm_>oskie: for testing/unstable ask in #debian-next
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02:42<oskie>oh, sorry. ok!
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02:49<avtobiff>pacifier, doesn't brother give any information on how to use the driver you downloaded?
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02:56<pacifier>avtobiff: I wish. I read through the shell script it appears to install the ppd with "cat <<ENDOFPPDFILE >$ppd_file_name"
02:58<avtobiff>pacifier, nothing on the web page where you downloaded it either? what about the c source code file? no build instructions in commens at the top or so?
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03:15<pacifier>avtobiff: Nothing on webpage (http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hl2240_us_eu&os=128&dlid=dlf006729_000&flang=4&type3=576)
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03:18<pacifier>Or in brcupsconfig.c http://pastebin.com/St29aPHi, or brcups_commands.h http://pastebin.com/UrxV7187, or cupswrapperHL2240-2.0.4 http://pastebin.com/M7xF6q9N
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03:35<avtobiff>pacifier, did you read this? http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/before.html?c=us&lang=en&prod=hl2240_us_eu&redirect=on
03:38<avtobiff>pacifier, i think you need to contact brother and ask them.
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04:35<enOn>gsadasd
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04:36<enOn>dsadsad
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04:39<avtobiff>enOn, stop it
04:39<enOn>Okay,Sorry
04:39<avtobiff>np
04:40<enOn>SO irc is reliable
04:40<enOn>afterall
04:40<avtobiff>it will be here after all the other web 2.0/2.5/3.0 stuff
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04:40<avtobiff>resilient tech
04:40<enOn>okay, cool
04:40<avtobiff>:)
04:40<enOn>Can I talk about Configuring Xfce4 here>??????
04:41<avtobiff>yes
04:41<enOn>Thank YOu!
04:41<avtobiff>if you quit spamming exclamations and capitalize your sentences in a sane way (preferably not at all)
04:41<avtobiff>oh and
04:41<avtobiff>!ask
04:41<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
04:42<avtobiff>don't ask to ask, and be patient for an answer
04:42<enOn>HeHe, Okay !
04:42<avtobiff>i am going afk now just so you know. :)
04:43<enOn>hehe , Okay :)
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04:51<spiky25>Got an issue >>> Error mounting /dev/sdb1 at /media/mike/563425e9-ddfd-467e-9675-6b3033aad8ec: Command-line `mount -t "ext4" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid" "/dev/sdb1" "/media/mike/563425e9-ddfd-467e-9675-6b3033aad8ec"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail
04:53<jm_>so try what the error tells you: dmesg | tail
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04:54<spiky25>http://pastebin.com/Jtw8bhcV
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04:56<avtobiff>spiky25, what does executing blkid say?
04:57<spiky25>the command not worked, command not found
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04:59<spiky25>It should help : http://pastebin.com/WeGaDpb7
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05:00<jm_>[30099.669741] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 2050
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05:00<jm_>what kind of disk is this?
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05:01<spiky25>an hdd in a hdd tray
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05:03<jm_>so the disk has either bad sectors or there's some other issue (with the tray?)
05:03<sardopale>bounjour tout le monde je suis nouveaux sur debian jaurais besoin d'aide sur l'installation d'une imprimante de type hp
05:03<spiky25>WD blue 160Gb, the hdd was a previous system drive without issues ...
05:04<spiky25>sardopale regarde à propos de cups et de hp-lips
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05:04<Marianna21> Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://tinyurl.com/oh6t4o2
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05:04<sardopale>ok merci mais tout est installer l'imprimante est reconue mais pas d'impression de document
05:05<spiky25>The tray is used, I try it but I don't expect it to don't work, I have another working if needed to try ...
05:05<jm_>!fr
05:05<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
05:05<jm_>sardopale ^^^^^^
05:05<sardopale>ok
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05:05<Emperor>morning
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05:05<spiky25>hplip désolé :P
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05:06<jm_>try connecting the drive internally and run badblocks + smart tests (and also look at smart logs)
05:06<spiky25>As-tu vérifié si elle supportée sur le site openprinting ?
05:06<jm_>please use english here
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05:12<spiky25>jm_ don't take it personnal I was helping him, I admin a group of 88k linux users so it's my ethical duty to help, sadly I'm not a guru, well in some parts of Linux ...
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05:22<Emperor>morning
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05:42<nkuttler>!pepperflash fix
05:42<dpkg>somebody said pepperflash fix was 1. Locate a cached chrome release in /var/cache/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/ (v35 works for me) 2. ar x <google-chrome-deb> 3. tar --lzma --extract --file data.tar.lzma 4. cp opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so (as root). Keep in mind that this installs an obsolete flash release which might have security implications.
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05:49<peter1138>locate a cached chrome release which i don't have? heh
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05:50<jm_>spiky25: no problem with that, but use #debian-fr
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05:54<nkuttler>peter1138: well, use your backups. doh!
05:54<nkuttler>peter1138: feel free to find a working download link to an older release
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05:59<peter1138>nkuttler, i never downloaded it before :)
05:59<wildwolf>who can help me
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06:33<SmitySmiter>hey guys, what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get? Is one better over the other?
06:33<jm_>!why aptitude
06:33<dpkg>aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. <lenny->squeeze>, <squeeze->wheezy>). http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9.
06:34<jm_>also ask dpkg about "why apt-get"
06:34<SmitySmiter>!why apt-get
06:34<dpkg>For big upgrades such as from stable to testing, apt-get will often behave better than aptitude (this used to be the other way around as aptitude was recommended for etch->lenny). Aptitude's resolver can sometimes produce unexpected results, but then apt-get will often just give up and provide no assistance in the same situation. Chose the right tool for the job and pay attention.
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06:34<SynrG>SmitySmiter: for personal inquiries, message the bot. helps keep clutter off the channel.
06:35<SmitySmiter>ah, all right :)
06:35<SynrG>SmitySmiter: you can also ask about 'why not aptitude'
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06:37<jm_>it's unfortunate that minesweeper is not mentioned as a bonus :P
06:37<SmitySmiter>umm, do you guys now any good "guides/tutorials" of securing a web server?
06:38<SmitySmiter>I have a Wheezy 7.6 server running on digitalocean.com's cloud
06:38<SmitySmiter>*know any
06:39<SynrG>any such guide would be highly specific to the web server software.
06:39<SmitySmiter>hmm, true. It's all right, I'll find my way through ^_^
06:40<SynrG>... as well as specific to the distro in which it is deployed. start with the supplied documentation?
06:41<SmitySmiter>I already have my server up and running + websites live
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06:42<SmitySmiter>I just wanted to go through a "check list" sort of thing, to minimize chances of getting hacked
06:42<SynrGy>i don't understand how securing digitalocean.com is a debian support question, though
06:42<SynrGy>unless i have misunderstood what they actually deliver
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06:43<start>how to upgrade debian 5?
06:43<SmitySmiter>digitalocean.com is not my site, they provide cloud service, and my server is setup with them
06:43<SynrGy>is it stock debian?
06:43<SmitySmiter>and yes, asking here wasn't a really great idea, my bad
06:43<SynrGy>if they provide a customized debian image, see their doc.
06:44<SmitySmiter>yes :)
06:44<SmitySmiter>thank you ^_^
06:44<SynrGy>np
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06:44<peter1138>start, upgrade to 6, then 7
06:44<start>oh
06:44<peter1138>dpkg, lenny->squeeze
06:44<dpkg>Remove volatile & backports from /etc/apt/sources.list changing lenny to squeeze. Use apt-get for the upgrade: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` udev". Install firmware-linux-nonfree if needed; check you have a 2.6.32 kernel installed "aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'" and reboot into it. "apt-get dist-upgrade". READ THE <squeeze release notes>.
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06:47<SynrG>start: yeah, and in general, you must always upgrade from release to release and not skip any.
06:48<start>anyone know how to raise resolution?
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06:49<start>(gnome)
06:49<SynrG>start: one thing that can help, of course, is if your system has 'cruft' (packages no longer in use), you can make the process less painful if you get rid of it before starting the process.
06:49<SynrG>start: 'raise resolution'? are you asking about this for squeeze?
06:49<start>no lenny
06:49<SynrG>ouch?
06:50<SynrG>it's no longer supported at all, so, can't really help :/
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06:50<start>hard to edit the source list with such low resolution
06:50<SynrG>there's no magic "raise your resolution" option :) if you're not seeing the full resolution the monitor ought to be capable of, it's probably a driver issue ...
06:50<SynrG>with no simple solution
06:50<SynrG>ssh to the box from a system with reasonable resolution?
06:51<SynrG>or you might just ctrl-alt-f1 and login to console. could give you better text editor resolution than otherwise
06:51<start>ok, I set a differnt font in editor, so it will be ok
06:51<SynrG>yep
06:52<SynrG>start: you've dug an old box out of the closet and hooked it up to a monitor to upgrade ... ?
06:52<SynrG>you gotta consider, if that's the case, if a fresh install might be less painful :)
06:52<start>yes
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06:53<SynrG>however, if you're doing this for entertainment/educational purposes ...
06:54<peter1138>i would recommend logging out the desktop environment and doing an upgrade from console
06:54<SynrG>yep
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07:27<start>I got "Unable to migrate to dependency-based boot system"
07:27<jm_>that should not be a fatal error and is usually simple to fix
07:28<jm_>!missing lsb tags
07:28<dpkg>From 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, Debian uses a dependency-based boot sequence (see /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.Debian). This requires all init scripts having appropriate headers, so that the correct order of execution can be determined. Scripts like S25libdevmapper1.02 are left over from 3.1 "Sarge" and can be deleted; your own scripts will need LSB headers added: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
07:28<jm_>that's the most common problem
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07:29<start>so, should I just press ok? or should I copy the error mesage and save it for further investigation?
07:29<shiva>hi
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07:30<start>or would "dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc" output the same message later?
07:31<start>jm_, ^
07:32<jm_>start: just press OK, you can migrate to it later if you want
07:34<start>ok
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07:51<oznt>hi guys, I am tried to install a package I built myself, when I install it with dpkg -i mypackage.deb it complains: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
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07:52<oznt>but when I run the post installation script myself, it runs properly, what can I do to solve the problem?
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07:53<jm_>try using dpkg -D2 and see if it shows mores, otherwise add debugging to your postinst script (for shell use "set -x")
07:53<jm_>more even
07:54<oznt>jm_: I did try that, but I don't see any error , like I said my postinst script runs flawlessly
07:54<jm_>oznt: apparently not
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07:55<oznt>jm_: let me ask you, if a command that runs inside the script puts an output to stderr or stdout dpkg thinks it's a problem?
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07:55<jm_>oznt: not that I know, but what's its exit code?
07:56<jm_>are you sure the command runs without a real tty?
07:56<oznt>jm_: the script exits with 0, about the tty, I am not sure. how do I make sure?
07:57<jm_>oznt: try using strace -s 256 -f -v then
07:57<oznt>http://paste.debian.net/120958/ this is the output of the script and dpkg -i D2
07:58<jm_>subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
07:58<jm_>so it's not exit 0
07:58<oznt>jm_: that is the problem. that when debian runs the script it some how thinks there is an error, but not when I call it with bash
07:58<oznt>so I don't get how to debug it.
07:59<jm_>oznt: like I said, put "set -x" in your script at the top (obviously after any #! lines) or use strace to get some info
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08:00<jm_>also run echo $? after your bassh -x ... test
08:00<jm_>and are you sure your script works with /bin/sh?
08:00<oznt>jm_: I just pasted the output with -x
08:00<oznt>jm, no I am not sure it works with bin/sh
08:00<jm_>oznt: that might be or might not be the same as when dpkg runs it ...
08:00<jm_>oznt: so start by testing that first
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08:00<oskie>if I shrink the disk after having shrunk the root fs with GParted, and reboot, I will lose partition table
08:01<oskie>(this is with GPT)
08:02<oznt>jm_: it works with /bin/sh checkout the output with /bin/sh -x http://paste.debian.net/120960/
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08:02<oznt>I don't see the error.
08:03<oznt>petn-randall: do i need to write 'return 0' explicitly in the end of the script to make dpkg happy ?
08:03<jm_>oznt: then like I said, do test it with other methods I mentioned
08:04<petn-randall>oznt: You can, but from the looks of it it fails earlier.
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08:05<oznt>jm_: you mean I should invoke the script like this:strace -s 256 -f -v /bin/sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/mongodb-plan-net.postinst?
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08:06<oznt>petn-randall: but according to /bin/sh -x strace -s 256 -f -v /bin/sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/mongodb-plan-net.postinst it run all the way to the end
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08:06<jm_>oznt: no, you can edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/mongodb-plan-net.postinst and add "set -x" in appropriate place then run dpkg --pending --configure and you should see sh debugging, otherwise its strace -s 256 -f -v -o /tmp/str.txt dpkg -i ...
08:07<oznt>could it be that dpkg is just sensitive to commands outputing stuff to std error?
08:07<petn-randall>oznt: Running from your shell or from dpkg is completely different, the one is a login shell, the other isn't.
08:07<petn-randall>oznt: A lot of things aren't set the same, $PATH just being one example.
08:08<oznt>petn-randall: ok, but if the path was wrong it would have complained command not found ...
08:08<petn-randall>oznt: Add '#!/bin/bash -x' to the post-inst script, and then install it again.
08:08<jm_>indeed, running commands like shown there is asking for trouble (talking about your use of sv without full path)
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08:10<ixi>someone suggest me a tool - I want to ping some servers every second 24/7/365 and save stats of availability and ping times
08:10<ixi>anything in apt that I can use ?
08:11<oznt>IMHO the problem is that dpkg sees the output: warning: mongodb: unable to open supervise/ok: file does not exist and thinks it's a problem.
08:11<ixi>bonus points for image graps capability
08:12<jm_>oznt: no
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08:13<petn-randall>ixi: icinga?
08:14<jm_>you can use mrtg to store ping results and graph them later, as far as ready projects go, not sure if anything can be used for 1s granularity
08:14<petn-randall>ixi: nagios, shinken, monit ... basically any of the several monitoring solutions. But I'm anticipating that you probably want to do more, so tell us about that. :)
08:14<ixi>I have already munin installed
08:14<ompaul>script that says: ping -i foo | tee >> mylogfoo and then bar and >> mylogbar and so on
08:15<ixi>but it runs its collect jobs every 5 minutes only
08:15<ixi>so thats one ping every 5 minutes
08:15<ixi>not helpful
08:15<petn-randall>!enter
08:15<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
08:15<ompaul>ixi: ping -i 1 and so on
08:15<petn-randall>ixi: icinga2 can do second-resolution pinging.
08:15<ompaul>trivial stuff really
08:16<ixi>I'll look at icinga now
08:16<petn-randall>ixi: Notice that icinga2 is a rewrite of icinga, with a different configuration syntax.
08:17<ixi>petn-randall can you tell me if it can generate static files to serve with nginx
08:17<petn-randall>ixi: It works with nginx, yes. But not static files.
08:17<ompaul>ixi: wow how trivial is this task - your >> to the path to your nginx folder sorts that out
08:18*ompaul considers this answered
08:19<ixi>ok
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08:19<ompaul>up to you to fill the gaps the cron job with a master script to check that it is running and restart it if it falls over
08:20<ompaul>don't forget to rotate the logs maybe once every 24 hours is good
08:20<ompaul>so stick the date into the file name
08:20<casper366>Hi. Where is the differnece between avconv and ffmpeg?
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08:21<start> can I do something that all answers will be NO in the upgrade process?
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08:22<start>(the process all the time hang waiting for me, because I am not next to it)
08:22<ompaul> don't run auto upgrades
08:22<ompaul>just do apt-get update
08:23<ompaul>echo y | apt-get -d dist-upgrade
08:23<ompaul>so at least you have the packages
08:23<ompaul>downloaded
08:23<jm_>I suspect (s)he's being asked about config files
08:23<jm_>because it's a dist upgrade from lenny ;)
08:23<ompaul>jm_: and my answer remains the same :)
08:23<ompaul>w o t
08:23<ompaul>oh lovely
08:24<ompaul>so lenny -> squeeze -> wheezy
08:24<ompaul>faster to reinstall
08:24<oliver_>but less fun/educational :P
08:24<jm_>echo y | would not really would it? maybe you meant yes?
08:25<ompaul>echo y | apt-get dist-upgrade -d will download all packages
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08:26<ompaul>the position of the -d can be in front or after the dist-upgrade
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08:26<jm_>yeah but it won't help with dpkg asking about config files
08:26-!-bsd [~bsd@2a02:2f0a:3057:c800:6ab5:99ff:fe68:669a] has quit []
08:26<oliver_>http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.automatic-upgrades.html
08:26<ompaul>well if that is the case ... don't do it while you are not there
08:27<oliver_>don't know if this is available in <wheezy, though
08:27<ompaul>and manually do an n only where it is sensible
08:27<jm_>yeah it's better to invest some time and do it properly
08:27<oliver_>maybe the old timers can inform you as to that
08:27<ompaul>the thing is that not changing some configs will break the new program
08:29<jm_>that's why I always log dist upgrades, answer y and then go back through the log to modify updated configs
08:31<ixi>casper366 there was some stuff not working in avconv
08:31<ixi>some time ago
08:31<ixi>related to vobsub subtitle format ...
08:31<ixi>it works in ffmpeg, not sure maybe it got fixed already but that's one change I know of
08:31<petn-randall>start: set your debconf level as high as possible, that'll get rid of the interactivity. I'm assuming that you read the changelog and fix up the config afterwards, though.
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08:32<casper366>ixi: Thanks. Its just funny, because ffmpeg has a msg saying its deprecated, and one should use avconv.
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08:33<ixi>I wouldn't be quite so sure about that just yet
08:33<ixi>time will show.
08:33<martin21>Hi! I have a packaging question about how to handle a second init script in a package, but I do not see a debian-devel english channel… where to ask this?
08:34<ompaul>!mentors
08:34<dpkg>well, mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net).
08:34<martin21>thanks, joined, will ask there
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09:01<ramon>hola
09:02<avtobiff>hola!
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09:03<ramon>soy de san luis argentina y soy novato
09:03<OdyX>!es
09:03<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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10:33<start>petn-randall, debconf level?
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10:52<start>so now I am on squeeze... how to up the resolution?
10:53<ompaul>move to wheezy
10:53<start>again.. let me rest a bit
10:53<ompaul>see the topic for the channel
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10:53<start>I just moved from lenny to squeeze
10:54<SmitySmiter>ompaul, hey
10:54<SmitySmiter>do you know if nginx 1.6 is available for Wheezy? in the main repos?
10:55<ompaul>SmitySmiter: I think it is in the high 1.4s
10:55<ompaul>hang on
10:55<ompaul>,v nginx
10:55<judd>Package: nginx on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2~bpo60+2; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy2; wheezy-backports: 1.6.0-1~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.6.1-1~bpo70+1; sid: 1.6.1-2; jessie: 1.6.1-2
10:55<start>gnome-control center doesn't give me an option to up the rez
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10:55<SmitySmiter>hmm, so it's 1.2 on Wheezy main repos?
10:55<start>ok, I am going down again
10:55<start>bye
10:56<ompaul>SmitySmiter: so you can see how to get 1.6 from backports
10:56<start>anyone know about the resolution?
10:56<ompaul>SmitySmiter: note this, don't just grab anything unless you have a really good reason
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10:56<SmitySmiter>I did a scan of my website, and it said nginx 1.2 is dangerously old
10:56<ompaul>SmitySmiter: stick with the stable version in wheezy
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10:57<SmitySmiter>hmm, all right. hopefully it'll be updated soon
10:57<ompaul>SmitySmiter: I use it on a production web server and I got a pen test for PCI not a problem you just have to do a few little things which I will tell you
10:57<SmitySmiter>yes?
10:58<ompaul>SmitySmiter: the first thing is to reduce the ciphers for ssl
10:58<ompaul>and ssh
10:58<ompaul>then you are good to go :)
10:58<SmitySmiter>reduce?
10:58<ompaul>SmitySmiter: yes, some of the older ciphers can be done without
10:58<ompaul>if someone uses a modern browser
10:59<ompaul>if you are not willing to force people to use a modern browser then you have to accommodate them
10:59<SmitySmiter>I am willing to force them! :D
10:59<ompaul>SmitySmiter: I'll paste a couple of things
10:59<SmitySmiter>all right ^_^
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11:01<zenpho>whoops
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11:08<ompaul>SmitySmiter: this might be informative http://paste.debian.net/hidden/76347eb0/
11:09<ompaul>SmitySmiter: I use nginx as a front door reverse proxy to a web server that bleeds all sorts of stupidity so basically it is my extra firewall rules :)
11:09<ompaul>the box does not do credit cards I just had to get to that standard :)
11:09<SmitySmiter>I use nginx as a reverse proxy too ^_^
11:09<ompaul>if it was a card box I'd have to a lot of extra work with it
11:10<SmitySmiter>have Apache and Cherrypy running behind
11:11<ompaul>SmitySmiter: stable works like this, security issues get patched
11:11<ompaul>that way you look up a CVE number and you can check if it has been patched
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11:11<SmitySmiter>well if 1.2 is safe enough (for the time being, my site has 0 popularity, so I'm safe like that too)
11:11<ompaul>that's called security though obsecurity
11:12<ompaul>and it doesn't work
11:12<ompaul>that's like moving your ssh port and thinking it is safe - it is safer than one on 22 but it's not safe from attack
11:12<SmitySmiter>of course, I was just saying
11:13<ompaul>learn to use nmap
11:13<ompaul>and to understand what it means to you ...
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11:13<ompaul>what is visible is what will be attacked
11:13<SmitySmiter>hmm
11:13<SmitySmiter>I ran a few scans to check all open ports
11:14<SmitySmiter>also have CSF running, I've only let very few ports open
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11:17<start>resolution?
11:17<start>anyone?
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11:17<start>how to raise in gnome, in squeeze?
11:17<ompaul>start: upgrade to wheezy
11:17<start>oh, you serious?
11:17<ompaul>start: very
11:17<start>why? oh why?
11:18<start>squeeze cant do 1024x768?
11:18<ompaul>remove your /etc/xorg/xorg.conf and restart x
11:18<centrx>start, his answer is somewhat unrelated to the question
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11:18<centrx>start, but you should upgrade as squeeze is getting pretty old now
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11:19<start>how long is whezy around?
11:19<ompaul>start: on May 4th, 2013 wheezy was released
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11:20<start>ok
11:20<start>maybe I will upgrade then
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11:22<start>ompaul, I dont have /etc/xorg*
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11:24<ompaul>start: well the thing is that wheezy is running a newer X and it should work better
11:24<ompaul>start: maybe that is lucky you
11:25<ompaul>start: so the dist-upgrade how far are you into it already
11:25<ompaul>please read the upgrade notes
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11:31<start>sorry , my computer froze
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11:31<start>I was saying, that I don't have etc/xorg
11:31<ompaul>start: how is that upgrade coming along - btw a freeze is a bad things
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11:32<start>true
11:32<start>but, I hate upgrading
11:32<start>so I didn't start yet
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11:34<start>if it will work with squeeze, I will keep it
11:36<ompaul>what video card has that box got
11:37<start>some Geforce
11:37<ompaul>too little information
11:37<start>I think in the 8xxx series
11:37<start>GeForce 7300
11:38<ompaul>https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
11:38<ompaul>start: you should upgrade and I'll leave it there
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11:47<start>I installed a pci card, but I don't see it in lspci
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11:59<ompaul>SmitySmiter: you should actually say what you got as data and not conflate things
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12:09<spiky25>Thunar show not authorized to perform action when trying to mount a hdd being a hdd caddy, I use Debian testing, does the updates have bring a change like systemd that could be related, how I fix this ?
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12:11<SmitySmiter>will keep in mind next time ^_^
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12:23<Fakeboost>Hello, do I have to replace all quoted words with the actual descriptions? As in this wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#configure
12:23<Fakeboost>Do I have to put Nvidia in "device"?
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12:23<peter1138>no, leave it exactly as it
12:23<peter1138>+is
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12:24<peter1138>"My GPU" can be changed but there's no point
12:24<Fakeboost>I dont get it
12:25<peter1138>what don't you get?
12:25<Fakeboost>My file matches what this wiki is describing
12:25<Fakeboost>but,
12:25<Fakeboost>where it says driver "nvidia", is that it?
12:25<Fakeboost>nothing more?
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12:27<peter1138>...
12:28<peter1138>you need exactly what is written on the wiki
12:28<Fakeboost>The thing is I have slow graphics
12:28<Fakeboost>And I dont know why is that
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12:30<spiky25>Thunar show not authorized to perform action when trying to mount a hdd being a hdd caddy, I use Debian testing, does the updates have bring a change like systemd that could be related, how I fix this ?
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12:32<peter1138>spiky25, #debian-next for testing support
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14:30<rrrrrrrrr>tengo 15 soy mujer estoy caliente
14:31<rrrrrrrrr>hola my name is rrrrr
14:31<planetmaker>!es
14:31<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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14:32<celia>me parto we
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14:33<celia>HOLA
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14:33<celia>ME PARTO
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14:35<alumno_>Sasasasasara
14:35<alumno_>checheche
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14:35<alumno_>cheque chaeque cheque cheka
14:35<alumno_>soy un quesito
14:35<alumno_>nadie va a hablar :c
14:36<alumno_>how are you cows?
14:36<alumno_>no mamen
14:36<planetmaker>what about having off-topic chat in #moocows?
14:36<alumno_>hablen ahora o callen para kempes
14:36<alumno_>in Argentina man
14:36<alumno_>you?
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14:37<alumno_>cuanto años tenes wacho quere cojer?¡
14:37<alumno_>fue jauni
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14:37<alumno_>rudi :D
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14:38<alumno_>me chamo charles gianelli
14:39<alumno_>hablen coño
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14:43<Don>Buenas
14:45<Don>nadie habla u_u
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14:46<planetmaker>you're only moderately funny, Don/alumno_/troll/...
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14:47<Don>Hello
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14:50<Pixionus>!ask Don
14:50<Pixionus>!ask
14:50<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:51<Don>answer me
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14:54<ompaul>Don: read the instruction about how to ask
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14:55<Don>what is ask?
14:56<ompaul>!es
14:56<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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14:57<Don>gracias
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15:00<DrDamnit>I setup Debian 7.4 with LVM and individual partitions. (/home, /usr, etc...). Problem is: I have quickly run out of space in /opt (I am trying to setup firefox and chrome, for example). What's the best practice to reconfigure this so I have much more space in /opt/ for applications?
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15:01<centrx>DrDamnit, Use parted/gparted to resize partitions
15:02<centrx>DrDamnit, Also for future reference, you usually want just one all-encompassing partition for an easy normal desktop system
15:03<centrx>DrDamnit, Also, for best reliability and security updates, use the Debian versions of Firefox and Chrome, from the Debian repository
15:03<centrx>DrDamnit, (iceweasel and chromium)
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15:03<DrDamnit>centrx, That's what Ihave normally done. But, for recovery, etc.. and other reasons, I wanted to test out this type of setup. Iceweasel doesn't support sync yet, so wanted to use the downloaded version.
15:03<centrx>ok
15:04<DrDamnit>I thought that might be the case (gparted). But since I have not used LVM before, I thought there might be a better way.
15:04<DrDamnit>(LVM + encrypted volumes).
15:04<centrx>oh I don't know about LVM actually
15:04<centrx>sorry
15:04<DrDamnit>Yeah... I normally don't use it either, but it is far easy to configure encrypted disks with LVM than otherwise.
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15:24<brunoramos>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709862 - Could someone confirm this bug is not supposed to be accepted? Apparently the report comes from an ubuntu system. Does Debian accept this kind of bugs?
15:24<brunoramos>And is this the right channel to ask questions about bug triage and BTS commands ?
15:25<centrx>sure, you might want #debian-mentors
15:25<centrx>bugs in the BTS should be found on Debian systems
15:26<centrx>Ubuntu bugs go to Ubuntu, upstream bugs go to upstream
15:26<centrx>upstream/Ubuntu bugs found in Debian go in the BTS too
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15:30<brunoramos>Ok, thank you centrx.
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16:20<pudor>hi all!any tool for gpu load in percents or any units in debian?
16:20<pudor>like gpu-z for windows?
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16:25<oskie>helo, I have a wheezy system with NFS root (PXE boot). sometimes, like 20% of the time, the server hangs during shut down. It keeps repeating NFS timeout. It should be possible to fix this somehow..
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16:39<sylar>can anything be done about a PCI card that lspci doesn't show? but in an other computer lspci does show it?
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16:42<somiaj>do you have another pci port you can plug it into, sounds like a bad pci slot.
16:43<sylar>yes, I have an other
16:43<sylar>I will give it a try
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16:52<sylar>Thanks somiaj :D
16:52<sylar>it is recognized in an other slot
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17:01<Human_G33k>hi can we separate /boot and / for crypting ?
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17:41<grummund>Hi all, anyone here that manages to successfully use Tesco (UK) banking site with debian?
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18:21<somiaj>Human_G33k: yes you can make a seperate /boot partition and put a non-encrypted file system on it, I actually thought that was the normal susgest too.
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18:22<somiaj>grummund: what isn't working? Does this sight require a java plugin? If so what webbrowser do you use?
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18:24<grummund>somiaj: iceweasel. it complains every time that it "does not recognise this computer"
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18:25<somiaj>knowing nothing about what the bank requires I don't know why it would say that.
18:26<somiaj>do you have to do something to authenticate the computer first so your bank knows it is trusted. Also do they say anything on their sight about the requirements needed such as java?
18:26<grummund>i'm guessing it's to do with storing cookies or something
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18:27<uzername1283>hi. where can i ask about vdpau on jessie? does anybody know?
18:27<somiaj>That shouldn't be an issue provided you can relogin and get a session going. I woudln't think the defaults of iceweasel would stop session cookies
18:27<somiaj>uzername1283: #debian-next is the jessie/sid support channel.
18:27<uzername1283>thanks
18:28<grummund>somiaj: yeah it's poor design... my query is on the off chance that others use it succesfully.
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18:30<somiaj>grummund: well some banks use java, others use AJAX, so kinda hard to guess what is going on. Again I would look for a requirements page that explains what is reuiqred and hopefully it is more detailed than 'windows 7 or newer'
18:31<grummund>it says to enable cookies
18:32<somiaj>and I assumed you did that maybe turn the privacy settings way down in iceweasel and accept all cookies (I think by default they are a bit picky these days)
18:33<grummund>yes, reluctantly i ticked everything to accept/remember cookies
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18:41<Mascondante>Is the main repo insanely slow today or is it just me?
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18:51<somiaj>Mascondante: main repo is fairly vague, I'm sure you mean mirror, and it totally depends on what mirror you are using.
18:52<Mascondante>Get: 1 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main coreutils armel 8.23-2 [2551 kB]
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18:53<somiaj>Mascondante: it could be ftp.de.debian.org mirror is running slow. I think there is some push to get people off those mirrors and use http.debian.net as the main mirror and let its geoip redirector pick a close mirror to you.
18:54<somiaj>http.debian.net I think just tries to pick a close geoip mirror and may not be the fastest to you, there is some application to try to find a fast mirror but I forget its name
18:55<Mascondante>I will update accordingly. Thank you, somiaj. No worries. If you happen to remember just let me know. I've got a slew of questions for the #debian-arm channel so I'll be here a while.
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18:56<Mascondante>Mainly what steps need to be taken to get a WM and XServer app on my Android to talk to each other without bugging out.
18:57<somiaj>No clue, I haven't tried to put debian on andriod/arm devices.
18:57<somiaj>but you shouldn't cross post, sometimes it may be a bit until someone who has the experience/knowledge you need to see your question, so just be patiant and wait
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18:59<Mascondante>In short I can see why there are very few people who have posted any such animal. Setting up from a very small core chroot install has been very confusing and involved. But I've learned a lot. No better way to learn linux then have to build from the ground up I suppose. I agree. I'll drop the subject in this channel.
18:59<petn-randall>Mascondante: I think somiaj was thinking about netselect-apt
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19:00<Mascondante>Thank you petn-randall
19:00<petn-randall>Mascondante: You're welcome!
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19:03<Mascondante>One question that would seem to be universal across all archs is how likely is the testing version to be bugged enough to cause major issues?
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19:08<somiaj>Mascondante: depends on the packages you use, and the current state of it. Many use testing with few issues (or know how to fix the ones you find)
19:09<somiaj>but at times in the i386/amd64 world I've seen ati or nvidia drivers not like the newer xorg that got pushed in and it be weeks or more until there is a funcitioning x-server with nonfree dirvers
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19:38<ivan>i'm experiencing a strange behaviour by apt-get, running apt-get remove iceweasel tells me that apart from removing iceweasel it's going to install 129 packages - some kde stuff, vlc and a bunch of libraries, removal of other packages doesnt seem to trigger this. does anybody know why this could be happening?
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19:56<iper>I cuestion for you
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19:56<iper>and this important for my
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20:00<iper>hello
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20:08<_flip>hi
20:09<_flip>iper, just ask
20:09<_flip>!ask
20:09<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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20:10<iper>My quetin is a good documentation for started for modify the ernel
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20:12<iper>ernel*
20:12<iper>kernel*
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20:15<_flip>iper: have you looked at https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en already?
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20:17<sney>!kernel handbook
20:17<dpkg>The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ - packaged as debian-kernel-handbook since Debian 7 "Wheezy" - serves as a single access point to all kernel-related documentation. See chapter 4.2 to rebuild official Debian kernel packages, see chapter 4.5 to build a custom kernel from Debian kernel source.
20:17<sney>weird, I wonder why the former document still references make-kpkg
20:18<iper>thanks!!!!
20:19<iper>dpkg
20:19<iper>I'm desevolp a iinternet with audio
20:19<_flip>is kpkg no longer used?
20:19<sney>it was obsolete as soon as upstream added a 'deb-pkg' target to the stock Makefile
20:19<iper>why
20:20<iper>that complicate this ernel
20:20<sney>so now all you do is configure the kernel whatever way you want, and then 'make deb-pkg', and it accepts any normal make options etc
20:20<_flip>ah cool
20:20<iper>not normal configuration
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20:37<iper>thanks i bye and read tomorrow
20:38<iper>and i write by i like this information
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21:14<topcyde>Anybody come across someone working Debian onto an Intel Edison? I've tried looking occasionally the last couple days and haven't seen anything.
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22:38<spurious>Hello.. My laptop install is failing because the installer can't find the CDROM. There is no CD-ROM, it's booting from USB. I tried expert mode, doesn't seem to make a difference.
22:38<spurious>Any pointers?
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22:42<spurious>Maybe my install media is bad. I'm going to try a new download, using the live cd instead of the dvd1
22:43<rudi_s>spurious: If you have internet, use the netinstall iso and dd it on your usb stick.
22:44<spurious>There's a manual step to enable wifi networking on the laptop post install.. it doesn't have ethernet.
22:44<spurious>Thanks, though, rudi_s
22:45<spurious>My fault for getting an ultrabook that's thinner than an ethernet port ;)
22:47<spurious>hrm, this is shedding some light. It seems to not be writing to the media completely. The livecd complained about not finding a filesystem with the right media, now its giving out usb errors about reading config indexes..
22:48<spurious>I must not be doing 'cat debian-disk.iso > /dev/sdd; sync' properly. Maybe I need to wait longer for sync command.. is that run in the background?
22:49<spurious>I'll use 'dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdd' instead
22:49<rudi_s>spurious: No. If sync is complete, then the data is on the disk.
22:49<rudi_s>Both cat and dd should do the same.
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22:51<spurious>Should I zero out the rest of the disk first? It's 128gb, and the installers are 1.3 and 4.7gb
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22:52<rudi_s>spurious: No. Just the cat/dd is enough.
22:52<rudi_s>If that doesn't work, something else must be broken.
22:53<spurious>Ok
22:53<spurious>I don't like giving up on things, but maybe I'll just try to locate my usb cdrom drive if this next install fails..
22:53<rudi_s>Good luck. (Have to go.)
22:53<spurious>Thanks, rudi_s
22:53<rudi_s>np
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22:57<spurious>ffff... It was because it was in a USB 3.0 socket
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23:00<spurious>Somehow it could load the installer, but not let the installer read the contents.. weird.
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23:38<zin>I have Q4OS a debian based lightweight distro installed on a usb flash drive.I am looking for a way to auto mount partitions on whatever computer that I boot into, like a short cut to editing fstab...for example ubuntu has a trick called Storage Device Manager that apt-get install pysdm invokes...Thanks for any help
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23:41<sney>zin: unfortunately, #debian only supports debian. if q4os has their own irc channel, ask them. otherwise, ##linux on freenode
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