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00:17<SnShines>hey
00:17<SnShines>anyone here?
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01:55<sylar>so much time later and it still compiling
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02:30<h7251>hello, I configured user quotas to 250Mb strict which works just fine If I try to create a larger file
02:31<h7251>for example, if I generate the maximum allowed size file and use echo a>>largefile
02:31<h7251>I get an error message re. exceeded quota (as expected)
02:31<h7251>however If I do su foobar 2>>largefile
02:31<h7251>w/o a foobar user su prints an error on stderr, and the file keeps growing
02:32<h7251>circumventing the quota setting
02:32<h7251>can anyone offer an explanation for that?
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02:33<themill>your shell is creating that file not su -- double check the ownership of the large file
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02:34<h7251>its owned user/group by the user subject to quota
02:34<h7251>is it possible that it's b/c su is setuid root?
02:35<h7251>e.g., any other (non suid root) executable does not work for the same purpose
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02:37<themill>What precise command are you running and what user is running it?
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02:39<h7251>quotatool -u user -b -l '250 Mb' /home
02:39<h7251>to configure the quota for a user called user
02:39<h7251>su user
02:39<h7251>dd if=/dev/zero of=exceed_quota bs=1024000 count=260
02:39<h7251>sda6: write failed, user block limit reached.
02:39<h7251>dd: writing `exceed_quota': Disk quota exceeded
02:39<h7251>256+0 records in
02:39<h7251>255+0 records out
02:39-!-h7251 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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02:40<h7251>oops
02:40<themill>h7251: please use a pastebin
02:40<h7251>yes I was reminded by debhelper
02:40<h7251>and a swift kick in the rear end
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02:42<h7251>http://paste.debian.net/122176/
02:42<h7251>should present the whole
02:42<h7251>case
02:43<h7251>quota are set to 250Mb strict
02:43<h7251>so the dd is terminated once the file reached the quota
02:43<h7251>appending from echo does not work anymore
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02:43<h7251>BUT appending with stderr from su does work
02:44<Gogeta70>hey, what's up guys
02:44<h7251>i.e., line 10 vs. line 21
02:44<themill>h7251: what user ran "su foobar 2>>exceed_quota" ?
02:44<Gogeta70>so i'm looking at upgrading my kernel from 3.2 to 3.6
02:45<h7251>the regular user "user"
02:45<h7251>it's all from the same prompt
02:45<Gogeta70>i've never done this before, so i'm wondering if i should back up my entire hard drive :/
02:45<Gogeta70>do you guys think that's necessary?
02:45<h7251>Gogeta70: it's always good to have a backup --- better safe than sorry
02:46<Gogeta70>of course, just backing up a 750gb hdd is not a very quick task
02:46<Gogeta70>we're talking a couple days at least
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02:46<Gogeta70>i guess what i'm more concerned about is breaking my debian install
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02:47<h7251>Gogeta70: do you have a debian package for 3.6?
02:47<Gogeta70>no, but i can download the source
02:47<h7251>if so you should be able to install kernels side by side w/o affecting your old setup (i.e., you can easily go back from the bootloader)
02:47<Gogeta70>oh?
02:48<h7251>assuming you're using a platform where you have such fancy things (e.g. amd64/i386/etc)
02:48<Gogeta70>if you don't mind taking a quick look, do you think following this quick guide is a safe bet? http://verahill.blogspot.com/2012/10/compiling-kernel-36-on-debian.html
02:48<Gogeta70>yeah, amd64 with an intel i7 processor
02:48<Gogeta70>not a very old laptop ;)
02:49<h7251>the article you posted uses debians make-kpkg tool, that's what I usually do if I have to roll my own kernel
02:50<h7251>themill: did my answer help understand the problem?
02:50<Gogeta70>following those instructions will add an entry in grub for the new kernel, then?
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02:50<Gogeta70>if i'm able to boot my old kernel if things go awry that's quite a relief
02:51<h7251>in my experience that's exactly the case
02:51<Gogeta70>awesome :D
02:52<Gogeta70>one last question: at the bottom of the article, it lists a bunch of new things in kernel 3.6... is it safe to answer "yes" to all those? i don't know what half of those are lol
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02:53<h7251>I don't know what the vast majority of kernel configuration settings are, unless I need something specific, I usually go with the defaults
02:54<Gogeta70>i see
02:54<Gogeta70>alright, i'll give this a try
02:54<Gogeta70>wish me luck! and thank you for your help :)
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02:59<h7251>themill: so I think what's going on is that the shell opens the output file of the redirection and then calls execve(/bin/su) which is setuid root, and when that process tries to write to stderr the write succeeds b/c the euid is 0
03:02<h7251>hm this would mean that the blocksize quota can be circumvented arbitrarily by unprivileged users --- I must be missing something
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03:44<m2og3>Hello!
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04:35<maca>hola
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04:35<Guest366>quien conocido que???
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04:38<knoppix_>hi
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04:39<Guest368>hi
04:43<babilen>Guest368: yes?
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04:49<sylar>how do I know which patch is the last patch to apply with dpatch-edit-patch?
04:50<babilen>sylar: → #debian-mentors please
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05:20<AlsaSchroot>I installed a jessie chroot on wheezy, and entered the chroot with "schroot -c jessie", and then try "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav", which fails with "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1022:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave". Ideas how to solve ?
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05:25<mongrol>geee, justed changed from XFCE to MAte and I'm very impressed
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05:45<ixi>impressed with what?
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05:49<panos>hello
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06:08<bm>Hi!
06:08<bm>Is there a way for me to use debian without GNOME?
06:09<bm>Instead of GNOME I would like to use XFCE
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06:09<bm>Thanks in advance
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06:10<devil_>sure. install xfce4
06:10<devil_>tell your login manager you want to boot xfce4
06:10<devil_>later yozu can remove gnome
06:11<bm>SO , should I install debian normally
06:11<bm>and then do everything else later on the bash shell?
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06:11<bm>Thank You.
06:11<bm>Good bye.
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06:19<kapouer>"a start job is running for Create Volatile Files and Directories"
06:19<kapouer>:(
06:20<kapouer>any other systemd victim this morning ?
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06:29<devil_>not so far. but there is uslessd to the rescue ;)
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06:30<nacif>nacif
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06:31<devil_>strong password :)
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06:37<kapouer>tried downgrading systemd to 208, no success
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07:23<kapouer>ha damn, downgrading grub didn't do it either
07:23<kapouer>what exactly does Create Volatile Files and Directories target is ?
07:24<devil_>kapouer: this is the wrong channel for systemd as stable does not have it yet
07:24<kapouer>ha ok
07:24<devil_>kapouer: please use #debian-next or #debian-systemd
07:25<kapouer>going to next as i'm not even sure it's a systemd problem
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07:46<peter1138>devil_, stable *does* have systemd
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08:08<devil_>peter1138: since?
08:09<devil_>oh, 44-11+deb7u4
08:09<devil_>it is not used automaticaly used or even installed though
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08:09<devil_>and 44 has not much to do with the current 215
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08:50<Fakeboost>Hello, how do I set a truetype font for lxterminal?
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09:16<valdyn>Fakeboost: same way you set any font in lxterminal
09:16<Fakeboost>with setfont?
09:16<valdyn>Fakeboost: no?
09:16<Fakeboost>either with that or preferences, the truetype font i want to set is not recognzed
09:17<valdyn>Fakeboost: its in the preferences
09:17<valdyn>Fakeboost: and of course truetype fonts are recognised
09:17<Fakeboost>mm, ill try again...
09:18<Fakeboost>no, not there...
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09:22<Fakeboost>im on lxde, could it be the reason it doesnt recognize ttf, valdyn?
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09:26<valdyn>Fakeboost: no it cant be the reason
09:26<valdyn>Fakeboost: where is that font?
09:26<valdyn>Fakeboost: what is "it"
09:26<Fakeboost>in consolefonts folder
09:26<Fakeboost>it is a ttf
09:26<valdyn>Fakeboost: and where is the consolefonts folder?
09:27<Fakeboost>in usr/share
09:27<valdyn>Fakeboost: who put it there?
09:27<Fakeboost>me
09:27<valdyn>Fakeboost: why would you do that?
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09:27<Fakeboost>and the other fonts there have a .psf.gz files type
09:27<valdyn>Fakeboost: yea, thats all bitmap fonts
09:28<Fakeboost>how do i set ttf fonts?
09:28<valdyn>Fakeboost: put your .ttf file into ~/.fonts/
09:28<Fakeboost>ok, i ll try it
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09:39<Fakeboost>valdyn: solved it, I copied the files to every font folder I found, thank you for your help!
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12:09<SnShines>yo
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12:20<wallzero>Greetings. Is it possible to run two daemons off the same binary?
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12:39<sney>wallzero: yes
12:39<sney>(whether it's easy to do so depends on various things)
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12:56<sylar>what can I do about this error: x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-4.4: Command not found ?
12:56<sylar>(i am on i386 arch)
12:56<prosperoII>Hey all, I had to skip the ‘configure & install software’ option during debian install (it hanged everytime), how can I do what it did post-install?
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12:58<prosperoII>So basically I have a base system installed, but startx doesnt work & I log into text terminal
12:58<sney>tasksel
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13:01<prosperoII>?
13:03<prosperoII>I got permission denied & sudo isnt there
13:03<sney>log in as root then
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13:09<prosperoII>thanks -.-
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13:53<banre>anyone know about android sdk on deb.
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13:55<sylar>found my answer on web
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13:58<banre>its a p.o.s. no CPU/ABI for any devices
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16:05<doctorjames>Hello my wheezy looks like this: http://ao2.it/sites/default/files/blog/2011/10/19/gnome-3-go-shell-not-just-yet-thanks/03-gnome-fallback-default.png
16:05<doctorjames>how do i fix this?
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16:06<mtn>doctorjames: what is your video card/chip?
16:07<doctorjames>mtn: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Kabini [Radeon HD 8400 / R3 Series]
16:07<mtn>doctorjames: have you checked out the debian wiki ati page?
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16:10<doctorjames>mtn: yes, and when i was using a different kernel it all worked. but im now using a backported kernel and it doesnt work.
16:10<mtn>doctorjames: might help to say what does not work. installing driver? errors? etc.
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16:13<doctorjames>mtn: i asked about this problem before and i was told the backported fglrx-driver wasnt compatible with the 3.14 kernel. They said this was the same problem as this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=116273
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16:14<mtn>doctorjames: so it sounds like you know the answer to your question already ;) don't use that combo.
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16:16<doctorjames>mtn: im a very large gnu/linux noob i should add. which combo would fix the problem if any?
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16:16<mtn>doctorjames: to start with, why are you using a backported kernel? you are leaving out most of the description of what you are doing and why you are doing it.
16:17<mtn>doctorjames: you said it worked before, so go back to that kernel and it will work, right?
16:17<doctorjames>mtn: im using the kernel so i could use wifi. couldnt get wifi to work on the other kernel
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16:27<Gogeta70>hey guys ^_^
16:27<Gogeta70>so i just compiled and installed a kernel update
16:28<Gogeta70>but the last step, "update-initramfs -c -k 3.6.2" fails
16:28<Gogeta70>it says "Warning: missing /lib/modules/3.6.2"
16:29<Gogeta70>what went wrong?
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16:29<mtn>Gogeta70: which version of debian and what kind of update?
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16:30<Gogeta70>i followed this guide: http://verahill.blogspot.com/2012/10/compiling-kernel-36-on-debian.html
16:30<Gogeta70>it's debian wheezy
16:30<mtn>Gogeta70: could you answer my question and save me the trouble of reading it?
16:31<Gogeta70>well, i compiled kernel and installed it with dpkg
16:31<mtn>Gogeta70: ok, I don't know about doing that. I just get my kernels from the debian repos.
16:31<Gogeta70>alright
16:32<Gogeta70>i had to compile the kernel because i installed a kernel patch
16:32<mtn>Gogeta70: sorry I missed you mentioning compiling at the beginning
16:32<Gogeta70>no worries ^_^
16:35<Marillion>Gogeta70: by the way, your kernel 3.6.x was never released by Debian
16:35<Gogeta70>i know
16:35<Gogeta70>but the kernel patch i wanted to use requires kernel 3.6 or 3.8
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16:36<sney>only those and not anything newer?
16:36<Gogeta70>yes
16:36<Gogeta70>http://www1.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/tresor
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16:37<sney>hm, neat
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16:37<Gogeta70>yeah :P
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16:38<sney>anyway, did you use make-kpkg by chance
16:38<haloman>Hello
16:38<sney>hmm yep it's in that howto. the packages built if you use make deb-pkg play nicer.
16:38<Gogeta70>yes
16:38<haloman>how do i set up wifi?
16:38<haloman>Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 07) 05:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8179 (rev 01)
16:38<haloman>those are my stats
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16:39<sney>!realtek firmware
16:39<dpkg>Firmware from userspace is required by the <rtl8192e>, <rtl8192su>, <r8712u>, <rtl8192ce>, <rtl8192cu>, <rtl8192de> and <rtl8192se> Linux kernel drivers. Firmware patches providing bug fixes for specific Realtek Ethernet controllers are also available. Ask me about <non-free sources>, then install the firmware-realtek package to provide.
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16:42<Gogeta70>ah, i figured it out
16:43<Gogeta70>a quick "ls" of /lib/modules gives me: "3.2.0-4-amd64 3.6.2-tresor0.3-amd64"
16:43<Gogeta70>;)
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16:44<haloman>! firmware realtek
16:44<haloman>!realtek firmware
16:44<dpkg>Firmware from userspace is required by the <rtl8192e>, <rtl8192su>, <r8712u>, <rtl8192ce>, <rtl8192cu>, <rtl8192de> and <rtl8192se> Linux kernel drivers. Firmware patches providing bug fixes for specific Realtek Ethernet controllers are also available. Ask me about <non-free sources>, then install the firmware-realtek package to provide.
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16:45<sney>haloman: yes, you need the firmware-realtek package.
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16:46<haloman>sney: but i already have that installed
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16:47<sney>haloman: then you might need a newer kernel. http://backports.debian.org/ follow the instructions
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16:49<Gogeta70>well.. the kernel failed to boot
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16:50<Gogeta70>it gave me what looks like a stack dump
16:50<Gogeta70>then i guess it halted the cpu
16:50<Gogeta70>i think i know what the issue is
16:51<Gogeta70>according to intel, my cpu (i7-2630QM) supports the AES-NI instructions
16:51<Gogeta70>but according to /proc/cpuinfo, i don't have the "aes" flag
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16:53<Marillion>Gogeta70: check out if you have the right functions in your .config are enabled
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16:54<Gogeta70>i spent quite a while configuring all the kernel includes and modules
16:55<Gogeta70>the stack trace it gives me ends with saying that RIP is in the tresor module when the crash occurs
16:55<haloman>sney: which kernels are available?
16:55<Gogeta70>more specifically, the "tresor_encblk" function
16:55<sney>haloman: once you have backports enabled "aptitude search linux-image"
16:55<Gogeta70>which is why i think it's the AES-NI issue
16:57<Gogeta70>well shit
16:57<Gogeta70>https://communities.intel.com/thread/25951
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17:03<cusco>hi folks
17:03<haloman>sney: v linux-image - p linux-image-2.6-amd64 - Linux for 64-bit PCs (dummy package) p linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64 - Linux 3.12 for 64-bit PCs p linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64- - Debugging symbols for Linux 3.12-0.bpo.1-a p linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-amd - Linux 3.12 for 64-bit PCs, PREEMPT_RT p linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt
17:03<Gogeta70>the last time i messed around with my bios, i ended up bricking my bios chip and having to replace the motherboard in my latop
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17:03<cusco>I have here a disk I'm trying to mount that has partition type 'ED'
17:03<cusco>any thoughts about it?
17:04<haloman>sney: tried posting the list but it cut off
17:04<sney>haloman: why did you post the list? those are the available kernels. pick one and install it.
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17:05<sney>haloman: if you have a specific question ask it, but don't just paste apt output for no reason
17:05<cusco>how do I find the filesystem?
17:06<ompaul>,v linux
17:06<judd>No package named 'linux' was found in i386.
17:06<ompaul>,v kernels
17:06<judd>No package named 'kernels' was found in i386.
17:06<ompaul>,v kernel
17:06<judd>No package named 'kernel' was found in i386.
17:06<sney>,kernels
17:06<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.17-rc5-686-pae (3.17~rc5-1~exp1); sid: 3.16-2-686-pae (3.16.3-2); jessie: 3.14-2-686-pae (3.14.15-2); wheezy-backports: 3.14-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.14.15-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.60-1+deb7u3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6)
17:07<ompaul>thanks sney some times my brain doesn't do random memory access work very well :-) this is one of those moments
17:07<sney>:)
17:07<haloman>sney: are backported linux 3.12,3.13,3.14 kernels newer than 3.2(the one im currently using)? because those are the only ones from backports there
17:08<sney>12, 13 and 14 are generally bigger than 2, yes.
17:08<ompaul>haloman: is that machine in a data centre?
17:08<sney>seems unlikely if he wants wifi
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17:09<ompaul>sney: that is a fair comment I'm kind of disturbed by the what is available list - it's out of data or wrong or both
17:10<ompaul>otoh it might not be a debian repo
17:10<haloman>sney: obviously but isnt 3.14 less than 3.2? im a noob but understand where im coming from
17:10<haloman>sney:i get it now though
17:10<ompaul>3 is a major version number 14 is an increment on that
17:11<haloman>ompaul: yes i know now
17:11<ompaul>haloman: where did you get that list of linux-image
17:11<peter1138>Version numbers are not generally decimal :)
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17:12<ompaul>an apt-get update might be in order
17:12<haloman>aptitude search linux-image
17:13<ompaul>haloman: an apt-get update might be in order
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17:18<haloman>after i install the kernel, is there anyting else ho install?
17:18<haloman>*else to
17:20<_flip>cusco: http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html
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17:20<_flip>cusco: partition ED is unused, iirc that might be free space
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17:58<cusco>_flip: it is used, hexedump shwos stuff
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17:59<_flip>cusco: do you know which partition type it's supposed to be then?
17:59<_flip>do you have gtp?
17:59<_flip>gpt
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18:00<_flip>it could also be related to hybrid mbr
18:00<_flip>my memory is a bit fuzzy, but i'm sure i've seen it before
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18:43<prosperoII>Hey, my debian install keeps hanging at ‘configure & install software’ stage. What can I do?
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18:43<mtn>prosperoII: lots of room in your / partition?
18:44<prosperoII>This is a VM, I tried with goin thru the installer as well as installing base system, booting & trying with tasksel
18:44<prosperoII>mtn I have 20gb?
18:44<mtn>prosperoII: do you?
18:44<prosperoII>Yea, is that too much?
18:44<mtn>prosperoII: can't have too much ;)
18:45<prosperoII>Which was what I knew :)
18:45<mtn>prosperoII: which installer?
18:45<prosperoII>Graphical expert
18:45<prosperoII>and um, netinst amd64
18:45<prosperoII>latest
18:46<mtn>prosperoII: sure you have a net connection in the vm?
18:46<prosperoII>I think so, I tried with other iso’s as well, same result
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18:46<sney>anything on the error console? you can hit alt-f4 to see it
18:46<mtn>prosperoII: oops, something basic then. not a debian issue at all. better double check your vm settings
18:47<prosperoII>O_o I’d love to post an error log but as soon as it appears it just hangs and I cant reboot into it
18:47<prosperoII>Hmm, what do u suggest on vm settings?
18:47<mtn>prosperoII: network, for a starter
18:48<prosperoII>actually pretty sure network works, cos I configured apt with it
18:48<sney>virtualbox's defaults are usually fine for debian
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18:49<mtn>prosperoII: what does this mean? "I configured apt with it"
18:49<prosperoII>Chose ‘configure package manager’ and complete it in installer
18:49<mtn>prosperoII: not familiar with that. doesn't ring a bell at all. did the installer find and configure the network?
18:50<prosperoII>you’re probly right its not debian issue, same thing happens in windows install. but I need debian
18:50<prosperoII>Yes it did
18:50<mtn>prosperoII: might want to check with an irc channel for your vm, or the forums for it
18:51<prosperoII>Forums werent that helpful https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=63618&p=299244#p299244
18:52<mtn>prosperoII: I have never had any issues installing anything in vbox
18:52<prosperoII>What did u mean by ‘lots of room in your / partition?’ why would it be problem
18:52<prosperoII>Neither did I until recently
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18:52<mtn>prosperoII: can't install if not enough room, obviously
18:53<prosperoII>Oh, I have more than enough as you see
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18:54<mtn>prosperoII: are you using the same virtual drive for all of these attemted installs?
18:54<prosperoII>No, I delete & recreate multiple times
18:55<prosperoII>Because it becomes corrupt in someway
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18:57<prosperoII>:( I have no idea whats wrong.. and why be stuck at this stage always and not some other stage
19:02<_flip>have you checked install media?
19:02<_flip>that's not corrupt, is it?
19:03<prosperoII>vm settings: 4gb ram(host is 8gb), 2 cpus (host is quadcore), 128mb graphics memory, 3d acceleration
19:04<prosperoII>_flip: I’ve tried with, netinst and dvd iso’s as well as burnt dvds
19:06<_flip>heh
19:06<_flip>and they all stop at the same step?
19:07<prosperoII>exactly :/
19:07<mtn>_flip: he says same exact thing happens with installing windows, too
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19:07<sney>common elements would be a) virtualbox, and b) the actual disk the virtual disk resides on
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19:08<_flip>ah
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19:10<sney>maybe try a different virtual disk format (qcow, vhd) instead of the vbox default, or maybe try a newer or older version of virtualbox, etc
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19:11<prosperoII>virtualdisks are in their own partition (ext4), before they were not and someone suggested fat32 fs could be the problem
19:11<prosperoII>turned out it wasnt
19:11<Gogeta70>hello
19:11<prosperoII>I will try that
19:11<Gogeta70>so, i was able to install the kernel update successfully
19:12<Gogeta70>however, i need the intel-microcode package to run in initramfs
19:12<Gogeta70>how can i add that package to execute during boot?
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19:15<_flip>Gogeta70 : maybe update-initramfs ?
19:15<Gogeta70>well, after compiling the kernel i ran update-initramfs -u -k 3.6.2-tresor0.3-amd64
19:16<Gogeta70>i already have the intel-microcode package installed on my system
19:16<Gogeta70>erm, after compiling and installing the kernel, that is
19:16<Gogeta70>however, when i went to boot the kernel i got a stack dump and the system froze
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19:23<Gogeta70>well, running update-initramfs -uv -k [kernel] has told me that it is including the intel-microcode package
19:23<Gogeta70>is there a way to make it execute the package before it runs tresor?
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19:25<Gogeta70>... am i asking the impossible?
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19:31<Gogeta70>lol i guess that means nobody knows
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19:34<retrospectacus>this is Debian support. Debian doesn't have any kernel like "3.6.2-tresor0.3-amd64"
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19:43<Gogeta70>debian supports linux kernels, does it not?
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19:44<Gogeta70>tresor is a kernel patch, for linux
19:44<sney>the reason you can get some vague support for it here is that we were helping you patch the kernel earlier
19:44<Gogeta70>yes
19:45<sney>though you'll forgive #debian if we don't have much experience with things that do not typically ship with debian.
19:45<Gogeta70>of course, i'm not offended or anything
19:45<sney>there's probably a kernel development channel somewhere that will be more useful. possibly on freenode.
19:45<Gogeta70>my question is about initramfs anyway
19:46<sney>I'm pretty sure cpu microcode loads before modules do.
19:47<Gogeta70>i would hope so
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19:47<Gogeta70>according to update-initramfs -uv:
19:47<Gogeta70>Writing microcode firmware file(s) into /var/tmp/mkinitramfs_xrpxcG/lib/firmware/intel-ucode
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21:04<prosperoII>sney still there? I changed the virtual drive format but got some error halfway again: http://i.imgur.com/4AUqyOm.png
21:05<prosperoII>Although what is different now is that I still have a working prompt, I might be able to find that error log somewhere
21:06<sney>those are disk write errors, on bare metal it would mean a dead drive
21:09<prosperoII>so it has to do with that partition O__o what fs would be better I wonder than ext4
21:10<sney>ext4 is normally fine. it was throwing journal errors so maybe try ext2? but I wonder about your hard disk
21:10<prosperoII>partition is on external drive, which otherwise works fine with other partitions
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21:11<prosperoII>however host is mac, and mac isnt normally able to read/write on ext4; so I use something called fuse for osx
21:11<sney>every disk works until it breaks. try ext2, if it still doesn't work, run a diagnostic on the drive
21:11<sney>mac isn't touching the filesystem, the linux kernel in your vm is
21:16<prosperoII>I will, in the meantime should I look for a more detailed log in /var/log etc..?
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21:16<sney>that error console from the installer tells a pretty clear story
21:17<sney>there's not much else to it once you get failed writes and i/o errors
21:17<_flip>did you format your external drive as EXT4?
21:17<prosperoII>_flip only a chunk of it as a partition
21:17<prosperoII>sney I see, so try ext2 it is then..
21:18<_flip>then Mac OS X would access the disk
21:18<sney>wait, you have a full partition for this vm, not a virtual disk file?
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21:18<sney>did you format it with fuse or from the debian-installer somehow?
21:18<prosperoII>OSX can only access it when I do ‘sudo fuse-ext2 /dev/disk1s6 /opt/vbox -o force’ on the terminal
21:19<prosperoII>no full partition isnt for this vm alone, its a virtual disk file on that partition
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21:19<_flip>keep the external partition HFS+ and use a virtual HD file for the VM
21:19<_flip>that should work
21:20<_flip>you can even keep the virtual disk on the internal HDD to rule out problems with the external drive
21:20<sney>yeah having the vdi on a ext4 partition under an os that doesn't speak ext4 natively is just nonsensical
21:20<sney>the vm doesn't care what fs the host is using
21:21<prosperoII>_flip that’s what I used to do but it uses precious internal space, reformatting as HFS+ looks a good option tho
21:22<prosperoII>I only chose ext4 for the partition since thats what linux gets along with best
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21:26<_flip>yeah but the virtualized host doesn
21:26<_flip>'t access the disk directly
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21:30<prosperoII>ok, so here goes for the 20th time..
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21:45<_flip>prosperoII: you know what they say, 20th time's the charm
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21:45<prosperoII>they say that? *___* hope they’re right
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23:06<_flip> prosperoII: were they right?
23:08<prosperoII>_flip: fast-forward 1 and a half hours, I actually have a working gui desktop ^^ they were right indeed, thanks all
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23:08<_flip>cool
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23:47<kingsley_>I like http://www.debian.ch/merchandise/img/tshirts/debian.ch_fusion.png
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