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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-09-22

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01:42<sylar>anyone know where is the 64bit version of ld, for systems that are on arch i386?
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01:46<jm_>why do you want 64bit ld?
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02:59<SmitySmiter>hello guys, I'm on Debian 7.6, Gnome 3... Are there any clock apps which will sit on the taskbar/system tray (on top), which can show multiple clocks?
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03:02<gym04_>hi
03:02<gym04_>ji
03:02<gym04_>#jhui
03:02<gym04_>ihh
03:02<jm_>gym04_: please stop
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03:02<gym04_>jjkjkbvbfggfg gfg
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03:02<gym04_>fuiop
03:02<gym04_>no
03:03<themill>gym04_: both cat and keyboard appear to work.
03:03<gym04_>i dont want to stop
03:03-!-mode/#debian [+b *!gym04@pD9E7FBAE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] by jm_
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03:03<Michelle21> Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://tinyurl.com/oh6t4o2
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03:06<gym04>fuiop
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04:14<cinnamon>Hello Im trying to install freeCAD but when i try to do so via synaptic it says to "fix broken packages" first. how do i fix this?
04:17<peter1138>apt-get install -t wheezy-backports freecad
04:18<peter1138>Presumably there's some way to tell synaptic to install backports but I don't know as I don't use it.
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04:31<EmleyMoor>Is there a good, free rather than non-free, way to get Java to work on web sites in chromium?
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04:36<musca>EmleyMoor: NPAPI was disabled since chromium 35.0, so you need a plugin for the new Pepper-API
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04:38<EmleyMoor>musca: Looks like no such thing exists
04:38<maxb>Does such a plugin even exist for Java? I thought it did not.
04:38<mikobobo>hi
04:38<mikobobo>how can i use transmission
04:39<maxb>The world seems to be reaching a consensus that Java in the browser is a dead technology AFAICS
04:39<avtobiff>mikobobo, apt-get install transmission && transmission
04:39<babilen>mikobobo: You start it then use it.
04:39<musca>maxb: full ACK
04:39<avtobiff>mikobobo, or select it from some desktop menu after it is installed
04:40<mikobobo>thanks a lot
04:40<jm_>ugh i hope not, i for example need java stuff for some tasks in web bank access and in on-line tax office page
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04:40<babilen>mikobobo: You might want a graphical interface such as the one that comes with transmission-gtk.
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04:41<babilen>jm_: Yeah, some banks use antiquated software/technologies. It appears as if you'll have to use IW for those websites for the time being. fwiw, all UK and German banks I know don't rely on Java.
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04:42<jm_>babilen: yeah I am iceweasel user anyway (the reason they use java is for crypto signatures)
04:42<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... looks like, when I need Java, I need another browser - it's like being back in 1997
04:43<jm_>heh
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04:51<jm_>in general I would be happy if java in browser died (and especially flash) if it's replaced by something more usable, in this case it'll probably be WebCrypto API
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04:54<mikobobo>i am till unable to download video using transmission on kali linux
04:54<babilen>Why don't you ask kali support?
04:54<babilen>dselect: kali
04:54<dselect>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
04:54<babilen>(also not supported in #debian-next)
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05:14<andrea_>Hi guys :) I need help with Jessie installation... I have an intel wireless 2230 card and, even thought i downloaded the firmware-non-free iso, the card is not recognized. Any hints?
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05:14<andrea_>however the iwlwifi package is inside the iso and it has the correct driver (iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode)
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05:22<aidalgol>How do I set the system timezone?
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05:22<babilen>aidalgol: "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
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05:23<aidalgol>babilen: thanks!
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06:00<g105b>I bought a fancy pants wireless mouse, but its scrolling is inverted from how I like it. I'm sure this is something configurable somewhere, can anyone offer advice?
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06:00<jm_>scrolling as in wheel?
06:03<petn-randall>g105b: Check the settings of your desktop environment.
06:04<petn-randall>g105b: Xfce has that in settings → Hardware → Mouse and Touchpad → Reverse scroll direction ... I'm assuming KDE/Gnome has something similar, too.
06:05<g105b>petn-randall: In my mouse settings, the reverse scroll direction only affects the laptop touchpad, not the mouse.
06:05<jm_>if it's about wheel you can change it via xmodmap -pp
06:06<jm_>what kind of fancy mouse is this to reverse things?
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06:07<g105b>jm_: it's trying to make apple fans happy :)
06:07<g105b>what does -pp do?
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06:08<g105b>ah I see, it prints the pointer map
06:08<g105b>That'll probably be all I need, I'll get digging.
06:08<g105b>Thanks.
06:08<jm_>I said that wrong, -pp prints current config, you can change it via pointer = foo ... (typically buttons 4 and 5 are wheel, check in xev)
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06:09<jm_>so probably 1 2 3 5 4 6 7 8 9 10?
06:10<jm_>i'm surprised apple users know how to use a wheel, one button mouse and all that :)
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06:10<EmleyMoor>ShopandScan fixed
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06:16<SmitySmiter>guys, anyone know any app I can use to view multiple clocks (for various international locations)? I'm on Debian 7.6
06:17<SmitySmiter>would be absolutely if it showed upon clicking the system clock which is displayed on the taskbar (Gnome 3)
06:17<SmitySmiter>*absolutely awesome
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08:40<smokejohn>Hello everyone. Today I started noticing strange "clicks" from my harddrive. I am trying to figure out if my hdd is dying. I am in the middle of writing my dissertation and I need to know if I have to panic or not :P
08:40<Zaba>just, uh, keep backups
08:41<Zaba>disk failures just happen, and should never be grounds for panic
08:41<smokejohn>Zaba: hey. Well I checked my logs and there are plenty of errors like udisk failed housekeeping
08:42<smokejohn>I looked that up and there seems to be a bug
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08:42<Zaba>you might want to use smartctl for an occasionally informative report about your drive's health
08:43<smokejohn>I will check that out too. Thanks
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08:44<Zaba>and really, just do regular backups. automate them. make sure you can restore them anytime.
08:44<Zaba>peace of mind is a good thing
08:45<rjsalts>smokejohn: informative in that it will tell you when your disks are definitely having problems, but sometimes won't give you a warning if they fail in a way the manufacturer didn't expect
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08:45<wakd>smokejohn, what Zaba said: 1) backups, 2) smartctl, 3) backups
08:47<peter1138>Don't do backups "because you think it's dying"
08:47<peter1138>Do backups because you should
08:47<Zaba>or equivalently, because it can die at any time anyway, or get stolen or lost
08:48<rjsalts>or you can accidentally type sudo rm -rf /
08:48<rjsalts>or just rm /path/to/really/important/document
08:48<weasel>rm nowadays caters to such people
08:48<weasel>you have to type -rf /* now..
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08:51<smokejohn>hey guys. Well I am going to buy another hdd for my backups
08:51<smokejohn>I just checked smartctl. There are no errors reported...
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08:55<peter1138>there often isn't
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08:56<Zaba>and clicking is normal for some drives, too
08:56<weasel>just have backups. current backups. complete backups. always.
08:56<Zaba>yup
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08:59<smokejohn>I will report back when I figure this out. Hope I don't come crying without my data :P
09:01<ila>what is the apache2 redundancy package ?
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09:22<Xylon>hi, does anybody know how to make icedove display an icon in the system tray when there are unread emails, like sylpheed?
09:22<Xylon>all it does is make a popup for 10 secs so if I'm AFK at the time I will never know about it.
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09:37<rjsalts>Xylon: xul-ext-firetray?
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09:50<milo>çàõîäè íå ïîæàëååøü òóò êðóòî http://cibq.alkerz.ru/84247/2963685/
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09:59<Radioman>hello
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10:03<Radioman>Is anybody uses Google Chrome (not chromium) on debian wheezy? I have a bug after update.
10:05<Radioman>when I minimize it to panel and restore back, window of Chrome goes grey
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10:05<Radioman>and it fixes when I maximize it to full screen
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10:08<petn-randall>Radioman: We only cover software in Debian here. You might ask in the appriopriate Google channel, or maybe #linux.
10:10<Radioman>ok, thanks
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10:18<stemid>after upgrading from squeeze to wheezy on one of my slave DNS I get this error "dumping master file: /var/lib/bind/wan/tmp-QuB6eSc71x: open: permission denied" preventing bind9 from starting. I tried chown -R bind:bind /var/lib/bind but it did not help. also I tried specifying my slave zone file paths with just the filename, and skipping /var/lib/bind/wan but that did not help.
10:18<stemid>on another wheezy bind slave dns I see my slave zones created under /var/lib/bind/wan/zonename. but no tmp files.
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10:18<stemid>also no errors.
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10:19<awm>http://ohjp.teresnab.ru/84247/r1586154/ ðåãàéñÿ è ó òåáÿ âñ¸ áóäåò )
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11:02<pir8teslife>anyone one on that can offer some assistance with installing packages
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11:02<dastan>which package?
11:03<zathras>pir8teslife, what is the exact problem?
11:03<pir8teslife>I am trying to install all of the documentation packages on my distro. I just dont want to have to go through and check all 5k
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11:04<pir8teslife>so my question would be , is there an easy way to install all of the packages at once
11:05<blast007>what distro are you running?
11:05<pir8teslife>debian kali 1.0.9
11:05<blast007>!kali
11:05<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
11:06<pir8teslife>ahh, kk sorry thanks
11:06<blast007>hopefully they can assist you with your question
11:07<pir8teslife>i appreciate the direction :) thank you
11:07<musca>pir8teslife: ##linux on freenode is an all purpose channel
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11:08<dastan>anyone knows a team I can join? i want to be involve in debian
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11:10<blast007>dastan: https://wiki.debian.org/Teams probably something there that would be of interest to you then
11:10<zathras>dastan, I guess that depends on your skills and interests besides openings in teams. Alternatively you could check openhatch.org as they harvest project support requests for opensource projects. I assume Debian will be one of them
11:11<zathras>dastan, the above direct link would probably be better in your case
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11:11<dastan>I thought it would be faster to ask here :) but thanks guys I will check the links
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11:25<monod2>petn-randall, do you remember I had that strange problem with my system? Here's the update: I have formatted /boot and /, preseving /home, and installed a temporary linux mint installation. Guess what? Same error as before. If you want, I can give you the URLs of the pastes.
11:25<monod2>(yesterday's)
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11:33<petn-randall>monod2: We don't support Linux Mint in here ...
11:34<monod2>petn-randall, don't worry, it's not an issue with mint
11:34<monod2>(it seems a linux-wise issue!)
11:34<monod2>(cross-distro)
11:35<monod2>I'm finding the pastes
11:35<monod2>so others might help too
11:35<petn-randall>I'm not worrying. We just don't support Mint in #debian.
11:35<monod2>I meant: I might have installed any other distro, indeed a debian distro as well
11:35<monod2>but the problem still remains.
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11:37<monod2>oh no!
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11:38<monod2>paste.debian.net reports that there's an error trying to retrieve my yesterday's pastes. What's the default life of an anonymous paste there? (I did not touch settings when pasting)
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11:38<monod2>oh indeed
11:38<monod2>I can see that by myself. 24h..
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11:49<zathras>monod2, if you format OS partition and preserve others chances are you run into issues regarding versions of libs, ownership (uid,gid) of files etc
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11:51<zzz>afk
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11:53<monod2>zathras, thanks for the info. Btw I'm repasting the error screen for people to see
11:54<monod2>zathras, anyway, in the error screen you clearly see that no file permissions are being touched... nor libs (I don't think so)
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11:55<monod2>here's the paste with the error that persists after a clean installation (formatting all partitions except for /home): http://paste.debian.net/hidden/d8e1e8ce/
11:55<monod2>extra: it's been 2 days with this problem, today's the 3rd :(
11:56<monod2>extra2: it seems a cross-distro problem, because overwriting debian with, say, mint13 did not solve it.
11:56<zathras>monod2, external disk I presume?
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11:57<monod2>zathras, nope, internal hdd, the only one that's present
11:57<monod2>I mean, the only hdd in my system, and it's an internal
11:57<zathras>have you checked uuid-s ?
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11:57<wpd>bk
11:57<zathras>wb
11:58<petn-randall>wpd: Please don't do that. Imagine what would happen if everyone in this channel did that.
11:58<monod2>zathras, how can I do that? I'll steadily try that if you tell me
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11:59<monod2>extra3: I can only boot if I run a live cd in "compatibility mode"; from where I can also chroot to the main system
12:00<monod2>zathras, ops sorry zathras, disk uuids!
12:00<monod2>zathras, of course I checked them
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12:01<zathras>monod2, I suspect there is a difference in uuid on disk versus what is in /etc/fstab which will cause these issues.
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12:01<zathras>no idea though how it would get into that state
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12:02<monod2>zathras, uuids are fine and I checked them with the help of users from this channel
12:02<monod2>zathras, if you have no idea, I don't have as well :(
12:02<monod2>I'll ask in other channels maybe
12:02<zathras>but then again: you have been playing around a lot with partitions and distributions so it seems: the pastebin show ubuntu, not mint and above all not debian
12:03<monod2>zathras, ok, let me find the old log I saved and you'll see it's the same on Debian:
12:03<zathras>monod2, just be sure you are not checing the uuid in /etc/fstab against the one in /etc/fstab :P
12:03<monod2>zathras, lold.
12:03<zathras>You used blkid?
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12:03<monod2>zathras, yes
12:04<monod2>sudo blkid
12:04<monod2>from the live cd
12:05<monod2>zathras, an equivalent paste of that of yesterday! (I re-pasted it few secs ago) http://paste.debian.net/hidden/4a1641b7/
12:05<monod2>zathras, as you can see, same problem :(
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12:06<monod2>extra4: keyboard and mouse are not recognized during all the process (ctrl-alt-canc does not reboot, for instance) and I cannot type anything at the initramfs prompt as a consequence
12:06<monod2>thanks for the help though, zathras
12:06<monod2>as to all the others who helped yesterday..
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12:08<monod2>I was wondering: is there a more appropriate chan where I can explain this strange cross-distro issue?
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12:09<zathras>monod2, both logs show USB errors. So maybe you will be able to type something when you attach a PS/2 keyboard. Or try a different USB port. But it seems this PC has (timing) issues: cannot find USB devices intime, cannot find a rootpartition/drive: is the hardware itself ok?
12:10<trico>im trying to setup webdav on wheezy x64 but i keep getting "Could not authenticate to server: rejected Digest challeng" why?
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12:11<trico>here is my webdav config file: http://paste.debian.net/122407/
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12:13<suvrat>help mee
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12:13<suvrat>import pymongo
12:13<suvrat>from pymongo import Connection
12:13<suvrat>connection = Connection()
12:13<suvrat>connection = Connection('localhost', 27017)
12:13<suvrat>db = connection.test
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12:13<monod2>zathras, I already use a PS/2 keyb., and always had; we tried to "rootdelay=nnn" at the grub line, pressing 'e', editing and then C-x: still didn't work, the error appears, just delay by nnn seconds(if those are seconds(?)) zathras: windows had sometime shown BSOD saying to check RAM and video adapter.. (before this cross-distro issue) apart from this, the system should be fine, but if it has hardware errors I don't kno
12:13<monod2>w in this moment. Also: windows boots fine!
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12:14<monod2>(apart from eventually showing BSODs)
12:14<monod2>s/eventually/occasionally/
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12:18<monod2>zathras, no ideas, huh? :D
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12:20<monod2>extra5: I don't have USB devices connected when I try and boot the system
12:20<zathras>monod2, run memtest86
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12:20<zathras>just to be sure
12:20<zathras>given also bsod I would not be too surprised if the hw is not 100%
12:21<zathras>anyway: goto to go
12:21<monod2>zathras, windows addresses ram and video adapter, but how can I be sure and check the latter? 2) running memtest in a few secs 3) goto to go == ??
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12:22<zathras>*got to go, yes
12:22<zathras>good luck
12:22<monod2>zathras, ahhh ok, cya! and thanks! ttl
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12:25<fl0rent>hi, does anyone know if debian jessie will include gnome 3.14? (instead of 3.12)
12:25<mtn>fl0rent: saw on the news today that it would
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12:27<fl0rent>mtn: ok, I saw the same then ;)
12:27<fl0rent>I will wait for the confirmation
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12:29<mtn>fl0rent: sure, because things may still change before it is all done ;)
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13:22<Alldin_HomeStation>hi
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13:23<Alldin_HomeStation>need somehelp to install gcc on arm7 with linux 2.6 device
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13:31<Alldin_HomeStation>this is dead
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13:34<abrotman>Alldin_HomeStation: that's vague
13:34<Alldin_HomeStation>abrotman in which way ?
13:34<abrotman>for starters, your OS
13:34<abrotman>the problems you're having
13:35<abrotman>what have you tried so far?
13:35<Alldin_HomeStation>its linux, on a kidnle
13:35<Alldin_HomeStation>i have ssh access
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13:35<Alldin_HomeStation>it doesnt have dpkg, nor apt or anything else
13:37<Alldin_HomeStation>abrotman ?
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13:38<abrotman>Alldin_HomeStation: so why are you asking #debian?
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13:39<Alldin_HomeStation>for some help to get it :/
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13:41<abrotman>Alldin_HomeStation: I thnik you want ##linux on irc.freenode.net
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13:41<Alldin_HomeStation>i tried but it says i cant talk there
13:41<Alldin_HomeStation>tho i ve never been banned there
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13:42<Alldin_HomeStation>nvm
13:42<abrotman>not our problem
13:43<Alldin_HomeStation>our?
13:43<Alldin_HomeStation>arent u the onyl 1 around ... ?
13:44<abrotman>Alldin_HomeStation: Do you need help with Debian?
13:44<Alldin_HomeStation>not for the moment
13:44<Alldin_HomeStation>ty 4 ur time
13:44<Alldin_HomeStation>nigger
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14:13<theo_>hi all. Anything happening here?
14:14<centrx>nope
14:14<centrx>Netcraft confirms it
14:15<theo_>I was wondering if anyone can assist me? I need a script to periodically print a test page on my inkjet in order to keep the printhead in good nick.
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14:20<avtobiff>theo_, while [ 1 ]; then lp | fortune; sleep $((24*60*60)); done
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14:20<avtobiff>theo_, that will print a fortune every day
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14:22<abrotman>or do the smart thing, get a printer that uses toner instead of ink?
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14:22<trico>or the smarter thing, give it to some jerk and let it be their problem
14:22<avtobiff>abrotman, depending on definition of smart, it is probably better for the environmental foot print to use the ink printer until it doesn't print anymore
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14:23<avtobiff>or rebuild it to connect to skynet
14:23<avtobiff>or internet of things or whatever they call it nowadays, and hook it up to some random-on-demand-thinkpiece hardcopy generator
14:24<abrotman>avtobiff: if you wait, it won't print anymore :)
14:25<avtobiff>i don't know. printers are a resilient bunch
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14:27<trico>even the best printer is no match for pocket sand
14:27<avtobiff>gaaaaaaaaah pocket sand
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14:32<theo_>avtobiff: Thnx for the tip. Yes, I have CISS on several of my inkjets and would like to auto-print a testpage once a week. Just a routine thing for my peace of mind. I dont know how to do scripts. I have Mepis Linux (kde).
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14:32<theo_>As for the other useless comments, well....!
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14:33<avtobiff>theo_, just add 7 to the calculation then
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14:34<avtobiff>theo_, well. no one means anything evil by the comments but they still want to say something and have some fun on someones expense. i guess that's the world we live in. happy to help you with scripting.
14:34<theo_>avtobiff: while [ 1 ]; then lp | fortune; sleep $((24*60*60)); done So, instead of 'fortune' I can use a testpage name instead?
14:35<avtobiff>theo_, if you want to learn more about scripting check out the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
14:35<theo_>Avtobiff: thnx for the help friend.
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14:36<avtobiff>theo_, it should be fortune | lp, but yeah i suppose. if you can print it from the command line with lp (or lpr or a2ps or whatever) just put it inside such a loop, paste in a terminal, press enter.
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14:38<theo_>avtobiff: I wld like the script to be able to start my puter and print the testpage once a week. I may hv to set permissions for it to start my puter Id say. I want this cos Im off overseas for a month soon.
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14:39<theo_>avtobiff: and, I hv 3 inkjets so they all need to do this
14:39<avtobiff>theo_, i don't know how to start your computer from cold boot
14:40<theo_>avtobiff: I think in the BIOS it can be set to allow this
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14:40<avtobiff>well. i have never. and i don't think so. :)
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14:41<avtobiff>theo_, ok. maybe with acpi wakeup or some such. but i have never seen that.
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14:42<avtobiff>theo_, this might get you started: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ACPI_Wakeup
14:42<theo_>avtobiff: So, what wld the script look like then to auto print 'testpage' every friday (morning?) and how wld I install it pls?
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14:43<theo_>to 3 rpinters
14:43<avtobiff>theo_, this is a help channel, not a consulting firm. you have to learn scripting and stuff on your own. i am going to wash up in the kitchen.
14:44<theo_>ok, thnx. hv a nice day
14:44<theo_>bye all
14:44<avtobiff>glhf
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15:16<la>hola
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15:17<la>como estas?????????????
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15:17<avtobiff>!es
15:17<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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15:27<dastan>!ic
15:27<dpkg>hmm... ic is (AKA) 'slurpy' or a conspiracy by the Indo-American community to take over your neighborhood via inexpensive groceries and snacks, or Integrated Circuit or "I see" for MORONS who are too lazy to type properly (I C). Imperial College, London
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15:54<Patrick>What permissions are these....?
15:54<Patrick>did run as user
15:54<Patrick>ls -la forum/Themes/
15:54<Patrick>ls: cannot access forum/Themes/.: Permission denied
15:54<Patrick>d????????? ? ? ? ? ? .
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15:55<Patrick>No idea what you saw before the kick...
15:55<Patrick>What does permission "d????????? ? ? ? ? ?" mean?
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15:56<mtn>Patrick: paste the complete command and error to paste.debian.net and give us the link
15:56<Patrick>run as root, la -la forum/Themes, it shows "drwxrw-rw- 4 www-data www-data 4096 Jul 30 23:21 ."
15:56<Patrick>ok
15:57<Patrick>here: http://paste.debian.net/122481/
15:58<somiaj>Patrick: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A_Quick_Introduction_to_Unix/Permissions
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16:13<valdyn>Patrick: you also need to read about permissions to understand why www-data:www-data is a bad idea on any file
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16:19<monod2>hey people! I inform all of you that tried and helped me out in these days troubleshooting my system that I finally got it to work!!
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16:20<monod2>solution: looks like the BIOS reset itself, maybe by accidentally pressing one "F key", and I now changed its value to what it wasw
16:20<monod2>was*
16:20<monod2>now: the system accepts to boot with no errors.
16:20<monod2>ps: BIOS is your friend.
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16:23<somiaj>monod2: if you find this happens again you may need to replace the bios battery
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16:30<monod2>somiaj, thank you ^^ I won't forget it!
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16:52<cacaocaca>hi
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17:18<grummund>Hi, why would svn client start asking for repo password? previously it would ask for keyring phrase.
17:19*grummund wonders if this is side effect of a recent package upgrade
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18:01<monod2>hello! I have a fresh debian installation with no gui at all - I'd like to try it from terminal only. Is there a way to set a higher resolution for ttys?
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18:10<Brigo>monod2, http://www.e-rave.nl/change-default-console-font-in-debian
18:10<monod2>Brigo, thank you. I was searching too :)
18:10<monod2>but you preceded me
18:10<Brigo>the esperiece :), monod2
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18:14<monod2>Brigo, btw, I wanted to change resolution, not fonts, and I found how: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/changing-the-default-resolution-of-tty-325671/
18:14<monod2>thank you anyway! :))
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18:14<cooldude1987>testing 1 2 3
18:14<Brigo>monod2, good for you :)
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18:15<cooldude1987>hello
18:16<cooldude1987>noob here
18:17<valdyn>monod2: http://www.haskell.org/wikiupload/a/aa/Screen-triplehead-galois.jpg ;)
18:17<devil>cooldude1987: just ask
18:18<cooldude1987>i have nothing to say, just saying hello
18:18<monod2>valdyn, ??
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18:20<devil>hi cooldude1987 :)
18:20<valdyn>monod2: nothing, maybe thats what you really want, maybe not
18:20<monod2>hahahahahahaah
18:21<monod2>funny
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18:21<cooldude1987>hi devil, hwos r u?
18:22<devil>cooldude1987: uh, you lazy?
18:23<cooldude1987>yes, sorry i havn't use irc in years
18:23<devil>we like spelled out words :)
18:23<devil>and btw, this is a support channel, chat is at #debian-offtopic
18:24<cooldude1987>ok,sorry
18:24<cooldude1987>baically noob again, i downloaded and it brought me here
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21:45<SamB_laptop>is there some way to tell programmatically whether a connected HDMI display is actually, uh, displaying what the computer is sending it?
21:46<SamB_laptop>rather than, say, a TV channel
21:49<SamB_laptop>also I could really use a sane way to handle display hotplug
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22:09<david_>hello
22:10<david_>anyone there?
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22:10<david_>:q
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22:12<david1>hello
22:13<david1>i need help with my sound
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22:14<centrx>!sound
22:14<dpkg>Ask me about <alsa>, <alsa checklist>. See also <default alsa>, <pulseaudio>.
22:14<david1><alsa>
22:14<david1>ah
22:14<centrx>david1, Use /msg dpkg <keyword>
22:14<centrx>david1, without the <>
22:14<centrx>david1, Also as you saw, here, with the !
22:14<centrx>!hi
22:14<dpkg>hello, centrx
22:15<david1>what did it do?
22:15<centrx>it's a bot
22:15<david1>oh
22:15<centrx>!alsa checklist
22:15<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
22:16<david1>i have no sound
22:16<david1>used alsamxier in the terminal and nothing
22:16<centrx>david1, Go through that checklist first, it fixes a lot of sound issues
22:16<centrx>david1, Personally I'm not familiar with sound. Also try #debian on Freenode, and also try during the day (America/Europe)
22:17<david1>no, it does not detect any sound device
22:17<david1>i will come back later
22:18<centrx>ok :)
22:18<david1>buh bye
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22:41<canaima>alex
22:41<canaima>hola como estan soy nuebo
22:42<canaima>hola
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23:02<omixam>How can I disable touchpad while typing?
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23:17<somiaj>omixam: type 'xinput --list' can you identify what pointer is the touchpad? (you may have to isntall xinput)
23:18<centrx>omixam, There might also be a button for it on your keyboard ;)
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23:18<somiaj>yea many laptops have a hardawre switch, if you don't have a hardware switch you can disable it with xinput
23:19<somiaj>I have a script that toggles it busing xinput on my laptop
23:19<omixam>In Virtual core pointer... I get ↳ PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=12 [slave pointer (2)]
23:20<somiaj>let me bring my laptop up, i'll share my scrip
23:21<omixam>touchpad work fine... But debian tools not detected....
23:23<somiaj>http://paste.debian.net/122523/ -- omixam that is the script I wrote to toggle my touchpad for when I typed. I actually bound it to the fn key to turn it on/off, but you can also just run that from the cli
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23:30<omixam>Thanks somiaj... This is one solution...
23:31<omixam>If we add to script that only excecute when is typing...
23:33<somiaj>well now you will need something to monintor when you are typing then after you are done, I personally suggest just binding that sript to a key you can hit to toggle it
23:33<somiaj>I am sure you could use the xevent info to run it when you start typing, but that may require a bit of trickeness
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23:37<omixam>I use xev... I do something like that with meta key....
23:39<omixam>But for some reason I´m getting this error: synclient -l
23:39<omixam>Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
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23:40<somiaj>well is that after you disabled the mouse?
23:41<somiaj>that method disables the mouse which I was fine with, and the best solution I found for my needs. Not sure if you can turn it off but have it partly enabled so you can use synclient on it
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23:45<omixam>No... Thats is when mouse and touchpad are working fine...
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23:54<nick>can someone help me troubleshoot why i have no sound?
23:54<nick>sound test gives me both left & right audio, but nothing else plays besides the test
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