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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-09-27

---Logopened Sat Sep 27 00:00:28 2014
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00:09<awal>Ok, problem solved find it at http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.6.0/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS
00:09<awal>:)
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01:20<vortek>hello
01:20<vortek>I need to install debian over a wireless network
01:20<vortek>What do i need to do?
01:23<somiaj>!tell vortek about firmware images
01:24<somiaj>vortek: provided you don't have really new wireless driver that is not supported in teh debian wheezy kernel, those images will contain the firmware you need
01:24<vortek>so i take it i cant install using the windows installer?
01:24<vortek>i mean using wireless
01:25<somiaj>the images I linked you are netinstall images for installing over the network and contain the firmware needed for lots of wireless cards. There are newer cards that are not supported, but many wireless cards are supported by that firmware installer.
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01:25<vortek>ok
01:26<somiaj>as in what I gave you should work
01:26<vortek>i take it i have to go buy some cds to burn to then? becuase the installer that puts debian on a reboot of windows as an option wont work with wireless?
01:27<somiaj>I'd suggest a usb thumb drive, but yes a cd would work too
01:27<vortek>cool
01:28<somiaj>!usb install
01:28<dpkg>You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>.
01:28<somiaj>note the win32diskimager software, use that from windows to write the .iso I pointed you to directly to your usb (it will destory data on it) but that is all you ened to do, then boot from the usb image you make
01:30<vortek>i need a usb stick though, write?
01:31<somiaj>correct, a usbstick or burnable cd are the easiest to use. You can get away without having one but it is far more complicated to get the installer to boot
01:31<vortek>is there a guide on for not using a cd or usb stick?
01:32<somiaj>not that i know off of the top of my head.
01:32<vortek>darn
01:33<somiaj>https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Loader -- looks like that can be used from windows.
01:34<vortek>does it support wireless?
01:34<somiaj>I do not know how it works.
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01:34<vortek>k
01:35<vortek>i know that when you reboot that installer has a install debiian option right next to load windows 7
01:35<vortek>well ill try it after i download these windows drivers
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01:36<vortek>thanxs for the help :)
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01:53<liberulo>http://www.pyimagesearch.com/giveaways/win-free-copies-13-best-python-books-giveaway/?lucky=4684
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02:49<aiko>hello
02:50<aiko>can somebody guide me to configure a bluetooth headphone on my debian/sid?
02:52<bremner>aiko: you should try on #debian-next
02:52<aiko>debian-next, okey
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02:53<helmut_>hi
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04:09<RoboTux>Hi there
04:09<RoboTux>I'm a bit at loss about multiseat configuration
04:10<RoboTux>I configured udev to add tag and ID_SEAT for each device
04:10<RoboTux>xorg starts with -seat and devices gets associated to the right seat
04:11<RoboTux>But loginctl list-sessions has empty SEAT column for each seat
04:11<RoboTux>and udisksctl mount -b will ask the password
04:11<RoboTux>Also ck-list-sessions shows session as non local and non active
04:12<RoboTux>I don't know why :(
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04:28<jpinx>RoboTux: I believe dutchfish has some experince of multi-seat setups
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04:37<RoboTux>jpinx: Ok, thanks
04:37<RoboTux>I'll wait for him then :)
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04:38<RoboTux>I just uninstall consolekit. It seems nothing else was depending on it. Maybe this will work better. I'll see at next reboot
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04:57<zenvisa>I'm using Dante for a socks server, is it possible to make it choose an IP out of a pool randomly for each request? I have 5 IP's on this box and would like to choose one random IP for each session/request. Is this possible with Dante(d)? I've tried multiple external:'s in the config but without success.
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06:03<Linnak>Hi, I'd like to know how can a make liveUSB from my running system with all my settings and installed applications. My system is in virtualbox
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06:57<chris>maybe someone can help me ... my problem yesterday: i did an apt-get upgrade and rebooted and then logged into xfce ... desktop icons (like Home and Trash) loaded and exactly in that moment there was no power in the whole house and so the pc was off. i just changed from windows to xubuntu and my unsecue feeling right now is that some autostart apps maybe wanted to write some config files but couldn't finished it because of that power cut
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06:58<chris>can this lead to problems with some applications
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07:08<RockyRoad>hi chris, the first thing I'd try would be apt-get update and apt-get upgrade again and see if there are any complaints
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07:09<RockyRoad>also check the logs
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07:10<devil>RockyRoad: he uses testing, we got it in #debian-next
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07:12<RockyRoad>thx for the notice devil. I'd better connect to #debian-next as well since I have a fresh testing now :)
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07:30<ceibal>negra
07:30<ceibal>la
07:31<ceibal>la puta madre que me pario la concha negra
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09:09<jeffrin>hello all
09:09<miraculix>hello jeff & all others
09:10<jeffrin>miraculix : hello
09:11<miraculix>Just learning here
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09:13<jeffrin>i like learning process
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09:14<jeffrin>miraculix : have you used netselect-apt
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10:10<towski>I turned off tor but my browser is still showing the wrong ip
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10:50<ompaul>towski: have you done any and or all of these cleared your history and cache and restarted the browser?
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11:14<aljun>help about this error on boot up mpu-401 device not found or busy
11:15<aljun>hello
11:15<aljun>anybody
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11:19<sney>aljun: what else is happening besides the error?
11:19<sney>do you have a midi device that isn't working? and does it say Error or Warning?
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11:23<a21>hi .. is there a good tutorial on installing wine 1.6 for debian?
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11:28<centrx>a21, apt-get install wine ?
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11:33<bremner>wheezy only has 1.4.1
11:33<bremner>there doesn't seem to be a backport.
11:34<centrx>!ssb
11:34<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
11:34<a21>http://www.tecmint.com/install-wine-on-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/#comment-314152
11:34<a21>http://www.tecmint.com/install-wine-on-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/
11:34<a21>sorry second link
11:34<a21>I was following this tutorial to install 1.6.2
11:35<a21>the repo is coming out wrong on my sources file though .. so not able to get wine
11:35<centrx>a21, You should use the Debian packages, which means you should do a source-backport of wine/wine64 from jessie/sid
11:35<a21>deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu taya main
11:35<a21>deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu taya main
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11:35<centrx>a21, Mixing Ubuntu PPAs with your Debian system is likely to break your system
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11:36<centrx>a21, See what the bot (dpkg) said above about "ssb"
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11:36<a21>ok .. I don't know what's a backport .. could you explain please?
11:36<a21>how does that work?
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11:37<centrx>a21, The newer version of wine is in a pre-release version of Debian
11:37<a21>okey ..
11:37<centrx>a21, You could install it on your stable release of Debian, except it is compiled against newer versions of all the basic libraries, like the C library
11:37<centrx>a21, So you need to recompile it from the "source package", as described above
11:38<centrx>a21, Then you will have the newer version that works on your system
11:38<a21>ok .. so how do I do this?
11:38<centrx>dpkg, tell a21 about ssb
11:39<a21>ok so just now this was printed out ..
11:39<a21>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
11:39<centrx>yes
11:39<a21>lot of this is new to me .. so please bear with me .. let me clarify
11:39<centrx>ok
11:40<a21>what does ssb stand for?
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11:40<centrx>I don't remember, Super Sid Backport or Sid Source Backport or Super Source Backport
11:40<a21>"First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>" what's the <debian-backports>? is that a channel or website?
11:40<babilen>"simple sid backport"
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11:41<a21>what's a sid?
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11:41<pmarty>a21: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/debian-packaging.html Here is a simple guide that will help you create your first backport
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11:41<centrx>a21, sid is the development branch of Debian, also called unstable
11:41<@abrotman>oh jeez ..
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11:42<babilen>I am not necessarily convinced that wine is easy to backport
11:42<a21>thanks .. reading
11:43<a21>babilen: then should I try with ubuntu files?
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11:43<peter1138>Only if you're using ubuntu
11:43<a21>actually I'm trying to get prison architect to run on my system
11:43<a21>playonlinux kept failing saying something like "wine couldn't be found " etc
11:44<a21>my wine was already latest Apt version .. so I decided to try get even higher ..
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11:44<a21>but considering my original issue I'm not sure even if this would work :(
11:45<centrx>a21, you might want to use it on steam instead wine
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11:45<centrx>unless you want your prisoners to escape
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11:46<a21>I have standalone version .. if I get steam can I still run it?
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11:47<peter1138>There should a native-Linux version, according to Steam.
11:47<a21>actually I'd rather get wine working properly .. because I have other windows programs too
11:48<a21>right now I use virtualbox for those .. but wine would be preferred
11:48<peter1138>It probably was working properly.
11:48<a21>I think so too
11:48<a21>I probably should have asked here first .. didn't think of it
11:49<a21>I think I'll get the stable version installed, and check back here on the errors
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11:49<a21>seems more sane
11:49<babilen>judd: checkbackport wine
11:49<judd>Backporting package wine in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libgphoto2-dev, libfreetype6-dev (>= 2.5.1).
11:49<babilen>You'd have to backport those ^^^ first.
11:50<a21>babilen: Let me try and figure out if I can get stable version working .. it should be possible
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11:51<babilen>All the best!
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11:58<a21>what's q4wine guys?
11:58<a21>is it better than playonlinux?
11:59<sney>!better
11:59<dpkg>[better] a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better".
11:59<a21>ah
11:59<a21>hmm
11:59<a21>*cough*
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11:59<weasel>it's better, because it's fewer letters.
12:00<a21>-.-
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12:08<heaumer`>!help
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12:09<centrx>!ask
12:09<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:55<sng>hi all. I'm looking for a safe way to remove systemd form my aptosid box (sid). Any links?
12:56<sney>sng: join #aptosid and ask them, derivatives are not supported here
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12:56<sng>oh, ok sorry about that
12:57<Krashed>anyone having issues with pepperflash on chromes latests .deb package?
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12:58<sney>didn't google change their plugin architecture?
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12:58<Krashed>not sure, i run jessie and pepperflash keeps bugging out
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12:58<Krashed>couldnt figure out the issue, tried to install flashplugin-nonfree but it doesnt show up on chrome:plugins
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12:59<Krashed>so i reformatted thinking it would help
12:59<Krashed>and it didnt
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12:59<sney>is this chromium, or chrome from google?
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12:59<Krashed>chrome
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13:00<sney>worksforme(tm)
13:00<Krashed>you are on debian jessie?
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13:01<sney>I'm on sid and I updated chrome today. nb, chrome from google is not supported here; you are free to use it of course but there's very little we can do to debug
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13:02<sney>see if you have the same problem with chromium. but iirc when you use the google package, flash player is integrated, not provided by a separate package
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13:02<Krashed>well, i have been able to successfully reproduce this bug with from on 2 boxes, 1 of which i was even able to reproduce it in a clean install of chrome
13:03<sney>see if you get the same issue with chromium.
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13:05<Krashed>hrm
13:05<Krashed>it doesnt show pepperflash or adobe flash in the plugins, yet flashplugin-nonfree is installed
13:06<sney>what about pepperflashplugin-nonfree
13:09<@abrotman>msaybe you installed it in $HOME
13:10<@abrotman>witphg: do you need help? or just want to harass people?
13:10-!-mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman
13:11<sney>Krashed: if adobe/pepper packages are installed but you updated the browser from another source, you may need to dpkg-reconfigure $flashplugin-nonfree in order to reinstall the plugin to the browser's plugin dir
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13:26<Krashed>i am convinced that something is blocking my chrome from using flash
13:27<Krashed>http://i.imgur.com/6o2Ovl1.png
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13:27<Krashed>the screenshot shots adobe flash being OPEN, in the terminal it shows the .so plugin in the correct directory, but on chrome://plugins .... no flashplayer 11.2
13:28<Krashed>any idea what i could be doing wrong
13:28<valdyn>Krashed: not a debian package. You have to put the plugin where *your* chrome looks for it
13:28<Krashed>yes, and isnt that where google chrome looks ?
13:29<valdyn>Krashed: what happens when you hit "Enable" ?
13:29<Krashed>it enables pepperflash
13:29<Krashed>which, i dont want, i want real adobe...
13:29<valdyn>Krashed: it is real adobe
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13:30<Krashed>pepperflash is notorius for being crap, pepperflash != adobeflash
13:30<valdyn>Krashed: what you want is the plugin that uses the firefox api, which is no longer available in chrome
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13:31<a_muva>Krashed: have you tried pipelight project?
13:31<mtn>Krashed: enable pepperflash and then check with this website: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
13:32<valdyn>Krashed: you can use an outdated chrome version with the firefox flash plugin or a recent chrome version without it (and pepper or whatever instead )
13:33<Krashed>hold on
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13:33<Krashed>i will show you what i get with that, then you will see why i want to know why on a fresh debian install using google chromes latest, why i am trying to find a workaround
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13:35<Krashed>http://i.imgur.com/76j326m.png
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13:36<valdyn>Krashed: sure you dont like flash being buggy, but theres no workaround to circumvent googles decision to no longer support the nsplugin api
13:36<Krashed>debian jessie64bit install, the only thing i did was add contrib/non-free to sources.list, update, install nvidia-driver, and downloaded the .deb off googles own site and pepperflash is broken
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13:37<Krashed>reproducable on this machine, reinstalled, resproduced it again, reproduced the same bug in a virtual machine
13:37<Krashed>out of the box, pepperflash is borked
13:37<towo`>then use another browser
13:38<towo`>chrome does not work with the old flashplugin
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13:40<mtn>Krashed: flash works just fine in chromium on my jessie install. using pepperflash
13:40<mtn>Krashed: though I am not using nvidia
13:41<Krashed>ok, next question, chromium didnt come with pepperflash...
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13:41<mtn>Krashed: no, you install it from repos
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13:44<Krashed>actually, that worked, didnt know it was in the repo, was beating myself up trying to install adobeflash in it
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13:47<mtn>Krashed: always look in repos first ;)
13:48<Krashed>meh, i was following guides on adobes site which was telling me to disable pepperflash and install 11.2
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13:50<Krashed>http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/enable-flash-player-google-chrome.html
13:50<Krashed>apparently someone needs to tell adobe that their guides suck
13:50<Krashed>lol
13:50<mtn>Krashed: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
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13:51<a_muva>Krashed: like I said, try this: http://pipelight.net/cms/installation.html
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13:53<Krashed>mtn, be that as it may, i have broken debian countless times, mainly because the wtf moment when debian no longer supports the use of compiz
13:53<mtn>Krashed: good times, eh?
13:54<peter1138>Well compiz is pretty dead
13:54<Krashed>meh .. could be better if i didnt have to install ubuntu to actually use something that is widely used and shouldn't have been pulled from the repos
13:54<Krashed>um
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13:55<Krashed>peter1138, so is xchat
13:55<mtn>Krashed: if you want compiz goodies, just run kde
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13:55<Krashed>but no one has pulled THAT from the repos
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13:55<Krashed>compiz, which is still widely used, did :(
13:56<Krashed>i was a diehard gnome2 + compiz fan, i dont like where gnome3 went
13:56<Krashed>so i went to xfce4
13:56<Krashed>which is why i LOVE debians move on 8 to go xfce4
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13:57<mtn>Krashed: they just changed it back to gnome :P
13:57<Krashed>thanks for inspiring me to want to jump off a bridge
13:57<mtn>heh
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13:58<mtn>Krashed: you are aware you can install and run whichever desktop you want too,right?
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13:58<Krashed>yea but most of the time you have to get the hell out of debian to do it
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13:59<mtn>Krashed: no you don't. the installer supports all major desktops during install.
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13:59<Krashed>i noticed that on 8
14:00<Krashed>on previous releases it doesnt use a portage system that on install you can choose that packages you want, it was just straight "webserver" "laptop" "fileserver" "ssh server"
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14:01<Krashed>didnt let you pick between display managers, window managers, didnt let you choose nginx over apache, etc.
14:02<bremner>Krashed: are you sure you're using debian? there is no portage in debian.
14:03<Krashed>when debian went gnome3, you have to gut debian to run anything else, spend alot of time manually switching gdm3 to lightdm, manually editting the EXEC settings from default to 'startxfce4' and alot of tampering
14:03<Krashed>bremner, nah, i was saying the debian install wasnt really a pick and choose
14:03<mtn>Krashed: the wheezy installer gives options for all major desktops during install
14:04<Krashed>that wasnt there for squeeze
14:04<Krashed>i actually left debian when it went to gnome3 i think @ squeeze
14:04<Krashed>i went to gentoo which still supported gnome2
14:04<Krashed>:)
14:04<mtn>Krashed: you seem confused. squeeze did not have gnome3
14:05<Krashed>i may have the release confused but when debian (whatever release) went gnome3, i jumped ship
14:05<Krashed>my apologizes if i cant recall what release it was
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14:15<squee>hi
14:15<squee>fuck systemd
14:15<squee>fuck you for forcing it on us meeerrrrr user scum
14:15<Ryccardo>you're not forced to use it in stable :)
14:16<squee>Ryccardo, shhhhh
14:16<squee>shhhhh
14:16<squee>they'll fuck up stable too if you let em
14:16<squee>shhhhhhh
14:16<squee>Ryccardo, dude,
14:16<Ryccardo>anyway, it's networkmanager's fault
14:16<squee>ehhhhehehm
14:16<squee>let me correct Ryccardo
14:16<squee>we ARE forced to use systemd in stable (wink)
14:16<squee>all is well (wink)
14:16<squee>no need to look at stable (wink wink)
14:17<bremner>!ops squee is yet another systemd troll
14:17<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bremner complains about: squee is yet another systemd troll
14:17<squee>FUCK SYSTEMD
14:17<squee>fuck you for betraying us all
14:17<squee>fuck you for not even having a general resolution
14:17<squee>fuck you for squashing dissent
14:17<squee>fuck you for betraying freedom
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14:23<Ryccardo>dondelelcaro: kick him from -next please
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15:02<venom00>hi, I've heard that int the next debian release all the binaries are goint to be PIE, is that true? I couldn't find any confirmation
15:02<rudi_s>venom00: It's not true, although it would be great IMHO.
15:03<rudi_s>However some people try to enable PIE for more packages.
15:04<venom00>ACK
15:05<sng>sorry to barge in, but what is PIE?
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15:06<venom00>Position Independent Executable, like PIC but for executables
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15:07<rudi_s>sng: Makes it more difficult to execute exploits because there are no static addresses in the program.
15:07<rudi_s>(But combined with information leaks ROP is still possible.)
15:08<Marillion>venom00: if you looking for more security, any DDs working there, look https://wiki.debian.org/Mempo
15:09<sng>rudi_s: thank you
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15:23<dante_>how do i keep the kernel from enabling laptop_mode?
15:23<dante_>i tried passing laptop_mode=0 as a kernel parameter, but it is still getting enabled
15:24<Ryccardo>you could set vm.laptop_mode=0 in a certain file that defines sysctl settings to be applied on boot
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15:25<dante_>yeah i am running on a live distribution
15:26<dante_>i just think it would be nice to be able to disable VM sysctls
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15:26<dante_>or get to vm sysctls from kernel parameters
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15:29<dante_>it just gets in the way of overclocking but i refuse to get non-volatile memory
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15:30<dante_>anywho, this is something to tell linus torvalds but he'll just flip me off. sucks
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22:33<jjacklin>Heya everyone, just a quick question. Do I need to worry about this shellshock bug bash exploit that I have been reading about on the news
22:34<teward>jjacklin: If the security team is on top of things they've probably patched it, assuming the DSAs regarding bash are accurate (DSA = Debian Security Advisories)
22:34<teward>s/probably patched/patched/
22:34<petn-randall>jjacklin: As with every security bug, there's a DSA that explains the impact. In short, if you don't run bash via CGI, you can practically ignore it.
22:35<supaman>jjacklin: for open security issues on bash see: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/bash
22:36<jjacklin>cool thank you. Just read it and though erm I dont know if I am affected. Usually I just think nope dont need to worry about it, its patched lol
22:37<rudi_s>petn-randall: That's not quite true. procmail and similar stuff can also be affected. But that should be fixed with the latest bash updates in Debian.
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22:38<agus>hola
22:38<petn-randall>rudi_s: Yeah, I think it was also an issue with things like gitolite, but CGI + bash is the most likely setup that people could be affected. Not saying the bug can safely be ignored, but giving every bug a name and a logo nowadays can't be the way to go.
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22:42<rudi_s>petn-randall: True. - I don't understand this bug naming either ..
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22:43<agus>hola
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22:53<supaman>!es
22:53<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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23:00<Cylus>Once you name it, it's hard to say goodbye. So naming bugs can't be healthy for the software or for the developer.
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