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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-09-29

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00:04<himanshu>#javascript
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01:30<criss>hello
01:30<criss>anyone?
01:30<jm_>!ask
01:30<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
01:31<criss>i have a problem with brightness on SolydX
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01:32<jm_>!solydx
01:32<dpkg>SolydX is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on debian> with the XFCE desktop environment. It is not supported in #debian, use #solydxk on irc.freenode.net instead. http://solydxk.com/products/solydx/
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01:32<jm_>try asking there
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01:53<qwk>I have been googling gor like 1 h by now about auto update for servers etc, it is an good idea, and which way to do that is the best?
01:55<jm_>!auto update
01:55<dpkg>Various updaters and notifiers are available within Debian that will tell you when new packages are available and optionally download and install them for you. For unattended, scriptable updates using cron, have a look at <cron-apt>. For desktop notification, try update-notifier or ask me about <apt-watch>.
01:56<themill>qwk: Good thing I answered your question 2 hours ago then if you've only been googling for 1h...
01:56<qwk>ah I didnt saw that
01:56<qwk>did u highlight me also ?
01:57<qwk>been messing with cracking windows
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01:58<themill>The assumption tends to be that you'd see an immediate answer... especially when it's quiet in here.
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03:10<helmut_>hi
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03:25<vortek>were can i find the iso file that contians the wireless firmware?
03:25<jm_>!tell vortek -about firmware images
03:25<vortek>rthanxs
03:25<jm_>no problem
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03:41<himanshu>Hello All
03:42<vortek>hello
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04:59<twb>I dropped wheezy on a stupid new laptop, and plymouth whinged about firmware-linux-nonfree. So I gave it to it, but now it says "failed to load radeon/KABINI_pfp.bin" -- which is not part of firmware-linux-nonfree 0.36+wheezy.1.
04:59<twb>Is the answer just "that's not expected to work"? Because I'm totally happy with that answer.
05:00<twb>(I just want a second opinion.)
05:01<twb>My other theory is that I should have installed a backports firmware-linux-nonfree to match the backported kernel...
05:01<peter1138>^ yes
05:01<twb>Derp, thanks
05:01<peter1138>Let me check mine though
05:01<ixi>firmware-linux-nonfree: /lib/firmware/radeon/KABINI_pfp.bin
05:01<ixi>on sid.
05:02<peter1138>*KABINI* is not in the backports firmware-linux-nonfree :(
05:02<ixi>package ver 0.43
05:02<ixi>,v firmware-linux-nonfree
05:02<judd>Package: firmware-linux-nonfree on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.41~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; sid/non-free: 0.43
05:02<jm_>yeah it has 0.41 only
05:02<twb>0.41~bpo70+1
05:03<jm_>but it should be installable from sid
05:03<twb>jm_: that puts it over my ICBF threshold and I'll just tell boss "too hard, next time check HCL"
05:03<jm_>twb: hehe
05:03<twb>Though KAthingy is in 0.41
05:04<jm_>yeah there are several KABINI_* files
05:04<twb>(FSVO boss = boss's customer's customer's boss)
05:05<twb>Well I'm rebuilding the SOE now, so I'll find out soon. Unless I get too hungry.
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05:06<peter1138>Oh...
05:06<peter1138>Duh, I don't have the wheezy-backports version myself :(
05:06<twb>peter1138: I guess it doesn't matter unless you need a newer blob
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05:07<twb>http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#39
05:07<peter1138>It matters because I thought I did. Must've forgotten it with a recent reinstall. Thus I gave you wrong information, sorry.
05:08<twb>peter1138: hey, you're lucky. I found out today that I left IPv6 turned on *and* managed to turn off the firewalls on all my DMZ containers
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07:31<qwk>Why is so many packets outdated in debian?
07:31<qwk>nmap 6.0 when the latest is 6.4
07:31<qwk>also openSSH
07:31<jm_>there is nmap 6.4 in debian, what are yout alking about?
07:32<jm_>,versions nmap
07:32<judd>Package: nmap on i386 -- squeeze: 5.00-3; wheezy: 6.00-0.3+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 6.40-0.1~bpo70+1; sid: 6.47-2; jessie: 6.47-2
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07:34<maxy>qwk: When you are using stable you get fixes to ugly bugs but no new upstream releases, if you want a more bleeding edge versions, you may want to use wheezy-backports for some packages.
07:35<maxy>If you want even newer versions of all packages, you may want to use testing (currently jessie) and use the jessie support channel in #debian-next
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07:36<qwk>maxy: Im not sure how backports works, atm I have it in my sourcelist
07:36<qwk>do I get the newer updates then?
07:36<qwk>or should i # when not using it?
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07:38<maxy>qwk: backports have a lower priority by default, you can install a particular version of a package with: apt-get install package=version
07:38<maxy>apt-get install nmap=6.40-0.1~bpo70+1 in this case
07:39<maxy>Or you can say apt-get install nmap/wheezy-backports
07:41<maxy>You can also pin the packages you want to follow from backports using apt preferences: https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences
07:42<maxy>I wouldnt recommend using -t or pinning the whole wheezy-backports archive, though.
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07:47<qwk>thanks maxy
07:47<qwk>but its also possible to # all the orginal packets
07:47<qwk>?
07:48<petn-randall>* "I _would_ recommend using -t over pinning the whole wheezy-backports archive, though."
07:48<gsimmons>maxy: Pinning hasn't been necessary for receiving updates to backported packages for some time now.
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07:48<petn-randall>qwk: What do you mean? You can't comment the main archive, wheezy-backports is only a supplement to the main one.
07:49<qwk>alright
07:49<qwk>but like im doing apt-cache search nmap
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07:49<qwk>I dont find the backports packages
07:49<petn-randall>!tell qwk -about bat
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07:52<maxy>petn-randall: bat ?
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07:54<Mrfai>the bash security fix breaks my FAI shell scripts which exports functions to subprocesses :-(
07:55<Mrfai>Is there a way to enable exporting of functions?
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07:56<jelly>Mrfai: apat from downgrading to the vulnerable version of bash?
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07:56<Mrfai>yes, I like to use the new bash version, but what to have the old behaviour
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07:57<Mrfai>I get error like this: error importing function definition for `BASH_FUNC_task_softupdate
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07:58*jelly still shocked someone actually used the feature
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08:00<maxy>Mrfai: Can't you source a common shell script to load the functions in the current bash session?
08:01<Mrfai>some functions may be redefined by the user, so I do not know the complete list of all files to source.
08:02<jm_>it's probably best to submit a bug then
08:04<Mrfai>It's already reported: #763164
08:04<Mrfai>But I'm looking for a solution
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08:53<PaulePanter>Hi. With Debian Wheezy:
08:53<PaulePanter>W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://http.debian.net wheezy-proposed-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 8B48AD6246925553 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org>
08:53<PaulePanter>from `LANG=C sudo aptitude update`.
08:53<stemid>I'm looking to replicate a feature from RHEL in Debian. yum-cron together with yum -C in RHEL can download all patches waiting to be installed, e-mail a list of them to me, and then I can with yum -C install only those patches and not any others. can I re-create this behavior in Debian somehow? the last step with -C (--cacheonly) is an optional objective.
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08:58<usrnix>hi, how do I make debian completely forget about a package and install it as if for the first time? ( have tried remove and purge), I had nginx installed and tried to go to nginx-extras but it fails if the conf doesn't work..
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09:01<stemid>purge should be enough unless you've created files that are not covered by dpkg but still read by nginx.
09:01<stemid>dpkg -L nginx
09:01<dpkg>No packages found matching nginx
09:01<stemid>or whatever the package name is
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09:01<usrnix>nginx is virtual, nginx-full
09:02<usrnix>dpkg -L nginx-full
09:02<dpkg>ii nginx-full 1.2-14.2 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
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09:02<stemid>I mean you should run dpkg -L on your system because it lists all associated files.
09:02<usrnix>it's not installed
09:03<themill>usrnix: specifically which file is the problem?
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09:04<usrnix>themill: well to begin with it was my custom config so I deleted it, now it wants nginx.conf back, then it wanted it populated
09:05<themill>that's in the nginx-common package not nginx-full
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09:57<arand_>I'm trying to get output from git --word-diff=color (i.e. terminal color escape sequences) into a pdf file, or html. Does anyone know how to do that besides a lot of sed?
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09:58<PaulePanter>arand_: Print the terminal “image” from GNOME Terminal for example?
09:58<PaulePanter>arand_: Otherwise no idea.
09:59<arand_>I don't want a raster image, no.
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10:29<qwk>Hi, guys, I want to install zsh, do you think this tut will work? https://gist.github.com/tsabat/1498393
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10:32<qwk>or should I git it from https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh ? Anyone with experience?
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10:33<centrx>qwk, apt-get install zsh
10:34<qwk>alrite
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10:37<qwk>centrx: do you use zsh if u dont mind the question ?
10:37<centrx>I do not
10:37<qwk>okok
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10:39<peter1138>why would you need to restart just because you changed shell?
10:40<peter1138>qwk, forget that crap, just install zsh with apt-get install zsh
10:41<qwk>oki
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10:48<marcpv>please, anyone know how to edit the grub entries? I installed debian 7 alongside with other linux and it appears as "unknown linux"
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11:52<Nailor>Hey, am I correct if I've concluded that dh_auto_build does not respect --package flags?
11:53<Nailor>I
11:53<Nailor>Whops
11:53<Nailor>I'm wondering if passing --package or --no-package in build time should be supported or not
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12:03<maxy>Nailor: What would be the meaning on dh_auto_build --package foo ?
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12:04<maxy>Nailor: Let's assume a simple Makefile based package, would it do make foo instead of make all ?
12:05<arand_>mvd: aha! (Thanks!)
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12:06<Nailor>maxy: perhaps. I'm just wondering if that should be supported or not
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12:07<Nailor>maxy: or, more to the point, if a build tool in dh sequence should support that
12:07<Nailor>maxy: dh_auto_build is probably a bad example, because it aims to be automatic
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12:09<Nailor>maxy: I'm thinking of case where a monolithic source tree would contain both client and server in separate source directories and you need a slightly different different options on those, so wouldn't defining --package in that case kind of make sense
12:09<Nailor>maxy: overall thinking around if the build step should be able to distinguish between packages :p
12:09<maxy>Nailor: it depends on the tool. In that case you don't want to call dh_auto_build
12:09<Nailor>Related to the fact that I maintain a build tool dh-virtualenv
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12:10<Nailor>And kind of leaning towards that if I would like to split it in the future into three different steps (build/install/clean) instead of one monolithic, it would probably make sense
12:10<Nailor>maxy: sure :P
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12:15<maxy>Nailor: Mmh, in any case, are you sure the -p -N is not available to the buildsytem ? It's a basic debhelper option after all.
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12:15<PLN>Hi everyone
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12:16<PLN>Could someone help me with some packages issues? I don't know anymore what to do..
12:17<Maulkin>!ask
12:17<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:19<PLN>While trying to connect to a VPN on my debian laptop, it seems that I may have uninstalled network-manager. I don't have any Internet connection anymore, the network manager window doesn't let me and any network although ifconfig still shows my wlan0 interface
12:19<PLN>*doesn't let me _connect to_ any network
12:20<medicalwei>About #730742, as I am using Adobe CFF hinter for the font I installed separately from Debian, I am wondering why the update turns it off for GNOME's sake.
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12:28<medicalwei>What's the Debian way if I would like to turn an compile-time option back on since the DD turns it off...?
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12:29<centrx>medicalwei, apt-get source <package name>, edit the Makefile or whatever, then build it with dpkg-buildpackage
12:29<centrx>medicalwei, https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/build.en.html
12:30<medicalwei>centrx: okay. i was thinking in that way.
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12:41<babilen>dpkg: tell medicalwei -about recompile package
12:41<babilen>dpkg: tell medicalwei -about package recompile
12:41<medicalwei>babilen: now i am doing recompiling
12:41<babilen>(naturally)
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12:42*medicalwei use mk-build-deps to generate package dependency and install it, remove the patch that used to remove the option, and bumps a debian version number and recompiles the package. But I need to recompile for two archs since there are two on my system.
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12:49<Chico>HOL
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12:49<Chico>hoa
12:49<Chico>hola
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12:55<Maulkin>!es-social
12:55<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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13:19<Chico>quien habl
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13:43<dzan>any ideas on installing dkms without internet access? ( DVD 1 doens't have gcc and some other packages on it and I need build-essentials for dkms )
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14:09<claw_>hey there how can i change the default kernel to boot using grub? 3.16 makes problems here
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14:12<claw_>i know there is grub-set-default but 3.14 is in a submenu
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14:59<quantum>does anyone know a tool to copy a failing HD to a new one of the same size
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15:01<quantum>found it. ddrescue I think
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16:10<rostam>HI Have a question on 'tc' utility, could it rate limit at millisecond range, like 50kb per 10ms ? thx
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16:15<jimmy_>hi
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16:16<jimmy_>can somebody please help me? Im having a bit of trouble with creating a bootable USB for debian
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16:17<backbox>halo
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16:18<backbox>salam kenal semua
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16:19<devil>jimmy_: what are you using?
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16:21<devil>jimmy_: let me guess: unetbootin?
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16:27<valdyn>rostam: read the documentation of the available queueing disciplines
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17:09<anonymous>ectb kto
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17:25<h2>Is there a proper location to report full catastrophic systemd faillures? I had one on my sid system, which I had not upgraded sine 2013-12, waiting for systemd to settle. I dont' want to start repeated bug reprts etc on the bug tracker. I am willing to spend some time helping debug the issue but I cannot run systemd on the failed system because well, it fails catastrophically
17:25<h2>luckily I was able to boot by purging systemd and re-installing sysv-core
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17:27<h2>This level of failure means I cannot even dream of 'upgrading' any jesse system to systemd remotely for example, particularly not one of any complexity
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17:29<Marillion>h2: join #debian-next or #debian-systemd for your problem
17:29<h2>ok, thanks
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17:29<h2>I fear for our futures, lol
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17:37<titou>hi everyone !
17:37<dragon>hi
17:38-!-ceon [~ceon@188.21.219.162] has joined #debian
17:38<ceon>Ave
17:38-!-Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.]
17:39<ceon>I am a Newbie
17:39<ceon>kind of
17:39<ceon>Miss mortis contemptio
17:39-!-pq [~pqp@87.114.51.154] has joined #debian
17:39<ceon>Fruends in yahoo
17:39<ceon>I got just one Quest
17:40<ceon>Is it possible to run Debian non IBM Yoga?
17:40<dragon>currently upgrading my vm's from 13.10 to 14.04 LTS. Any issues? Concerns? Things to watch out for?
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17:40<ceon>I need a new lightweight Begleiter
17:41<ceon>cant translate Begleiter = German
17:41<ceon>Begleite is a mix from notebook and samsung S4
17:41<dragon>guess it depends what version of debian?
17:42<ceon>I am always broke - Student
17:42<dragon>and if you want to run with gnome or kde and other GUIs
17:42<ceon>so i Have to think more :-)
17:42<dragon>what are your specs?
17:42<ceon>what is the difference?
17:42<ceon> I like Nvidia
17:43<ceon>and the most notebooks I know
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17:43<ceon>get very hot
17:43<ceon>uncool :-)
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17:43<retrospectacus>!ubuntuirc dragon
17:43<dpkg>dragon: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
17:43<ceon>I love Lenovo Yoga Pad
17:43-!-evanvarvell [~evanvarve@97-88-184-228.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #debian
17:44<ceon>Does Open Source got any Touch Screen Technologie?
17:44<dragon>For example I've a machine in the corner which has intel atom processor an acer aspire one
17:44-!-shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:44<dragon>and runs fine with gnome 2 interface
17:44<ceon>I do not ask, to link me an asshole
17:44<ceon>I ask,
17:44<ceon> cause I do not know
17:45<ceon>I got no Idea how to program Touch scren
17:45<ceon>screen
17:46<ceon>Other people too
17:46<dragon>gnome 3 is touch friendly yes
17:46<ceon> do
17:46<dragon>so is unity i believe
17:46<dragon>i've not being around kde land in a while so i wouldn't know
17:46<ceon>Its Android?
17:46<ceon>I just started University
17:47<ceon>I am 48 years
17:47<ceon>and I decided
17:47<ceon>to go/run
17:47<ceon>I am not in Internet for fuck
17:47<titou>ok ...
17:47<ceon>I just like to learn
17:48<ceon>and have fun :-)
17:48<ceon>aye
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17:48<planetmaker>it seems to me some people are here just for swearing
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17:48<ceon>I am kind of Viking Blond
17:48<ceon>NHot very smart
17:49<ceon>but high RQ
17:49<ceon> EQ?
17:49<ceon> :-)
17:49-!-Jjedi [~jvera@200.93.15.97] has joined #debian
17:49<ceon>So I got 2 Quests
17:49<ceon>1.
17:49<ceon>Is Eclipse easy to work
17:50<ceon>2. I love Zend?
17:50<ceon>:-)
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17:50<ceon>Sometimes I think
17:50<ceon>I thank God
17:50<ceon>wich God it will ever be
17:51<titou>I have a problem with samba... nmbd not running... fresh install of wheezy (64b)
17:51<ceon>Thank u God for mine brain gg*
17:51-!-birch [~reca@cpe-24-193-60-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
17:51<ceon>always happy
17:51<titou>cannot simply start nmbd
17:51<ceon>need no pills
17:51<ceon>got plants gg*
17:51<planetmaker>ceon, for general chat, join #moocows. This is a support channel, not a free-style chat
17:51<ceon>Alpha Blondie gg*
17:52<ceon>sorry very much planetmaker
17:52<ceon>please remarl the planet Sacchertorte
17:52<titou>I heard there is a bug introduced with packet samba ?
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17:52<ceon>is owned by Österreich gg*
17:52<ceon>Aye - sorry
17:53<titou>omg it will be a long night ...
17:53-!-swo [~swo@ip-78-94-252-249.hsi02.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Kein bock mehr.]
17:53<ceon>If I will get any quest in next 3 years I study
17:53<ceon>Debian
17:53-!-swo [~swo@ip-78-94-252-249.hsi02.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #debian
17:53<ceon>I will com back
17:53<ceon>I think erlier
17:53<ceon> :-)
17:53<ceon>Wish u all a very nice week :-)
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17:54<ceon>Dar kar dar
17:54<ceon>Ave Glorias lol*
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17:55<ceon_>list
17:55<ceon_> /list
17:55<ceon_>\list
17:55<ceon_>uncool
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17:55<titou>using samba 3.6.6
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17:56<titou>so any idea how to solve the nmbd problem
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17:57<Guest146>I have Debian VM's that sometimes will stop being able to resolve names. I can ping the second name server and it works, but I can't ping the primary name server. Any other VM on the box can ping the NS, ESXi can ping the NS, just not the boothost. If I reboot the VM, I know it'll work again, but this happens randomly to random guests. I can't figure out what's causing this and would love some
17:57<Guest146>help debugging if anyone is up for it.
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18:17<ompaul>Guest146: ESX - vmware?
18:18<Guest146>yup
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18:20<Guest146>I tried 'service networking restart' and it didn't grab a new address, then I logged into the console through vmware and ran dhclient eth0 and it grabbed an address, and now it can ping the name server again.
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18:21<ompaul>Guest146: I'm not going to get into supporting vmware as I've no knowledge of it, set a static ip address set static resolv.conf and then you might have some luck
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18:22<ompaul>Guest146: make sure you have a route if this fails I point the finger at the virtual nics
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18:22<ompaul>Guest146: if only because I have debian boxes that are real and they don't suffer from this, they have other problems but that is because I am their keeper :)
18:22<Guest146>It doesn't seem like it's the fault of vmware, I just wanted to share all info. 'route -n' shows what I'd expect when it's broken.
18:23<Guest146>Restarting networking fixing it is just confusing me. arp table looks fine, routes look fine, I can ping other things, just can't ping this one address.
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18:23<ompaul>can you get to it from other machines?
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18:24<Guest146>yup, it just takes a long time to log in because ssh tries to do the reverse lookup
18:26<Guest146>It's working now, so I guess I'm trying to figure out what to look at the next time it breaks. I'm struggling pretty hard with this one. :(
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18:30<ompaul>Guest146: can you ping it from outside
18:30<ompaul>i.e. establish a list of things you know and things you don't
18:30<ompaul>I'm still pointing at the virtual nicks aI know that vmware will be more than happy to take your money
18:30<ompaul>you could have used kvm never had that problem with it
18:31<Guest146>We already have a support contract with them. I just wanted to try to figure it out since their support is pretty terrible. I'll start a ticket with them.
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18:35<Guest146>ompaul: thanks! I'll see what I can dig up the next time it breaks. .. We have a large vmware cluster in two DCs that work perfectly fine, always, never issues. These are remote facilities that have one vmware host and one debian and one win7 VM, the debian VM is the one with the issues.
18:35<Guest146>It's screwy...
18:36<ompaul>no, it's just missing information
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18:36<ompaul>document it all
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18:38<Guest146>will do :)
18:38<Guest146>Challenges like this can be fun.
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18:39<ompaul>is the DNS on the same network?
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18:42<Guest146>hm.. Looks like a backup circuit took over during that time. It's possible the box couldn't handle that VRRP change. This is looking less like a debian thing now.
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19:06<_4_non>hallo. how can i fix my clock? command date -u is the right time for me now, but sudo hwclock is 2 hours ahead. If i go to bios and set it right, then i found my clock two hours ahead. Briefly speaking (sorry, I'm not so good at english), is ther a way to make them the same?
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19:08<ceon>Angels
19:08<ceon>Get tired and die
19:09<ceon>?
19:09<ceon>Never
19:09<ceon>Angels will love and help u
19:09<ceon>:-=
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19:10<rryoumaa>well, they ARE better for some circumstances than venture capitalists
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21:18<reltih>hello guys, I need some help
21:18<reltih>Just installed the newest Debian over my windows
21:18<reltih>and its not booting, just a black screen, cant type anything
21:18<reltih>ctrl alt del works fine for rebooting tho
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21:20<sney>how far does it get in the boot process? do you get a menu?
21:21<reltih>I just get my "asus express gate" screen
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21:23<reltih>It quickly dissapears as always
21:23<sney>probably failed installing the bootloader. load up your debian installer again, choose rescue mode, and select "install bootloader" from the menu after going through the initial steps
21:23<reltih>meh I used some "live" windows installer
21:24<reltih>cause I had no CD
21:24<abrotman>video card?
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21:24<reltih>Radeon 6870
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21:25<reltih>I guees I gotta go to my friends place to burn a cd with debian
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21:26<gomex_>Hi guys
21:26<gomex_>and girls
21:30<reltih>sney, I think I got some 2 years old CD with Debian
21:31<reltih>Will it work?
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21:33<abrotman>the CD is two years old, or the OS is?
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21:34<reltih>both I guess
21:34<reltih>it was burnt 2 years ago so
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21:39<abrotman>reltih: try it
21:39<reltih>i just found a CD with TAILS lol
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21:45<amf123>Hi! Does anybody know how to install AMD videocard on debian? Thx
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21:45<Nemoder>!radeon
21:45<dpkg>Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>, <radeon audio>. http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>.
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21:58<smacko>Any opinions on running a x11 application (gimp) in chroot?
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