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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-10-03

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01:59<Tam5>If a user manual is available in html, how can I search the manual for a keyword? For example in firefox, I go select Edit Find and search keywords for just that page, but I want to search all the pages for a keyword
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02:00<Tam5>Any help appreciated
02:00<Tam5>Maybe there is a way to print all the html pages to pdf, then OCR it, then search that document by keyword?
02:01<jm_>can you be more specific about which user manual this is about?
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02:02<Tam5>sylpheed
02:02<Tam5>I would like to read the log files because I cannot get it to connect to the isp, some kind of error. I have changed settings by trial and error for an hour and so I thought I would try the user manual approach.
02:03<rryoumaa>you can run w3m on the manual, or even just grep it
02:03<jm_>for that you have /usr/share/doc/sylpheed-doc/manual/<LANG>/sylpheed.sgml.gz
02:04<Tam5>Ok I just have to look up w3m, find out how grep works and what it does, then find out what a .sgml.gz file is and how to access it
02:05<rryoumaa>your effort on grep will be rewarded
02:05<Tam5>sorry getting frustrated with this. Sypheed has always worked for me before...I managed to find out wher ethe log is located....Ok I will start with grep
02:05<jm_>sgml is generic language and the file can be converted to pdf/html/txt ...
02:05<Tam5>Interesting
02:06<Tam5>When you say /user/share/doc etc, is that the default location for sylpheed's doc on Debian or most linux distros?
02:07<mdik>hi. my aptitude says in the status summary that there is "…and 1 not upgraded"
02:07<mdik>but aptitude full-upgrade does not upgrade anything
02:07<mdik>any ideas why that is?
02:07<Tam5>I will navigate to that folder and check it
02:07<jm_>Tam5: mostly yes, best to see package contents -- dpkg -L sylpheed-doc
02:07<Tam5>I will do that, thank you
02:08<twb>mdik: aptitude search ~U
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02:09<Tam5>The log says - ** Required APOP timestamp not found in greeting
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02:09<mdik>twb: thanks. that helps. i still don't get why it is not upgraded
02:10<mdik>it is xserver-xorg-video-geode
02:10<twb>mdik: what package
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02:10<mdik>Tam5: you are using POP?
02:10<Tam5>Yes
02:10<Tam5>pop3
02:11<Tam5> LibSylph-WARNING: [22:35:50] Error occurred while processing mail.
02:11<Tam5>Do you think the 22:35:50 is the error number, or the time?
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02:12<mdik>Tam5: your time
02:12<mdik>Tam5: in the accoutn preferences, maybe uncheck "use APOP"?
02:12<Tam5>Not a very helpful warning. It must have something to do with the time stamp in the greeting
02:12<twb>Tam5: APOP is a security feature. It sounds like your mail server doesn't support it, so sylpheed refuses to talk to it.
02:12<Tam5>I will uncheck apop and see what that does
02:13<mdik>i'm not sure what APOP was anymore but i think you can do plain pop as long as you do it over tls/ssl
02:13<twb>Yes it would be better to uses pop3s or imaps
02:13<twb>Either on the TLS port, or using STARTTLS.
02:13<Tam5>..and it just signed in....You guys are totally awesome
02:13<Tam5>Unchecking the APOP did it. Thanks very much
02:14<twb>APOP only uses md5 which according to Val Aurora's table, has been broken since 2004
02:14<rryoumaa>how broken?
02:14<Tam5>I did not realize that, never really knew what apop was
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02:14<twb>rryoumaa: completely
02:14<twb>rryoumaa: do not use it in security contexts
02:15<twb>http://valerieaurora.org/hash.html
02:15<mdik>Tam5: if you're searching for a rabbit hole to go down to: read up on all the mail technolgies/protocols
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02:16<Tam5>That sounds like a good idea, have to learn that stuff at some point
02:16<twb>hard to believe keccak became SHA3 two whole years ago
02:20<mdik>and how cool that somebody besides me is using sylpheed! (-:
02:20<twb>and not claws? ;P
02:21<jm_>yeah why not use claws?
02:21<mdik>it's a bit too ambitious for my taste
02:21<mdik>like "here, have a nother checkbox you don't need"
02:21<twb>I used them back when claws was explicitly the dev branch of sylpheed
02:22<mdik>it's alright, though. i will start teaching it at cryptoparties because it is bundled with gpg4win
02:23<Tam5>I love sylpheed, robust solid email client
02:23<mdik>yep
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02:24<twb>I gave up on them when I noticed all their useful features were just copied from emacs anyway
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02:28<mdik>i had my flamewar for the day already...
02:28<Tam5>I am currently using gscan2pdf to attempt to ocr a pdf. I am getting no results with tessaract, gibberish with GOCR, and poor results with cuniform
02:28<twb>sorry, wasn't trying to flame
02:29<Tam5>I have never used gscan2pdf... I would like a GUI as I am a linux beginner. Would you guys have any reccomendations for an package that has a gui and can OCR a pdf file?
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02:32<jm_>why would you OCR a PDF file/
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02:33<Tam5>I have a billion of them dumped in a folder in windows. If I OCR them, I can search them by keyword and then start to organize them in Linux
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02:33<Tam5>cant pdf's be ocred?
02:34<Tam5>I need to organize them based on the contents of the pdf's text
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02:36<jm_>there are search indexers that can parse PDF files
02:36<Tam5>but not if they are not ocred correct?
02:37<mdik>jm_: parse but not ocr i guess
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02:38<jm_>Tam5: are you talking about PDF with images containing text or plain PDF files with text?
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02:40<Tam5>I dont know. I used to use BlueBeam revu until it stopped working. I would scan a page of text, and then OCR it.
02:40<jm_>i recommend you give desktop search tools a try first
02:41<Tam5>You mean for Linux?
02:41<jm_>yes
02:41<Tam5>I will start trying to find that now
02:41<mdik>Tam5: just a few hints from a non-english page: unpaper, yagf, cuneiform-qt, vietocr, gimagereader, ocrfeeder
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02:42<jm_>but if you are talking about scans, then yes, you will need OCR tools too
02:42<Tam5>These terms are starting to become more familiar, don't know what they are quiete yet though
02:42<Tam5>So the Desktop search tools with OCR tools
02:42<mdik>what i wrote: all programs with graphical frontends (except unpaper)
02:43<mdik>Tam5: if you want ocr, desktop search won't help you
02:44<Tam5>Ok..
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02:44<jm_>yeah search will only be useful after you OCR them for those
02:44<Tam5>I will start randomly intalling some of the mentioned things and see what happends
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02:51<sergio19>ola
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03:00<Marcos>hola...
03:00<Nika_nika>this is what country
03:01<Marcos>I´m in argentina ¡you?
03:01<sergio19>oola
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03:02<Nika_nika>I'm from Yakutia
03:02<Marcos>Were are from?
03:02<sergio19>soy de cordoba
03:02<sergio19>spain
03:02<Marcos>Saludos Sergio desde Buenos Aires, Argentina
03:02<sergio19>jejeje
03:03<sergio19>y saludos desde cordoba spaña
03:03<Marcos>Hi Nika_Nika, i from buenos aires, argentine
03:03<Marcos>me salio complicado este chat, en dos idiomas jaja
03:03<sergio19>marcos donde esta yakutia
03:03<Marcos>ahora la pregunto.}
03:04<sergio19>where are yukita?
03:04<Marcos>Nika_nika, where is yakutia?
03:04<Nika_nika>understood a little of what to write
03:04<Nika_nika>yes
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03:04<Nika_nika>yakutia
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03:05<Marcos>Nika, sorry, i'm speak english very bad
03:05<jm_>do you have any debian related topic to discuss?
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03:06<Marcos>hi jm
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03:06<planetmaker>!es
03:06<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
03:06<sergio19>marcos cuantos años tienes
03:06<sergio19>????
03:06<Marcos>el 8 de octubre cumplo 49
03:07<jm_>please use english here and only debian related topic, otherwise join another channel (next time I will silence you both without a warning)
03:07-!-Nika_nika is now known as veronika
03:07<Marcos>soy docente de la UTN y me dieron a cargo una netbook con linux y la estoy probando. ya que esta charlo.
03:07<jm_>Marcos: see above -- /join #debian-es
03:08<Marcos>jm_ are you moderador?
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03:08<veronika>bye
03:08<jm_>Marcos: yes
03:08<jm_>(to simplify things)
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03:09<Marcos>i'm theacher and I only see the site.
03:10<jm_>what site?
03:11<Marcos>the site on the new computer of UTN
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03:11<helmut_>hi
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03:12<Marcos>and... we have this link here
03:12<jm_>what's the url?
03:12<Marcos>hi helmut
03:13<Marcos>The University of Tecnology from Argentina (N- national)
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03:16<cateract>hi
03:16<cateract>I've one query
03:16<cateract>I can't send mail from mail command
03:16<cateract>I want to ask that, Where do we put the sender info
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03:18<Marcos>Hi cateract. JM_ is moderador and speak debian related topic
03:18<planetmaker>Marcos, and it is one
03:19<Marcos>hi planetmaker
03:19<jm_>you'll typically use From: header
03:19<Marcos>I' don't not
03:20<cateract>jm_, at what location??
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03:20<cateract>jm_, or during each time I type the command?
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03:20<Marcos>y go to #debian-es
03:21<Marcos>bye
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03:22<jm_>cateract: I have no idea what you are asking me
03:22<cateract>jm_, about that From: header,
03:22<cateract>how do i use it for sending mail
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03:23<cateract>jm_, I usually send mails using $ mail <email id> -s <subject >
03:23<cateract>command
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03:24<MarvelDigital>i'm trying to get conky running on debian 7.6, but it keeps complaining about no output methods selected, i tried googling it, but haven't found a solution, any suggestions?
03:24<jm_>cateract: there are gazillion web pages with examples http://nixtricks.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/unix-send-mail-from-the-command-line-using-mail-and-sendmail-commands/
03:24<jm_>MarvelDigital: which packages have you installed?
03:24<cateract>jm_, I'll check them out
03:26<MarvelDigital>jm_, i installed conky from the reps, version: 1.9, my kernel: 2.6.32-5-amd64
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03:26<cateract>jm_, this was exactly what i wanted
03:26<cateract>jm_, thanks
03:26<jm_>cateract: no worries
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03:27<cateract>jm_, but now, can't i export my sender email id in terminal session
03:27<jm_>MarvelDigital: do you have /etc/conky/conky.conf?
03:27<jm_>cateract: what do you mean with export it?
03:27<cateract>so that I 'd skip that lengthy command
03:27<cateract>jm_, I mean like storing it in some rc file
03:28<cateract>jm_, or like we export proxy in a terminal session
03:28<jm_>cateract: well you could write a shell function
03:29<cateract>jm_, If i couldn't find anything which works this utility by default, I'll have to write it anyway :)
03:29<MarvelDigital>jm_, yes I do, previously it was complaining about no such configurations which was strange because it was the same modules available from the conky website.
03:30<cateract>jm_, but I really thought there should be some proper file like they provide for fetchmailrc or procmailrc
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03:30<cateract>jm_, in which you can store the sender info at one place
03:30<jm_>cateract: naah, because you typically use a MUA which does that for you, these interfaces are not really meant to be convenient
03:31<jm_>MarvelDigital: what's its md5sum? md5sum /etc/conky/conky.conf
03:31<cateract>jm_, I don't understand why they are not convenient?
03:31<MarvelDigital>jm_, 2f2eac2065aaf2c3e15270346e444e55
03:32<jm_>MarvelDigital: so you don't have debian default config file there?
03:33<jm_>cateract: because for people who want to use it this is enough, for those that don't find it convenient, they should look for a different approach
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03:34<cateract>jm_, alright.
03:34<cateract>jm_, thanks again, you made it easy for me
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03:35<MarvelDigital>jm_, i have it, but i'm using a customize one now, or trying to use.
03:35<jm_>MarvelDigital: right, my recommendation would be to first test using the debian default config file
03:36<MarvelDigital>jm_, ok i will go try that and get back to you...thanks
03:36<jm_>MarvelDigital: for example, try conky -c /etc/conky/conky_no_x11.conf
03:36<jm_>assuming you haven't touched that file
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03:37<MarvelDigital>jm_, the default works within the terminal, although it's complaining about localhost: connection refused
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03:39<jm_>MarvelDigital: which conky packages do you have installed now? dpkg -l | grep conky (use a pastebin, /msg dpkg paste)
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03:41<MarvelDigital>jm_, just this: http://paste.debian.net/124262/
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03:42<jm_>MarvelDigital: install conky-std
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03:42<jm_>MarvelDigital: or conky-all
03:42<jm_>conky-all is the GUI version
03:42<jm_>(but it can also be a text version)
03:43<MarvelDigital>jm_, thanks so much... that worked perfectly.
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03:46<jm_>MarvelDigital: no problem
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04:45<cargill>hi, is there a way to check how many (security) updates need to be installed on a system (provided that apt-get update has just been run)?
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04:51<jm_>cargill: look at debsecan
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04:53<cargill>jm_: that's an interesting way of doing it, might do that as well, but what I'm interested in is to be able to tell that "x packages need update, y of which are actually security updates"
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04:55<jm_>cargill: in that case try apt-get -s upgrade
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04:57<cargill>I can use unattended-upgrades, but on some machines I have to plan the upgrades manually
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04:58<cargill>ah, -s means simulate, is that parseable?
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04:59<jm_>maybe apticron can help too
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06:15<asfethan>greetings, how to install 32bit libgtk2.0-0 when it conflicts with 64b one???
06:15<asfethan>I have 64b installation with multiarch
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06:16<devil>asfethan: please paste output of whatever command you used
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06:18<asfethan>devil: I'm trying to install this lib eg. in aptitude but dependencies are set that it will conflicts with 64b version and thus half of my system packages based on that libgtk will be removed
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06:19<ixi>asfethan pastebin full outputs
06:19<ixi>of what you're doing
06:19<devil>asfethan: i do not want YOUR interpretation, i want the output in a pastebin
06:19<ixi>including the command that you invoke
06:19<ixi>apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 would also help
06:22<asfethan>http://paste.debian.net/124284/
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06:23<ixi>asfethan apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0
06:23<ixi>pastebin please
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06:24<asfethan>http://paste.debian.net/124285/
06:25<ixi>,v libgtk2.0-0
06:25<judd>Package: libgtk2.0-0 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.20.1-2; wheezy: 2.24.10-2; jessie: 2.24.24-1; sid: 2.24.24-1
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06:31<asfethan>ixi: do I need an older version?
06:32<ixi>asfethan try asking on #debian-next since that's what you're using
06:32<asfethan>ixi: thx
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06:35<safinaskar>why package libsdl1.2debian has such name?
06:35<safinaskar>why "debian" in the end of the name?
06:35<safinaskar>this is some debian-specific functionality?
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06:36<safinaskar>debian breaked API?
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06:38<R30N>hi, any1 can help with decoding?
06:40<Maulkin>safinaskar: See http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/libs/libsdl1.2/unstable_changelog, the 1.2.2-3.1 entry near the bottom
06:41<Maulkin>safinaskar: Basically, Debian fixed the API.
06:41<Maulkin>R30N: just ask!
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06:48<R30N>Maulkin I have problem with hex, after decoding to text the phrase isnt proper, why?
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06:52<Maulkin>R30N: That doesn't really make much sense - what are you trying to do, which version of Debian are you running, and what package are you having a problem with?
06:54<R30N>Im running backtrack4 :) Im tryin to decode pass, hex working, decoded phrase not
06:55<Apollo>This is the debian support channel, not the backtrack support channel
06:59<R30N>yes, but I cant find bt irc channel here, its simple prob 4u
07:01<jm_>!bt4
07:01<dpkg>BackTrack is not Debian and is not supported in #debian (ask me about <based on debian>). Try http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ or #backtrack-linux on irc.freenode.net instead. BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Lucid (as of BackTrack 5), previously <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. Superseded by <kali linux>.
07:01<jm_>there we fouind it for you
07:03<R30N>thank you
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07:21<safinaskar>Maulkin: thanks
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08:04<dyrnade>hi guys, i wanted to install AWN but i didnt appear in synaptic. which repos should i have to get more applications ?
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08:06<darthanubis>I remember AWN lol
08:06<jm_>which applications?
08:06<darthanubis>isn't that the dockbar?
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08:06<darthanubis>taskbar
08:06<dyrnade>yeap
08:06<darthanubis>yup
08:07<dyrnade>i mean i want to get more application than i have now , for now i have 3 repos in my source.list
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08:28<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>yo niggaz
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08:59<anonymous>seems the people arent talking
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09:00<devil>what people?
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09:00<Brigo>anonymous, this is not a chatting channel, this is a support channel
09:01<Brigo>if you want to chant join #debian-offtopic
09:01<devil>no chanting allowed there :)
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09:02<Brigo>you can chat but systemd, from topic: init system ranting → /dev/null :)
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09:04<devil>we had more than enough of that
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09:35<agus>hola
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10:00<Xylon>I've just installed mysql and it won't start... when I run "service mysql start" it just sais failed but doesn't tell me why
10:01<Maulkin>Xylon: what version of Debian are you running? Anything in the logs?
10:01<Xylon>wheezy
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10:01<Xylon>/var/log/mysql.err and /var/log/mysql.log are both empty
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10:03<Maulkin>Xylon: Can you pastebin the exact command used, and the output?
10:03<Xylon>not very interesting but here you go: https://bpaste.net/show/81b04c8fa8a6
10:04<Xylon>havn't done any configuration, I just installed it
10:05<Maulkin>Odd.
10:05<Maulkin>Can you try with setting DEBIAN_SCRIPT_DEBUG in your environment?
10:05<Maulkin>eg: export DEBIAN_SCRIPT_DEBUG=y
10:06<Xylon>output the same
10:08<Maulkin>Xylon: anythign in syslog?
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10:08<Xylon>ah yes
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10:10<Xylon>https://bpaste.net/show/9d944db70ff5
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10:11<Maulkin>um... how much memory do you have free?
10:12<Xylon>that's it
10:12<Xylon>this machine only has 256MB memory
10:12<Maulkin>yeah... that's going to be a problem for you.
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10:12<Xylon>dangit :)
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10:13<Maulkin>What's taking up all your ram?
10:13<Maulkin>Xylon: You could edit /etc/my.cnf and reduce that by editing innodb_buffer_pool_size
10:14<Xylon>OK, let me try and see what's using all the memory, must be something email related
10:14<Xylon>have a mail server
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10:18<Xylon>I will try to make amavis and dkimproxy use less memory
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10:49<javier>hi. im on debian testing. systemd, lightdm, xfce. I'm experiencing weird issue at startup, lightdm keeps restarting, only tty1 works. I have to stop lightdm service and run startxfce4 :S
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10:49<javier>once every now and then it boots normal, with all ttys but is the exception
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10:50<javier>i don't know where to look or what to do
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11:05<deZillium>javier: out of curiosity, does it restart while on youtube?
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12:07<zeroexistence>Hello
12:07<zeroexistence>There's something I want to ask.
12:08<zeroexistence>Regarding smuxi in debian.
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12:09<peter1138>dpkg, ask
12:09<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:12<zeroexistence>The truth is its really about IRC. I try to connect to some channel but this is the output. "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services". I don't know what this means
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12:13<zeroexistence>Does this channel required registered nickname on that channel?
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12:15<peter1138>it means you need to talk to nickserv on that network, normally
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12:17<zeroexistence>Ohh..something like this?? " /msg NickServ yourpassword youremailaddress"
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12:18<peter1138>mostly they tell you, just query it with "help" and it should give you further details
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12:23<vincent___>Hi everyone, i’m Vincent. I came here after many days trying to configure my Kimsufi serveur :/ and at this point i won’t mind a bit of help. But don’t know if that’s the right place to ask my question. Thx
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12:24<Maulkin>vincent___: Hi. If it's running Debian, we can try and help.
12:25<Maulkin>vincent___: Otherwise, it seems that http://forum.kimsufi.com/forumdisplay.php?3-Dedicated-Servers is the best place to ask.
12:25<vincent___>Thx Maulkin, yes it is :) ! So here is the thing. My problem is with Bind
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12:26<Maulkin>vincent___: We'll need some more details than that :)
12:26<vincent___>:) Ok, so i want to add a domain pointing on my serveur.
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12:27<vincent___>I have follow many tuto, and i think i done everything right.
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12:27<vincent___>but in my zone files
12:28<vincent___>i got : $TTL 12H
12:28<vincent___>$ORIGIN my-univ.com.
12:28<vincent___>@ IN SOA ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net. postmaster.my-univ.com. (
12:28<vincent___> 2014100116 ; Serial
12:28<vincent___> 8H ; Refresh
12:28<vincent___> 30M ; Retry
12:28<vincent___> 4W ; Expire
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12:28<vincent___> 8H ; Minimum TTL
12:28<vincent___>)
12:28<vincent___>@ IN NS ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net.
12:28<vincent___>@ IN NS sdns1.ovh.ca
12:28<vincent___> IN A 198.245.51.179
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12:28<vincent___>ns IN A 198.245.51.179
12:28-!-mode/#debian [+o Maulkin] by ChanServ
12:28<vincent___>www IN CNAME my-univ.com.
12:28<vincent___>cloud IN A 198.245.51.179
12:28-!-mode/#debian [+q vincent___!*@*] by Maulkin
12:28<@Maulkin>vincent___: please use paste.debian.net - otherwise you're flooding 600+ people here!
12:28-!-mode/#debian [-q vincent___!*@*] by Maulkin
12:28-!-mode/#debian [-o Maulkin] by Maulkin
12:29<vincent___>arf sorry :( my bad manny excuses
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12:30<Novice201y>Hello. I've polish translated Debian 7.6 but LibreOffice inside is is in english. Why?
12:30<vincent___>paste.debian.net/124348
12:30<vincent___>but i canot get any answer with dig TXT @ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net ownercheck.my-univ.com.
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12:33<Maulkin>vincent___: That blank one looks odd. What comes up if you use "dig ns.my-univ.com @localhost"? In a pastebin please.
12:33<vincent___>no answer
12:34<Maulkin>vincent___: Well, what's the exact output?
12:34<vincent___>Maulkin: http://paste.debian.net/124349/
12:34<vincent___>btw thx for your help. Appreciate it a lot.
12:35<Maulkin>ok, so that's not no answer, that's SERVFAIL :)
12:35<vincent___>my bad :/
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12:36<Maulkin>Have a look in /var/log/named/general, especially for mentions of my-univ.com
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12:37<Maulkin>Or wherever your logs are configured in /etc/bind/named.conf
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12:38<vincent___>http://paste.debian.net/124350/ think i didn’t config my log ?
12:40<Novice201y>I'm able to see actual repositories to use, but I cannot add new. Why?
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12:43<Maulkin>vincent___: See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11153958/how-to-enable-named-bind-dns-full-logging on how to turn on logging. Could you try your zone file without line 12 too?
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12:50<vincent___>http://paste.debian.net/124353/ witheout line 12 and trying to create my log too
12:51<Maulkin>vincent___: Excellent! looks like that's working without line 12 then :)
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12:55<vincent___>Ok but the thing is when i try to add a domain name on kimsufi he tell me to create the txt ownercheck but it doesn’t reconize it
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12:58<Maulkin>vincent___: Well, the nameserver for my-univ.com seems to not be that box. It's using cloudflair.
12:58<Maulkin>*cloudflare
12:58<vincent___>yep but i wrote : ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net for my dns1 and sdns1.ovh.ca for dns2 and it says that they aren’t valide
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12:59<Maulkin>Where did you write it?
13:00<vincent___>on my domain provider page
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13:01<Maulkin>vincent___: Well, I can't connect to ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net dns. Perhaps a firewalling issue?
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13:03<vincent___>hum how could i know that :/ ?
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13:27<Novice201y>How can I set polish language in LibreOffice's menus?
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13:33<Guiomaar>holaa
13:33<Maulkin>!es-social
13:33<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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13:35<devil>Novice201y: you beed the polish lang packafe for libre
13:35<devil>need, even
13:35<devil>damn, typing while eating, sorry
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13:36<Novice201y>devil: Are language packages in repos?
13:37<devil>yes
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13:43<Novice201y>devil: Works. Thank You. But shouldn't LibreOffice be localised in user's language by default?
13:43<devil>no
13:43<sistem>i changed my from tr f to tr q, i changed keyboard type bu at log in, i cant log in, help me
13:44<sistem>i changed my keyboatd from tr f to tr q, i changed keyboard type bu at log in, i cant log in, help me
13:44<Novice201y>devil: Why?
13:44<devil>Novice201y: because even your system is one lang, you might prefer your office suite in another lang
13:45<Novice201y>devil: Understood.
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13:49<sistem>i changed my keyboard type from tr f to tr q,later i changed keyboard type at keyboard menu ,but at log in screen, i cant log in, help me
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13:52<devil>sistem: we can read you, no need to repeat
13:53<sistem>devil:sorry i tried to correct my sentence
13:53<devil>sistem: you need to be more elaborate on this. I have no clue what you are talking about
13:54<devil>tr f? tr q?
13:54<retrospectacus>sistem: it sounds like, that thing you did that caused that problem... don't do it
13:54<devil>retrospectacus: i agree on that
13:55<sistem>devil: turkish f keyboard and turkish q keyboard
13:55<devil>clueless
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13:56<devil>just undoe it for now
13:56<sistem>ok i try
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14:11<vincent___>So, i’ve trying a lot of thing and this dig -x 198.245.51.179 send me a fail serveur. I got : all my files and an,swer here
14:11<vincent___>http://paste.debian.net/124374/
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14:12<retrospectacus>vincent___: read your bind logs
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14:22<vincent___>Thx retro
14:22<vincent___>got it
14:22<Maulkin>vincent___: You need to remove that blank line you removed before
14:23<vincent___>sorry which one ? :/
14:23<Maulkin>vincent___: line 27 in that paste - it's not valid in a zone file
14:24<vincent___>do i put a my-univ.com. ?
14:26<Maulkin>vincent___: or "@"
14:27<vincent___>Perfect ! Thx. I got a last question, now i just put my serveur name and ns.kimsufi.com as DNS 1 and DNS 2 in my domain provider and it should work ?
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14:29<Maulkin>vincent___: Assuming that ns.kimsufi.com mirrors correctly from you, then yes.
14:30<Maulkin>vincent___: I can see your server responding properly, so that works. ns.kimsurfi.com won't give me a reply though
14:31<Maulkin>Well, it won't serve me for www.my-univ.com
14:31<vincent___>Ok ! Do i have to wait 48 hours for ns.kimsufi.com ? And i have just switch my dns for my-univ.com (thing i got to wait 48 hours)
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14:32<Maulkin>Well, do you also control ns.kimsufi.com?
14:32<Maulkin>You need to speak to whomever runs that to make sure that they'll set it up as a secondary.
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14:33<vincent___>Ok perfect thx a lot !
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15:35<Cosssmin>Can someone from here , help me with my os Mad Box Linux ? I don't know where to ask for my problem..
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15:37<jermanuel>oha
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15:38<devil>Cosssmin: nope, never even heard of it
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15:38<criss>Hola
15:38<criss>Hola
15:38<jermanuel>hola como estas
15:39<criss>Bn y tu vl hermanit
15:39<petn-randall>!es
15:39<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
15:39<jermanuel>bien y que haces
15:39<criss>ps nada aburrido
15:40<criss>y a que hora se para yoelinny
15:40<criss>y
15:40<Cosssmin>ohh ok sorry..:(
15:40<criss>gv
15:40<criss>g6yujtjhhy,
15:40<criss>o7juoptg6h
15:40<vincent___>Hi, do anyone could tell me why i can’t accees my DNS primary on my serv. ? Maulkin told me it could be a firewall problem but i don’t know how to check that
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15:40<petn-randall>Hi jermanuel, criss, to keep it easier with support, can you either speak in English, or join the channel #debian-es?
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15:41<jermanuel>hola como estas
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15:42<jermanuel>responde
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15:43<criss>Bn y tu q haces vl
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15:43<jermanuel>al lado tuyo
15:43<criss>aque hora e para mi hermanita yoelinnyvl
15:43<criss>ok
15:43<jermanuel>como ala 10
15:44<devil>english please
15:44<criss>alas 10 si son las 3
15:44<jermanuel>bueno alas 10
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15:46<criss>pero es q ya es talde y las 10 ya pasaron
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15:50<egzorcist>hi all
15:50<petn-randall>hi egzorcist
15:50<egzorcist>i have one question
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15:51<petn-randall>!ask
15:51<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:52<egzorcist>how can i add one driver to live installer? i need add iwlwifi-3945 to use wifi on my old notebook
15:52<Maulkin>vincent___: I think I was able to see it about an hour ago
15:52<vincent___>@Maulkin yep, i tried many thing but can’t find any solution
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15:53<petn-randall>egzorcist: I'm pretty sure the driver is already on there. Does it maybe not work because of missing firmware?
15:53<egzorcist>missing ucode
15:54<Maulkin>vincent___: Well, the domain is still pointing at the old DNS servers
15:54<vincent___>I was talking about ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net but i just tried it and i think it works :)
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15:55<petn-randall>egzorcist: Here is the network installer with non-free firmware: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.6.0/
15:55<Maulkin>vincent___: Yeah, I can see my-univ.com being served from there
15:55<petn-randall>egzorcist: You can use that to install Debian Wheezy on that notebook via wifi.
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15:57<egzorcist>petn-randall: i wanted to build complete debian with some additional apps like teamviewer9 what is`nt in oficcial repo
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18:23<coolman>hi
18:23<coolman>what a doing
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19:16<IRIXuser>hello - are there package building logs somewhere for all architectures?
19:16<IRIXuser>i'm interested specifically in kfreebsd-i386 and kfreebsd-amd64 - there are some issues with those I wish to start work on right away
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19:21<SynrG>IRIXuser: tracker.debian.org perhaps?
19:21<SynrG>which package(s)?
19:22<IRIXuser>SynrG: initially mate-applets
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19:22<SynrG>so, http://tracker.debian.org/mate-applets
19:22<SynrG>in "links" sidebar, see ports
19:23<peter1138>huh, mate is in debian? o_O
19:23<SynrG>not seeing those arches there though :p
19:23<SynrG>yes
19:23<SynrG>in jessie, at least
19:23<SynrG>oh, and wheezy-backports
19:23<SynrG>!mate
19:23<dpkg>The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2, available since Debian 8.0 "Jessie" (and also in wheezy-backports). To install, ask me about <install mate>. https://wiki.debian.org/Mate http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net.
19:24<IRIXuser>odd, kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} are not listed there
19:24<IRIXuser>I looked under the logs tab and it notes it as 'BD-Uninstallable'
19:24<SynrG>yeah. so i don't know what the status of those is
19:24<IRIXuser>my suspicion is that the package may have a dependency on something linux-specific, and will require adaptation to be able to handle not having that on kFreeBSD
19:24<peter1138>well i got used to gnome 3 eventually, so ... bit late :)
19:25<IRIXuser>would that situation produce this 'BD-Uninstallable' status?
19:26<SynrG>IRIXuser: mouseover. it explains in more detail
19:27<IRIXuser>aha, you are rght, SynrG
19:27<IRIXuser>it sounds like this is exactly the problem, an unfulfilled dependency. great, thank you for the pointer
19:30<SynrG>np
19:32<SynrG>peter1138: cinnamon is also in Jessie
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19:33<SynrG>after adapting to gnome 3, mostly, i tried cinnamon and like the compromises they've made
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21:14<sleser>is t here a way to make a dune hd firmware to run on linux machine ?
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21:30<cae>short network related question: the Linux kernel will answer pings (icmp echo-request) to an interface, even if the pinged IP address isn't online on this particular interface but on another on the same host
21:30<cae>what's the right term to it?
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21:31<cae>I know it's a known and wanted behavior, but what I don't know is the name of it or its documentation
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21:35<sney>a more networking-specific channel might be quicker to answer that
21:36<sney>I would tenatively suggest #netfilter on freenode, since they're pretty familiar with linux networking internals \
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21:38<kenyon>cae: maybe you refer to the host model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_model
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21:38<cae>kenyon: yes, exactly. Thank you
21:39<sney>neat!
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21:40<cae>sney: good suggestion, I'll join there (I couldn't thought of a more fitting channel so I just asked here)
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22:11<playpal007>first visit!
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22:15<ben_kamma>hi there, where can I meet Debian Jessie channel?
22:17<sney>#debian-next
22:17<ben_kamma>ty
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22:19<Tam5>I have a small business and am a Linux beginner. Is there such a thing as paid Linux support where I could ask questions like "how can I batch OCR alot of PDF files?, What programs do I need, why isnt the program working etc."...I need a Linux expert to go to and paid is fine
22:20<Tam5>I hear RedHat has something like that, but somehow I think they are geared toward larger businesses
22:25<sney>yes, there are lots of consulting businesses that do this, with free software the best way to make a living is to sell support/manpower
22:25<sney>there is a listing on debian.org somewhere of debian-specific businesses, but as usual, google is your friend
22:26<Tam5>Google is no one's friend, but thank you I will check out debian.org to see if I can find some paid support there.
22:27<sney>s/google/$search/
22:28<Tam5>What is that?
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22:31<sney>where search = whatever search engine doesn't start your paranoia engine, and you don't grossly misinterpret me essentially telling you to search for linux consultants
22:31<sney>if I say $search then the string immediately following the $ is a variable, in several languages and shells
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22:32<Tam5>There goes the paranoid label. I have a label for you - asshole
22:32*sney shrug
22:32<Tam5>I will not be needing your "help" ok?
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22:37<sney>don't mind this old irc regular - just sensitive to all the conspiracy theorists. assuming you don't now have me on ignore, the fact of the matter is, the internet at large is your consultant directory, and it is often beneficial to find a consultant in your local region so they can come and show you things/make adjustments etc that require physical access
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23:18<Airwave>With yum I can do "yum provides 'perl(Foo::Bar)'" to find the package that provides the Foo::Bar perl module. Is there any similar command for apt?
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23:20<somiaj>Airwave: with apt-cache search (or aptitude search is far more powerful) you can do search based on different things. I'm not sure debian stores the fino for perl like Foo::Bar in its database though so you may just have to search for foo and bar seperatly. 'apt-cache search perl foo bar'
23:21<sney>there's also apt-file
23:21<Airwave>somiaj: That did the trick. Not as good, but good enough.
23:22<Airwave>sney: Yeah, I used "apt-file search Foo/Bar.pm" earlier.
23:22<somiaj>Airwave: can you tell me the package, if you apt-cache show packagename you will see all the info debian stores on it's package which can be used to help with searches
23:24<Airwave>somiaj: The perl module I needed was DBD:Pg. "aptitude search 'perl DBD Pg'" turned up libdbd-pg-perl, which was the correct package.
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23:25<somiaj>Airwave: yea I don't see any reference to the string DBD:pg in the description or tag, but things that are similar. I guess the closest thing I see is the DBD-pg in the homepage link for the package
23:26<Airwave>The search did the job though. I could always use apt-file as a backup.
23:26<somiaj>oh wait, DBD::Pg is in the description tag, maybe searching for that directaly would work
23:26<somiaj>yea that seems to do the trick, it gets a hit from the description string.
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23:28<somiaj>Since perl modules are sometimes matained by different volenteers they may be slighty different in how they are described in the package info, but all of the stuff you see in 'apt-cache show packagename' is searchable, and with aptitude you have a very sophoiscated way to search packages by all that info and more
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23:29<somiaj>Airwave: http://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html
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23:31<Airwave>somiaj: "apt-cache search 'DBD::Pg'" gave me results. "aptitude search 'DBD::Pg'" didn't.
23:32<somiaj>Airwave: try aptitude search ~dDBD::Pg (searching the description tag wich is what ~d does)
23:32<somiaj>seems it doens't od that by defaul when apt-cache search does
23:32<Tam5>I stepped out. What conspiracy sney?
23:33<Airwave>somiaj: Yeah, that did the trick. Thanks!
23:33<somiaj>Airwave: but I usually use apt-cache search unless i need a reall sophosicated search that I want to deal with package versions, sources, origin, etc...
23:33<Tam5>You mean that google's entire business model is based on surveillance? Is that a conspiracy?
23:34<Tam5>Go to the :40 minute mark and watch for just 10 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNZrq2iK87k
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23:36<kenyon>somiaj: aptitude search only looks at the package name by default. http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html#tableSearchTermQuickGuide (newer documentation can be installed with the aptitude-doc-en package)
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