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00:22<chiche2>hola
00:23<chiche2>hay alguien que hable español????
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00:51<Diablo-D3>hey guys
00:51<Diablo-D3>is anyone having a problem getting apt-cacher-ng to work?
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01:54<mormia>any idea what this means during boot that repeats endlessly? "can't open '/sys/block/*/removable' : No such file or directory"
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01:54<mormia>i'm 90% sure it's a module issue but i don't know how to troubleshoot that
01:55<nathanvy>I'm running crunchbang and want to ditch their repos and move to just sid only. If I simply remove their repos from sources.list, change my target to unstable, and then do a dist-upgrade, what happens to the packages from the crunchbang repos? do they just get orphaned?
01:56<bdog7>nathanvy, you make a mess
01:56<nathanvy>k
01:56<sleser>will debian work on ps3 ?
01:58<nathanvy>bdog7, to clarify: crunchbang is just wheezy with an extra repository, so *most* of the system is just debian already
01:58<nathanvy>so...
01:58<nathanvy>will it completely wreck the system to just remove the one repo?
01:59<bdog7>your guess is as good as mine
01:59<nathanvy>k
02:00<bdog7>maybe ask in #crunchband, I run wheezy
02:01<nathanvy>it's the same thing pretty much, it's not like they've changed apt's behaviour
02:01<nathanvy>it's just wheezy with cosmetic stuff applied
02:01<nathanvy>figured here would be the place to ask
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02:28<helmut_>hi
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02:35<user__>Hi
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02:51<wind0>hi, if i'm running lxde, when i switch to a tty and startx, the dm starts up ok. if i switch to another tty, no prob... when i switch back to the tty i started x from manually however, i see text ... last lines are "resize called 1600 x 900" ... any ideas how i can return to the session?
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04:02<shlomi>Hello everybody, I need some help with installing Debian on my old MacBook. The MacBook is a 64 bit system with 32 bit EFI. Can I install Debian 64 bit version on it?
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04:07<shlomi>?
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04:08<enyc>shlomi: http://mennucc1.debian.net/macbook_linux_efi.html
04:08<enyc>shlomi: looks more like 'version of grub' needs to match ....
04:08<enyc>shlomi: grub-efi-ia32
04:10<shlomi>enyc: Thanks! I will read it.
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04:14<shlomi>enyc: For some reason, I can't even boot my Debian 64 bit installation CD. I get the next screen:
04:14<shlomi>1.
04:14<shlomi>2.
04:15<shlomi>Select CD-ROM Boot Type
04:15<shlomi>And then the machine gets stuck.
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04:16<peter1138>macs :S
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04:18<Diablo-D3>sure its just not loading?
04:20<shlomi>Yes, it gets stuck
04:20<shlomi>I was googling it, and it seems to have somethong to do with EFI
04:21<peter1138>Yeah, it's not clear if the AMD64 installer supports 32bit EFI.
04:23<Diablo-D3>heh
04:23*Diablo-D3 has a mbp sitting on his lap atm
04:23*Diablo-D3 ponders installing debian on it
04:23<Diablo-D3>...
04:23<Diablo-D3>nope.
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04:38<shlomi>The Deebian live CD works just fine (in 64 bit mode)
04:38<shlomi>Do you think I should go and install the 32 bit version?
04:39<enyc>shlomi: inconsistency detected
04:39<shlomi>?
04:40<enyc>shlomi: oh hangon install vs live cd
04:40<enyc>shlomi: humm no idea =)
04:40<shlomi>\:)
04:40<enyc>shlomi: how much ram has the macbook got?
04:40<shlomi>2
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04:40<enyc>2 .. gb
04:40<enyc>ok
04:40<shlomi>Yeah
04:40<enyc>then 32bit is probbably sensible *anyway* unless you have some specific reason for 64
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04:41<shlomi>What specific reasons can I have?
04:41<enyc>shlomi: possibly improved performance at some math / video encoding type things
04:41<shlomi>My processor is a 64 bit processor.
04:41<shlomi>Yeah, I need the improved performance.
04:41<enyc>shlomi: thoegh, 64bit code tends to use more ram etc. than 32bit mode deo to int increasing in size =)
04:41<enyc>shlomi: which can hamper porfarmance
04:41<enyc>shlomi: it depends on the exact workload
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04:42<shlomi>Well, I use my laptop for science, so I guess I am going to prefare the 64 bit version.
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04:42<enyc>shlomi: if you were runig big analysis etc. you'd probably want/have more ram anyway =)
04:43<shlomi>It is not about RAM.
04:43<shlomi>My processor usually works pretty hard:)
04:43<enyc>shlomi: use whatever you can get workinng, and WHATEVER you do be prepared to note/document anything complicated and always be in the position you can reinsta//re-setup without it being a ''hassle''
04:43<shlomi>It is frustrating. The trouble is that I deleted my OS X partition
04:44<shlomi>So now I can't even go after the link you gave me
04:44<enyc>shlomi: yes computers are like that
04:44<Diablo-D3>shlomi: erm dude
04:44<enyc>shlomi: how are you talking here now?
04:44<Diablo-D3>any modern mac can install osx on its own
04:44<shlomi>This is my work computer
04:44<Diablo-D3>downloads it off the internet or other sort of magic like that
04:45<shlomi>But the link you gave me requires rEFInd installation, which requires OS X
04:45<Diablo-D3>http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4718
04:46<Diablo-D3>shlomi: I find it weird mac requires a 32bit efi blob
04:47<Diablo-D3>btw
04:47<Diablo-D3>http://glandium.org/blog/?p=2830
04:47<Diablo-D3>seems to imply you're damned
04:47<peter1138>Wait, the 64 bit live CD works just fine on that 32 bit EFI?
04:47<Diablo-D3>peter1138: it _should_, I'd find it weird if it didnt
04:47<peter1138>(If so, then what's the problem? heh)
04:48<Diablo-D3>I dont have a boot usb handy atm to check
04:48<Diablo-D3>er install usb
04:48<shlomi>Yep, peter, it works just fine.
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04:52<Novice201y>Hello. How can I create a shortcut with a normal icon (without additional symbols) of program that alredy exists in Start menu? Under Debian 7.6 with Gnome.
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04:54<shlomi>Diablo-D3: I already tried this...:)
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04:56<peter1138>Can't you install from the live CD? Or does it not do that?
04:56<Ryccardo>[10:46:48] <Diablo-D3> shlomi: I find it weird mac requires a 32bit efi blob -- for computers before 2009 or so
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04:57<Diablo-D3>Ryccardo: you mean core 1s?
04:57<shlomi>My computer was manufactured in 2007.
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04:57<Ryccardo>Diablo-D3: likely (I bought a Sony core 2 duo in 2008)
04:57<shlomi>peter1138: Tried this also...
04:57<shlomi>peter1138: For some reason, it fails in the "Installing System" part.
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04:58<peter1138>Diablo-D3, they're core 2s, just 32 bit EFI. Apple reasons.
04:58<Diablo-D3>yeah I can see core 1's not doing it, they cant do 64 bit to begin with
04:58<Diablo-D3>heh
04:58<Diablo-D3>honestly
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04:58<Diablo-D3>I just got rid of my core 2 non-mac earlier this year
04:59<Diablo-D3>its just too old to keep
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04:59<peter1138>:S
04:59<Diablo-D3>c2d e8500 + 8gb ddr2-1066, ran debian
04:59<peter1138>Ran it perfectly well I bet.
04:59<Diablo-D3>upgraded it to i7-4771 + 32gb ddr3-2133
04:59<Diablo-D3>peter1138: damned straight.
04:59<peter1138>But yes, once you upgrade there's not a lot of point keeping the old stuff.
05:00<peter1138>(We have a Pentium II server still running in the office :S)
05:00<Diablo-D3>peter1138: I had a debian install that was like a decade old
05:00<Diablo-D3>finally scrapped it
05:01<Diablo-D3>swapped the i7-4771 to windows 8.1 pro, and did a brand new debian install on a 20th anniversery pentium + 16gb
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05:01<Diablo-D3>its a 3.x ghz dual core ht-less haswell, its about half as fast as my i7
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05:01<Diablo-D3>takes up the linux and kvm duty.
05:01<Ryccardo>my desktop was made in 2001, runs Debian better than XP (the last officially supported OS - which actually was fast pre-SP2)
05:02<Diablo-D3>and before this mbp I have now? a powerbook g4
05:02<Diablo-D3>ran debian
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05:03<Ryccardo>funnily enough, it has one of the few Intel graphics not well supported on Linux (i810)
05:03<Diablo-D3>yeah screw that
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05:04<Diablo-D3>anything before HD3000 should just be burned
05:05<Diablo-D3>the hardware sucks too badly to even be supported
05:05<Ryccardo>so I put in a Radeon 7000 which after firmware works fine with the open driver
05:05<Diablo-D3>yeah, r100s work fine
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05:05<Diablo-D3>the thing is though
05:05<Diablo-D3>after using linux as my primary desktop OS for like 15 years
05:05<Diablo-D3>and 15 years ago it was so far ahead of everyone else
05:06<Diablo-D3>but now?
05:06<Diablo-D3>screw it
05:06<Diablo-D3>osx works as a de, windows 8.1 pro as a de
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05:07<Diablo-D3>screw gnome, screw kde, screw xfce, screw X. especially screw X.
05:08*Diablo-D3 stabs the hell out of X.
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05:09<Diablo-D3>debian will always be my favorite linux, but screw linux on the desktop
05:11*peter1138 hugs Linux a his desktop.
05:11<peter1138>*as
05:11<Diablo-D3>I dunno, being locked out of all the native apps sucks
05:12<peter1138>native apps?
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05:12<Diablo-D3>evernote, todoist, 99% of steam
05:12<user__>What is your favorite operating system diablo?
05:12<peter1138>They're not native, they're for some foreign system.
05:12<Diablo-D3>user__: debian.
05:12<Diablo-D3>its a shame theres no good DE for it.
05:13<user__>cool
05:13<user__>de?
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05:13<peter1138>No good German for it :S
05:13<user__>desktop environment?
05:13<Diablo-D3>yes
05:13<Diablo-D3>no good german
05:13<user__>What do you prefer on your desktop?
05:13<Diablo-D3>you totally got it peter
05:14<Diablo-D3>user__: a highly customized xfce
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05:14<peter1138>I never found a good DE for Windows :(
05:14<peter1138>It forced me into one.
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05:15<Diablo-D3>I dunno, I actually like win 8.1 even with the broken shit
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05:15<user__>I still use windows, because I feel I have to. On VM, I use Linux mint debian
05:15<user__>for now
05:15<Diablo-D3>its not garishly ugly, and win 10 is fixing the broken shit
05:16<user__>What do you think about the philosophy of Free Software?
05:16<Diablo-D3>user__: I no longer care.
05:16<user__>why?
05:16<Diablo-D3>the FSF itself is dangerous to the foss movement, and Ive written by fair share of foss
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05:17<user__>Ok they are dangerous to the foss movement, who cares. The FSF has their own philosophy
05:17<Diablo-D3>you wrote Free Software in caps.
05:17<user__>I guess I am not seeing how the FSF is harmfull
05:18<user__>again, who cares
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05:18<user__>I guess I wrote it in caps because I respect them
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05:19<Diablo-D3>I respect actual software developers
05:20<user__>The programmers that write Free Software are no doubt some of the best in the world
05:20<Diablo-D3>Yes, and I'm the King of Mars.
05:22<user__>Everyone has a price. Attractive women will prostitute themselves if offered enough money, so will programmers.
05:23<user__>Given that, are prostitutes the most attractive women on earth? Probabaly not, same with programmers
05:24<peter1138>Bah, stupid memory leaks... libvirtd running at 421MB resident :S
05:25<Ryccardo>peter1138: there was a port of KDE 3 for Mac OS X IIRC ;)
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06:35<dratini0>Yesterday I have installed an unbound server. I want it to resolve .local addresses using mdns for boxes which can't use mdns (like androids and Windowses w/o Bonjour). Is it possible? (can't find any literature) I have tried adding a forward-zone with the mdns multicast addresses, but that doesn't work.
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06:36<dratini0>I can do dig -p 5353 box.local @224.0.0.251
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07:00<gnugr>dratini0: i'm not familiar with unbound server, but you should check your unbound.conf file again
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07:02<dratini0>I have. forward-zone looks ok, and have private-domain set. For reference, I will pastebin it.
07:03<dratini0>Here it is: http://paste.debian.net/124555/
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07:07<gnugr>dratini0: try to change "name: local." to "name: "local" " (still not sure what is correct) and try again
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07:09<dratini0>SERVFAIL again. One is absolute and the other is relative, but I think they should be the same.
07:11<dratini0>And if I do unbound-control lookup box.local, it mentions the address. It looks okay.
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07:18<dratini0>Here is some log, that seems relevant: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/61b2d010/
07:23<antonis>I love debian <3 :)
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07:26<Diablo-D3>goddamnit
07:26<Diablo-D3>I want to put my foot through apt-cacher-ng
07:27<devil>approx ftw
07:28<Diablo-D3>the gentoo profile for it produces files in the cache
07:28<Diablo-D3>the debian and ubuntu profiles? nope.
07:29<Diablo-D3>it serves the files but doesnt cache them anywhere
07:36<Diablo-D3>you know what
07:36<Diablo-D3>Im not going to ask questions anymore
07:36<Diablo-D3>I apt-get remove --purged it
07:36<Diablo-D3>reinstalled
07:36<Diablo-D3>it now works
07:38<Marillion>apt-get purge exists now, it doesn't need remove before
07:38<Diablo-D3>oh nice
07:39*Diablo-D3 asked for that one awhile back, finally got it :D
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07:58<graybis>Ok done
07:58<graybis>Do you have an option to change Theme automatically?
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08:45<blunk>So it's been a while.
08:45<blunk>People would ask how to settle the score.
08:45<blunk>We're all thinking that we're just striding along.
08:45<blunk>When everyone's being blinded there's still a game.
08:46<blunk>I'll wait for comments. =\===~
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08:51<Marillion>dpkg: tell blunk about offtopic
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08:51<devil>Marillion: even apt purge exists :)
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09:16<Marillion>devil: it is source package too, and use apt-get instead, it is NOT a own CLI
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09:17<devil>Marillion: I saves me from typing 'get'. that's nice enough
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09:19<Marillion>devil: you could create an aliase with 'ag' one character to keep save too
09:20<devil>Marillion: i do have a lot of aliases for dist-upgrades and stuff like thatr, not for the more basic things
09:21<devil>unfortunately apt does not honor bash-completion yet
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09:35<newbie|2>hello
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09:35<stain>hello
09:36<musca>hello stain, we are waiting for your debian support related questions.
09:36<stain>where i can get help on server config. my ext3 gets mounted in ro with now visible reason.
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09:36<stain>mistakes. sorry
09:38<stain>i can continue. no traffic here anyway.
09:38<musca>stain: usually you mount your filesystems with the option "errors=remount-ro"
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09:39<musca>so on filesystem errors the reaction is to switch to readonly mode
09:39<stain>but i get 'defaults' only in /etc/fstab... and i checked my disk for errors (fsck -fcvy /dev/sdaN). No errors. No any
09:40<stain>And if i 'mount -o remount /' then it gets remounted with no error messages in read-write
09:41<musca>well, perhaps some temporary error of the device occurs. Did you check the logs?
09:42<stain>since it is in ro, what kind of info can i find? I looked thru but couldn't see anything. Mayb there is something spec. to look for?
09:42<stain>and...
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09:44<stain>i can only show u dmesg... mean boot-messages
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09:44<stain>once i get:
09:44<stain>[ 18.988339] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
09:44<stain>[ 19.000355] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
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09:45<blunk>You're all dickweeds!
09:45<blunk>Dickweeds!
09:45<blunk>Dickweeds!
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09:45<stain>heelloo
09:46<musca>wb stain
09:46<garshasb>hello
09:46<stain>so... where was i...
09:46<stain>First boot:
09:46<stain>[ 18.988339] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
09:46<stain>[ 19.000355] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
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09:46<stain>Second boot (then see First boot):
09:46<stain>[ 18.686746] sd 4:1:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
09:46<stain>[ 18.917357] EXT3-fs: INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem.
09:46<stain>[ 18.931456] EXT3-fs: write access will be enabled during recovery.
09:46<stain>[ 19.520363] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
09:46-!-stain was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
09:47<blunk>As I said, dickweeds.
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09:48<Diablo-D3>So who wants to test my mirror
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09:48<musca>wb stain
09:48<Diablo-D3>http://mirrors.exelion.net/debian
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09:49<musca>stain: please use http://paste.debian.net for pasting text and don't offend the debhelper bot :)
09:49<stain>kk... sorry
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09:59<stain>i'm back. <musca> here's my paste http://paste.debian.net/hidden/369213c1
10:00<stain>the first time after fsck (which says no errors) i boot i get no errors. the second boot looks a bit differently
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10:03<stain>can some1 tell me how to fight RO mounting?
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10:03<stain>should i better switch to some other channel if there's one concerning the prob?
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10:08<peter1138>stain, is that your root filesystem?
10:08<stain>yep
10:08<peter1138>Ok, then it is normal that it is mounted ro initially.
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10:09<peter1138>So your problem is, why is it not being shutdown cleanly.
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10:10<stain>peter1138: anyway it mounts in ro even there were no errors (see First boot). am i mistaken?
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10:14<peter1138>stain, it's meant to.
10:14<peter1138>Then it's remounted rw, or at least should be.
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10:15<stain>peter1138: be more specific pls.. )) i mean it doesn't nomatter if i see that "EXT3-fs: INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem." or not during boot
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10:16<stain>it boots in ro. where to search? i read that http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/36797/readonly-on-boot-but-dont-see-why-how-to-investigate-and-fix
10:17<peter1138>stain, recovery should not be needed on a normal boot.
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10:17<stain>peter1138: it gets mounted in ro irrespectively
10:18<peter1138>Yes, as I said, it is normally that it is initially mounted ro.
10:18<stain>peter1138: then i don't get you. sry
10:18<peter1138>The system then remounts it rw for use.
10:18<peter1138>What don't you get?
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10:19<stain>so... why it doesn't remount it in rw? and where... at what stage?
10:19<stain>i can only remount it manually... and it works..
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10:23<peter1138>Hmm, I wonder if your fstab is broken.
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10:24<Novice201y>Hello. Is there any DVD ripper in Debian 7.6 repositories?
10:24<rudi_s>Novice201y: dvdbackup (command line) works fine for me.
10:24<rudi_s>You need libdvdcss though.
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10:26<Novice201y>rudi_s: I need something with GUI.
10:26<Novice201y>On Ubuntu I used AcidRip but I don't see this app in Debian repositories.
10:26<rudi_s>Novice201y: Learn the command line ;-) - sorry can't help there, never used it.
10:27<rudi_s>Novice201y: There is always handbrake though. GUI and works quite well. But it does more than just copying the DVD to disk.
10:27<Novice201y>rudi_s: I've got other things to do in life than learing command line :)
10:27<rudi_s>It transcodes it to other file formats.
10:27<rudi_s>Well, your loss.
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10:27<Novice201y>rudi_s: I think that using Debian with GUI is enough for me.
10:28<devil>commandline saves me lots of time
10:28<mtn>Novice201y: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=all&keywords=dvd+rip
10:28<stain>peter1138: nothing special in fstab "uuid / ext3 defaults 0 1"
10:28<rudi_s>Handbrake is most likely the simplest tool. The version in stable is a little old though.
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10:30<bhavesh>hello?
10:30<Novice201y>rudi_s: Thank You. I hope that this HandBrake will be enough for my needs.
10:30<Brigo>bhavesh, any problem?
10:31<rudi_s>Novice201y: Don't forget that you will need libdvdcss.
10:31<bhavesh>I just installed Debian for the first time in my life. Have been using Ubuntu since last 4 years. Whenever I login I get into GNOME fallback mode with Applications and Places menu at the top even when I selected GNOME at the time of login. It is Debian 7.6
10:31<rudi_s>!tell Novice201y about libdvdcss
10:31<bhavesh>How do I get the new GNOME UI?
10:32*stain afk. brb.
10:32<Brigo>bhavesh, i think you have a problem with your graphics, then gnome can load and boots failback.
10:32<Brigo>bhavesh, usually 3D support.
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10:33<bhavesh>Brigo, I did not install any proprietary nvidia driver yet. Does Debian also have an "Additional Drivers" tab like Ubuntu?
10:33<mtn>bhavesh: no, but it does have a good wiki that should help you ;)
10:34<Brigo>something like it. Debian has a non-free repository.
10:34<bhavesh>Okay, I'll have a look at it.
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10:34<bhavesh>thanks for guiding.
10:34<bhavesh>cya later.
10:34<bhavesh>:)
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10:42*stain imback
10:42<Novice201y>Which one project to develop GUIed DVD Ripper for Debian is most active?
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10:43<rudi_s>Novice201y: Handbrake is pretty active, but again, the latest version is not in Debian stable.
10:43<rudi_s>And such a question is in general very difficult to answer, who monitors progress on all rippers?
10:44<Novice201y>rudi_s: Ripping enthusiat? :)
10:44<rudi_s>Novice201y: Enthusiasts will most likely use just "the best" program ;-)
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10:44<stain>peter1138: have any idea&
10:44<stain>peter1138: have any idea?
10:44<mtn>Novice201y: "best": the one they like the best :P
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10:46<Novice201y>Any plans for HandBrake in Stable?
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10:46<Novice201y>And who is in charge of caring about time when HandBrake will be in Stable?
10:46<Sebastinas>There is a handbrake package in wheezy-backports.
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10:47<Novice201y>Sebastinas: I know, but it's, You know, backports.
10:47<mtn>snort
10:48<Sebastinas>Then you need to wait until jessie is released.
10:48<Sebastinas>New packages won't be added to the current stable release.
10:49<Novice201y>Sebastinas: Is there deadline for this event? :)
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10:53<mtn>Novice201y: no deadline. sometime in the next year
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12:06<Ryccardo>bought a debian cd made in 2001
12:06<peter1138>:)
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12:07<vrkalak>Ryccardo, does it still works?
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12:08<Ryccardo>vrkalak: what packages do you need (in jessie) for virtualbox? :)
12:09<vrkalak>Ryccardo, I was using Debian, at this time ... everything has changed
12:10<Ryccardo>I actually plan on using it on my 2001 computer, just to have quadruple boot
12:12<Ryccardo>brb rebooting for 3.16
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12:26<Ryccardo>"progeny linux systems"
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13:56<sym>hey there, got some problems setting up an openvpn client ... . My tap0 device isn't brought up right by networkmanager.
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13:58<ompaul>use tun on linux
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13:59<ompaul>sym: if you start with the FAQ on the site and build your complexity one line at a time after that you should be good
13:59<ompaul>FAQ on openvpn site that is
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14:00<ompaul>sym: if the client is windows - no idea
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14:00<ompaul>sym: did you see anything of what I said
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14:02<ompaul>I'll take that as a yes
14:03<sym__>sry disconected on irc. what did you say?
14:04<ompaul>use tun on linux you start with the FAQ on the site and build your complexity one line at a time after that you should be good, FAQ on openvpn site that is ; if the client is windows - no idea
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14:05<sym__>have to use tap because of bridged networking. it's also running. but i have to bring up my client device by hand (ifup tap0, dhclient tap0)
14:05<anthonystone>merhaba kımse varmı
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14:10<anthonystone>selam
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14:31<ompaul>sym__: so you have a bridged br0
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14:31<ompaul>sym__: and a tap0
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14:31<ompaul>even the tap can route over the bridge
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14:40<ompaul>sym__: you have any iptables runs running there?
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15:09<Akuw>hi
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15:16<sym__>ompaul: yes, on the server I've got tap bridged to my bridge. i've put in iptables rules for forwarding, input, output accept tap0
15:17<ompaul>sym__: I don't know your iptables setup I don't know your server / client config for openvpn
15:17<ompaul>so I can't guess
15:18<sym__>I can manual run 'dhclient tap0' to get an address and it works fine. that's what I don't understand
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15:19<sym__>ompaul: I'll load up my server and client conf to pastebin
15:20<ompaul>sym__: I don't have much time left this evening
15:20<ompaul>I'm going to also want your routing on both ends
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15:26<sym__>ompaul: http://pastebin.com/ThFgvVHa
15:26<sym__>omgpaul: server and client conf
15:27<sym__>omgpaul: routing tables stay the same on both. @ the moment I trigger "dhclient tap0' the right new route for 192.168.1.0 is added
15:28<sym__>ompaul: on the client
15:30<sym__>ompaul: can this have something to do with the network-manager?
15:30<ompaul>192.168.1.291 192.168.1.299
15:30<ompaul>WHAT???????
15:30<ompaul>sym__: please use addresses that at least make sense
15:32<sym__>ompaul: ? that's the ip-range for the client?
15:32<sym__>ompaul: the ip's before are used by the dhcp server itself
15:33<ompaul>sym__: those numbers are too high
15:33<ompaul>max is 255 and
15:33<ompaul>you never use 255
15:34<sym__>ompaul: ahh ...
15:34<Akuw>how i can avoid applications load automatically when boot?
15:35<Ryccardo>Akuw: define "applications"
15:35<Akuw>sorry
15:35<devil>Akuw: take them out of autostart?
15:35<Akuw>daemons, like mysql
15:35<Akuw>yes
15:35<Ryccardo>could be services launched by init or autostarting from X session
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15:36<Ryccardo>the tool to use is `update-rc.d`
15:36<Defcon_102KALI_LINUX>mu niggaz?
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15:36<Ryccardo>or you could manually delete them from /etc/rc*.d/S** where *s are numbers -- but they could be reverted automatically
15:37<sym__>ompaul: ok that's a silly mistake ... I understood. But thats not the problem in my config
15:37<ompaul>well what happens when you run it on the cli?
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15:37<ompaul>what error push your logging up to 9
15:37<ompaul>it generally gives a good idea
15:38<sym__>I'll pastebin the error logs
15:38<ompaul>sym__: before you do
15:38<ompaul>sym__: where are you brridged and why?
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15:38<ompaul>sym__: I'm going to have to split in a couple of minutes
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15:40<ompaul>sym__: also note you are not pushing any routing
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15:43<Akuw>ok
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15:46<selcuk>hello
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15:47<sym__>ompaul: http://pastebin.com/q9ss3qzi
15:47<sym__>ompaul: that the client's log
15:47<sym__>ompaul: tried with the route option also
15:47<ompaul>sym__: I am on irc but no longer available - I have to deal with my own work problems
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15:48<sym__>ompaul: put it out for testing only
15:49<ompaul>sym__: when you see this WARNING: No server certificate verification method has been enabled
15:49<ompaul>fix it
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15:49<Akuw>there is rc0.d, rc1.d ...
15:49<Akuw>what is used by default in debian?
15:50<ompaul>sym__: please read what I said about my work
15:50<ompaul>I have a job to do and I'm now dealing with it
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15:52<sym__>ompaul: thx for your help
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16:35<canaima>hola
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16:36<canaima_>hola
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16:38<MDTech-us_>hello
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16:39<MDTech-us_>I get "warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function âmallocâ [enabled by default]" errors when installing pysuck from source
16:40<babilen>so?
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16:40<MDTech-us_>is there a package I forgot to install?
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16:40<MDTech-us_>should I ignore these
16:40<devil>MDTech-us_: how are wevsupposed to know?
16:40<babilen>ask upstream!
16:40<amnesia_>hi.
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16:40<MDTech-us_>babilen, upstream where?
16:40<babilen>Where did you get the source code?
16:41<MDTech-us_>official site
16:41<babilen>So, that would be the upstream
16:41<MDTech-us_>http://pyyaml.org/wiki/PySyck
16:41<mgv>"NOTICE: PySyck is super out of date. Don't use it."
16:41<MDTech-us_>its not my choice
16:42<MDTech-us_>oftcdns requires this
16:43<MDTech-us_>http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7050798/incompatible-implicit-declaration-of-built-in-function-malloc says that it is because of no stdlib include
16:43<mgv>also, "warning: incompatible implicit declaration ..." is a warning, not an error
16:44<MDTech-us_>so I should just ignore
16:45<babilen>MDTech-us_: You might want to install build-essential, but then: You should think twice before using software that warns you itself not to use it.
16:45<MDTech-us_>babilen, did install it
16:46<babilen>well, i have no idea what upstream did there nor is it relly Debian problem
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16:47<MDTech-us_>I'll just say to myself that i'm a smart ass and edid the code
16:47<MDTech-us_>*edit
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16:47<MDTech-us_>I did program in C before
16:47<MDTech-us_>like WAAAAY before
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16:48*Ryccardo last time I edited a string in an Objective C program, it didn't compile anymore
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16:51<MDTech-us_>I fixed it!
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16:55<MDTech-us_>no I get another woarning
16:55<MDTech-us_>I imported string and it stopped working
16:55<MDTech-us_>lmme debug
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18:18<benzrf>hey
18:18<benzrf>i'm currently booted to a debian wheezy livecd
18:18<benzrf>my HD doesnt seem to be available...
18:18<benzrf>user@debian:~$ echo /dev/sd*
18:18<benzrf>/dev/sda /dev/sda1
18:19<benzrf>and sda1 seems to be the usb drive
18:19<mtn>benzrf: seems to be?
18:19<benzrf>user@debian:/mnt$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 benzrf-laptop/
18:19<benzrf>mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or benzrf-laptop/ busy
18:19<benzrf>mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /lib/live/mount/medium
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18:20<benzrf>ftr i made this liveusb using unetbootin
18:20<mtn>benzrf: do you see it listed in the file manager? perhaps it is already mounted
18:20<benzrf>nothing in the sidebar...
18:20<benzrf>and i'd expect a device file :\
18:21<mtn>benzrf: unetbootin is famous for causing issues with debian installers, so it may be at fault.
18:22<benzrf>oh
18:22<benzrf>i tried using ubuntu's usb creator thingy but it errored saying that gnu/linux isnt a valid version or something
18:22<benzrf>can i get away with a plain dd or something
18:22<benzrf>i don't know how usb 'burning' works
18:23<Ryccardo>dd works for all hybrid ISOs
18:23<Ryccardo>which make up most modern OSes' installers
18:23<benzrf>do i dd it to the device file for the drive itself or to a partition file
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18:24<Ryccardo>to the full drive
18:24<benzrf>ah cool
18:24<benzrf>ok, ttyl!
18:24<benzrf>thanks :-)
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20:15<inkbottle>Hi, I come here in hope there is more people than on the next channel; I've got that: wpa_supplicant failed to start
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20:22<Douglas>Hello everybody. The debian continues to be updated?
20:23<devil>Douglas: what do you mean?
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20:25<Douglas>Before changing the system, it seemed that the support was ending.
20:25<devil>I do not understand. before changing what system?
20:26<Douglas>The system was discontinued?
20:26<devil>what system?
20:27<Douglas>debian
20:27<devil>debian is alive. I have no idea what you are asking
20:27<MDTech-us_>it is
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20:29<sney>maybe he was still on lenny
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20:30<devil>that could explain it
20:30<devil>people should get at least a basic clue.
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22:25<oc>i got mplayer working in oldstable, while vlc and smplayer are both segfaulting no matter what i try. vlc works in command line mode tho. any ideas ?
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23:15<MarvelDigital>i'm on 7.6 using gtkpod 2.1.2 and it keeps crashing when i'm trying to import songs into my hard drive, any suggestions for a fix?
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