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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-10-06

---Logopened Mon Oct 06 00:00:41 2014
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00:47<nebular>ok I'm having a hell of a time with multimonitor. I'm using the proprietary nvidia drivers. I have 2 gpus and 3 screens. My primary is in the middle. When I fullscreen a 3d application it goes to the top left of my left screen instead of the middle (primary) screen I launched it from. How can I change this behaviour?
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01:23<yOweLL>hello
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02:08<cicle>192.168.1.29
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02:08<cicle>exit
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02:12<marrow>ls
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02:16<cicle>biel?
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02:53<helmut_>hi
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03:16<petrol>Hi, I've installed plymouth on my debian sid and im trying to change theme, but something is wrong: Theme seems to not be changed, but `sudo plymouth-set-default-theme joy -R` ended with 0 code. But insted of selectd them i can see three dots
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03:17<afsal>hi
03:17<afsal>i'm started to create an online tour for debian. But, I'm busy with my studies. so i can't complete the work
03:17<afsal>anybody like to take the work?
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03:20<jm_>petrol: from the topic -- testing/unstable: #debian-next
03:20<afsal>it is an online tour like Ubuntu tour. Langauges used: HTML, JS, CSS,...
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03:31<peter1138>Hrmm, vlc + vdpau = console spam & no picture :(
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03:35<afsal>i'm started to create an online tour for debian. But, I'm busy with my studies. so i can't complete the work
03:36<afsal>anybody like to take the work?
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03:37<jm_>no need to repeat, it would be better to send a mail to some mailing lists
03:38<afsal>ok... :)
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03:47<sidUser>I need help with steam on debian sid
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03:48<sidUser>most of the games - but not all games - have been crashing for a week (they used to work fine)
03:49<sidUser>I'm on amd64 with intel graphics and gnome 3.14
03:49<sidUser>anybody with the same issues?
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03:49<sidUser>steam log says: "Failed to open BO for returned DRI2 buffer (1920x1200, dri2 back buffer, named 20).
03:49<sidUser>This is likely a bug in the X Server that will lead to a crash soon."
03:50<sidUser>and indeed game crashes and I'm back to the steam client
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03:51<jm_>are you using sid?
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03:53<peter1138>08:47 < sidUser> I need help with steam on debian sid
03:53<peter1138>^ also his name :)
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04:05<jm_>in that case: testing/unstable: #debian-next
04:06<jm_>assuming they will support steam there (which I doubt, unless it's some known issue with sid)
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04:16<a1>hi everybody
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04:22<TomyWork>a legacy package has maintainer scripts with ". /usr/share/debconf/confmodule" at the top and "db_stop" at the bottom and nothing else from debconf. Is there any good reason to keep those in or can I remove them?
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04:28<Supaplex_>chrome is having a fit with shockwave flash crashing. if there's a better place to ask, you can tell me. :)
04:31<jm_>chrome has its own built-in flash plugin, no idea where support for that is
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05:01<cpcp800>My debian doesnt work...
05:01<cpcp800>i installed it to a partition on my hdd and the installation worked fine
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05:01<cpcp800>but when i booted debian(from grub) it just showed errors
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05:03<jm_>people might be able to help if they get to know what the errors are
05:03<cpcp800>this is the error: imgur.com/8KXQc05
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05:04<cpcp800>it was stuck on that for ~2 minutes
05:04<jm_>i see nothing problematic there short of nouveau one
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05:05<Ryccardo>apart from missing firmware (which normally doesn't prevent booting) that doesn't say anything useful, did you install kernel 3.16+?
05:05<j0n3>firmware-iwlwifi
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05:05<Jeannine21> You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/sexxxvideohot
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05:05<jm_>I would suggest 3.14 from bpo if you are using wheezy
05:05<cpcp800>i downloaded the tinypc version iso. then installed from that
05:06<jm_>netinst iso or what?
05:06<cpcp800>debian-7.6.0-amd64-netinst
05:06<cpcp800>,iso
05:07<jm_>so try booting with KMS disabled and install a newer kernel
05:07<jm_>https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting#Disabling_KMS
05:07<jm_>!bpo kernel
05:07<dpkg>Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
05:07<cpcp800>ok will try
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05:16<cpcp800_>!bpo kernel
05:17<dpkg>Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
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05:49<disposable>i have a debian jessie nfs server and debian jessie nfs client. on the server, i have in /etc/exports "/srv/test 192.168.100.0/24(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)" and default values in /etc/default/nfs-common. on client, i'm mounting it with these options "_netdev,vers=3,rw,users,auto,exec,suid,dev". however, it always mounts it with noexec,nosuid,nodev. remounting with -o exec,suid,dev doesn't do anyting either. what else should i do/c
05:50<Supaplex_>sorry if I missed it before. chrome is having a fit with shockwave flash crashing. if there's a better place to ask, you can tell me. :)
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05:57<jm_>Supaplex_: chrome comes with its own bundled flash player, no idea where support for either is
05:57<jm_>disposable: start by askin in #debian-next as the topic says
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05:58<disposable>jm_: it's the same with wheezy.
06:00<disposable>jm_: nevermind, i'm now sure it's a bug. exec gets ignored if fstab line contains "user" or "users". i'll have a look if it's been reported in debian and if not. i'll file it. i found this bug in red hat's bugzilla.
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06:07<disposable>just for the record, it's bug 657497 - and nfs-common in wheezy introduced it.
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06:08<jm_>disposable: yeah man mount documents that
06:08<cpcp800>https://i.imgur.com/9SjwSDc.jpg
06:09<cpcp800>Does this make sense to people?
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06:09<jm_>cpcp800: which card is this?
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06:10<cpcp800>nvidia gtx m 780
06:11<jm_>maybe try using nvidia driver then
06:11<cpcp800>isnt nouveau for nvidia?
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06:12<disposable>jm_: no, it does not. it specifically says, that after user/users, you can put exec to revert that behaviour. the bug is that it ignores the exec flag.
06:12<jm_>disposable: I stand corrected then
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06:14<cpcp800>jm_: what druver should i use?
06:14<disposable>jm_: for you are a wise man
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06:17<jm_>cpcp800: nvidia
06:17<jm_>cpcp800: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
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06:21<peter1138>Hmm, I don't have exec or noexec, it just works. Using NFS4 though
06:21<cpcp800>jm_: how do i install this if i cant boot debian? i have a working windows installation on another partition
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06:23<peter1138>cpcp800, in your screen shot, does it hang there?
06:23<cpcp800>Yes
06:23<peter1138>:S
06:23<cpcp800>https://i.imgur.com/93jUSke.jpg
06:24<cpcp800>This is on normal boot
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06:24<peter1138>What makes the other screenshot not normal?
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06:25<cpcp800>peter1138: booting in recovery
06:27<jm_>cpcp800: did you try booting with nomodeset?
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06:29<cpcp800>jm_: no, how should i do that. i tried doing echo blacklist nouvea> /etc/something.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf. in grub, but it didnt recognize the command
06:31<jm_>cpcp800: in grub edit the kernel command line and insert nomodeset at the end
06:31<jm_>then boot it (I think corresponding keys are e and ctrl-x, but don't quote me onthat, they are listed at the bottom)
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06:34<cpcp800>jm_: i added it after initrd /boot/
06:34<jm_>cpcp800: no, on the linux line, not on the initrd line
06:34<cpcp800>it says unknown command 'nomodeset' then boots
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06:35<cpcp800>jm_: linux /boot/vmlinux... after that?
06:37<cpcp800>jm_: ok its booted in debian console
06:37<cpcp800>thank you:)
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06:37<jm_>cpcp800: yes
06:38<jm_>no problem
06:38<cpcp800>jm_: should i install the nvidia driver now?
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06:39<jm_>cpcp800: yup
06:40<jm_>cpcp800: you can find newer version in bpo
06:40<madduck>Does anyone know of a tool I can use to display signal level for my built-in WWAN card?
06:40<madduck>(GSM/3G)
06:41<cpcp800>jm_: how do you connect to the internet? iwconfig doesn't work.
06:42<jm_>cpcp800: for iwconfig to work you probably need firmware based on your earlier screen shots
06:42<jm_>!tell cpcp800 -about iwlwifi
06:42<jm_>so install it from USB or somesuch
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07:00<AMD1212>Hello, i have a really weird problem on testing and hope to find some tips to debug that. I have two testing systems with quasselclient installed. On the first system quassel is working perfectly but on the other i get the error message: "quasselclient: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgsttag-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: _gst:date:time_type".
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07:01<AMD1212>I reinstalled libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0.0 and checked the md5sum of the library on both systems....the md5 matches
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07:02<AMD1212>Surprisingly google found nothing. Any ideas what to check next?
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07:04<AMD1212>I get the same error message when trying to activate the fancy plugin for claws-mail, so i don't think its a problem of quassel
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07:05<blues-man>hi carnil, I run the shellshocker bash vulnerabilities test on several up to date Debian Wheezy machines with bash 4.2.37(1)-release package version 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3 and it still shows: CVE-2014-6277 (segfault): VULNERABLE
07:05<blues-man>hi carnil, I run the shellshocker bash vulnerabilities test on several up to date Debian Wheezy machines with bash 4.2.37(1)-release package version 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3 and it still shows: CVE-2014-6277 (segfault): VULNERABLE
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07:06<blues-man>sorry for duplication, it is an xchat bug
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07:08<blues-man>according to https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6277 it should be fixed instead, I wonder why it results still vulnerable on wheezy
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07:13<jm_>AMD1212: for testing ask in #debian-next
07:14<jm_>AMD1212: and you can use loader debugging to find out the difference on both systems
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07:16<AMD1212>ok, thanks jm
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07:17<jm_>no problem
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07:38<cpcp800>I tried installing iwlwifi from a .deb(wheezy, stable) but i cant get iwconfig to work
07:38<cpcp800>i tried modprobe -r
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07:40<jm_>cpcp800: try rebuilding your initramfs too
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07:41<jm_>you can see if the driver still says it can't find the firmware if you use the 'dmesg' command
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07:42<cpcp800>just dmesg gives me a lot of data, any way to sort it?
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07:43<jm_>you can use grep: dmesg | grep iwl
07:43<jm_>assuming driver name is part of the message
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07:46<jm_>also run update-initramfs -u
07:46<cpcp800>it says it has loaded firmware version 18.168
07:46<cpcp800>why update initramfs?
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07:48<jm_>ok so updating initramfs is probably not needed then
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07:48<jm_>check if you have device for it - ls /sys/class/net
07:50<cpcp800>eth0 lo wlan0
07:50<jm_>so you have it then, try https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#Configure_Interface
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07:54<cpcp800>Is it normal to not be able to sudo
07:55<cpcp800>it says command not found
07:56<jm_>sudo is not installed by default
07:57<cpcp800>jm_: how do you get admin permission without sudo?
07:57<jm_>cpcp800: su
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07:57<jm_>"su -"
07:58<cpcp800>Su - /etc/network/interfaces
07:58<cpcp800>Like that^
07:59<jm_>no, just "su -", you'll get a shell where you can run commands you want as root
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08:00<cpcp800>Su - runs but /etc/network/interfaces says permission denied
08:01<peter1138>What are you trying to do with /etc/network/interfaces?
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08:02<cpcp800>Configure wifi interface
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08:02<jm_>you need to edit it, it's a text file
08:02<cpcp800>now i feel dumb :(
08:03<petn-randall>cpcp800: You probably want to use network-manager, or wicd, unless you have a static setup that you're using. E.g. a headless machine in a static location.
08:04<cpcp800>petn-randall: do they run without a gui?
08:04<jm_>yeah the page lists those so I suspect manual method was selected for a reason
08:05<petn-randall>cpcp800: n-m has a CLI, yes. /etc/network/interfaces will work fine with wifi, but it won't reconnect if you loose signal, and is not that flexible in changing wifi APs.
08:06<cpcp800>petn-randall: ok i will try that
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08:18<avtobiff>i have tried looking at how to setup postfix to authenticate with a ms exchange server. the exchange server accepts AUTH GSSAPI NTLM, sadly not smtp basic auth (LOGIN). i have tried to find a way to authenticate with the exchange server but haven't found anything. I have earlier setup it to work with a server that accepts smtp basic auth (LOGIN) and thought it should be similar, but that postfix would just use libntlm.
08:18<avtobiff>tl;dr: how do i setup postfix to authenticate with a ms echange server with NTLM ?
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08:28<graybis>I just installed evolution email client and it removed plenty of my programs.
08:28<graybis>How can I restore them back?
08:28<graybis>I am on Debian 7.0
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08:29<abrotman>install them again
08:30<graybis>they are like 100 programs lol
08:30<graybis>Each and every one of them really?:/
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08:31<graybis>IT even removed the center that I install and remove software. What is the package name of it?
08:31<abrotman>software-center ?
08:32<abrotman>graybis: it sounds like you might be mixing versions of Debian
08:32<graybis>abrotman: Look by your self how many things it removed : aptitude install evolution
08:33<abrotman>graybis: It wouldn't cause a problem on my system.
08:34<graybis>Why it required to remove all this software?
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08:34<graybis>abrotman: I am on debian for like 1 month now.
08:35<abrotman>graybis: because you've done something wrong .. pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
08:35<graybis>ok
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08:36<graybis>abrotman: http://pastebin.com/Njv5hRpc
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08:37<abrotman>graybis: are you using gnome or kde?
08:37<abrotman>your sources seem "fine"
08:37<graybis>hnome
08:37<graybis>gnome
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08:38<abrotman>graybis: aptitude install gnome
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08:38<graybis>and then Y?
08:38<graybis>Ok
08:38<graybis>What is this supposed to do?
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08:40<graybis>What email client are you using?
08:41<graybis>I am using Icedove, but for some reason. I updated the password of my email and it does not configure on the email client.
08:42<n4mu>Hello. I have a weird issue: I get 404 errors on apt-get update (deb wheezy/amd64). The weird part is that from other machines I don't have the issue. I tested in ipv4/6, and still. The IPs resolved/shown are correct, I can browse the security server with links properly. The difference between both machines is ISPs. If anyone has hint, I'll gladly take it.
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08:43<n4mu>(I forgot to mention, this only occurs for security.debian.org, the other lines work fine)
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08:54<n4mu>On the borked server I set it up to use a security mirror I set up elsewhere, it works. Maybe this is an ISP issue (OVH), though via a browser security.debian.org is accessible.
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08:57<planetmaker>n4mu, did you check with the hetzner page whether they have some issues in the DC where your server is hosted?
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08:59<n4mu>The server with issues is not at Hetzner, it's OVH. And I do think they may be having issues as I just hit some 404s using http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/
09:00<n4mu>For now I replaced everything using an apt-proxy I have on elsewhere.
09:01<peter1138>Hmm, working for me.
09:01<peter1138>Might depend one what needs updating though.
09:02<n4mu>peter1138: OVH VM ?
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09:02<peter1138>Yeah, FR
09:02<peter1138>Oh... sutpid
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09:02<peter1138>It was security updates, they come direct.
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09:03<Guest688>oho
09:03<peter1138>(Not through OVH's mirror)
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09:03<n4mu>Weird indeed. As I said, I could browse using links, but apt-get was getting 404. First for security.debian.org, now also for http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/.
09:03<peter1138>Just installed something from the mirror though, mind you.
09:03<peter1138>Weird.
09:03<n4mu>This could be ISP or PEBKAC at this point.
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09:04<n4mu>Strange thing is it works fine using my own mirror..
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09:44<cpcp800>Im trying to update all packages(used a tinycd image) however, it asks me for a cdrom when running aptitude update
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09:47<AMD1212>cpcp800: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment all deb cdrom lines, after that run aptitude update to try again
09:50<cpcp800>AMD1212: failed to fetch http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/Release
09:50<abrotman>cpcp800: pastebin your sources.list
09:52<cpcp800>https://i.imgur.com/hhEsq15.jpg
09:52<abrotman>paste.debian.net ?
09:53<abrotman>dpkg: tell cpcp800 about wheezy sources.list
09:53<cpcp800>I dont have a gui so i have to use my phone :/
09:53<abrotman>dpkg: tell cpcp800 about pastewithoutx
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09:56<cpcp800>How do i install w3m
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09:57<centrx>apt-get install w3m
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09:57<cpcp800>But i cant get apt to work,
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09:59<centrx>cpcp800, Did you get the message from the dpkg bot about what belongs in your sources.list ?
09:59<cpcp800>Yes im trying that now.
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10:05<cpcp800>It worked, i think i typed a mirror wrong or something.
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10:48<cpcp800>does debian come with a desktop environment?
10:50<vrkalak>yes
10:51<vrkalak>xfce - by default
10:51<cpcp800>How do you start it? startx doesnt work.
10:51<cpcp800>startx is not found
10:51<vrkalak>stable version
10:52<cpcp800>Stable version what?
10:52<vrkalak>the main .iso doesn't have a "Live' feature ... you must install
10:52<AMD1212>do you have installed the desktop environment? debian is also able to install just a base system without any graphical system.....what have you choosen during the installer
10:53<vrkalak>there is a debian-live ISO
10:53<cpcp800>i have installed it with the tinycd image, curently its just commandline with no gui
10:54<xiqy>gnome is the default DE.
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10:55<cpcp800>i didnt see a graphical
10:55<cpcp800>Graphical interface setting in the installer
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10:56<AMD1212>IMHO there is no desktop environment included in the tiny cd, you have to install it now. Install task-xfce-deskop for the wheezy default graphical environment
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10:57<AMD1212>generaly it would be better to install using the netinstall image
10:57<centrx>cpcp800, apt-get install task-gnome-desktop to install the default desktop environment
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10:59<cpcp800>Im installing xfce now
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12:12<stain>peter1138: r u there? i've got a solution. wanna know?
12:12<stain>hello, btw. sry :)
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12:52<wheybags>jesus this chan is huge
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13:02<Celelibi>Since some recent update I have some weird behavior.
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13:03<Celelibi>Like the scrolllock led that turn on and off when I press 'r' and 'é'.
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13:03<Celelibi>And the "halt" command that doesn't do anything until I press enter again.
13:04<netan>hi all, Then I run "netstat -rn" I get this result: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3ac314bde31b8bb1a325
13:04<netan>I don't understand how to read this result, what is 10.251.3.0 for example ?
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13:06<Celelibi>It's in the headers you forgot to copy/paste.
13:06<netan>is somebody have access to my machine ?
13:06<Celelibi>Kernel IP routing table
13:06<Celelibi>Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
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13:07<Celelibi>You probably more need a networking course than debian help.
13:07<netan>Celelibi, do you talk to me ?
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13:08<netan>Celelibi, so you say I should ask somewhere else ? where ?
13:08<Celelibi>Google probably know about network routing.
13:09<netan>Celelibi, you mean I should Google something?
13:09<blast007>netan: why do you think someone has access to your computer?
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13:10<netan>I don't know the IP 10.251.3.0 , and can't find any information about that IP
13:11<blast007>do you have a network interface with a 10.x.x.x address? check 'ip a'
13:13<Celelibi>BTW, netan, if you don't already know how to use netstat tool, I think it's better to use ip which is supposed to be a unified tool to all the network stuff.
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13:15<netan>blast007, "ip a" gives this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b08041f4d22fd127665d
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13:15<netan>what do " inet 10.251.3.155/24 brd 10.251.3.255 scope global tun0" mean ?
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13:19<Zaba>netan, you are connected to a VPN over tun0, it uses the IP range 10.251.3.0/24 and your IP in it is 10.251.3.155
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13:21<netan>Zaba, ok, that make sense, how do I know that it is my VPN provider that have the IP and nobody else ?
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13:21<netan>can I run some kind of "whois" on this adress ?
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13:22<netan>Zaba, that was maybe a stupid question but i have problems to wrap my head around how all this stuff work
13:23<Zaba>netan, 10.0.0.0/8 is an IP range for private use, just like 192.168.0.0/16
13:23<Zaba>it's not routed on the internet
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13:24<edoardo>hello
13:24<edoardo>i'm trying to install a dkms module but dkms seems not to find the kernel source
13:24<edoardo>i have the package kernel-source installed, though
13:25<netan>Zaba, ah, strange that I did not get that info google the IP. then I google 169.254.0.0 I found this: http://packetlife.net/blog/2008/sep/24/169-254-0-0-addresses-explained/
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13:27<netan>Zaba, sorry I don't follow you 10.251.3.0 is not in the range 10.0.0.0/8 ?
13:27<Zaba>of course it is
13:27<netan>Zaba, it is ?
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13:28<Zaba>10.0.0.0/8 ranges from 10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255
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13:29<netan>Zaba, I see, can you recommend some (easy to read) docs about this ?
13:30<Zaba>not off the top of my head, sorry
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13:30<netan>Zaba, np, thanks for the help
13:31<netan>(I think I found a good article)
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14:00<joseph-soares>Hi there, is there any way to mount an printer, for example using mount command, as well as we do with flash drivers and hard disks?
14:01<joseph-soares>a printer*
14:01<valdyn>joseph-soares: how would that make sense?
14:01<peter1138>That would depend on the printer.
14:01<joseph-soares>valdyn, becouse I had a problem using two equals printers
14:01<valdyn>joseph-soares: non sequitur
14:02<joseph-soares>I have two equals thermal printers
14:02<Kjetil>equal*
14:02<peter1138>Generally printers require sending a specially formatted data stream.
14:02<joseph-soares>yks
14:02<joseph-soares>tks
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14:03<joseph-soares>peter1138, I use lpr command to send strings to a printer using Generic-Text
14:07<joseph-soares>so, is there how to?
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14:13<uso>joseph-soares: You just have to configure your two printers with different names and then tell lpr which printer to send the text to (with option -P). How to configure your printers depends on the printing system you use. The default is CUPS and a good start to read may be https://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting.
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14:16<joseph-soares>uso, whe I plug both printers, system recognizes only the first
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14:18<uso>joseph-soares: you may have to configure that manually, maybe the automatism does not expect two printers of the same type
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14:19<joseph-soares>uso, usb://BEMATECH/MP-2500TH is the first printer and the seconde has the same address
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14:25<uso>joseph-soares: yes, because it has the same USB id, you probably have to add udev entries for the printers (or at least for one of them), maybe distinguish them by their serial number or some other attribute which differs between them, but I never had that problem myself so I don't know what attributes are available in udev rules
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14:31<pi__>hi everybody
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14:35<Maulkin>!ask
14:35<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
14:35<uso>joseph-soares: maybe that helps: http://www.discoded.com/2012/03/28/updated-cups-1-4-x-and-multiple-identical-printers/, there are also other postings how to solve your situation when you search for CUPS and multiple identical printers, there seems to be no need for manual udev entries so ignore what I told you about udev above ;)
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15:07<qualunque>test
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15:15<DNS>is there a chance that tcl8.6 will be backported to wheezy?
15:15<DNS>there are issues with 8.5 and eggdrop related to utf-8 displaying
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17:50<alumno_>brian navarro
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18:03<xiph>Hi. I have seen some Debian GNU/Linux systems where it is possible to mount nfs file systems as a user on /net automatically. I want to use this but can't find what it is called or how to do it.
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18:06<oldlaptop>xiph: could you be thinking of the fstab option 'user'?
18:06<oldlaptop>probably 'noauto' as well
18:07<oldlaptop>(that would allow users to do 'mount /net' or similar)
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18:07<xiph>oldlaptop: could be, will check it out.
18:07<kenyon>!autofs
18:07<dpkg>autofs is a kernel-based automounter that mounts remote shares when directories are accessed. Some regard it as a hackish p.o.s. and the 5 minute default timeout for unmounting is unlikely to be what you want. http://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127 . For hotplugging support for USB storage, ask me about <automount>.
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18:08<xiph>kenyon: Ah, that's it I think. Thanks.
18:09<xiph>Yep, that's it. Turns out searching Google for /net is not that useful :/
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18:48<sleser>file on usb flash wont delete
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18:49<kenyon>sleser: why not
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18:50<sleser>am i doing it write . rm -r file ?
18:50<sleser>rite i mean
18:50<mtn>or right, even
18:50<sleser>dosnt wants to work
18:50<kenyon>what does it say
18:50<sleser>1 4308
18:51<sleser>command not found
18:51<root_82>from gui? do a "pwd"
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18:51<kenyon>your rm command is not found?
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18:52<kenyon>seriously messed up system, or messed up PATH environment variable
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18:52<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/124916/
18:52<root_82>ah
18:52<kenyon>heh
18:52<kenyon>Roto: command not found
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18:53<devil>heh
18:53<devil>sleser: use bash completion
18:53<root_82>put '/if filename has blankspace, put it like this file.mp3'
18:53<kenyon>/TrollPhace is already gone
18:53<root_82>with the ' '
18:54<kenyon>also, /TrollPhace is not on that USB drive. / is the root of the filesystem
18:54<antoniodmora>you need to scape special caracter like "&" by appending a back slash (\)
18:54<sleser>i cant rename the file also
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18:54<kenyon>!tab completion
18:54<dpkg>Hit <tab> to complete the nick (on IRC), the program- or filename (in bash) or various program parameters (in bash with tab-completion scripts enabled).
18:55<root_82>sleser, run "cd /media/USB20FD/ && ls" and tell me the file you want to delete and I'll guide you through :)
18:56<kenyon>the & character puts the rm command into the background
18:56<antoniodmora>rm -r touch TrollPhace\ \&\ Roto\ -\ Take\ It\ \[Forthcoming\ I.AM.Audio]-74508307.mp3
18:56<root_82>or "rm '/TrollPhace & Roto - Take It [Forthcoming I.AM.Audio]-74508307.mp3'
18:56<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/124917/
18:57<antoniodmora>that will do the trick, but you have to be in the same directory where the file is
18:57<root_82>sleser: "rm ./TrollPhace & Roto - Take It [Forthcoming I.AM.Audio]-74508307.mp3"
18:57<kenyon>that won't work either
18:58<sleser>didnt work
18:58<root_82>ops, sorry. "rm ./Tro<TAB>"
18:58<sleser>it wont delte from kde also
18:58<root_82>where <TAB> is you press TAB :)
18:58<antoniodmora>sleser: try this: "rm -r TrollPhace\ \&\ Roto\ -\ Take\ It\ \[Forthcoming\ I.AM.Audio]-74508307.mp3"
18:58<kenyon>no need for -r either when it's just a file
18:59<antoniodmora>and you have to be in the same directory the file is sleser
18:59<sleser>says read only file system . and canot remoove
18:59<kenyon>and missing a \ on ]
18:59<sleser>i am
18:59<kenyon>so filesystem is read only
18:59<sleser>i pu te the file in now
18:59<sleser>file went inside
18:59<antoniodmora>sleser: try this: "rm -r TrollPhace\ \&\ Roto\ -\ Take\ It\ \[Forthcoming\ I.AM.Audio\]-74508307.mp3" kenyon you are right
18:59<sleser>but now it wont come off
18:59<kenyon>sigh
19:00<kenyon>why did you mount the filesystem read only?
19:00<root_82>sleser: "rm -f '/media/USB20FD/TrollPhace & Roto - Take It [Forthcoming I.AM.Audio]-74508307.mp3' " <-- copy and paste everything INSIDE the " ", including the ''
19:00<petn-randall>root_82: How will the -f change anything on a read-only filesystem?
19:00<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/124919/
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19:01<root_82>If it's a read-only system, how will you be able to delete it in the first place? xD run a "ls -lsa" :)
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19:02<sleser>who said its read only just 5 min ago i pute a file inside it
19:02<root_82>ok, it's a read-only. chmod?
19:02<kenyon>no
19:02<root_82>sleser: "rm: cannot remove `TrollPhace & Roto - Take It [Forthcoming I.AM.Audio]-74508307.mp3': READ-ONLY FILE SYSTEM" <----
19:02<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/124920/
19:02<sleser>should i trow the stick out ?
19:03<kenyon>you just need to mount it not read only
19:03*antoniodmora scratches his head
19:03<sleser>how
19:04*devil throws pmount into the channel
19:04<root_82>sleser: "chmod 666 TrollPhace & Roto - Take It [Forthcoming I.AM.Audio]-74508307.mp3 && rm TrollPhace & Roto - Take It [Forthcoming I.AM.Audio]-74508307.mp3"
19:04<kenyon>wow. no.
19:04<petn-randall>root_82: Please only give advice if you actually know the answer to the problem.
19:05<root_82>ok, if you don't want my help I'll leave you to it. Let me know if you need any help ^^
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19:06<petn-randall>sleser: Figure out which block device is mounted on /media/USB20FD by running 'mount'. Once you've done that, run 'mount -o remount,rw /dev/your_device'. After that you should be able to delete the file via tab completion.
19:06<sleser>pmount says it must be in dev
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19:06<devil>pmount can be used as user like: pmount /dev/foo
19:07<devil>fdisk -l shows you what foo is
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19:08<sleser> fdisk -l comand not found
19:08<devil>*sigh*
19:08<devil>I am out
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19:11<sleser>petn-randall your advice worked
19:11<sleser>do i have to do this all t he time with diferent sticks ?
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19:17<sleser>now i wiped the stuf i wanted to wipe off the stick . now i wana pute something new on this stick , i cant paste a file in there it wont let me
19:18<petn-randall>sleser: What do you mean with "paste"?
19:18<sleser>like trying to copy another mp3 from linux to stick
19:18<petn-randall>sleser: You can use a normal file manager if you install a desktop environment.
19:18<sleser>i have desktop invirment
19:19<sleser>i cant paste . paste option is not highlit to push on
19:20<kenyon>why do you think "paste" should be an option?
19:21<sleser>there another problem bsides .
19:21<sleser>also another problem , i see the usb stick on dolphin and not in /media
19:21<sleser>b4 i saw it in media as well
19:21<sleser>oh yeh i see it now
19:22<sleser>thats how i copy pasted files on usb before
19:22<sleser>copy paste wont work ?
19:23<sleser>now i can copy paste
19:24<sleser>i think the card has malfunction
19:25<sleser>the flash stick i mean . its doing stupid things
19:25<sleser>like sometimes wants to work and sometimes dont
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19:27<sleser>can i ask how come the fdisk -l comand wasnt recodnised by the terminal ?
19:28<devil>sleser: it needs root
19:28<sleser>got you ok
19:29<sleser>ok thanks guys . bbl
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20:33<Akuw>i installed my printer, debian detect it ok, but after one day now is not printer
20:33<Akuw>i delete and add sucefully again, but can't print
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20:50<mdik>Akuw: maybe it's idle?
20:50<mdik>Akuw: in browser go to localhost:631 and try to restart the printer there
20:51<Akuw>i did it
20:53<mdik>Akuw: then i don't know :-(
20:56<Akuw>is Idle
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20:56<Akuw>i reinstalled but is Idle
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21:07<Akuw>W [06/Oct/2014:20:36:20 -04-30] failed to CreateProfile: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id 'HP_LaserJet_P1005_USB_BB03SJ8_HPLIP-Gray..' already exists
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22:36<twb>You know how apt-cache dotty can generate dependency graphs for packages -- but there are so many, the graph is unusable?
22:37<twb>Has anyone worked out a way to do that for just installed packages?
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22:45<themill>twb: dotty accepts a list of packages on the command line. There's also debtree that might be of use
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22:45<twb>I guess what I'm really trying to do is find "critical paths" in my dep tree, so I can go "you know what, I really don't need package X. Oh look, that removes 200MB of dependencies"
22:46*twb pokes at debtree
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22:50<twb>Think I'll run this later when I'm not on battery :P
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23:21<twb>You know how update-pciids downloads a list of vendor/device codes? Where is the equivalent file for USB?
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23:57<PovAddictW>how do I change the console keyboard layout?
23:57<twb>PovAddictW: /etc/default/keyboard applies to both X and tty
23:58<twb>You might be able to set it with dpkg-reconfigure of something like console-setup
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23:58<twb>I do it by hand so I can add XKBOPTIONS="altwin:ctrl_win,ctrl:nocaps"
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