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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-10-07

---Logopened Tue Oct 07 00:00:42 2014
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00:12<PovAddictW>ok, I set it to 'la' for latin american and now when I type I get squares :x
00:12<PovAddictW>so I can't set it back D:
00:12<twb>That is probably not a right thing, la sounds more like latin (i.e. roman)
00:12<PovAddictW>crap
00:13<twb>PovAddictW: boot a live CD
00:13<twb>Sorry, if I had been paying more attention I'd have warned you to be careful
00:13<PovAddictW>it's a raspberry pi; I'll just put the SD card on a computer
00:13<twb>http://sprunge.us/ONMO?ini is what mine looks like
00:14<twb>layout "la" is apparently Lao
00:14<PovAddictW>yea I probably don't even have fonts for that :D
00:15<twb>Ref. /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst
00:15<PovAddictW>brbb
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00:18<twb>I guess you want latam --> Spanish (Latin American) or br --> Portuguese (Brazil) http://sprunge.us/KZMh
00:19<twb>^ got bored waiting for him to come back, afk lunch
00:19<twb>Someone please mention that to him
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00:21<PovAddict>back
00:22<PovAddict>twb: what was the file listing the layouts?
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00:23<PovAddict>ah it's latam; I thought all codes were two-letter
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00:36<twb>PovAddict: 15:18 <twb> I guess you want latam --> Spanish (Latin American) or br --> Portuguese (Brazil) http://sprunge.us/KZMh
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02:50<sleser>can i ask a quastion it might sound stupid . maby because i am , anyhow . what is the diferens between linux or freebsd
02:51<Stummi>they are two different operating systems
02:51<sleser>that i know
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02:51<sleser>id like to know more about freebsd
02:52<sleser>reading from sites dosnt help
02:52<sleser>id like a persons experience . and openion
02:52<Stummi>Try asking in their IRC-Chan
02:52<sleser>ok
02:52<twb>sleser: that's a bit like asking people about how OS X and Windows are different
02:53<sleser>well lets pute windows in a box. and not talk about it
02:53<sleser>definately wont use windows again
02:53<sleser>anyhow
02:53<sleser>windows is all about money and waisting a chipset whitch can still work for another os
02:53<Stummi>twb, I think its not that easy, since OSX, BSD and Linux are all POSIX systems, while windows is something completly different
02:54<twb>Stummi: Windows is POSIX.1 certified; Linux and FreeBSD are not :-)
02:54<twb>At least, NT4 or Windows 2000 was. I don't think later releases were.
02:54<Stummi>okay
02:55<twb>But my point was, FreeBSD and Linux have separate cultures and separate codebases to do (broadly) the same thing.
02:55<sleser>.. to my understanding . ones windows xp stoped suport i couldnt use any other os with my dell xps600 os like windows .
02:55<sleser>but look im using debian
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02:56<sleser>i see windows is good for nothing. my xps600 still rocks on debian weezy
02:56<sleser>so was asking what freebsd is and how diferent it is with linux . on behalve realy hurasing the system until it cant stand any more any other os
02:56<sleser>squizing the juice out of the chipset and making the money worth
02:57<sleser>is all because when my windows xp suport expired i had to trow the computer out . but i havent been runing linux sins
02:57<sleser>still rox and fast
02:57<sleser>compared with windows runing the system
02:58<twb>sleser: if all you want to do is just run apps, you probably don't really care about the differences between linux and freebsd.
02:58<twb>sleser: you should use whatever your local tech support friends can support best
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02:59<sleser>so far happy about debian distro . i should try wmware bsd while with debian as well
02:59<sleser>i think
02:59<Stummi>just try it and see if its okay for you
02:59<Stummi>*for your needs
02:59<sleser>thanks for advice
03:00<sleser>bbl
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05:13<iper>Where the kernel free and spsefications about hardware sported
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05:14<iper>for debian and other ditributions
05:14<Maulkin>http://h-node.org
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05:16<iper>I see the link and thanks and about this web
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05:20<iper>thanks is a important information
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06:14<mandark>Hi there, I had an eepc and there were an eepc-acpi-scripts, now I own a Samsung, is there a package or clean source to get ACPI scripts for those ones ? Events seems pretty standard like "video/brightnessup", "video/brightnessdown", I imagine there is a clean place where thos kind of configuration file are stored ? But I can't find it
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06:17<jm_>have you tried laptop-mode-tools?
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08:14<mandark>jm_: It installs /etc/acpi/events/{lm_lid,lm_ac_adapter,lm_battery}
08:14<mandark>jm_: Probably a super usefull package, i'm inspecting all this stuff right now
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08:14<mandark>jm_: but it typically does not hooks to 'Fn' keys
08:16<jm_>mandark: hopefully someone else can provide a better response then (you could also ask on the debian-user mailing list)
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08:23<mandark>jm_: ok, thanks, at least you made me discover lapto-mode-tools, seems great :-)
08:23<jm_>no problem
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09:04<olspookishmagus>someone tell me the output of: $ dpkg -S /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/glib/index.html
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09:10<KevinMGranger>olspookishmagus: dpkg -S /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/glib/index.html
09:10<KevinMGranger>whoops
09:10<KevinMGranger>olspookishmagus: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/glib/index.html.
09:10<KevinMGranger>there ;)
09:10<olspookishmagus>and you do have such a file, right?
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09:11<KevinMGranger>nope
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10:01*Jake ? ALGUIEN ? SOMEBODY ?
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10:41<nafur>Hi, I have installed jessie with xfce on a computer with a nvidia geforce 9500 GT. Whenever a larger part of the screen changes, the screen is black for about a second and comes back again. I have not been able to find anything in the logs... Any hints what I could try?
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10:42<nafur>I tried to install nvidia-driver (that is what nvidia-detect) suggests, but this doesn't change anything
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14:54<jjacklin>Good Evening, Please can someone help? Basically I would like to create a Debian iso and add the broadcom firmware and the firmware for qualcomm atheros device, obtaining the firmware is not the issue I can easily do that but adding it to the iso is what I am having trouble with as I understand it mounts it in read only due to the iso standard, I know I just need to extract the firmware folder on the iso just how do I go about it?
14:54<jjacklin>Oh and I have tried the small live cd with the supposed firmwares on it and it just doesnt work. It loads my wireless card and then gets to configure apt and falls over and I know it isnt hardware as once the installation is complete I can run the .deb file and it works. I am having to reinstall debian on my laptop so I have had experience with this before but would like to make this time around a little bit smoother.
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14:56<Brigo>jjacklin, you can add the firmware via usb stick during install
14:57<Brigo>jjacklin, or try bootcd
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15:01<jjacklin>I have tried adding the firmware via usb stick but do they have to be in some special format because the debian installation will not detect .deb files I have manually downloaded and copied all of the b43-installer b43 legacy and everything and put it on there and nothing it just flashes and then turns around and says please let me know where the firmware drivers are
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15:06<Brigo>jjacklin, next time try the wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware#Firmware_during_the_installation
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15:08<jjacklin>cool thank you Brigo
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15:08<Brigo>jjacklin, np :)
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15:14<soky>hi all
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15:50<iper>is the muy cuestion is the ip after name is ?¿
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15:52<Brigo>iper, what?
15:54<iper>@176.96.190.16 what is this ip
15:54<Brigo>your source ip
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15:58<iper>source
15:58<iper>?¿
15:58<iper>not understat source
15:58<iper>not your isp
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16:00<Brigo>iper, your ip
16:01<iper>your ip in the server
16:01<iper>no your isp
16:01<iper>that chat is anonymously
16:02<iper>I need yes
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16:03<vortek>is there a way to install debian over a wifi network when you have no cd or dvd drive?
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16:04<vortek>or usb sticks
16:04<vortek>i mean no usb
16:04<ixi>no cd, no dvd, no usb ?
16:04<iper>yes that enter of network
16:05<oddly>like a netinst? https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
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16:07<iper>you instlation that iso in cd
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16:10<Brigo>iper, do you know what your ip is?
16:10<Brigo>vortek, a usb stick?
16:10<Brigo>ixi, the problem is that the wifi will not connect to a ap without an operating system.
16:10<Brigo>ixi, unlike the ethernet. You can install through ethernet.
16:11<vortek>yeah actauly i got one handy
16:11<iper>yes
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16:11<ixi>iper english?
16:11<vortek>its a microsoft kingston *gb
16:11<vortek>er 8gb
16:12<iper>not more ixi
16:12<vortek>does itt matter that its microsux usb stick?
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16:12<ixi>iper spanish?
16:12<iper>yes but debian-es is empety
16:12<ixi>:(
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16:16<Brigo>vortek, it does not matter, but you will lose all the information in the stick.
16:16<Brigo>iper, i am in debian-es.
16:17<vortek>Brigo thats cool :)
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16:19<iper>sorry I error of entry i write debain
16:19<iper>:-P
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16:21<Brigo>vortek, then donwload and install netinstall image from here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.6.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-7.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso
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16:22<vortek>Brigo thanxs!
16:23<Brigo>vortek, are you in linux just now?
16:23<vortek>nope
16:23<vortek>windows
16:23<vortek>7
16:24<vortek>im using unetbootin to write the files the the usb drive
16:24<mtn>!unetbootin
16:24<dpkg>UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
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16:25<vortek>!usb install
16:25<dpkg>You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>.
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16:27<vortek>dammit
16:27<vortek>i need a linux system for usb installs
16:27<papo>hola alguna chica conectada
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16:28<mtn>vortek: no you don't
16:28<papo>ok
16:28<vortek>i must be reading the wrong section of the guide
16:28<mtn>vortek: you don't see win32diskimager?
16:29<vortek>yes
16:29<mtn>vortek: right up above: http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/
16:29<Brigo>i am not sure how to install the debian image from windows, but it is easy from linux
16:29<Brigo>vortek, i does not trust unetbootin very much for debian.
16:29<Brigo>let's try it :)
16:29<vortek>hehe
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16:30<Brigo>!dpkg tell papo about es
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16:31<vortek>ok im gona try unetbootin if not ill try win32diskimager
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16:31<mtn>oh well
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16:39<vortek>hrm my usb stick has a master boot file that cant be deleted, any ideas?
16:39<vortek>cuase it boots into windows
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16:39<vortek>even though the debian image is on the disk
16:40<vortek>disk=usb
16:40<Brigo>microsoft again? :)
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16:40<vortek>yeap
16:40<vortek>:(
16:40<vortek>when i hiit the delete key nothing happens
16:41<vortek>but i can delete the debian disk image file i just wrote
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16:43<uso>vortek: you have to overwrite the whole stick with the image, not to copy the file into the filesystem
16:44<vortek>ok
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16:44<vortek>i used unetbootin before
16:45<vortek>ill try win32disk imager like what was sugested this time
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16:45<vortek>dammit
16:45<vortek>the media is write protected! :(
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16:46<vortek>thats what win32 disk imager says
16:46<vortek>#$@$# dell
16:47<vortek>i think im screwed
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16:47<vortek>ahh unetbootin will write it!
16:47<vortek>hehe
16:48<blast007>but that will generally just break the debian installer
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16:48<blast007>do not use unetbootin
16:48<vortek>but win32 diskimage wont write to the usb
16:48<vortek>it says its write protected
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16:49<uso>vortek: running as administrator doesn't help?
16:49<vortek>nope
16:49<blast007>I'd take no installer over one that will break in unpredictable ways...
16:49<vortek>i had to run to run it as admin for it to work
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16:50<carla>paleta
16:50<vortek>blast007 i have no other choice
16:50<vortek>no dvd or cd on this computer
16:50<retrospectacus>unetbootin is NOT a choice. It will not work
16:50<vortek>and its over wifi so the debian windows installer wont work
16:51<vortek>well can you recomend anything?
16:51<blast007>is there a switch on the USB?
16:51<vortek>no
16:51<uso>vortek: maybe use unetbootin overwrite the stick, then remove it and reattach it, maybe windows let win32diskimager write to it after that
16:51<DNS>vortek: eg use gparted, format as fat32 and mark the partition as boot
16:51<vortek>dns im in windows
16:52<DNS>eek
16:52<vortek>ahh uso good idea
16:52<DNS>ok
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16:52<DNS>cant help with winblows
16:52<vortek>hehe
16:52<retrospectacus>windows is the uselessest. In linux you can do it with "cp"
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16:52<vortek>yeAH
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16:53<carla>hola
16:53<carla>holaaaaaaaa
16:53<sysvalve>!ask
16:53<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
16:53<DNS>vortek: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
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16:53<retrospectacus>!es-social
16:53<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
16:53<carla>XD
16:53<vortek>nope , media is writre protected
16:53<Brigo>!es
16:53<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
16:53<carla>que
16:53<retrospectacus>leer
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16:54<paleta>hola
16:54<retrospectacus>!es-social
16:54<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
16:54-!-rueh [~rueh@dynamic-205-239.catv.glattnet.ch] has joined #debian
16:54<carla>quien habla español
16:54<sysvalve>carla: #debian-es
16:54<Brigo>carla, this is a english channel
16:54<retrospectacus>usted no puedos leer?
16:54<carla>si si se leer
16:55<sysvalve>retrospectacus: smooth :)
16:55<jscarano_>Hey Guys, Anybody install VirtualBox on Jessie beta yet? My centos vm in bridged networking mode can't obtain the IPV4 dhcp address from eth0. Anybody seen this before? Any ideas?
16:55<sysvalve>carla: este canal es solo en ingles
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16:55<sysvalve>english only
16:55<sysvalve>:)
16:55<carla>paleta
16:55<paleta>carel
16:55<carla>mentira
16:55<paleta>soy brigido
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16:56<carla>alto tienes reson es en ingles
16:56<paleta>estoy jugando nazi zombie
16:56<devil>go get a room
16:56<carla>como juego
16:56<DNS>0_0
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16:56<sysvalve>salid de aqui, estais muy off topic :)
16:56<sysvalve>no es un canal de charla "normal"
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16:57<DNS>espanol? type: /join #debian-es
16:57<devil>sysvalve: they are well aware of that
16:57<retrospectacus> por favor ingresa al canal social con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
16:57<sysvalve>devil: trolls?
16:57<carla>juegan nazi zombi
16:57<vortek>linuxliveusb is formating the usb but is hanging on step 1
16:57<carla>digan
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16:57<carla>pale
16:57<carla>pale
16:57<carla>pale
16:58<carla>pale
16:58<carla>pale
16:58-!-mode/#debian [+q *!*@190.204.245.118] by FloodServ
16:58<sysvalve>yay
16:58<sysvalve>^_^
16:58*retrospectacus high fives FloodServ
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16:59<vortek>good i cheched windows exploerer during the format and the drive is clean
16:59<vortek>thaxs
16:59<vortek>thanxs
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17:00<vortek>the formater forze up the whole program oh well it did what is needed
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17:02<vortek>dammit the h: bootable drive apearedagain
17:02<vortek>oh well im screwed
17:02<DNS>vortek: format c: can help
17:02<DNS>;) lol
17:02<vortek>lol
17:03<vortek>i got wireless connection so i ccan use the installer at goodbye-microsoft.com
17:03<vortek>or goodbyemicrosoft.com
17:03<vortek>one of the two i think
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17:04<vortek>well i gona try a few things brb
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17:21<jjacklin>before I ask for the location of something that is probably right under my nose and look a fool, Is the cd with all of the non free firmware on the main download page for getting debian?
17:22<mtn>http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/
17:22<jjacklin>cool thank you, I was looking at https://www.debian.org/distrib/
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19:00<instigator>hi. is there a log application available which automatically sends an email each time there is a new entry in a log file?
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19:02<abrotman>instigator: There are several log monitoring utilities
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19:06<instigator>abrotman: the log utils i have read about, periodically send you an email including log entries, but didnt say anything about sending you an email as a log entry has been made e.g. when an attacker scans your network
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19:11<uso>instigator: sending an email for every new log messages probably is not a good idea, that could end in thousands of emails when something goes crazy, so log checkers have to do some filtering or summarizing
19:12<uso>logcheck e.g. runs every hour and only sends you unusual log messages, if you want to automatically block attacks fail2ban may be a good start
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19:13*abrotman is pretty sure one could easily script this
19:13<_spOOn_>instigator: I'd suggest you look into fail2ban
19:13<_spOOn_>it can send email and ban if thats what youre after
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19:37<instigator>thanks
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20:33<jjacklin>Hello again, please could someone help me with compiling a tar.gz. Basically I have installed Debian and the broadcom drivers supplied by debian are just plain crap non stop drop outs and so I need to install the broadcom non free driver, I have got the tar.gz but have not much experience in compiling files
20:33<abrotman>the drivers are already in Debian
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20:33<abrotman>jjacklin: which device do you have?
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20:35<estudiante>hola
20:35<sney>!tell jjacklin about wl
20:35<sney>gotta be that
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20:38<jjacklin>BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller is the model. ***note*** to install debian I downloaded the brcm-43xx driver and then added it to my flash drive which has installed and provided me with wireless access however that is just a waste of space as it has frequent drop outs. I had this before and none of the debian drivers would cut the mustard and so I installed the non-free broadcom one from the manufacturers websi
20:38<jjacklin>te and I never had a drop out and a stable system so its not a hardware issue but silly me has forgotten how to compile the file and cant find the tutorial I used. lol
20:39<sney>the "wl" driver provided in the broadcom-sta-dkms package IS the non-free broadcom driver from broadcom. it's just wrapped in a script that builds it for you.
20:40<abrotman>and installs it with package management instead of random cruft
20:40<sney>same thing as we have for nvidia graphics drivers, for instance
20:40<jjacklin>I understand what your saying but what confuses me is why is it dropping out?
20:41<DNS>vendors should be forced by law to release any drivers as free software + the firmware
20:41<abrotman>you haven't provided any logs
20:41*DNS is already beginning to dream :)
20:41<abrotman>DNS: go for it .. call your senator
20:41<DNS>heheh
20:41<jjacklin>lol the vendors will never release drivers
20:42<abrotman>jjacklin: some vendors do
20:42<jjacklin>they cba to write good drivers for windows these days let alone linu
20:42<jjacklin>x
20:42<jjacklin>thats why you end up with the b/s compatability drivers, HP for example lol
20:42<sney>most wifi nic drivers need firmware, but broadcom's are the worst to get working, IME
20:42<abrotman>anyway ...
20:43<jjacklin>so where am I looking for these logs? /var/log?
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20:43<abrotman>yes
20:43<sney>anyway, broadcom-sta-dkms is what you want as it provides the same thing as your tar.gz, and if you're already using the wl driver, then you have a different problem. (if it "worked before" with an older version of debian, it's possible that broadcom's engineers screwed something up with kernel compatibility, though we can never know because closed source)
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20:56<Primolo>Hi everybody, i need some help with debian and USB installation. I have installed debian on a USB, but when i try to boot from that from a PC with other linux and grub installed i haven't successed, but the usb work on a PC with only windows installed. Why?
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21:04<Priolo>Hi everybody, i need some help with debian and USB installation. I have installed debian on a USB, but when i try to boot from that from a PC with other linux and grub installed i haven't successed, but the usb work on a PC with only windows installed. Why?
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21:06<aletheia>how did you install it? can you be more precise with "haven't successed"? Priolo
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21:08<Priolo>i have installed debian on usb stick, istalled grub too, if i try to start from pc with only windows it's boot and i see grub of the usb. When i try to pc with other linux and grub doesn't boot. No error, only black screen and cursor
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21:11<aletheia>strange..well, my regular procedure is to dd an image to the device and then it works. never accounted such.
21:12<dvs>aletheia: No, they INSTALLED Debian on a USB
21:13<Priolo> I don't understand why on a pc work and on other not. Could maybe have problem grub on 2 different device? i can use other bootloader
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21:13<Priolo>yes i have installed debian, but i try dd procedure too, problem don't change, it's a strange problem of boot.
21:13<jjacklin>got it cheers sney
21:14<thatguychuck>If the PC has windows 8 it probably has secure boot enabled, and won't boot a different os.
21:15<Priolo>it's contrary, the pc wth windows 7 boot, pc with debian and grub2 won't boot from different disk
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21:16<aletheia>what's the other GNU/Linux distro?
21:17<Priolo>the same, debian wheezy on HD ad on USB
21:17<jjacklin>I compiled the files and rebooted and nothing, so following your advice I looked into wl and found this - Now the firmware that debian asks for in the installation process is wrong because if you install it, it installs everything including wl and they all conflict causing drop outs. As soon as I did modprobe -r b44 b43 b43legacy ssb brcmsmac and loaded wl modprobe wl it worked and the internet test that I was using diddnt
21:17<jjacklin> crap out as soon as it started using my new connection.
21:17<jjacklin>net*
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21:18<aletheia>ahh, these broadcoms.. ..i gave it up.. ;)
21:18<jjacklin>lol
21:19<aletheia>i'm wired now and can pull the plug whenever i want..
21:19<jjacklin>see it frustrated me before because I had this issue and I followed a tutorial to compile a tar.gz from broadcom and it worked solidly non stop. I had to format my hard drive and so when it come to installing it again I had forgotten and could not find the tutorial
21:20<jjacklin>eth0 is another story, it uses some Atheros crap which is even harder to get working lol
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21:22<jjacklin>I might make a tutorial on how to get Debian running on a Lenovo G505 because it is a royal pain in the ass
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21:22<aletheia>cheese.. ..well i did it once, too and got it working. but i followed some good commands as well..
21:22<dvs>jjacklin: I'd try the kernel from backports
21:23<jjacklin>its all working now dvs thank you lol
21:23<jjacklin>hopefully it can stand the test of a reboot
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21:23<aletheia>jjacklin, do some good tags and title for that tutorial, so other will remember.. ;)
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21:25<jjacklin>:)
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21:25<jjacklin>anyone recommend a good screencapture
21:25<jjacklin>for video tutorials?
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21:27<aletheia>wasn't there already one prepackaged in debian?
21:27<jjacklin>theres movie player and sound recorder
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21:29<aletheia>well, i would recommend screenshots anyway..which you can bind without putting users towards some malicious servers..
21:29<abrotman>jjacklin: apt-cache search record desktop ?
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21:31<jjacklin>cool thanks will have a look, I was just asking incase there was a preferred one that you guys like to use
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23:28<antoniodmora>good morning everyone, how can I have an advocate to be a Debian mantainer??
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23:45<chealer>antoniodmora: ask a member who you think will advocate you
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23:47<antoniodmora>i don't know any....
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23:54<_flip>hello
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23:58<chealer>antoniodmora: you're probably not ready to be a "Debian Maintainer". ask #debian-mentors
23:59<_flip>i have a question regarding tcp/routing - nothing debian specific. does anyone feel up to the task?
23:59<antoniodmora>no, not really chealer, I'm just getting in contact with people
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