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01:31<twb>Is there an easy way to say "what packages are in amd64-kfbsd that aren't in amd64?" ? Without actually having a kfbsd install handy, I mean.
01:32<twb>I guess what I really mean is "what packages are unique to the kfbsd arch"
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01:33<jm_>this probably doesn't fall into the east category, but grab Packages files for both and use dctrl-tools or dpkg-awk
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01:37<twb>yeah that was plan
01:37<twb>yeah that was plan B
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02:01<twb>http://sprunge.us/KZZi?diff from debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-\*amd64/Packages.bz2
02:02<twb>cool pf is in there
02:02<jm_>but you're missing on the awesomeness that is systemd!
02:04<iper>Brigo
02:04<iper>I win
02:06<twb>jm_: no comment
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02:10<k-man>since doing an update of php in debian, cron is now spamming me with "find: invalid argument `-delete' to `-cmin'" messages
02:10<k-man>i googled around and saw some bugs about this but the things people say to comment out of php.ini to fix it are not in my php.ini
02:11<jm_>update to which version?
02:12<twb>k-man: that's a bad substitution somewhere, e.g. when x is not set, doing "find ... -cmin $x -delete"
02:12<twb>/etc/cron.d/php5:09,39 * * * * root [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -depth -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -delete
02:12<k-man>jm_, 5.4.4-14+deb7u14
02:12<k-man>twb, yeah thats the one
02:12<twb>k-man: that's a bug in php, it should have double quotes around $()
02:13<twb>Actually it should probably be x=$(.../maxlifetime) && find ... -cmin "$x" -delete
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02:14<twb>So that if maxlifetime crashes, at least, it won't do anything. That's not quite the same as when it returns something other than an integer on stdout, of course...
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02:14<twb>k-man: anyway what does your /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime print?
02:14<jm_>yeah https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=759195
02:14<twb>Whee
02:15<twb>Not checking for existing bug reports is my super power
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02:15<k-man>jm_, perhaps i'm skimming too much but I can't see a fix in there that works for me
02:16<k-man>i don't seem to have the allow_call_time_pass_reference line in my php.ini file
02:16<twb>k-man: what does it print when you run it
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02:16<k-man>twb, run what?
02:16<twb>17:14 <twb> k-man: anyway what does your /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime print?
02:16<twb>When you run it, it's supposed to print a number
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02:17<k-man>Fatal error: Directive 'allow_call_time_pass_reference' is no longer available in PHP in Unknown on line 0: integer expression expected
02:17<k-man>24
02:17<jm_>k-man: not directly, but mail from Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:29:58 +0200 and further mails include the changes
02:17<twb>``Commenting out "allow_call_time_pass_reference = On" (and a few other lines) in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini made the error go away.''
02:18<jm_>yeah
02:18<jm_>that's what that mails says too
02:18<k-man>as i said, i don't have that line in my php.ini
02:18<twb>Well you do SOMEWHERE
02:18<twb>So start grepping
02:18<k-man>ok
02:19<k-man>afaict, nothing under /etc/ has that
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02:21<k-man>oh
02:21<k-man>never mind, ack-grep seems to not work as i was expecting
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02:22*twb points and laughs at ack
02:22<k-man>got to run
02:22<k-man>ill fix later
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02:26<jm_>that ack tool looks ok, I wish it offered what cgvg does though
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02:30<stemid>eh I know I've expanded a virtual debian guests disks before without rebooting. not talking about the system disk now but my own mount on /var/db. I'm using vmware for virtualization and debian squeeze with LVM. the pvs in question is on /dev/sdd1 alone with no other partitions. I expanded the disk in vmware and expected to see the new size after rescanning the scsi hosts and doing partx -a /dev/sdd but didn't. so I rebooted and saw the new space, removed the
02:30<twb>Bah.
02:30<twb>Just use GNU grep
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02:31<twb>All the ack weenies I've run across have been... inexperienced.
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02:32<twb>e.g. they didn't know you could just do --exclude-dir .git --include '*.[ch]'
02:32<jm_>stemid: your message was cut off at "the new space, removed the"
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02:35<twb>In /etc/profile, it says # The default umask is now handled by pam_umask.
02:35<stemid>so I rebooted and saw the new space, removed the partition and re-created it with new size but I still can't resize the pv.
02:35<stemid>so I'm surprised it takes this many reboots now
02:35<twb>...but there's no mention of pam_umask in /etc/pam.d/ -- so do I have to opt into it?
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02:36<stemid>when I'm sure I've done this before without rebooting.
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02:37<twb>stemid: in vmware? You might need the vmware client driver thingies.
02:37<stemid>open-vmware-tools
02:37<twb>That's the one
02:37<stemid>I mean open-vm-tools but yeah
02:37<stemid>we're on the same page
02:37<stemid>I have those
02:37<twb>Dunno then, sorry. I'm all about the kvm these days.
02:38<stemid>I wish I was too
02:38<themill>,bug 646692
02:38<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/646692 in libpam-modules (open, upstream, patch): «pam_umask: umask in /etc/login.defs not respected cause libpam_umask is not configured»; severity: normal; opened: 2011-10-26; last modified: 2013-04-23.
02:38<themill>twb: ^^
02:38<twb>themill: thanks
02:38<themill>also https://wiki.debian.org/UserPrivateGroups
02:39<twb>UPG = each user "foo" has their default group set to "foo" ?
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02:39<twb>hm, it seems not. /me reads on
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02:41<stemid>hm UPG was new to me. I think I'd just use posix acl
02:41<twb>OK I know what UPG is, I just never knew there was a name for it
02:41<themill>twb: yes, essentially. You have a permissive umask but a restrictive default group. Things you want to share, you pop into a shared group
02:42<themill>Rather than having to educate each and every user how to change umask and then having them forget etc
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02:43<twb>Yeah this is for a prison so I want the umask to be tighter than normal. Because I still haven't gotten around to deploying fancy ACLs or an LSM :-/
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02:44<twb>There's a cron job that just hoses all permissions and ownerships across all of /home every couple of decaminutes, but it's better if the default umask makes things rwx------ to begin with
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02:45<twb>So now I get to write a /usr/share/pam-configs because editing pam.d directly is scary
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02:47<weasel>decaminutes? heathen! ksecs!
02:47<themill>I know not a cron that understands ks
02:47<weasel>time to fix that.
02:48<twb>I hate vixie cron, too, I just haven't been QUITE angry enough to replace it
02:49<twb>e.g. it hard-codes the From address
02:49<twb>pretty much all ISC software makes me angry
02:49<weasel>it probably doesn't.
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02:49<weasel>I'd guess it just calls sendmail and lets that deal with these details :)
02:51<twb>them's fightin words
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02:52<twb>http://codesearch.debian.net/show?file=cron_3.0pl1-124.2%2Fdo_command.c&line=561&numfiles=17#L561
02:52<twb>fprintf(mail, "From: root (Cron Daemon)\n");
02:52*twb SMASH
02:54<twb>pam_umask isn't DWIMming.
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02:55<twb>I guess I need to go understand pam *and* pam-auth-update now :-/
02:55<twb>Or I could just cheat and put "umask 077" in /etc/X11/Xsession and then go to the pub
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03:00<vortek>lol
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03:00<twb>vortek: no one will ever know
03:01<vortek>hehe
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03:07<twb>http://sprunge.us/bjhT?diff pub... ACTIVATE!
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03:10<vortek>lol
03:11*twb recruits vortek for the twb fan club
03:11<vortek>hehe
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03:32<twb>Huh. arch wiki mentions tlp which we don't have -- http://bugs.debian.org/711471
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03:39<twb>I think I prefer powertop --html style, where it just says "hey you could do xxx" and you can go learn about what that does and decide whether or not to follow its advice.
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07:50<tweakism>I have created a udev rule, but it's not quite entirely taking effect: 90-uk.rules:SUBSYSTEM=="block", ATTRS{idVendor}=="13fe", ATTRS{idProduct}=="1d00", ATTRS{serial}=="0781175D0001", ATTRS{manufacturer}==" ", SYMLINK+="uk%n", GROUP="root", OWNER="root", MODE="0400", OPTIONS+="last_rule"
07:51<tweakism>br-------T 1 root floppy 8, 80 Oct 13 07:47 /dev/sdf || lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Oct 13 07:47 /dev/uk -> sdf
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07:52<tweakism>one of the other files is managing to set me to group = floppy. I've tried putting my file at /etc/udev/rules.d/10-uk.rules as well as /lib/udev/rules.d/10-uk.rules and 99-uk.rules
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07:54<tweakism>bah; my appologies
07:54<tweakism>I *didn't* try it as 99-uk.rules; I tried it as 90-uk.rules, and that wasn't late enough. 99-uk.rules works.
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08:02<Pascal_1>hello
08:03<Pascal_1>i've got a strange problem since since last upgrade (i dont remember wich one)on sid. I cant make works desktop file with a space in the "Exec" key. Does someone ahs the same problem ? (ex : cssh servers)
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08:06<jm_>Pascal_1: from the topic -- testing/unstable: #debian-next
08:06<Pascal_1>ouch ok sorry ...
08:07<Pascal_1>jm_: however, may be there is the same problem on stable ? ;-)
08:08<jm_>Pascal_1: no idea, I use a simple wm so I know nothing about desktop files
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08:17<Guest1473>hello
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08:23<linux_krsytal>if
08:23<linux_krsytal>heel
08:23<linux_krsytal>hello
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08:25<devil>linux_krsytal: ĵust ask
08:25<linux_krsytal>sak what?
08:25<devil>your question
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08:26<linux_krsytal>what is your name
08:26<devil>linux_krsytal: this isw not your usual chatroom and there is hardly and girls here
08:27<blast007>linux_krsytal: This is the Debian linux support channel. Do you have a question regarding Debian linux?
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08:29<linux_krsytal>e..it is my first time to use it ,and ,,this channel is to ask something about bebian linux?
08:30<devil>yes
08:30<devil>fix problems
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08:36<linux_krsytal>e ,sorry i have no problem now ,i just want to know what is xchat.and now i konw this channel .i sorry for disturbing
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08:50<topro>hi, any one of the ceph debian package maintainers here, please?
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08:54<themill>topro: highly unlikely. If you have a question, just ask. If you have a bug to report, then use reportbug.
08:56<topro>themill: actually I wanted to ask if there is a specific reason why ceph packages seem to no longer get backports for squeeze, not really a but
08:57<themill>Were they ever in squeeze-backports? The backports-users list would be a better place to ask (or search the archives)
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08:59<topro>there have been official packages for squeeze-backports. but newer bugfix versions appearing for unstable/testing suddenly stopped appearing as squeeze-backport. will ask on backports-users.
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09:05<Jjedi>o/
09:06<themill>topro: I can find no evidence that these packages were ever in squeeze-backports. The openstack maintainers look like they made their own backports at some stage and they keep their backports in separate repos
09:06<Jjedi>why i cant install oracle java 6 in my debian testing ¬¬
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09:06<Jjedi>i need thist to run ERP adempiere in my laptop
09:06<themill>Jjedi: you'd have to ask oracle that (they don't support java 6 any more in any case)
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09:07<Jjedi>themill, true true
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09:09<topro>themill: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ceph
09:09<themill>topro: there's no mention of squeeze-backports thre
09:09<topro>sorry, I'm talking about wheezy-backports, my fault
09:10<themill>ahh. Yes the ceph packages are in wheezy-backports.
09:10<topro>still, after 0.80.4 backports to wheezy stopped appearing
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09:11<themill>yeah, you'd need to ask the uploader of the package (who is also the maintainer of the package) if they can update them. Backports don't get automatically updated
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09:16<Minemaximvm>eee
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09:16<Minemaximvm>ciao daniel
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09:16<Maulkin>!it
09:16<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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09:31<topro>themill: thanks for the info. I'll contact them. is there a recommended way to contact package maintainers?
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09:46<Crowe165>Hi
09:46<Crowe165>I have downloaded the three DVD ISO images for a offline installation on my second computer
09:47<Crowe165>I have a general question: Can I convert the three DVD IDO images to one big ISD image?
09:47<Crowe165>*ISO
09:47<Crowe165>like 3-in-1
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10:07<petn-randall>Staying more than a few minutes actually helps ...
10:07*petn-randall sighs.
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10:20<aviel>ls
10:20<aviel>ls
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11:05<bl4ckr4bb1t>amigooooooo
11:05<bl4ckr4bb1t>hello guys
11:06<bl4ckr4bb1t>:p
11:06<planetmaker>!ask
11:06<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:07<bl4ckr4bb1t>planet
11:07<bl4ckr4bb1t>u there bud ?
11:08<bl4ckr4bb1t>I have a problem with debian
11:08<bl4ckr4bb1t>can u pls tell me why i cant install .deb in backbox
11:10<vrkalak>isn't 'backbox' a ubuntu-distro?
11:11<planetmaker>!backbox
11:11<dpkg>BackBox Linux is a distribution based on <Ubuntu> Lucid, developed to perform penetration tests and security assessments. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.backbox.org/ #backbox on irc.autistici.org. See also <based on debian>.
11:12<vrkalak>Ubuntu and Debian are not compatible nor are they interchangeable
11:12<bl4ckr4bb1t>yep
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11:13<bl4ckr4bb1t>but backbox works before on .deb
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11:15<vrkalak>bl4ckr4bb1t, try any the Ubuntu IRC on /freenode
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11:15<planetmaker>.deb is just a file format, bl4ckr4bb1t. It can contain anything. And a .deb is always tailored for a specific distro, if not even for a specific release of a specific distro
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11:15<planetmaker>rather try the irc channel given by !backbox
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11:17<artu>CIAO
11:17<artu>chi e debhelper
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11:32<bl4ckr4bb1t>ty.. really helpfull
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11:38<grove>I have come across something I don't understand with version numbers of debian packages: http://paste.debian.net/125968/ - 'dpkg --compare-versions' reports "6">"5", "1-6">"1-5", "6+">"5-" (all as expected) but "1-6+" is not > "1-5-", why?
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11:41<Brigo>grove, nice question :)
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11:57<joseph-soares>hi, can I ask something about apache here?
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12:04<joseph-soares>I tried to send to httpd channel on freenode, but I could't and I don't know why. I'd like to know why there are three apache instances running on my system. I don't know if they are instances, bat they are processes.
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12:05<Brigo>joseph-soares, well, i have 11
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12:06<TeslasMHD>joseph-soares: root@g6 (~) % ps axu|grep apache2|wc -l
12:06<TeslasMHD>13
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12:07<Brigo>TeslasMHD, pgrep -c
12:07<Brigo>pgrep -c apache
12:08<TeslasMHD>Thanks.
12:08<Brigo>or -l to show them
12:08<Brigo>TeslasMHD, np :)
12:08<TeslasMHD>^_^
12:09<joseph-soares>Brigo, TeslasMHD , I have some problem and I don't know if that's the reason. I have a control system to a restaurant and when I try to print something (using a printer) sometimes it prints twice instead only once.
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12:09<pbfu>how can i make a installer for pidgin
12:09<Brigo>joseph-soares, i doutb it. Apache use to run some differents instances to be ready for new connections.
12:10<Brigo>i think it is no related to print issues.
12:10<joseph-soares>I think my problem is Duplicate Request being sent
12:11<Brigo>you can see the cups queue and look for duplicate request.
12:11<Brigo>If there are duplicate request the problem is no cups but the sender.
12:11<joseph-soares>Brigo, can you tell me please how to see this queue?
12:11<Brigo>look at the sender for duplicate request, if not ask the sender why are it sending duplicate resquest.
12:12<Brigo>cups has a web interface in some port, let me check
12:12<Brigo>localhost:631
12:12<Brigo>http://askubuntu.com/questions/23936/how-do-you-administer-cups-remotely-using-the-web-interface
12:12<joseph-soares>Brigo, In error.log I see one being sent to a PID, and other to another one
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12:13<Brigo>the error.log of what program?
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12:13<joseph-soares>Brigo, apache
12:13<Brigo>i can see what are you saying, can you paste error.log in paste.debian.net?
12:14<Brigo>s /can/cannot/
12:14<joseph-soares>Brigo, It's not an error. It's everything happens in my system, it register in error.log file
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12:15<Brigo>weird
12:15<joseph-soares>Brigo, I developed using Django and when I use a print command, it prints on stderr
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12:21<antoniodmora>I need to create a custom debian image, but i think simple-cdd manual is not explicit enough. I'd like to ask for help on creating the custom installer, and to update the manual
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12:22<joseph-soares>Brigo, http://paste.debian.net/125974/
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12:24<bogdanov>Hi!
12:24<antoniodmora>hi
12:24<joseph-soares>Brigo, There are two identical requests at the same time. But when one of them executes, the item (Cod 132) was marked as processed, that's the reason it doesn't apears the other part
12:26<Brigo>joseph-soares, i think that is a bug in the programm itself.
12:27<Brigo>what proccess is (or was) 1140?
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12:28<joseph-soares>Brigo, I've debugged and there's no any error. And it doesn't happen every time. It's just in some case
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12:29<joseph-soares>Brigo, if I repeat the same order, it work normaly
12:29<Brigo>joseph-soares, i am not a programmer, i can help you much more. But i can tell you that apache does not sed printing request.
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12:30<joseph-soares>Brigo, Could be the navigator?
12:31<Brigo>joseph-soares, i doub it, but you can try with another and see.
12:31<joseph-soares>Brigo, Ok, I'll try. Thank you
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12:32<Brigo>joseph-soares, np, good luck :)
12:32<afsal>why debian wheezy not contain latest version of Gnome?
12:33<centrx>afsal, It is a stable release
12:34<afsal>why we are not including latest version?
12:34<centrx>afsal, The latest version was included at the time the stable release was frozen in preparation for release.
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12:37<Brigo>centrx, the last release of gnome is not stable enough yet, when it becomes stable enought it will be available for wheezy using backports.
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12:39<peter1138>"not stable enough"
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12:39<peter1138>THat's not how it works :S
12:40<centrx>gnome is probably not very backportable
12:40<Brigo>peter1138, how works what?
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12:41<Brigo>centrx, then it will not reach wheezy, jessie will be frozen next month
12:42<centrx>It looks like 3.14 is in testing now, but the metapackage has an old version
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12:43<afsal_>is jessie includes gnome 3.14
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12:44<afsal_>here it tells https://packages.debian.org/testing/allpackages
12:44<centrx>https://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.14-status.html
12:44<afsal_>it is 3.14
12:45<afsal_>:D
12:45<afsal_>:)
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12:58<blazed>o.o
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13:01<blazed>Oct 13 12:59:09 tb-m1 kernel: [ 698.857053] chrome[9052] general protection ip:b2f47c2e sp:bfdb70b4 error:0 in chrome[b25ff000+51ab000]
13:01<blazed>anyone?
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13:04<centrx>blazed, may be related to "chrome", which is not a Debian package
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13:05<blazed>that's what i assumed.. i upgraded/reinstalled related pkgs the other day and was getting a gtk2-engines error.. fixed that but chrome still isn't working
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13:06<blazed>(it just started erroring a few days ago after updates)
13:06<centrx>blazed, Why not use the chromium package in Debian?
13:06<TeslasMHD_>Just trying Polari.
13:07<blazed>cause i've never had a problem with chrome til now
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13:08<centrx>blazed, chromium is chrome
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13:09<blazed>guess i'll have to look into it
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13:10<blazed>just curious as to what could of happened.. bug in the update maybe..
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13:12<blast007>https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome some minor diffeences, but yes, largely the same. Biggest noticable difference may be video codec support.
13:13<centrx>blazed, Yes, it could be a bug in chrome, or mismatched dependencies. Otherwise kernel error usually means hardware problem and is not attached to one piece of software.
13:16<blazed>the error was, 'Gtk2-engines-murrine' lines 94 && 105 in /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm
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13:26<tweakism>what's the deal with console-tools and kbd... how do they differ?
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13:39<Toligniew>hi
13:40<Toligniew>who know "a start job is running for create volatile files and directories" at boot
13:40<tweakism>is that an exact quote?
13:40<Toligniew>at boot system hangs at "a start job is running for create volatile files and directories"
13:41<Toligniew>i use jessie/sid
13:43<blazed>centrx; thanks for the suggestion, installed chromium, works fine
13:45<centrx>cool
13:46<centrx>blazed, stables gets up-to-date browser packages for chromium (for security), so it will be as up to date as the Google version
13:46<Brigo>Toligniew, can you paste the log in paste.debian.org?
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13:47<Toligniew>i cant byt my problem is similar to this post http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=118008
13:47<Toligniew>i have luks encrypted system
13:48<Toligniew>evryday i take updates, and now i have no idea what to do with this
13:48<Toligniew>Brigo: thanks for reply :)
13:48<Brigo>Toligniew, join #debian-systemd and ask there, they use to help.
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13:49<Toligniew>Brigo: ok
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15:37<txomon|home>dutchfish, ok
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15:37<txomon|home>anyway, I still can't understand that policy ;(
15:38<txomon|home>and don't know which patch you are speaking about
15:38<txomon|home>and neither understand why this doesn't work :(
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15:42<txomon|home>is it this? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/185644749/pepperflashplugin-nonfree-version.diff
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15:49<sebastian_>hola
15:50<txomon|home>!es
15:50<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
15:50<sebastian_>Alguien que hable Spanish
15:50<sebastian_>?
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15:51<devil>!es
15:51<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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15:51<txomon|home>!es sebastian
15:51<dpkg>sebastian: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
15:52<txomon|home>meh
15:52<devil>:)
15:52<txomon|home>devil, doesn't seem to understand
15:52<txomon|home>and I wrote down wrong the name :(
15:52<txomon|home>!es sebastian_
15:52<dpkg>sebastian_: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
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15:53<txomon|home>btw how may I change that spanish message? it's wrong!
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15:54<devil>txomon|home: i think you need to talk to themill
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15:55<txomon|home>themill, you there?
15:55<txomon|home>well, just for you to read later
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15:56<txomon|home>instead of "por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat" I would put, "puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la linea de chat"
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15:59<somiaj>txomon|home: try changing it yourself, /msg dpkg es is <factiod>
15:59<somiaj>txomon|home: I belive that is the syntax
16:00<somiaj>I know dpkg keeps a log of its changes so they can be revereted, unsure who dpkg accepts changes from though.
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16:00<dualbus>If you're at it, línea, not linea.
16:00<txomon|home>yeah
16:01<txomon|home>I was correcting that xD
16:01<txomon|home>lets see
16:01<txomon|home>!es
16:01<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
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16:01<somiaj>I'd correct it but my client doesn't like utf8 characters so unsure if they would copy/paste correctly.
16:02<txomon|home>seems it likes anything of that
16:02<txomon|home>I have put all accents and doesn't seem to like them
16:02<txomon|home>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat
16:02<txomon|home>should be
16:02<txomon|home>and he puts
16:02<txomon|home>!es
16:02<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat.
16:02<txomon|home>¬¬
16:03<txomon|home>maybe dpkg doesn't have encoding correctly configured?
16:04<somiaj>I think you need to talk to dondelelcaro about that. But now they are all hilighted maybe they'll look into it.
16:05<dondelelcaro>dpkg: literal es
16:05<dpkg>"es" is "<reply> see spanish"
16:05<dondelelcaro>dpkg: literal spanish
16:05<dpkg>"spanish" is "<reply> Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat."
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16:05<dondelelcaro>dpkg: no, spanish is <reply> Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-esen la línea de chat.
16:05<dpkg>dondelelcaro: okay
16:05<dondelelcaro>!es
16:05<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-esen la línea de chat.
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16:06<txomon|home>finally!
16:06<dondelelcaro>dpkg: spanish =~ s/esen/es en/
16:06<dpkg>dondelelcaro: OK
16:06<dondelelcaro>!es
16:06<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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16:06<somiaj>see just got to hilight the right nick. Thanks dondelelcaro (:
16:06<dondelelcaro>no problem
16:06<dondelelcaro>dpkg: literal CMD: es (.*?)
16:06<dpkg>"cmd: es (.*?)" is "($1): <reply>$1: Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat"
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16:07<txomon|home>TT
16:07<dondelelcaro>dpkg: no, CMD: es (.*?) is ($1): <reply>$1: Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
16:07<dpkg>okay, dondelelcaro
16:08<txomon|home>what means the spanish =~ ... thing?
16:08<somiaj>txomon|home: regex, so it modify it, in this case doing a switch (find/replace)
16:09<txomon|home>yeah, but where is it applying that =)
16:09<txomon|home>ah ok
16:09<txomon|home>I found it
16:10<dondelelcaro>txomon|home: I missed the space between es and en, so I had to fix it
16:10<dondelelcaro>(one of the many dangers of copy-pasting in IRC)
16:10<txomon|home>yeah, it was hard to spot :D
16:10<txomon|home>sure
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17:20<sleser>guys can i get help on installing a more newer virsion of xbmc the only virsion im seeing is 11 on repository
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17:22<awal>check in backports if there is a newer one
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17:24<sleser>there is one
17:24<awal>for + info https://wiki.debian.org/Backports
17:24<sleser>how do i setup the backports
17:24<awal>^^^
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17:24<Brigo>!backports
17:24<dpkg>A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>.
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17:26<Cyber_lion_7>alguem me ensina a usar IRC
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17:31<awal>sleser, basically you must add backpot repo to your sources.list , update ur system and then install the x pack. As root run "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" add at the end deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free (change us if your are not in us) . Update ur system "apt-get update" then install "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install xmbc". check if all is good "apt-get -f install".
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17:32<awal>thats all.
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17:34<sleser>awal i already have everything set to non free here . http://paste.debian.net/126012/
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17:38<awal>check the link i sent u and learn my last message Mr sleser. in ur sources list u have oly official standard wheezy repos add the backports one
17:38<sleser>where do i get them
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17:41<awal>add this line at the end of ur sources.list file # wheezy-backports
17:41<awal>and (at the end) this other line deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free
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17:43<awal>save changes: ctrl + x + y + enter
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17:43<awal>run apt-get update
17:43<awal>apt-get -t wheezy-backports install xmbc
17:44<awal>check if things are okay apt-get -f install
17:45<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/126013/
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17:47<awal>paste ur sources.list file
17:48<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/126015/
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17:52<sleser>see the xbmc homepage has for debian , http://people.debian.org/~rbalint/ppa/xbmc-ffmpeg/
17:52<sleser>should i add it to source list ?
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17:59<awal>sleser, you sources.list if fine now
18:00<awal>the error you get happens some times but i dont know why
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18:00<awal>close (exit) your terminal
18:00<sleser>i pm u another apt-get update after source list fix . error again
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18:01<awal>open it again then run apt-get update and then apt-get -t wheezy-backports install xmbc
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18:02<awal>things must be fine
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18:03<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/126018/
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18:04<awal>xbmc or xmbc?
18:04<sleser>xbmc
18:04<sleser>works
18:04<sleser>do i remove the backport from sourse list after instaling this ?
18:04<awal>sorry i was confused. i dont use that pack.
18:05<awal>so run again apt-get -t wheezy-backports install xbmc
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18:05<sleser>xbmc installed succesfuly
18:05<awal>that's fine so
18:05<sleser>should i remove the backport from source list or just leave it there ?
18:06<awal>no
18:06<peter1138>Leave it there.
18:06<sleser>doing the update i still goten error is that ok ?
18:06<awal>u will recieve updates for that pack via that repo. and maybe you will install more packs from backports
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18:07<sleser>how about an error like so with a good source list . http://paste.debian.net/126019/ , is that a problem or issue ?
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18:09<awal>run apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean then exit ur terminal
18:09<awal>open again then try
18:09<awal>you should not get the errors
18:10<awal>at least you will not get them after a reboot. i experienced that some times
18:10<awal>i ignore the reason
18:10<sleser>i cant it says permiton denied
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18:11<awal>need root
18:11<sleser>sudo do it ?
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18:12<awal>su
18:12<awal>or sudo su
18:12<awal>i dont use sudo
18:14<peter1138>sudo -s
18:14<sleser>still error should i reboot ?
18:15<awal>try
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18:17<sleser>it still shows errors
18:17<awal>u rebooted?
18:18<sleser>yeh i restart computer
18:19<devil>sleser: that was the most useless remark of the day
18:19<somiaj>sleser: what error do you get?
18:19<sleser>what was devil ?
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18:19<devil>sleser: think about it
18:19<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/126021/
18:20<sleser>thinking about geting the error solved . the advice didnt work on reboot
18:20<somiaj>sleser: seems the mirror might be having errors. Could you share your sources.list file with us (And any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
18:21<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/126022/
18:21<sleser>source list did install me a file i needed. how broken can it be if it instaled . me what i needed
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18:23<somiaj>sleser: try this 'ping google.com' or some other domain name. I am wondering if domain name resolving is working for you
18:24<awal>sleser, somiaj, my sources.list and others in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/) are fine but sometimes I get errors related with debian repos almost in sid. i run apt-get clean & autoclean I reset the shell and problem solved; sometimes reboot is needed
18:24<somiaj>well he is getting a 404 http error, so trying to resolv that
18:24<sleser>somiaj do i stop or itll stop it self the , ping google.com
18:25<awal>i dont know if its mirror experiencing errors or my internet connection
18:25<awal>stop with ctrl + c
18:25<somiaj>sleser: yea hit ctrl-C
18:26<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/126023/
18:26<awal>sleser, ur debian is running in vm or real hardware?
18:26<sleser>real hd
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18:27<somiaj>sleser: just for a tst I took your sources.list and copied it into my sources.list. It seems to work fine. Maybe something is happening with your internet preventing you from going to the corect spot. Are you using a proxy?
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18:28<sleser>nope
18:28<peter1138> 23:27:53 up 1641 days, 7:39, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
18:28<peter1138>probably ought to update that :S
18:28<somiaj>with pm-suspend I don't like reboot anymore either, sometimes I forget to get running on the newer secure kernel.
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18:30<sleser>should i leave this problem ?
18:31<sleser>also now with source list having backport . new updates for nvidia not sure if i should update or not
18:31<somiaj>sleser: well from my point of view it is an issue with your network and I'm unsure what it could be doing. You can browse webpages over http just fine?
18:32<sleser>yeh i can brouse pages fine no problem
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18:33<sleser>im using a router
18:33<devil>sleser: what does: apt-cache policy xmbc say?
18:33<awal>sleser, as i said u, open terminal as root and type apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean. close the terminal and reboot and hopefully your issue will be solved. Me it's what I do.
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18:33<sleser>awal thats what i did
18:34<awal>sleser, restart you computer not your session
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18:34<devil>sleser: sorry, xbmc
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18:34<somiaj>sleser: hmm actually I see your error and it makes me think something is messed up on your system.
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18:34<sleser>devil http://paste.debian.net/126024/
18:35<sleser>while i reboot like reboot by turning off this time
18:35<sleser>brb
18:35<somiaj>sleser: the file it cannot find is http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages, but it should be looking for the file http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz -- unsure why apt is not correctly identifying the name of the file it wants to download correctly.
18:35<devil>Installed: 2:13.1~rc1+dfsg1-1~bpo70+1 so, what is the problem?
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18:36<vincent___>Hi everyone i begin to cry, i've try all the tuto and post about max upload size, i run with apache2 / postgresql / apc i have change my memory limit / upload max file size / max post size / htaccess... and many other thing but always the same thing request entity too large.
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18:36<devil>oh, I thought, this is still about xbmc
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18:37<somiaj>vincent___: this is on an actual server you have control over or some shared hosting srever?
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18:37<vincent___>Hi thx for your answer, it’s on my serv.
18:38<somiaj>vincent___: Can you upload smaller things just fine? Say something that is only a few kb
18:38<somiaj>vincent___: but looks like you have looked everywhere I would so I can't see what your problem would be.
18:38<vincent___>Yep arround 100mb
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18:38<somiaj>so 100mb works but larger than that doesn't?
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18:39<vincent___>Yep i tried like 70 mb work and 140 doesn’t https://lyon3.my-univ.com/tyty.php
18:39<vincent___>php info
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18:41<somiaj>so yea looks like it is set to 200M ther ebut 140M seems to fail....all I can say is dotdeb...that is usually considered poorer quality package and not supported here.
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18:41<somiaj>I doubt that is your issue, everything looks sane to me. But my personal suggestion is don't use dotdeb php packages.
18:41<somiaj>but at this point I woudln't say it would fix your issue.
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18:42<vincent___>Arf :/
18:42<vincent___>Thx
18:42<sleser>still the same error after shutdown
18:43<somiaj>sleser: yea I'm unsure why apt isn't trying to get the correct file. It works fine on my system. Makes me think you have messed something up but not sure what.
18:43<Brigo>some file in apt.d may be
18:43<Brigo>sources.list.d , i mean
18:44<sleser>but i did get afile from backport
18:44<sleser>how can list be mesed up
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18:44<somiaj>Brigo: no, his issue is apt-get update is giving him a 404 because it is looking for a file /foo/bar/Packages and the actual file on the server if /foo/bar/Packages.gz -- His sources work fine on my machine so it is something on his end causing this and I can't think of what it could be.
18:45<Brigo>i guess apt configuration, of any kind ...
18:46<awal>sleser, try restarting your router
18:46<sleser>with computer on ?
18:46<somiaj>I don't see how either of those would effect what file apt is supose to look for on a remote server. It is finding the server correctly, it is just not requeting the right package
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18:47<awal>sleser, i dont know
18:48<awal>somiaj, I get similar errors in my sid machine sometimes. rebooting my machine and router solves the problem sometimes. sometimes no. I have to wait some minutes or some hours. I think it¡s a mirror issue
18:49<awal>it happens rarely.
18:49<somiaj>awal: yea, I did a quick google search, seems the error message was missleading. It is actually looking for Packages.gz but doens't say so in the error
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18:50<somiaj>sleser: ftp.us.debian.org are round robin mirrors, try chaning ftp.us.debian.org to http.debian.net. Though still surprises me security.debian.org is erroing out too. Could be you have something crazy going on in your network not allowing communication to get to the right server
18:51<Brigo>somiaj, NSA!!
18:51<sleser_>restarted the router and the computer the problem is still the same , like so http://paste.debian.net/126025/
18:52<somiaj>sleser: apt-cache policy apt (what version of apt do you have installed)?
18:53<sleser_>http://paste.debian.net/126026/
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18:54<sleser_>sometimes when i go to google . i type google.com it comes up like , https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl , not sure if that relates to the this problem
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18:56<awal>sleser, if u clean ur apt cache, wait 1 hour or so and reboot ur computer , ur issue will disappear .
18:56<awal>do you get same error before adding backports repo to ur sources list?
18:57<vincent___>Hum do you have any idea about my possybilities at this point :(
18:57<sleser_>this problem never was . b4 the backport i added to source list
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18:57<sleser_>if i remoove backport line from sourse list i doublt itll show the same error
18:57<sleser_>i can try
18:58<awal>hmmm. I have the same sources list file like you and I have no issues
18:58<sleser_>weard lemy try take that line out
18:58<sleser_>and update
18:58<sleser_>then i gona add and try solution it.
18:58<awal>just comment it
18:58<awal>add #
18:59<awal>save and update
18:59<sleser_>hm . same problem
19:00<awal>ur errors are not related with the added backports repo
19:01<sleser_>ill do apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean , wait an hour
19:01<sleser_>see what hapens
19:01<sleser_>only if i were a linux genius . id know
19:01<sleser_>awal it find me the rite pakage to install
19:01<sleser_>xbmc i aptget it instaled
19:02<sleser_>ok another quastion sins ill try apt upadate in about an hour or 2
19:02<Brigo>xbmc have some bugs in debian last version.
19:02<sleser_>now i added a backport to source list. i have new updates showing for me to download in apper all related to nvidia should i update or not ?
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19:03<sleser_>about 12 updates . and if to aply it wants to remoove 3 files to add 12
19:03<sleser_>so im lost if i should or not
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19:05<awal>sleser, you will tell us later so. ur issue is related with your mirror or Internet connection. good luck
19:06<awal>sleser, in stable version updates are welcome usually
19:07<sleser_>ok so ill update what ever came up
19:07<awal>it's ur choice/ur box after all
19:08<sleser_>no its just weard , i gave it a try . its updating now , update for nvidia came rite after a new backport link to source list
19:08<sleser_>what ever hapens hapens
19:08<sleser_>its just a computer
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19:09<awal>only packages installed from backports will be updated from backports repository. don't worry
19:10<sleser_>got u
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19:13<sleser_>i think i messed up the error came doing update, http://paste.debian.net/126029/
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19:14<sleser_>brb lemy try to reboot
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19:39<exoplanet>hi on one of my systems 4 getty processes are running amok and use 100% each and occupy 4 of 8 threaded cores.
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19:42<exoplanet>And i can't find a good solution on the net. On suggested sollution is to disable getty or replace it with ngetty
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19:43<peter1138>wheezy?
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19:46<exoplanet>Yes. peter1138
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19:48<exoplanet>with a backports kernel (because of the LXC isolation problem)
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19:49<exoplanet>strace shows the inifinitly: read(0, "", 1) = 0
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19:51<aldito>holaa
19:51<aldito>dsadsadasdsa
19:51<aldito>dsa
19:51<aldito>dsa
19:51<aldito>d
19:51-!-aldito was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
19:52<exoplanet>*this
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19:54<peter1138>Is it a host or guest getty that's doing that?
19:56<exoplanet>I killed them, but now the system has no tty1.
19:56<exoplanet>peter1138, they belong to the host. The getty processes of the LXC container behave normal.
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20:01<peter1138>don't know then, sorry :(
20:01<peter1138>but, woo, one successful lenny->squeeze update
20:02<peter1138>now to move forward a few more years...
20:06<exoplanet>congratulations :) peter1138
20:07<exoplanet>restarting them with "/sbin/agetty -8 38400 vc/1 linux" worked. Hope they don't go on a rampage again.
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20:07<peter1138>:S
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20:07<Brigo>exoplanet, i think it could be a interaction with lxc gettys.
20:08<peter1138>They shouldn't interact at all, that's kinda the point of LXC.
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20:08<Cylus>I have a Java application that complains that Java 6 is too old to run it when I try to use it. However, Java 7 is installed. is there a way to attempt to run the application using Java 7 instead of the default Java 6 install?
20:08<Brigo>peter1138, i know but ...
20:09<exoplanet>Brigo, please elaborate. I am very interessted how different getty process could harm each other.
20:09<Brigo>Cylus, update-java-alternatives
20:09<Brigo>exoplanet, just some link i see googling for your problem
20:10<Brigo>https://www.google.com/search?q=wheezy+getty+cpu+100&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a&channel=nts
20:10<Cylus>Brigo: Won't that change which Java install is the default though? I'm not wanting to change the default, I'm only wanting to run this single application with a non-default Java version.
20:10<Brigo>Cylus, ok
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20:11<Brigo>Cylus, you can use the executable, for example /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/java
20:12<Cylus>Okay, sweet. Thanks Brigo!
20:12<exoplanet>Brigo, this one? http://blog.raymond.burkholder.net/index.php?/archives/544-libvirt_lxc-has-high-100%25-CPU.html
20:12<Brigo>Cylus, you are welcome :)
20:12<Brigo>exoplanet, not just one, i saw severals ...
20:13<peter1138>exoplanet, incidentally, this box has been on lenny for so long because it was running vservers... switching them to lxc finally.
20:13<exoplanet>I see two. Google is highly personalised, so we might see different results.
20:13<peter1138>exoplanet, what does the backport kernel fix regarding isolation?
20:14<exoplanet>peter1138, so queeze it is, or do you go to wheezy later? LXC and wheezy aren't great out of the box.
20:14<peter1138>i'm going to wheezy right now
20:14<exoplanet>peter1138, https://wiki.debian.org/LXC → Current issues in Debian 7 "Wheezy": LXC may not provide sufficient isolation at this time, allowing guest systems to compromise the host system under certain conditions
20:15<peter1138>Yeah, I know about that.
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20:15<peter1138>Just wondering how much the backport kernel fixes that.
20:15<exoplanet>And there is a bug that can lock up the host if you use the wront shutdown for a Container (with 3.2) lxc-halt oder reboot inside a container. peter1138
20:16<exoplanet>*wrong
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20:16<peter1138>Nice
20:16<exoplanet>Yep, had fun with that. On a Server that's several hundred kilometers away. peter1138
20:16<peter1138>I had the host shut down as well once or twice, with LXC in Squeeze...
20:17-!-mode/#debian [+l 650] by debhelper
20:17<exoplanet>LXC from the repo, or compiled?
20:17<peter1138>repo
20:17<peter1138>may well have been misconfigured :)
20:18<exoplanet>Oh and lxc-attach does not work with 0.8rc from wheezy. At least on my host.
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20:19<peter1138>Reboot into Wheezy time...
20:20<peter1138>This isn't several hundred kilometres away though. Only 80km.
20:21<peter1138>\o/
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20:22<peter1138>Haha, there's still some ancient etch packages installed...
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20:24<exoplanet>Which one? peter1138
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20:24<peter1138>Old bind-related stuff.
20:25<peter1138>Bye bye old kernels...
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20:31<Cylus>I swear, I think this software is broken. It can't find its classes even when I tell it exactly where they are.
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20:36<peter1138>Hmm, ext3->ext4, I wonder...
20:37<exoplanet>What do you wonder about?
20:37<peter1138>Whether I should bother :D
20:38<peter1138>(converting it)
20:38<exoplanet>IMHO yes. ext4 is much faster. But if that isn't important, then … meh
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20:39<sney>I still regularly use a filesystem that hasn't had an update since 2011. if it works, and you're not hurting for any specific new features, it works
20:40<peter1138>hmm, 2008
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20:43<sney>zfs and btrfs are the future, though
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20:46<peter1138>Ouch, no syslog anymore :p
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22:41<user12345>can anyone help me join #blender
22:41<user12345>:)
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22:42<user12345>I can't find it on the channels list
22:42<MarvelDigital>don't know if this is a debian related problem, but i have two 3.5 toshiba 3TB both less than 3 months old. One of them is inside my desktop and the other is unused. recently the smartcrtl is complaining that the 3tb desktop hd is about to fail. I plugged in my 2nd 3TB via usb but received a buffer i/o error. however, when i plugged into my laptop, the 2nd 3tb didn't have any buffer i/o errors. what could be the cause of this? i'm using 7.6 on
22:42<MarvelDigital> both computers.
22:42<PovAddict>user12345: there is no #blender in this server
22:42<sney>user12345: maybe it's on another network.
22:43<sney>(probably freenode.)
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22:43<MarvelDigital>user12345, it's on freenode.
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22:43<user12345>yes
22:43<user12345>how to join freenode?
22:43<user12345>:)
22:43<sney>MarvelDigital: janky disk controller. or the disk really is almost dead. most HD manufacturers have bootable diagnostic utilities that can give you better details about what's wrong.
22:43<PovAddict>/server irc.freenode.net
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22:46<MarvelDigital>sney, thanks. the laptop read it just fine though and i was able to access and partition it there, but when i brought it back to my desktop to use as back up, it still couldn't read it.
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22:47<user12345>could anyone tell me the steps to disconnect from here and joing freenode?
22:47<sney>MarvelDigital: rule out hardware first
22:47<PovAddict>/server irc.freenode.net
22:47<sney>user12345: what irc client are you using?
22:47<user12345>I'm using xchat ubuntu app
22:47<sney>!ubuntuirc user12345
22:47<dpkg>user12345: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
22:47<sney>you can right click that, choose connect, and then join blender from there
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22:53<MarvelDigital>sney, thanks. i'll try that when i get home. i read online that it might be related to the motherboard?
22:54<sney>that's usually where the disk controller lives, yeah. bios update might be worth looking at
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22:55<sney>2+ TB drives are not supported by every board, but usually that just manifests as missing capacity, not the drive not appearing at all
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22:57<av952xxx>helo
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23:00<av952xxx>hi
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23:01<bl4ckr4bb1t>H3110
23:01<MarvelDigital>sney, yeah, it's strange...although the desktop is about 3 years old...i think it's due for an update.. this could be a good excuse to do that... haha
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23:02<bl4ckr4bb1t>4ru 0ff1c4L ? m4rv3L ?
23:03<PovAddict>stop typing like that
23:04<bl4ckr4bb1t>ok dude :D
23:04<bl4ckr4bb1t>Am new to Xchat
23:05<bl4ckr4bb1t>sry IRC
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23:09<bl4ckr4bb1t>who is the channel operator ?
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23:38<facuu>holaa
23:39<PovAddict>!es
23:39<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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