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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-10-23

---Logopened Thu Oct 23 00:00:07 2014
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00:00<demiadmin>ive never even checked what i use... i just have an 800w with tons of cables getting into all my fans, it's awesome
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00:00<demiadmin>wheres watt info? is that just in system monitor or something?
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00:01<everon>I have my 3 phanteks fans on a scythe huge heatsink set to the lowest rpm nomally and it cranks right up for encodes so I get quiet during web surfing and noise during encodes
00:02<everon>the kill-a-watt thing I got from newegg is good for checking wall socket consumption
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00:02<demiadmin>ive been meaning to get one of those
00:02<everon>just plug your power bar into the killawatt an it tells you consumption on an little LCD screen
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00:10<demiadmin>question. when i hit apt-get update
00:11<demiadmin>i mean when i hit apt-get install firefox, it says firefox has no installation candidate
00:12<demiadmin>I'm still trying to understand the concept of a repo. Am I connected to one repo? So I should connect to a different one that would have the firefox package?
00:12<somiaj>demiadmin: debian doesn't distribute firefox due to issues with the non-free ness of the logo's. YOu need to use iceweasel instead (it is the same minus the firefox name/icons)
00:12<demiadmin>oh ha and I wanted to use firefox as a backup. I thought they looked familiar lol
00:13<somiaj>they are the same (minus the actual name/icons)
00:13<demiadmin>yes yes
00:13<somiaj>which the debian team removes because we are not allowed to distribute the copyrighted trademarks
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00:13<demiadmin>lol yes I understood
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00:14<somiaj>thunderbird = icedove and the full mozilla suite = iceape
00:14<demiadmin>does apt-get tap into everything available on this distro?
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00:14<demiadmin>ah i see
00:14<somiaj>if you want a backup you can install chromium (that is the opensource part of google-chrome)
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00:15<somiaj>depending on your sources, but if you have debian main, you have access to every package that debian provides for you and is DSFG complient. You can then add contrib and non-free for some software that doesn't meet the DSFG requirements but is still provided by debian (with out the same guarntee of quality or freeness)
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00:17<demiadmin>good to know. shift is over! thx somiaj
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00:26<towski_>why do I feel like my system is hacked
00:26<towski_>I ran rchunter and nothing showed up
00:26<towski_>rkhunter
00:26<towski_>also the other one
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00:27<rryoumaa>i can't tell you why you feel like it is; can you tell us? :)
00:27<rryoumaa>chkrootkit?
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00:28<towski_>well my system seems to shut down randomly for no reason
00:28<towski_>like once every couple months
00:28<towski_>and occasional glitchy x behavior
00:28<towski_>i guess it's just paranoia lol
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00:29<rryoumaa>could be hw
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00:58<molay>Hi, I somehow made it so debian boots to command prompt. How do I get it to initialize X automatically?
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00:58<molay>on booot
00:59<jm_>install a DM
01:00<molay>ok a DM is installed. I have xfce
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01:00<molay>when i start x it runs
01:00<molay>i believe xfce = lightdm
01:00<molay>should I reinstall my dm?
01:02<jm_>is it set as the default DM?
01:03<jm_>does dpkg confirm lightdm is installed?
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01:05<molay>jm_ good question let me figure out how to do that.
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01:06<molay>jm_, it says /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: lightdm is broken or not fully installed
01:07<DesertRock>So whats the suggested way to install an application that just gives you a folder with libs and a bin and similar. Such like Sublime does.
01:08<jm_>molay: so what does dpkg show for its status?
01:08<molay>that's what it gave me "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: lightdm is broken or not fully installed"
01:08<molay>jm_, let me make sure i'm giving you the right info
01:09<molay>i typed the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm"
01:10<jm_>molay: dpkg -s lightdm (use a pastebin)
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01:10<molay>ok
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01:13<k-man>is there a sort of bash profile directory in debian which any file in there will be sourced by default for users?
01:13<k-man>when the log in or create a new terminal
01:14<k-man>oh nevermind, just found it. profile.d
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01:17<molay>jm_, http://pastebin.com/j7P7dhAC
01:18<jm_>molay: it's not installed, so install it
01:19<molay>lol. simple enough.
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01:19<molay>jm_, how could you tell by that pastebin?
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01:21<jm_>molay: look at the Status field
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01:22<molay>oooh. now it says istall ok installed
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01:22<molay>gotcha. Hey thanks a ton. you saved me a lot of headache
01:23<vilce>hi guys
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01:23<vilce>today my debian 6.0 hanged and I reset it from vmware console
01:23<vilce>the error I found is this http://paste.debian.net/128245/
01:24<vilce>what does it mean ?
01:25<jm_>it indicates a kernel oops
01:26<vilce>I was wondering if I can translate somehow these lines so I can understand what happened
01:27<jm_>translate into what?
01:27<vilce>into human readable text
01:27<vilce>any hint is useful
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01:32<jm_>it is already human readable, it just takes someone who knows how to interpret it, it crashed at wait_on_page_writeback_range+0xce/0x11b, the rest can be figured out if you can decode what's at that address by someone who can read assembler code (but seeing as how this is debian 6 with probably proprietary vmware modules loaded you'll be lucky enough to find someone who would do that for you)
01:33<vilce>it could be a disk error, right?
01:34<vilce>after reboot it did a fsck
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01:34<k-man>why does the xterm-color detection in .bashrc not allow for xterm-256color ?
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01:35<jm_>to be honest, I am not quite sure, but if it was a disk error you would see that before the crash
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01:46<k-man>so... on line 40 of /etc/skel/.bashrc if one added xterm-256color i think it would make colour prompts more widely available
01:46<k-man>do you think i should raise a bug report for this?
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01:52<jm_>k-man: what does set TERM=xterm-256color?
01:52<k-man>jm_, well - some things I think
01:53<k-man>jm_, cygwin maybe?
01:53<k-man>i forget if I set it or its default now
01:53<jm_>k-man: how does cygwin matter for bash in debian?
01:53<k-man>but from what I read on stackoverflow xterm-256color is fairly standard: http://stackoverflow.com/a/10039347/386557
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01:54<k-man>jm_, because when i ssh in from cygwin to my debian box, it copies accross the xterm-256color which is not recognised in debian and then i don't get a colour prompt
01:54<jm_>apparently xterm -tn or termName X resourcle would also do that so I suppose a wishlist bug is OK
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01:55<jm_>yeah I use rxvt-256color all the time
01:55<k-man>hmm... and what does it set for $TERM?
01:57<jm_>I meant I use TERM=rxvt-256color all the time, it's similar to xterm-256color
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01:58<k-man>oh i see
01:58<jm_>I lied, it's rxvt-unicode-256color
01:58<k-man>i wonder if *-256color might not be appropriate
01:58<k-man>?
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02:02<jm_>that would cover screen-256color too
02:02<k-man>is that bad?
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02:02<k-man>seems good to me
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02:03<jm_>yeah it's good
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02:07<twb>About once every six months, I forget what the answer is and ask again:
02:07<k-man>42
02:07<twb>is there existing magic to just put my root filesystem into the ramdisk?
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02:08<twb>Right now I'm using live-boot in the ramdisk (10MB) with a 50MB filesystem.squashfs, which is a bit pointless -- just put the whole lot into the ramdisk
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02:09<twb>This is for little "appliance" firmwares that boot up and do nothing but boot up and run one program, like rsync or similar.
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02:10<twb>Heh, the end result is actually smaller than with squashfs
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02:11<twb>http://sprunge.us/FNYO
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02:12<k-man>springe looks nice
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02:15<twb>tho mksquashfs is MUCH faster than xz because mksquashfs can do individual blocks in parallel.
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02:22<twb>pixz took 45s, xz took 3 and a bit minutes. pxz I got bored and killed it after 90s
02:23<twb>Oops no.
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02:27<twb>Aw, it didn't DWIM
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02:27<twb>I symlinked /init -> /sbin/init and hoped it would just start running sysvinit
02:28<twb>http://sprunge.us/NLIA
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02:30<twb>Plan B is what I already did for one thing -- tell initramfs-tools to include my script and binaries when it builds the ramdisk, then throw the rootfs away.
02:31<twb>And then boot with boot=myscript
02:31<twb>But that's more fiddly and unsexy
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02:33<madvilain>hi
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02:36<madvilain_>hi
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05:05<deavidsedice>what should i do if i want postgresql 9.3 in Debian Stable?
05:05<deavidsedice>i see it jumps from 9.1 to 9.4
05:05<deavidsedice>9.4 is in testing ,and 9.1 is in stable. I would like to have latest 9.3, like it was packaged for debian stable
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05:08<weasel>the postgres people provide packages.
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05:11<deavidsedice>ok, thank you; i found them
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07:23<zhoux>Hi,anyone here?
07:23<oskie>how do you answer debconf questions from the command line? E.g. the timezone question by tzdata
07:24<Brigo>oskie, with tab, arrows and enter.
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07:38<oskie>Brigo: on 253 servers?
07:38<oskie>or I just say, N servers, where N >= 50
07:38<Brigo>oskie, that is new! :D
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07:38<jm_>oskie: perhaps man debconf-set-selections
07:39<oskie>ah, ok, nice thanks
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07:41<jm_>np
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07:46<oskie>does anyone know how to dpkg-reconfigure a package without getting any questions? The issue is that if I use noninteractive debconf frontend, it somehow resets the answers to defaults
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07:51<jm_>even if you use debconf-set-selections and dpkg-reconfigure -u?
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07:53<oskie>yeah, I'm doing: echo "tzdata tzdata/Areas select Etc" | debconf-set-selections; echo "tzdata tzdata/Zones/Etc select UTC" | debconf-set-selections; dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive tzdata -- and I'm still in Etc/GMT afterwards
07:54<oskie>however, echo "Etc/UTC" > /etc/timezone ; dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive tzdata seems to work better though
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07:58<jm_>how about dpkg-reconfigure -u -fnoninteractive tzdata
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08:29<planetmaker>I need some help with using duplicity. I try to backup a home dir to an external disk attached via USB. However I fail to do so while I believe I followed the man page example: https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pwkp9kogu/lpw5dg Any pointers as to where I go wrong?
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08:50<petn-randall>planetmaker: /media/bc129651-181d-4e20-0acb90715572/backup and /media/bc129651-181d-4e20-a4d7-0acb90715572/backup are different directories, compare the strings.
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08:51<petn-randall>planetmaker: the 2nd one has an extra "a4d7-" in it.
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08:51<planetmaker>hm that's why. doh! thanks
08:52<planetmaker>and I can swear I used c&p for that cryptic ID...
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09:05<shelimov>Hello guys. Does anyone have R9 290 amd card?
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09:06<petn-randall>!anyone
09:06<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
09:06<wompa>!anyone
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09:18<shelimov>I have AMD R9 290 GPU and is exepriencing very low FPS in comparison with Windows. What am I doing wrong?
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09:18<shelimov>I have installed last fglrx driver.
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09:22<n>you know how on laptops, you can tap the touchpad and it simulates a left mouse button click, how do you know if your laptop is capable and then enable it in debian. I have a thinkpad t42
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09:33<sney>n: https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad
09:33<dfiore>Hello, I have a question regarding debian testing and systemd. Until Debian Wheezy, I could use interactive boot scripts at /etc/rc.local. Now, on Debian Jessie, I can no longer use those interactive scripts. Is there a migration guide or a standard way of performing this task for Debian Jessie onward? Thanks in advance.
09:35<Brigo>dfiore, why do you say you can use /etc/rc.local ?
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09:36<Brigo>dfiore, it is an rc-local.service for compatibility.
09:38<dfiore>Brigo, on jessie, the script is executed if set up correctly through rc.local, but is no longer interactive. e.g. the bash line "read -p 'Enter file path' file_path" doesn't work.
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09:40<Brigo>dfiore, i think your better bet is to ask in debian-systemd or if not in debian-next (channel support for jessie and sid)
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09:40<trico>what can i use besides icedove? it gobbles memory and i feel like ive tried everything at this point, im about to uninstall it
09:40<Brigo>i think you will need to create a unit.
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09:41<Brigo>trico, evolution, kmail, ....
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09:41<dfiore>Brigo, thanks.
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09:41<trico>Brigo: thanks, ill try some of those
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09:42<Brigo>trico, and balsa for gnome.
09:43<n>sney, thx
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09:46<n>yep, just had to click enable touch click in gnome settings, sweet
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09:47<TobiX>dfiore: Interactive services are kinda hard when scripts can run in parallel. You should probably use an input demultiplexer like plymouth
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09:49<n>I am having trouble enabling the full version of gnome, my gnome-sesssion variable is 'gnome' not 'gnome-fallback' but I don't see to have all those 3d effects.
09:49<TobiX>dfiore: See http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PasswordAgents/ for example
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09:51<n>glxinfo says 'direct rendering'
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09:51<dfiore>Tobix, thanks, I wiil check that out as well.
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09:53<TobiX>n: What is the vendor in glxinfo?
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09:53<n>Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
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09:56<n>TobiX, Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
09:56<towo`>lspci | grep -i vga
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09:57<n> Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV200 [Mobility Radeon 7500]
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09:57<towo`>n, then you use not the right driver
09:57<towo`>n paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
09:57<n>towo`, no way
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09:59<towo`>no way what?
10:00<n>http://paste.debian.net/128323/
10:00<n>towo`, I mean to express, I am surprised to learn I am using the wrong driver, thx for letting me know
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10:01<towo`>n that'S not the complete log
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10:03<n>http://paste.debian.net/128328/
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10:04<towo`>hm, logfile looks right
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10:05<n>In the end I am gonna end up apt-get purge gnome; apt-get install gnome
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11:05<ovanu>When trying to zgrep through a very large gzip file I find the error message "Memory exhausted". The size of the file is ~20GB and I'm searching for a specific file. Is there a way to use bzgrep, zgrep, zcat or the like without having my memory maxed out to do this process?
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11:09<retrospectacus>ovanu: you could try zcat |grep ... what grep options are you using? How much ram do you have?
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11:10<ovanu>retrospectus: I tried this command: zcat mybackupfile.gz | grep '*.key|*.cert' and currently have 16GB of RAM available.
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11:11<retrospectacus>grep searches the content of files, not the names
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11:16<retrospectacus>try zcat mybackupfile.gz | grep -e '\.key|\.cert'
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11:17<retrospectacus>the * are not meaningful (possibly break it) and you need -e to use | (or use \|)
11:19<ovanu>retrospectus: Thanks for the information but it seems even with my syntax corrected from the zcat command you proviced that I still run into the memory exhaustion issue.
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11:20<retrospectacus>zcat file.gz > /dev/null # does too?
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11:22<ovanu>retrospectacus: testing that now
11:22<n>I re-installed gnome, but still I am stuck in fallback mode
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11:31<ovanu>retrospectacus: zcat file.gz > /dev/null | grep -e '\.key|\.cert' ?
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11:37<duclicsic>ovanu: is this a gzip of a single file, or is it a tar.gz or similar with multiple files in it?
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11:40<ovanu>duclicsic: It has multiple files and directories in it. The archive was created and compressed with the tar utility.
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11:41<duclicsic>and you are trying to find a particular filename? or are you looking at the contents for the files for a string?
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11:42<peter1138>you probably want to use tar, on a tar file...
11:42<duclicsic>you can list the files in a tar archive with "tar tf filename" and you can just grep that output for the file you're looking for
11:43<duclicsic>this works even if it has been compressed with gzip
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12:02<[E]sc>i'm on wheezy 7.6 amd64 - kernel 3.2.0-4 trying to get my sound card work, FCH Azalia Controller, but i can't seem to get it working correctly. any suggestions? i tried looking at the https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA
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12:09<gaffa>[E]sc; run aplay -l and see what it says.
12:09<Brigo>[E]sc, did you have pulseaudio package installed?
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12:11<[E]sc>gaffa, it gives me a list of playback hardware devices, 4 of which are HDMI on my nvidia card, and 2 of which are the digital and analog of ALC887-VD
12:11<[E]sc>Brigo, yes i have that installed already.
12:12<Brigo>then may be you are using pulseaudio, not asla, try to configure it.
12:12<[E]sc>when i run lspci -v it says that capabilities access denied for audio device kernel used snd_hda_intel
12:12<gaffa>[E]sc; Then you can try to run aplay -D <nameofdevice> <audiofile> and see if you get sound.
12:13<Brigo>[E]sc, are you root?
12:13<gaffa>VLC should also let you choose freely among audio output, if you already have that installed.
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12:17<[E]sc>gaffa, i have vlc installed, i tried cycling through my options for audio output module but didn't have any luck.
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12:17<[E]sc>Brigo, i have super powers
12:17<[E]sc>Brigo, i've been added to audio in groups.
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12:18<Brigo>and it was enough.
12:18<gaffa>[E]sc; In my experience you need to stop the playback and start it again after changing audio output. You do it in the menu and not in settings, right?
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12:19<gaffa>I think that your problem is a matter of setting your soundcard to be the default.
12:20<[E]sc>gaffa, i changed the settings via Tools-> Preferences->Audio i even restarted the vlc just in case.
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12:21<gaffa>[E]sc; Try to change it using the sound menu instead and then stop and play.
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12:31<[E]sc>gaffa, i'm using KDE so I went to to the multimedia menu to open the Mixer and selected the sound card from the menu, but none of them worked
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12:34<kumul>does kfbsd use systemd as well?
12:34<gaffa>[E]sc; I ment in VLC. I don't know if the menu is called Sound or Audio, but you should use that. We need to solve the problem from the bottom... or try with aplay -D
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12:36<somiaj>kumul: no
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12:37<somiaj>kumul: it is integrated with the linux kernel, unsure if any plans will be made to port it (which I doubt)
12:37<kumul>thank you somiaj
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12:38<[E]sc>gaffa, i tried what you suggested, but it didn't produce any results.
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12:44<gaffa>[E]sc; That's a bit weird, since your card shows up with aplay -l. You can run the alsamixer command from a terminal and check the volume settings for the card.
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12:46<gaffa>[E]sc; It's also possible that pulseaudio is blocking the device, but I have no experience with pulseaudio. If it's possible to remove it, I would, and use dmix in ALSA instead.
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12:47<somiaj>gaffa: For people using pulseaudio pavucontrol is a good program to suggest. This allows them to control pulseaudio (volumes, cards, etc) from a de independent application.
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12:48<somiaj>gaffa: I agree with you ALSA + dmix is what I prefer, but try to let people use pulseaudio if that is what they want (though I think gnome installs it by default on wheezy)
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12:54<gaffa>somiaj; I'm not trying to force my views on anyone, which is why I state that "I would remove it". It sounds though that [E]sc has enough trouble getting audio to work at all.
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12:56<gaffa>It's likely that you can stop pulseaudio, to avoid it blocking the sound card, but I wouldn't know how :)
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13:07<ovanu>duclicsic: Thanks.
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13:32<godebian>need some help with debian drivers for Haswell ULT rev 0b
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13:37<godebian>any ?
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13:39<godebian>http://superuser.com/questions/778532/cant-install-graphics-driver-on-wheezy-using-inspiron-3537
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13:40<pimo>hi all
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13:40<godebian>hi
13:41<zerick>Has anybody used travis-ci.org to build debian packages ?
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13:41<pimo>someone knows why pepperflashplugin-nonfree isn't available for testing? https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=pepperflash
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13:42<[E]sc>gaffa, i tried ti get it working but it isn't producing any results, i have to hit the sack. thanks for your time and effort. maybe i'll try again tomorrow.
13:42<musca>godebian: the newer kernel from backports has a more modern kernel modul for your vga.
13:43<gaffa>[E]sc; No problem. I'm sorry we didn't get it the first time :)
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13:53<MagicalTurtleMan1>poo
13:53<MagicalTurtleMan1>turtles
13:53<MagicalTurtleMan1>troll
13:53<MagicalTurtleMan1>spoon
13:53<ansgar>!ops MagicalTurtleMan1
13:53<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ansgar complains about: MagicalTurtleMan1
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14:29<crunchbang>?
14:29<crunchbang>hi
14:29<crunchbang>hello
14:29<crunchbang>bitch`s
14:30<crunchbang>`-`
14:30<crunchbang>.-.
14:30<crunchbang>?v
14:30<crunchbang>sod
14:30<crunchbang>qew
14:30<crunchbang>erwr
14:30<crunchbang>fetg
14:30-!-crunchbang was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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14:32<FlowRiser>lol
14:32<FlowRiser>I guess that is what crunchbangs like
14:32<FlowRiser>Fast and impolite
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14:35<pimo>ahahahaha
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14:52<captnfab>I wonder if he really went to the pastebin to continue
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15:02<towski__>is the wpa_supplicant.service common
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15:04<peter1138>Common how?
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15:27<supaplex-mbp>apt-cdrom appears to want sr0 when I'm trying to use BD-1 image on a usb stick (it's sdc1). So far, every invocation of apt-cdrom assumes I want /dev/sr0. What else can I do?
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15:31<dondelelcaro>supaplex-mbp: you want the -d option of apt-cdrom, but you might have to configure it appropriate in /etc/fstab et al.
15:31<dondelelcaro>supaplex-mbp: unfortunately, I've personally not done a lot of work with apt-cdrom, so I'm not sure of what specifically you need to do
15:31<dondelelcaro>supaplex-mbp: the -m option may also be useful
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15:36<supaplex-mbp>I tried a few variations of that. For now, I installed a tiny httpd to serve these and added localhost to sources.list (and temp commented out sources unless it's security/volitile etc). After this batch installs, I'll revert and install any missing parts. :)
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15:59<demi>logging into freenode is the most annoying thing... it's not even recognizing my identify command
16:00<demi>just not even responding...
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16:01<demi>nvm... ugh
16:01<demi>got it
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16:09<Agnrs>Oi
16:10<Agnrs>??
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16:11<Agnrs>?
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16:11<Agnrs>algum servidor?
16:13<ompaul>!pt
16:13<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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16:24<demi>por favor use lol
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17:09<towski__>is there a way to disable /dev/input/event1
17:09<towski__>wonder if I can umount it
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17:10<towski__>geez grepping the linux kernel source takes a while
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17:11*DaracL suggests ag
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17:15<towski__>'Watching system buttons' doesn't seem to be part of the kernel
17:15<towski__>I guess it's part of the systemd-logind process
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17:22<dotut>hello i have a WD Black^2 drive..this is a 1TB drive with 120GB SSD all in one package...on Debian Jessie i only see the 120GB SSD
17:22<dotut>any of u have experience with these kinds of drives?
17:23<martingale>no experience with that kind of drive, but perhaps jessie does see it, but just doesn't automount it?
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17:24<dotut>martingale: thanks...no i only see one /dev/sdX
17:24<somiaj>dotut: is this a usb device? did you look at the output of demsg when you pluged it in?
17:25<dotut>somiaj: no this is a sata drive
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17:25<dotut>somiaj: yes, looked at dmesg output and only dev node it identifies is the 120GB ssd
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17:26<somiaj>look at what it says about what is attaced to the ata devices, it sometimes gives info without giving it a sdX device node
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17:29<dotut>somiaj: looking at it, don't see anything obvious...will upload the relevant portion of dmesg log
17:30<dotut>http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vvfs8XxJ
17:30<dotut>note this time i plugged into a USB to SATA adapter just to see the difference
17:32<somiaj>dotut: google gave me some hits that seem to say you need special windows software to openup access to the 1TB portion of the HD and then it creates a single disk that has some windows software to keep some software on the ssd and others on the normal HD. Looks like linux support for that is not around yet.
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17:33<dotut>somiaj: hmm yeah i think i saw the same pages you mention
17:33<somiaj>dotut: here is a video I found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzl-tzVP_bA and here is a forum post I found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190105
17:34<somiaj>dotut: sounds like a pita to get to work if you can to me.
17:34<dotut>somiaj: i am guessing these are standard ata commands that they use that i maybe able to replicate on linux
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18:32<canaima>Hola
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19:30<k-man>where do i go for guidance in making a patch for a package in debian?
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19:36<Brigo>k-man, debian-mentors, i think
19:36<k-man>thanks
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19:42<ki7mt>Is there an IRC channel for Debian mailing list issues ?
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21:47<DesertRock>This page: https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer says this is how I update flash player: update-flashplugin-nonfree --install however the command isn't found. Tips?
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21:50<dvs>as root?
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21:52<Arrowmaster>did you install the package first?
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21:54<DesertRock>Yeah, no output when I do it as root, I assume that is successful?
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21:56<ectospasm>DesertRock: check the exit status ("echo $?")
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21:56<ectospasm>If it's zero, it probably completed OK
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21:58<DesertRock>ectospasm, not sure exactly where I'd put the echo
21:59<ectospasm>in the same shell you ran update-flashplugin-nonfree, just after you execute that command
22:00<ectospasm>If you run another command in between, the exit status is lost
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22:00<DesertRock>Cool trick, its a 0, so I'll trust it
22:01<ectospasm>then again, I dunno if update-flashplugin-nonfree would return a nonzero exit status
22:02<ectospasm>If you run the command again, what's the exit status? Hopefully something different that basically says it didn't need to run.
22:02<ectospasm>Though updating Flash normally causes a lot of output, IIRC
22:02<ectospasm>I dunno, I haven't done that in a while
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22:04<DesertRock>I'm still not fully updated
22:05<DesertRock>exit status is always the same
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22:11<ectospasm>yeah, you should probably go with pepperflash anyhow, Adobe stopped providing anything other than security updates to Flash for Linux years ago.
22:14<somiaj>ectospasm: does anything besides chromium/chrome support pepper api?
22:14<somiaj>wasn't sure if iceweasel supported papi
22:15<ectospasm>somiaj: the new Opera does, but I don't think they've released it for Linux yet.
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22:21<ectospasm>(because Opera 22 or whatever is based on chromium)
22:21<DesertRock>Hm, it cannot locate the package, could've sworn I added the source correctly :\
22:22<DesertRock>My line in the sources file: deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main
22:23<ectospasm>DesertRock: you want nonfree there as well
22:23<ectospasm>for flashplugin-nonfree
22:23<DesertRock>ahha, thanks
22:24<ectospasm>DesertRock: non-free
22:24<ectospasm>I couldn't remember if it had the hyphen or not
22:26<DesertRock>everything else has a hyphen
22:26<DesertRock>Still not working
22:26<DesertRock>deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main non-free
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22:35<sney>,v flashplugin-nonfree
22:35<judd>Package: flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- wheezy/contrib: 1:3.2+wheezy1; jessie/contrib: 1:3.6; sid/contrib: 1:3.6
22:35<sney>^ it's in contrib.
22:36<sney>so you would need 'main contrib non-free' rather than just 'main non-free'
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22:41<YSB_hattrick>I've played around with Debian in Virtualbox. Is it possible to copy the current system to disk to replace Windows 7?
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22:42<somiaj>YSB_hattrick: yes, if you could get the file system you could just create a new filesystem and copy all the files over. You would then have to make it bootable.
22:43<sney>it might be a bit difficult for someone who hasn't tinkered with filesystems before... might be wiser to back up /home and your list of installed packages and just reproduce the system in a new install
22:43<sney>!aptitude clone
22:43<dpkg>To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
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22:49<YSB_hattrick>(thinking out loud): 1) boot VM to live image and copy / to external drive passed from host 2) wipe and partition drive with live USB environment 3) copy / over 4) install bootloader 5) boot and deal with driver breakage?
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22:50<sney>driver breakage is rarely a consideration in linux, even if you make a targeted initrd which I don't think the installer lets you anymore
22:51<sney>I would probably lean towards partclone over a filesystem copy... just that virtualbox does funny things sometimes
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22:53<somiaj>YSB_hattrick: the debian ekrnel should detect the new hardware and load teh corresponding driver
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22:54<somiaj>YSB_hattrick: and yes there may be nicer ways to do this that won't envovle the work of a direct copy
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