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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-11-02

---Logopened Sun Nov 02 00:00:01 2014
---Daychanged Sun Nov 02 2014
00:00<OERIAS>but i still use Android on my mobile
00:00<anonman>can't wait till everyone dumps windows for linux or mac
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00:01<anonman>so can I skip the configure network step?
00:01<shadow>probably
00:01<OERIAS>anonman, they will but the enterprise will still use windoze
00:01<OERIAS>Linux is quite common at berkeley
00:02<anonman>ok I will skip the configure network step, so it won't do any net install or updates then, just from the dvd
00:02<shadow>anonman: about the only things you absolutely have to do are to partition/format a place for the base system to be installed, and then when it is all done installing the base system you must make sure there is a boot loader to load it
00:02<anonman>sure
00:02<shadow>the rest is skip-able
00:02<shadow>also good idea to choose a secure root password when it asks you
00:02<anonman>do I need shadow passwords?
00:03<shadow>huh
00:03<somiaj>anonman: yes
00:03<shadow>I wonder why you are getting the 1990's installer treatment there
00:03<shadow>what hardware is this?
00:03<anonman>no idea just doing what the last guy said
00:03<somiaj>he chose expert mode to make sure he has all the options to set up the efi partition so it boots in another computer
00:03<anonman>he told me to do an expert install
00:03<shadow>ha, right
00:03<shadow>sounds like my time trying to install slackware 20 years ago
00:03<somiaj>when he did the normal install grub didn't make the drive bootable correctly
00:04<somiaj>anonman: so it asks you way more questions, for the most part the default answer is fine
00:04<anonman>ok I will say no then
00:04<anonman>on the shadow passwords
00:04<somiaj>no say yes to shadow passwords
00:04<somiaj>that should be the default
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00:04<anonman>yes is the default selected
00:04<anonman>but anyways say no?
00:04<somiaj>correct so say yes to shadow passwords
00:04<somiaj>I said choose the defaults for the most part
00:04<anonman>oh
00:05<anonman>allow login as root is defaulted to yes
00:05<anonman>select that?
00:05<somiaj>Up to you, but deafult of yes is decent choice
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00:05<anonman>ok
00:07<anonman>Ok I'm back at the partitions disks screen
00:08<anonman>so pick manual or guided?
00:09<somiaj>I'd try guided you can always come back if you don't like what it does
00:09<anonman>ok
00:09<anonman>ok my external hdd is on SCSI7
00:09<somiaj>main thing is use the external drive and make sure it is GPT parition table and have an efi partition
00:09<anonman>sdb so I will pick that
00:09<anonman>sure ok
00:10<anonman>I will pick my sdb device which is the seagate usb drive
00:10<anonman>all files in one partition default ok?
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00:19<anonman>anyone still here?
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00:23<alumno_>hola
00:24<anonman>alumno_: !es
00:24<anonman>alumno_: es!
00:24<anonman>!es
00:24<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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00:34<anonman>hello is anyone here anymore?
00:35<anonman>still stuck on how to get an efi partition
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00:39<anonman>i'll just come basck tomoorow
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00:40<SmitySmiter>hey guys, I'm trying to install Nemo File manager on Debian Wheezy (7.1) , using this tutorial : http://www.techlw.com/2013/12/install-nemo-file-manager-with.html
00:40<SmitySmiter>but I get the following error: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) but 2.13-38+deb7u6 is to be installed
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00:44<SmitySmiter>any help guys?
00:44<SmitySmiter>hey guys, I'm trying to install Nemo File manager on Debian Wheezy (7.1) , using this tutorial : http://www.techlw.com/2013/12/install-nemo-file-manager-with.html
00:44<SmitySmiter>but I get the following error: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) but 2.13-38+deb7u6 is to be installed
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00:47<somiaj>SmitySmiter: that error is saying the package you got is not compadable with debian wheezy and you do not want to upgrade your libc6
00:48<SmitySmiter>hmm
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00:48<somiaj>yea that page is very bad, it is never suggested to install a ubuntu package on debian (Even if the depends could be meat)
00:48<somiaj>,v nemo
00:48<judd>Package: nemo on i386 -- sid: 2.2.4-2; jessie: 2.2.4-2
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00:49<SmitySmiter>hmm, so is there a way I can get Nemo safely?
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00:49<somiaj>SmitySmiter: It may not be possible to get it on wheezy, but my suggestion would be compile your own package from the jessie package using the inf from the factoid /msg dpkg ssb
00:49<somiaj>It doesn't appear there is any premade binary for you, but you can always try to make your own on debian 7
00:50<SmitySmiter>all right, thank you :)
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01:34<OERIAS>raspbian
01:34<somiaj>!raspbian
01:34<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
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02:15<OERIAS>ubuntu
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02:45<OERIAS>linux mint
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03:37<sleser>is there a command that shows a history of all the apps have been installed on to the system after a clean install
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03:38<gypsy>try dpkg -l
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03:40<sleser>thanks
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04:01<OERIAS>embrace the true faith, use Ubuntu
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04:07<sleser>only if it stops internet activy in iftop when user playing around within his or her hd
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04:08<sleser>pass the msg to them also
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11:28<azulinox>buenas
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12:21<dxtr_>Hello
12:21<dxtr_>How are u ?
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12:31<s1na>hi
12:31<s1na>im having a relatively high cpu usage for kworker
12:32<s1na>an acpi gpe has a high value
12:32<s1na>unfortunately, im unable to disable it
12:33<s1na>when i enter "echo disable > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe18"
12:33<s1na>and check again
12:33<s1na>it starts from zero
12:33<s1na>but goes up quickly
12:33<s1na>how can i disable it?
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12:44<kmyst>i've got an "issue" i think running fsck on my fs...can somebody please provide insight? i'm not too sure what to do :)
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12:56<s1na>I think doing echo disabled > ... && echo disabled > ... does the trick, although i have no idea why.
12:56<s1na>im rebooting only to make sure.
12:56<s1na>thanks
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13:07<skyg4mb>Hello!
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13:12<lioh>Hello.
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13:48<anonman>hello I am having trouble installing debian on an external laptop hdd, that I will be inserting into an old macbook.
13:49<anonman>is there anyone here available to help me set up the efi and other partitions to debian 7 bootable on my computer?
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13:49<anonman>to get debian 7*
13:52<anonman>guess I'll have to come back another weekend...
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13:54<peter1138>I just installed it to a MacBook3,1, internal drive though.
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14:00<SuperSQL>Hello everyone, I have a problem with my Debian 6 Squeeze. I'm trying to install make and I get this error: http://pastebin.com/7RzGSxWL basically I get this for every install attempt
14:00<anonman>I'm using a maboon2,1
14:00<SuperSQL>... for any program
14:00<anonman>peter1138: could you walk me through how you did it?
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14:02<SuperSQL>Each time I do this it stopps MySQL server therefore I have to restart it because it was working just fine before
14:02<anonman>I'll just have to come back another time then, doesn't seem like there are a lot of people on debian irc anyways
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14:03<ompaul>SuperSQL: what is the output of apt-get update and apt-cache policy and the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list all in http://paste.debian.net because it sucks less no adverts
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14:04<SuperSQL>apt-get update is pretty normal and my sources is http://pastebin.com/XvPYJQ9T
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14:05<ompaul>I asked for three things in a different paste bin
14:05<ompaul>for reasons given
14:05<SuperSQL>and this is when I enter apt-cache policy http://pastebin.com/UNaeNQyJ
14:06<SuperSQL>oh sorry
14:06<SuperSQL>I'll repaste there
14:06<SuperSQL>http://paste.debian.net/129880/ for apt-cache policy
14:07<SuperSQL>sources: http://paste.debian.net/129881/
14:07<SuperSQL>and the main problem: http://paste.debian.net/129882/
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14:08<ompaul>SuperSQL: one thing at a time, your sources are not right. https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using
14:08<ompaul>that will give you a clue after that apt-get update && apt-get -d dist-upgrade
14:08<ompaul>then you can install them
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14:09<SuperSQL>alright, I'm updating with new sources
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14:10<ompaul>SuperSQL: given the patchy nature of the lts stuff would you think maybe it is time to move to 7
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14:10<SuperSQL>I will someday but not anytime soon
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14:11<SuperSQL>Problem is with time because I need to move alot of things
14:11<ompaul>well you know that squeeze proper is without support so less eyes and stuff
14:11<ompaul>SuperSQL: that is called planning
14:11<ompaul>if you are always in firefighting mode you need to ask yourself some question
14:11<ompaul>s
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14:14<SuperSQL>I did what you said about update and dist-upgrade, everything went well but problem still remains
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14:16<ompaul>SuperSQL: now what you do is take a couple of the packages and are named and do this apt-cache policy packagename
14:16<ompaul>do that for the packages that are failing
14:16<ompaul>and paste it up to for us
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14:19<SuperSQL>http://paste.debian.net/129885/
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14:20<ompaul>so it looks like you don't need innserv
14:20<ompaul>apt-get remove it and move on with your life
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14:20<ompaul>keep in mind that we don't expect squeeze to get any more than a year and a bit more
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14:20<ompaul>support
14:20<ompaul>so you should have your plan made for moving
14:22<SuperSQL>you mean by apt-get remove innserv well it can't locate package
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14:22<ompaul>why not
14:22<ompaul>what was done to stop it doing that
14:23<ompaul>apt-cache policy innserv please
14:23<SuperSQL>N: Unable to locate package innserv
14:23<ompaul>,innserv
14:23<ompaul>,v innserv
14:23<judd>No package named 'innserv' was found in i386.
14:23<ompaul>so where did that beast come from
14:24<peter1138>*insserv
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14:24<SuperSQL>not sure
14:25<SuperSQL>ah it is insserv
14:25<ompaul>my typo
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14:25<ompaul>,v insserv
14:25<judd>Package: insserv on i386 -- squeeze: 1.14.0-2; squeeze-backports: 1.14.0-2.2~bpo60+1; jessie: 1.14.0-5; sid: 1.14.0-5; wheezy: 1.14.0-5; experimental: 1.16.0-5
14:26<ompaul>there isn't one in lts
14:26<SuperSQL>sorry for not noticing you peter1138
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14:27<peter1138>,v ehcp
14:27<judd>No package named 'ehcp' was found in i386.
14:27<peter1138>^
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14:29<peter1138>easy hosting control panel?
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14:29<ompaul>on a vps
14:29<ompaul>oh lovely
14:29*ompaul abandons hope
14:32<SuperSQL>well I don't really have the time to install everything from scratch and edit ftp, domain, dns... from ssh
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14:33<peter1138>Ok but you understand that that is not part of debian and is not supportable here
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14:35<peter1138>the error message give you a clue where to look to at least work around it though
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14:42<SuperSQL>oh didn't think this was part of ehcp, I thought this was more of a general problem
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15:32<HFSPLUS>what up debian on oftc
15:32<HFSPLUS>i will prob be banned
15:32<HFSPLUS>but whats up
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15:37<sonico>hola
15:37<sonico>hay alguien ahi?
15:37<sonico>holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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15:38<sonico>contesten¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
15:40<sonico>:'(
15:40<gypsy>sonico -> #debian-es
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15:42<sonico>hablenmen¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¿¿¡¿¿¿
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15:45<babilen>dpkg: es-social
15:45<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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15:57<qmi>in english , please
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17:46<matanya>Hello, sometimes i see packages that are not updated to latest upstream release, is it ok to open a bug requesting update latest release ?
17:48<devil>matanya: that depends on the time passed and other things
17:48<mtn>matanya: which version of debian?
17:48<matanya>sid
17:50<matanya>devil , mtn: e.g https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=767848 i opened it, and then thought maybe it is discouraged
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17:50<matanya>so i came to ask here
17:51<mtn>matanya: sid support is on #debian-next, by the way. I suspect the maintainers work as fast as they can or want to, though ;)
17:51<matanya>so opening such bugs are useless ?
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17:52<devil>matanya: there is no rule to it. I sometimes inform maintainers directly
17:52<devil>depends on package, maintainer, package etc
17:52<matanya>I see
17:52<devil>kind of a sensible issue
17:53<matanya>i'm a long term user of debian (maily stable on prod machines) but on the desktop use arch, so i decide to contribute some back
17:53<matanya>didn't know the policy diff between arch and debian in term of such reports
17:53<matanya>thanks for your replys
17:54<devil>matanya: wishlist should not hurt, if you have no criteria to decide otherwise
17:54<matanya>OK, i'll keep it as whishlist
17:54<devil>some maintainers are thankfull, others feels pressured....
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17:55<matanya>i guess most of them don't follow upstream 24/7 :)
17:55<user32>hello
17:55<user32>brasil
17:55<user32>?
17:55<devil>!pt
17:55<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
17:56<user32>ae
17:56<user32>alguem aque
17:56<user32>e do brasil
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17:57<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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18:00<tim>-n cooliasto
18:01<tim>anyone hear successfully installed steam
18:01<devil>never tried
18:03<mtn>tim: works fine on jessie
18:04<tim>idk i had trouble with it on wheezy
18:04<tim>how'd you install it
18:05<mtn>tim: don't think you can install it on wheezy, or not easily. it is easy in jessie, it is in the repos
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18:06<tim>oh really, id figure it would work on the older version lol
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18:07<HFSPLUS>!ops
18:07<dpkg>Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
18:07<HFSPLUS>dpkg: ops suck my dick
18:07<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: hfsplus complains about: suck my dick
18:07<HFSPLUS>dpkg: ops suck my dick
18:07<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: hfsplus complains about: suck my dick
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18:10<tim>i dont understand how to upgrade wheezy to jessie
18:11<yOweLL>hello
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18:11<tim>ik i have to change stable to jessie in /etc/apt/sources.list
18:11<tim>but i dont have anything typed as stable
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18:13<macaroni>just compiled and packaged upstream kernel (3.17) for my sid install using the same process ive used 5 or 6 time to compile upstream kernels. once i installed the kernel rebooted and new kernel was not in grub. afterwards i downloaded and installed the 3.16 kernel from the repo and its not showing up in grub either. The only thing thats changed since the last time i compiled is that i recently implemented systemd on this install
18:13<macaroni>, The guys from the systemd channel seem sure its not a systemd issue. Any ideas?
18:14<mtn>!tell tim about testing
18:16<mtn>macaroni: I don't believe systemd touches grub in any way. must a problem with your grub config. did you run update-grub?
18:16<mentor>macaroni: Do you see the kernels being listed if you run update-grub
18:16<mentor>?
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18:19<macaroni>update-grub command not found with or without sudo
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18:20<mentor>macaroni: Is grub installed?
18:20<macaroni>ran grub-mkconfig and still no help
18:20<macaroni>yes grub is installed
18:21<mentor>update-grub should be part of grub2-common
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18:23<vredinka>ghb
18:23<abrotman>Debian
18:24<vredinka>ку ку
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18:24<vredinka>меня кто то видет?
18:24<abrotman>vredinka: English here
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18:25<vredinka>я по русски только
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18:26<macaroni>well.. did dpkg-query -l | grep grub2-common and got no results, so how am i booting if i dont have grub installed?
18:26<abrotman>vredinka: This channel is for Debian support, perhaps you want #debian-ru, or speak English here.
18:26<abrotman>!ru
18:26<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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18:27<mentor>macaroni: Because grub gets installed in the boot records
18:28<ChoiKyuSang>!kr
18:28<dpkg>somebody said kr was Korea (South)
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18:30<macaroni>ah, thats a quandry, i have grub2 pinned because of grave bug, any other options?
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18:31<mentor>macaroni: There should be some update grub script installed somewhere
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18:33<macaroni>ok thanks, that gives me a direction
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21:08<sleser>does magic jack work on debian
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21:17<mentor>sleser: Magic jack?
21:17<sleser>i got it working
21:18<sleser>majicjack for fone service
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21:18<mentor>Does magicjack otherwise support Linux?
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21:20<mentor>That looks like just a basic telephony adapter
21:20<mentor>So, probably everything that you pay for is done is software
21:20<mentor>So I doubt it
21:21<mentor>sleser: Linux supports lots and lots of VoIP hardware and software in general
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21:25<mentor>sleser: There are also lots of VoIP service providers around as well
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21:26<sleser>yeh i got one
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21:28<mentor>sleser: Is the piece of hardware just a telephony adapter?
21:28<sleser>yeh
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21:29<mentor>I'm not sure, but there's a chance it will just be a generic device and work perfectly as such
21:30<sleser>looks good
21:30<sleser>alot of options to choose from anywhere from home fone and sell fone
21:30<sleser>cheep too
21:30<sleser>brb
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21:32<sleser>for some reason iceweasel isnt showing me a resigster form corectly
21:32<sleser>i see a blank space but no description
21:32<sleser>only in this site . anyother sites work
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21:36<sleser>can some one take a look see why , http://picpaste.com/upload.php
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21:37<sleser>sorry here http://picpaste.com/snapshot8-kxt43x1h.png
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21:40<mentor>sleser: Sorry, their TLS ciphers are too weak to access it
21:41<sleser>whois ?
21:41<mentor>majickjack.com
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21:41<sleser>to acces debian ?
21:42<sleser>i wanted to register the device now
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