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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-11-05

---Logopened Wed Nov 05 00:00:33 2014
---Daychanged Wed Nov 05 2014
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00:43<w7Ls0n>hi!
00:43<w7Ls0n>asl plz?
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04:28<peter1138>Hmm, any known issues running rsyslog accepting remote logs, in an lxc container (full guest)?
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04:29<jm_>maybe it's clashing with the host rsyslog if that one too is accepting remote logs
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04:30<peter1138>It's not, plus it's a separate IP address (bridged networking)
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04:30<peter1138>Hmm, well, it's stopped logging. :S
04:32<peter1138>Hmm, it's not even logging the local logs, but it's still running, and some of the modified timestamps are recent, desite the log entries stopping at the same time.
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04:34<AnonWarlord>Hello Meow
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04:35<jm_>that happened to my brother with chroot when upgrading packages since some dirs where socket is are bind mounted in chroot (/dev), no idea if that's the case with lxc too
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04:38<peter1138>Hmm, found something that sounds vaguely similar, where the solution given is "upgrade rsyslog" :(
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04:40<peter1138>I have exactly the same rsyslog set up on 2 other machines which work fine, "only" difference is they're not under lxc (so no network bridge either)
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05:16<xxxx>good morning
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05:32<peter1138>Hmm, stopped again.
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06:04<peter1138>Hmm, so it stopped again. Seems to happen (usually) at about 2 minutes past. This is when logcheck runs on many things... ...
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06:18<peter1138>Hmm, already got wheezy-backports in, so I will try upgrading it :S
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08:03<peter1138>Hmm, seems to have resolved it, guess I will need to wait a bit longer though.
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08:09<jtornero>Hello all. I'm havin some trouble installing 7.7: some packages are corrupt, despite md5sum is ok in downloaded images. In one case, the image was able to install before
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08:10<jtornero>is there any way for downloading such packages instead of getting them from de dvd/cdrom?
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08:13<jm_>jtornero: how exactly are they corrupt then? are you saying images are broken?
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08:15<jtornero>Don't know. I just get the messages while installing base system. And not able to continue
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08:16<peter1138>If you're actually using CDs, then it's not impossible for there to be read errors.
08:16<jm_>maybe if you provide exact error and also check tty3/4 and you can inspect things manually on tty2
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08:16<jtornero>I'll try
08:16<peter1138>That said, it's been a long time since I saw a CDROM drive that didn't flag up errors properly.
08:16<jtornero>a pastebin is ok?
08:16<jm_>sure
08:17<jm_>make sure to check on tty3/4 too immediately after you get the error
08:17<peter1138>paste.debian.net
08:17<jtornero>I'll try in some minutes
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08:30<jtornero>Hello again, I copied the output from tty4 here http://paste.debian.net/130381
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08:31<jm_>I have to go now but "Now the error comes with libept1.4.12_1.0.9_i386" - where is this error?
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08:32<jm_>wait for someone else to pick this up
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08:34<jtornero>jm_ the error raises when installing the base system. I'm installing with graphical installer.
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10:01<xdroop>Hello
10:01<xdroop>I have a login problem related to Kerberos, is this a suitable place to ask or should I ask elsewhere?
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10:03<Brigo>xdroop, if you use debian you can try.
10:03<xdroop>This is a debian question.
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10:03<xdroop>I already have teh config working on C5 and C6.
10:04<xdroop>OK. So I am using Kerberos against an AD server for authentication, and NIS for information. LDAP is not configured.
10:04<xdroop>I can kinit user credentials from teh AD server.
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10:05<xdroop>When I log into the console or through ssh, the auth log seems to imply a kerberos success, but both teh login and ssh sessions fail with fatal: Access denied for user $USER by PAM account configuration [preauth]
10:05<xdroop>or
10:06<xdroop>or pam_krb5(login:auth): pam_sm_authenticate: exit (success)
10:06<xdroop>followed by login[2961]: Authentication failure
10:06<xdroop>So I'm not sure if this is a PAM problem, or a Kerberos problem, or something else.
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10:06<Brigo>xdroop, wheezy ?
10:06<xdroop>7.7
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10:06<xdroop>I am new to Debian
10:07<xdroop>Also: from root I can su - $USER and everything works
10:07<xdroop>I just can't log in as that user.
10:08<Brigo>xdroop, i think i cannot help you. I do not know what is c5,c6 or ad ..
10:08<xdroop>c5/c6: centos5/6
10:08<xdroop>AD = Active Directory
10:08<xdroop>However since it works on Centos5/6 this has to be a configuration problem on my debian system.
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10:08<xdroop>but thanks for looking.
10:09<Brigo>mmm, i have never used AD nor centos...
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10:10<Brigo>xdroop, it could be some else can help you. If no asking try in freenode.
10:10<xdroop>thanks
10:10<xdroop>I'll keep circulating.
10:10<kklimonda>xdroop: maybe you do some filtering in your ldap config?
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10:10<xdroop>kklimonda: no LDAP config.
10:10<xdroop>Kerberos and NIS only.
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10:11<kklimonda>xdroop: tbh I'd suggest taking a look at realmd and sssd
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10:11<xdroop>sssd didn't seem to have NIS configuraiton options.
10:12<kklimonda>I've just integrated a number of ubuntu VMs with Windows Server 2012 AD with those, and it has been a breeze
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10:12<kklimonda>it does have "AD" provider though
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10:13<xdroop>k thanks
10:13<mullein>xdroop: https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/Kerberos might help also, look at the PAM section
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10:14<xdroop>yes I looked at that
10:14<mullein>or this? https://wiki.debian.org/AuthenticatingLinuxWithActiveDirectory
10:14<xdroop>the world seems to want me to do LDAP/Kerberos, not NIS/Kerberos
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10:14<xdroop>yeah I don't think winbind is what I want
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10:14<kklimonda>yeah, NIS is pretty outdated
10:15<xdroop>it is
10:15<willemb>Is Debian shipping php 5.4.34 a sign of things to come?
10:15<willemb>ie, are we tracking php upstream now, with an update every month?
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10:16<Brigo>,v php5
10:16<judd>Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3-7+squeeze22; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u14; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u14; wheezy-security: 5.4.34-0+deb7u1; sid: 5.6.2+dfsg-1; jessie: 5.6.2+dfsg-1
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10:16<nox_debian>,v mldonkey
10:16<judd>No package named 'mldonkey' was found in i386.
10:17<Brigo>willemb, it looks like a security update
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10:17<Brigo>nox_debian, it is called mldonkey-server
10:17<nox_debian>,v mlsonkey-server
10:17<mullein>it is a security update but it goes from 5.3 to 5.4 afaict, the DSA announcement says that the new version of php5 has incompatible changes.
10:17<judd>No package named 'mlsonkey-server' was found in i386.
10:17<nox_debian>,v mldonkey-server
10:17<judd>Package: mldonkey-server on i386 -- squeeze: 3.0.3-4; wheezy: 3.1.2-1; sid: 3.1.5-2+b2; jessie: 3.1.5-2+b2
10:18<nox_debian>,v thanks-brigo2.0
10:18<judd>No package named 'thanks-brigo2.0' was found in i386.
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10:18<mullein>fwiw: "It has been decided to follow the stable 5.4.x releases for the Wheezy PHP packages. Consequently the vulnerabilities are addressed by upgrading PHP to a new upstream version 5.4.34, which includes additional bug fixes, new features and possibly incompatible changes."
10:18<nox_debian>how does judd work
10:18<willemb>hmmm. usually, we would get 5.4.4-14+deb7u15
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10:19<willemb>mullein: hence my question. Can I expect to have to upgrade to php5.4.35 this time next month?
10:19<Brigo>xD
10:19<mullein>though why does judd say that wheezy-security is 5.4.4-14+deb7u14 when the DSA announcement this week says that the new version is 5.4.34-0+deb7u1
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10:20<mullein>willemb, i wonder that too now. i may find the mailing-list discussion where they decided on this change to see if that helps predict future release behavior
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10:21<willemb>yeah, i'm hunting for that myself
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10:23<dynamo2013>ciao a tutti
10:23<dynamo2013>!list
10:23<dpkg>dynamo2013: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più.
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10:25<Brigo>nox_debian, it is a bot you can /query it. And use help then
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10:28<mullein>willemb: i don't see anything on http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-php-maint/ that indicates their reasoning. maybe the discussion took place wholly on irc?
10:29<willemb>maybe
10:29<willemb>i guess we'll for sure in about a month
10:29<mullein>i imagine that the package should only get updated for wheezy if there are CVE ids announced for php5
10:30<mullein>though it seems rather bold to potentially make incompatible changes to php5 in a stable release
10:30<peter1138>php 5.4.4 to 5.4.34, not 5.3
10:30<mullein>peter1138: i was trying to find out what the previous version was, the changelog on the wheezy php5 page is broken
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10:31<mullein>so thank you for sharing that!
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10:32<peter1138>It is normal that changelogs don't appear for security updates (I don't know the reason)
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10:41<petn-randall>Normally, in stable there should never be some API/ABI/behaviour changing updates. Sometimes the changes are too invasive, and the upstream version that fixes the issue gets pulled in.
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10:43<petn-randall>It can be the case that there are no details on the security vulnerability until a few days after widespread deployment. But PHP has a rather bad track record with handling security issues, so no idea what is going on there.
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10:43<mullein>peter1138: looking at wget, it seems that updating the package shows a changelog entry; /usr/share/doc/wget/changelog.Debian.gz shows the same changelog entry; but the debian changelog link on https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/wget is broken.
10:44<mullein>if i can find out where best to report that, i will.
10:46<peter1138>Have you actually seen the php5 changelog?
10:47<mullein>i hadn't but am looking at it now
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10:48<peter1138>Ok.
10:48<mullein>in /usr/share/doc/php5, not the broken link on the site.
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10:59<Jack>bcache-tools has been in sid for 7 days so it's too young to be promoted to testing before tonight's freeze. One of the maintainers suggested I ask on a suitable channel on OFTC if it is possible to make an exception for this package. Is this the right channel to ask at?
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11:00<mullein>jack, i think #debian-next is the channel for testing, not sure if that's the devs though
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11:05<Jack>mullein, thanks, I will try that #debian-next
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11:21<swagmaster>hi
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11:31<petn-randall>swagmaster: Do you need any help regarding Debian?
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12:46<sasha>Holaaa
12:46<jmlongo_>hola sasha
12:47<sasha>Como Andas?
12:47<sasha>Jaja
12:47<centrx>!es
12:47<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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13:47<rionmlg>hi im using rescatux
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13:48<rionmlg>for repair grub ... i select my distro but... i have too installed windows
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13:48<rionmlg>i first select my distro but... in with hard disk installing grub_
13:49<rionmlg>in windows hard disk? or in my hard disk with linux?
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14:11<gypsy>Marillion: saving the bios config, resetting to default, then reloading the old settings got me nproc=2. i can't for the life of me explain why.
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14:12<gypsy>literally running the exact same settings, zero change.. but now it's two procs. intel board, 'intel' bios.
14:14<xdroop>Hi root
14:14<xdroop>Hi room
14:14<xdroop>I have a system using Kerberos for authentication and NIS for information.
14:15<xdroop>If I su - $USER to a Kerberos/NIS user, it works.
14:15<xdroop>if I login or try an SSH session, it doesn't.
14:15<xdroop>Unless: there is an entry for the user in /etc/shadow.
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14:15<xdroop>...which more or less totally defeats the purpose of using NIS.
14:16<xdroop>Is there a way to remove this dependency on /etc/shadow?
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14:37<Marillion>gypsy: no idea, broken core or unless turboboost function
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14:55<Macario>hola
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14:55<Macario>hola
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14:56<jmlongo_>hola
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14:56<Macario>es la primera vez q ingreso .de tratan en esta sala
14:57<jmlongo_>soporte para debian estable ... pero en ingles...
14:57<jmlongo_>!es
14:57<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
14:57<Macario>estoy en las nuvebes
14:57<jmlongo_>;)
14:57<Macario>ok
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14:59<ArtooDetoo>If I enable issue_discards in the lvm.conf for TRIM, do I still have to enable it in the fstab?
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15:04<halo>hello, i'm not able to start gdm3/gnome anymore, error i have in Xorg.log is "failed to set drm interface version"
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15:05<devil>halo: pastebin the whole xorg.0.log please
15:05<halo>i'm able instead to start lxde
15:06<halo>devil: just a moment i'm on console atm, i need to start lxde
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15:12<gics>devil, here is --> http://paste.debian.net/130442/
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15:12<gics>devil, thanks for your patience
15:14<jordanm>gics: what model is your video card?
15:14<halo>exit
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15:14<devil>jordanm: is that dual-graphics?
15:14<gics>jordanm, is a "GeForce 8600M GS" nvidia
15:15<devil>err
15:15<devil>gics: ^
15:15<gics>i saw problem happens mainly with bumblebee, but i haven't a dual card
15:15<jordanm>gics: technically supported
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15:15<jordanm>gics: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/TroubleShooting/#index1h3
15:15<devil>gics: did you have the nvidia-driver installed before?
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15:16<gics>devil, yes but always used nouveau instead
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15:16<devil>gics: is nouveau maybe still blacklisted or not all parts of nvidia removed?
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15:17<gics>devil, i have removed the blacklist file in modprobe, but how am i sure to have removed ALL parts of nvidia driver?
15:17<devil>gics: dpkg -l | grep nvidia will show you
15:17<gics>where should i check?
15:17<gics>ok
15:18<EmleyMoor>Has jessie frozen?
15:19<towo`>gics, dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
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15:19<gics>towo`, thx i'm just checking what rc means :P
15:20<gics>it appears i have many nvidia packages to remove too
15:20<towo`>rc, you havn't used purge
15:20<towo`>so all configs are in the system
15:21<devil>while the package itself is gone
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15:21<towo`>can we see the ouput?
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15:22<gics>here is --> http://paste.debian.net/130445/
15:23<gics>so, the problem now is to locate every single conf file and delete it
15:23<towo`>apt-get purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/nvidia/{ print $2 }')
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15:23<gics>"print $2" stay for?
15:24<towo`>dpkg --purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{ print $2 }')
15:24*dpkg drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up $(dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{ print $2 }') all over towo` and eric...
15:24<gics>towo`, i need to write both of them or only the last?
15:24<towo`>gics, both
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15:26<gics>towo`, done!
15:26<gics>dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia give me no more results
15:26<dpkg>No packages found matching | grep -i nvidia give me no more results
15:26<gics>ops
15:26<towo`>gics, dpkg -l | grep bumble
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15:27<gics>no results
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15:27<gics>time to test gdm?
15:27<towo`>gics, no, reboot
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15:28<gics>ok, see you soon
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15:31<jean_>slt
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15:32<gics>i'm back to gnome! thank you to all
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15:33<gics>now the question is, there is a place where those 2 command are written? just in the case it happens again in the future...
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15:36<devil>gics: copy them someplace
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15:37<devil>gics: and use apt-get purge, if you want to remove everything, incl. conf files
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15:38<gics>devil, i'm justing pasting them in a gnote with the whole procedure, badly .it wiki doesn't mention them
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15:39<gics>and yes, especially with driver things i should always use the purge, the fact is i'm also scared to broke something else, or to remove wanted .deb
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15:40<Thomas_>Anyone know how to fix the folder with question mark at startup?
15:40<devil>gics: debs are easy to replace
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15:40<gics>devil, that's also true :)
15:40<devil>custom configs would be worse
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15:42<gics>devil, i'm a old debian user (like from potato +o-) and sometimes i saw removed the whole gnome because the purge option :)
15:42<gics>devil, is just for that, but are totally right
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15:42<gics>*you are
15:42<devil>gics: apt tells you if it removes stuff, you need to read before hitting enter
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15:43<somiaj>also note aptitude will automatically remove auto installed packages (so if you remove the gnome meta package aptitude will remove lots of gnome)
15:43<gics>let's say that with big list i tend to hit enter more than read :)
15:43<somiaj>apt-get on the other hand requires you run apt-get autoremove to do that, so it won't remove as much stuff (not sure if that is the deal or not)
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15:45<gics>however thanks again to all who helped...now it's time to write down how it was done ;)
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15:53<gypsy>Marillion: no turboboost on c2d e8500 as far as i know.. as for broken core, it certainly works now. ah well, works now & i'm happy. thanks for the help/audience
15:54<marius_k>hello! how do I install morse-simulator? Debian testing dependencies say that it needs blender 2.72, but "morse check" says that it needs >=2.63 & <2.72 version. When using stable repository, blender 2.63 gets installed, but morse-simulator then requires blender <2.63 . . .
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15:57<marius_k>can I intentionally break dependencies and install blender(stable) + morse-simulator(testing)
15:57<centrx>marius_k, That would be unwise
16:00<Guest563>hi all, how to remove beep sound when shutdown the computer. 10x
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16:01<marius_k>but it looks like debian dependencies are bad
16:01<centrx>?
16:02<centrx>Guest563, Disabling the PC Speaker should do it
16:02<centrx>Guest563, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_PC_speaker_beep
16:02<somiaj>yea if is is the pcspkr (module) just blacklist that module
16:02<marius_k>morse-simulator(testing) depends on blenderv2.72(testing) but it doesnt work with blender v2.72
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16:03<marius_k>morse-simulator(stable) depends on blenderv2.63(stable) but it doesnt work with blender v2.63
16:03<centrx>marius_k, Is there a bug report for that?
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16:03<marius_k>there was a similar one
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16:04<centrx>marius_k, The rest of your system is testing?
16:04<awal>Apart abiword, is there any lightweight word processor for use on laptop with limited ressources?
16:05<somiaj>awal: learn tex (well latex) and use typsetting. (:
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16:05<marius_k>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751901
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16:05<marius_k>the rest is stable with some testing parts
16:06<somiaj>awal: for word processing I don't think you will get much lighter than abiword (y ou ignore all the gnome depends), kde might have a light weight word processor. But if you are needing to be more compadable with certain file formats that may be your choice in the end.
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16:07<Guest576>hi people, a hug for everyone
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16:09<awal>somiaj, is for use under openbox/fluxbox (no gnome/kde here). i think abiword is the lightest. But what you mean by learn tex? confused, sorry; the exact name of the app?
16:09<Guest576>I am here because I have a problem and I dont know how to solve, but I have an idea to implement on console
16:10<somiaj>awal: tex (really I'm meaning latex which is texlive on debian) is a different approach to writting documents than a word processor
16:10<Guest576>but I am really a novice with console
16:10<somiaj>awal: it is actually quite old and many scientific papers are written using it. I prefer it because then I can use any $EDITOR like vim and be very light weight, though you have to typeset (compile the document) which can take some resources, but usually far less in the long run than a word processor
16:11<somiaj>awal: http://latex-project.org/intro.html
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16:13<awal>somiaj, ok, ok, thanks. yes I heard about latex but when searching with aptitude or apt I really don't know which latex-... must I install for be able to make word documents as with abiword or libreoffice-writer . texlive-latex-base ?
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16:14<Guest576>I am programming with R to solve some statistical problem, and I need to find some sentences that I have used before, I have many files with R code, I can find these files with >find /path/ -name "*.R" ... after that I would like to use the result of this command as an input of "grep" to look inside every file for a specific character chain ... is it possible ?
16:14<dondelelcaro>Guest576: yes. find path -iname '*.R' -print0|xargs -0 grep foo;
16:14<somiaj>awal: correct, now texlive-latex-base will take up a lot of space on your hd, so the packages are big, but the actual resource use is fairly small (though it is slightly intensive when you are compiling the document)
16:15<Guest576>wuauuu very fast answer <dondelelcaro> ... thank you very much, I am going to try with your suggestion
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16:16<awal>somiaj, ok. thanks for the infos. I'll try latex in my other powerfull machine and if it's convenient i install it in my old machine
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16:17<awal>:)
16:17<awal>not really old. it's a thinkpad intel core 2
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16:18<somiaj>Yea until you use it you may not see what I mean. Writing the document is extreamly light weight because you can use any $EDITOR of your choice from nano, vim, emacs, kedit, gedit, etc.
16:18<Guest576><dondelelcaro> I need to replace "foo" with my pattern ?
16:18<somiaj>it does take some power to compile the documents. In the past this could take 5-10mins (sometimes hours for large) but this is like 20 years ago, any machine in the last 10 years should compile most documents in about a min give or take.
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16:20<dualbus>Guest576: or, grep -r --include='*.[Rr]' pattern path, if you have GNU grep
16:20<awal>somiaj, ok, ok. i understand. thanks. sound very interesting :)
16:20<dualbus>(which you do if you use debian)
16:20<Guest576>yes, I have GNU grep i think, i am using debian
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16:21<Guest576>ok, I already replaced "foo" with my pattern and it work fine ... I am going to study every command in the line to try to understand what is happening
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16:21<Marillion>gypsy: what did you to use then that does work?
16:21<Guest576>thank you very much to everyone
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16:22<Guest576>your help solved my problem, bye bye
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16:23<somiaj>!next
16:23<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
16:23<magicwave>I may have just broken a machine. I tried to mount an external drive with the command, "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /home/username/usbdrive"
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16:23<magicwave>Navigating over to /home/username/usbdrive and issuing a ls got the system root. I thought that was odd.
16:24<somiaj>magicwave: sounds like you just mounted the wrong partition. you can most the same partition in multiple places, just unmount it
16:24<rostam>Hi how could I extract domain name on my system? Is there a utility or file that could provide the info? thanks
16:24<magicwave>Trying to SSH in get nothing now.
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16:25<dualbus>magicwave: reboot it
16:25<somiaj>rostam: you can try reverse dns on your ip
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16:25<somiaj>rostam: but that doens't say if there are other domain names that point to your ip, in this case you would have to know that.
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16:26<rostam>somiaj, sorry I am not familiar with reverse dns.
16:26<somiaj>rostam: reverse dns takes an ip number and returns a name for it.
16:26<magicwave>Still not getting anything.
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16:28<magicwave>(Even after a reboot).
16:28<somiaj>rostam: looks like you can use the dig command, 'dig +noall +answer -x IP_ADDR'
16:28<rostam>somiaj, thanks
16:29<mullein>rostam: you may alternatively want to extract the domain part of the local hostname. hostname -d will do that.
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16:29<somiaj>mullein: though hostname may not even be related to a qualified domain name.
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16:32<rostam>mullein, thanks
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16:33<clare>Hi everyone. I'm new to Debian OS and I'm wondering if someone can help me install an IRC client via terminal.
16:33<clare>I'm reading this: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/xchat/download
16:34<captnfab>clare: apt-get install xchat
16:34<clare>and I added deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy main to my sources list as suggested, but I'm not sure where to go from there
16:34<captnfab>ran as root
16:34<gypsy>apt-get install irssi
16:34<gypsy>it's the client of the future!
16:34*mullein endorses gypsy's answer
16:35<somiaj>clare: if you haven't set up wheezy sources yet, you need to first run apt-get update
16:35<Marillion>gypsy: what did you to use then that does work?
16:35<captnfab>and then, weechat is for after the future?
16:35<somiaj>clare: then you can do the apt-get install xchat
16:35<gypsy>doesn't mean i use it all the time ;)
16:35<mullein>i see that!
16:35<somiaj>I think you need to add wheezy-backport sources to get weechat
16:35<mullein>i didn't know mirc was still around actually
16:35<somiaj>,v weechat
16:35<judd>Package: weechat on i386 -- squeeze: 0.3.2-1+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 0.3.2-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 0.3.8-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.3.8-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 0.4.3-2~bpo70+1; sid: 0.4.3-2; wheezy-backports: 1.0.1-1~bpo70+1; sid: 1.0.1-1; jessie: 1.0.1-1
16:35<clare>ok I did su root
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16:35<clare>then apt-get update
16:35<somiaj>nope it is some other newer irc cleitn that is only available in backports
16:36<gypsy>Marillion: the intel bios on that mobo offers 'load custom config', 'save custom config', and 'set default values' options
16:36<clare>after typing apt-get install xchat, I'm met with this
16:36<clare>Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.7.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20141018-13:06' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter
16:37<somiaj>clare: you need to remove the deb-cdrom lines from your sources.list that were set up during the install
16:37<somiaj>clare: this way it will always use the internet sources and not the dvd sources
16:37<retrospectacus>or you can insert the DVD
16:37<somiaj>then rerun apt-get update after that -- or yes do what it says, insert the dvd
16:37<gypsy>Marillion: i did save custom, then set default. booted a temp install and nproc=2. loaded my custom settings back, temp install, nproc=2. booted my regular 686-pae, nproc=2
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16:38<Marillion>gypsy: and you set the default values and it works, right?
16:38<clare>inserting cd. thanks
16:38<gypsy>i'll just chalk it up to eeprom corruption or garbage data, doesn't make sense otherwise
16:38<gypsy>worked both with default values, AND with me reloading the old ones
16:39<clare>I think it worked after I put disk in
16:39<clare>Setting up xchat-common (2.8.8-7.1) ... Setting up xchat (2.8.8-7.1) ... Processing triggers for menu ...
16:39<gypsy>yeah, but for the future you might not want to rely on the disk
16:39<somiaj>again if you remove the cdrom sources it will just automatically download from the internet and not ask for the dvd
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16:40<retrospectacus>dpkg: congratulate clare_
16:40<dpkg>Huzzah clare_, you did it!
16:40<clare_>thanks. ill edit my source file again
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16:41<clare_>I'm a computer science student, who never really used any unix systems before, which is why I'm here trying to change that. Thanks for help ^^
16:42<retrospectacus>clare_: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/
16:42<retrospectacus>clare_: and there is always somebody here to help
16:42<clare_>I setup an amazon ec2 web server the other day with wheezy, was a goal of learning more web development, but decided i should setup a home environment too to learn more
16:42<clare_>thanks ill book mark
16:42<clare_>with a goal*
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16:46<clare_>where is a good place to store my SSH key?
16:46<clare_>I have a backup on google drives, but locally on my Wheezy desktop
16:46<magicwave>SSH key to the EC2 system?
16:46<clare_>yes
16:46<gypsy>an otp eprom sealed in a faraday cage buried 6 feet under
16:47<gypsy>might be a bit extreme, but it'll be fairly safe =D
16:47<magicwave>I wouldn't put your key on Google Drive since cloud storage tends to be insecure.
16:48<clare_>maybe just a bit extreme :p
16:48<magicwave>If you're a true privacy zealot you wouldn't put anything in cloud storage that you wouldn't mind becoming public.
16:49<clare_>probably not a bad idea! I need to pick up a new USB drive
16:49<clare_>One on my home hard drive, one copy on a USB drive
16:50<clare_>then take a trip to a faraday cage
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16:50<magicwave>I'm only half-joking, but a closed paint can is a cheap faraday cage.
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16:55<clare_>I notice Python 2.7.3 is installed by default, is installing 3.4 going to break anything?
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16:57<CavemanSean>Hi there, got a question regarding Exim4 (or anything else similar) I've setup a 'local' blog for a NFP chairty group, they'd like to recieve emails once a new item is posted so I've created an account for them on my mail server, configured Exim to use it as a relay but its still not working... but I don't see any error message that may help me diagnose this problem, any ideas would be
16:57<CavemanSean>greatly appreicated.
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17:01<mullein>CavemanSean: do they have their own domain?
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17:01<clare_>when I find a package I want, for example: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/vim
17:01<clare_>how do I find the apt-get installation ?
17:01<CavemanSean>They do... Their IT will not give us the credentials though;
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17:01<clare_>for terminal
17:02<mullein>is the mail going to an email address at their domain? how does it get relayed to your machine if so?
17:02<retrospectacus>clare_: "apt-get install vim"
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17:03<clare_>retrospectacus: that worked, thanks. is there a place where I can see the apt-get install command for a package beforehand?
17:04<clare_>I was hoping it would be listed under packages.debian.org
17:04<retrospectacus>it is just apt-get install packagename
17:04<centrx>clare_, the command is always apt-get install <package name>, but sometimes the package names are non-obvious
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17:05<retrospectacus>you can search the package lists with e.g. "apt-cache search text editor"
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17:05<clare_>so, if I want python 3.4 I just type "apt-get install python3.4" ?
17:06<retrospectacus>you could, but python 3.4 is not available for debian stable
17:06<centrx>clare_, python 3 is packaged as python3, the latest version of which in stable is 3.2.3
17:07<clare_>ok thanks
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17:07<trico>wheezy doesnt have acidbase (snort webgui). what is an equivalent?
17:08<trico>that is in the repos of course
17:08<CavemanSean>I have setup 'newsletter@seanchiarot.com' as their email, when I configure Exim I choose 'Mail sent by smarthost; no local mail' -> the Mail Name is set to 'blog.christianhope.local' -> ip to listen on is 127.0.0.1 ; ::25-> IP Address / host name of outging smarthost is mail.seanchiarot.com::587 then I opened the passwd.client and filled in my redentials
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17:09<centrx>trico, You can do a source-backport of acidbase from testing/unstable to stable
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17:09<centrx>trico, apt-cache search snort will show different snort-related packages in stable
17:10<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell trico about simple sid backport
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17:11<mullein>CavemanSean: you don't see any errors on that exim instance, and no errors on mail.seanchiarot.com exim? they are two different machines? do they both have christianhope.local in dc_relay_domains in /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf?
17:12<trico>id like to use something else since the reason acidbase is no longer in the repo is unmaintained, unaddressed vulnerabilities
17:12<mullein>also are you just looking at /var/log/exim4/mainlog? have you looked at /var/log/exim4/rejectlog?
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17:13<CavemanSean>No erros in the exim instance, my mail server is running a Windows Exchange Server... and as for the logs, I've looked there and in var/log as well
17:14<trico>going to try ossim if it does anything with snort
17:14<Thomas_>How's it going? I just installed Debian but am only getting a blinking folder with question mark on startup
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17:15<mullein>CavemanSean: does /var/log/exim4/mainlog show the delivery attempt?
17:15<Thomas_>I think it's a partition issue. Could anyone do a private chat or know of a support line?
17:15<CavemanSean>Yeah... thats the weird thing :( mullein
17:15<blast007>Thomas_: is that on a mac?
17:15<mullein>and what does it show? can you pastebin it?
17:16<mullein>i suspect that exim is delivering it to exchange, but exchange doesn't recognize the domain christianhope.local as one it accepts mail for and it's silently dropping it
17:16<Thomas_>Blasr007: Yeah regular MacBook
17:17<CavemanSean>Hmmm, makes sense, I'll take a look at my server logs... tbh never thought of that thanks mullein
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17:17<blast007>Thomas_: there are many hardware varations of "MacBook", so you'd need to figure out which one you have. You could check over here once you've figured that out to see if there's any special instructions: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple
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17:19<blast007>Thomas_: and if you still have issues, you'd have to give us more information (which specific model you have, what you've done to install it, etc)
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17:42<clare_>Is there an easy way to change the background color of my terminal from white to black?
17:43<retrospectacus>probably
17:44<retrospectacus>it depends on your terminal, thre should be some option like "current session preferences" in the menu
17:45<clare_>found it in profile preferences
17:45<clare_>thx
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17:54<clare_>do I need to install a package to use a dual monitor setup?
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17:54<clare_>currently my screens are mirrored
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17:58<clare_>is there a way to install something from github, via terminal?
17:58<clare_>I'm trying to get https://github.com/gmarik/Vundle.vim
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18:01<clare_>nevermind, I think I got it
18:01<clare_>git clone https://github.com/gmarik/Vundle.vim.git ~/.vim/bundle/Vundle.vim
18:01<clare_>however, what does "~/" do
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18:02<retrospectacus>~ is your home directory
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18:03<retrospectacus>e.g. /home/clare/
18:03<retrospectacus>or /root/ if you are root
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18:03<clare_>should I put /home/ or /root/ in its place, or will it do it itself
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18:03<retrospectacus>just use ~
18:03<clare_>k
18:04<clare_>it did Cloning into ' /root/.vim/bundle/... '
18:04<clare_>i was signed in root when I did it
18:05<retrospectacus>it will work for "vim" run by root
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18:08<clare_>what does E325: ATTENTION
18:08<clare_>Found a swap file by the name "~/.vimrc.swp"
18:08<clare_> mean?
18:08<clare_>im trying to setup .vimrc
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18:14<retrospectacus>it means you already have a "vim" open, editing that file
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18:15<retrospectacus>or you did, and hit the X without quitting properly
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19:56<ysb_Hattrick>Is there a way to differentiate between an ext4 partition that was created that way and one that was converted from ext3?
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22:00<Enraged>Does anyone in here understand the mechanism by which an encrypted swap partition, decrypts itslef without storing the decryption key/passphrase in the clear?
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22:03<Enraged>madduck: I have read your article multiple times over the past week concerning how to do this, but I don't understand how you can use cryptsetup's derive function against a key that should theoretically be encrypted within the swap partition to be decrypted. 1 giant chicken and egg situation.
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22:38<monk>is it possible to install windows 7 dual boot without removing an existing debian installation?
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22:43<Enraged>monk: Do you have the free space to install into?
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22:43<monk>how much space is needed roughly
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22:44<Enraged>monk: My system installation of windows 7 is about 28gb.
22:44<monk>one sec
22:45<monk>yes I do
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22:47<monk>Enraged,
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22:53<monk>I have enough space
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22:56<monk>is it possible to install windows 7 dual boot without removing an existing debian installation?
22:56<Enraged>monk: hey, sorry, went afk
22:57<Enraged>monk: Yeah, just create a partition for the size you want your windows 7 installation to be through Linux, and then you should be able to just launch the windows installer from whatever medium you have and be set.
22:57<Enraged>monk: GRUB might throw up some queries the next time you boot into Debian
22:58<monk>ok but where can I do this process exactly
22:58<monk>to create the partition
22:58<monk>without re-installing debian
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23:00<Enraged>http://www.netfibre.com/?p=658
23:02<monk>ok, thanks. Anything else that I should know beforehand?
23:02<Enraged>monk: Windows I don;t think works with ext filesystems, so change the line on that tutorial, # mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1, to, I believe, mkfs -t vfat /dev/hdb1
23:02<Enraged>monk: I'm basing that off: # mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1
23:03<Enraged>Oops
23:03<Enraged>monk: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/convert-hard-disk-partition-fat32-format#1TC=windows-7
23:03<monk>uses ntfs
23:03<monk>I believe
23:05<auriza>Hello.
23:05<auriza>I want to make a personal Debian package mirror on my lab.
23:05<auriza>What is the best mirroring tool?
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23:17<rjsalts>auriza: a mirror of debian's official repos? or stuff for your own packages?
23:18<auriza>from debian official repo
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23:20<poll>hola
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23:23<auriza>rjsalts: from debian's official repo
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23:24<rjsalts>If you want a full mirror then the documentation for how to become an official mirror is helpful https://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror
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23:24<rjsalts>auriza: if you just wanted a particular architecture/section then https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/debmirror is probably a good way to do so
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23:27<auriza>rjsalts: thank you. there are many choices (`apt-mirror`, `debmirror`, etc) that confuse me.
23:27<rjsalts>yeah, I've used debmirror, it seems decent
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23:28<rjsalts>apt-mirror looks about the same
23:29<rjsalts>apt-cacher is a different beast
23:30<auriza>rjsalts: I want ease of maintenance: periodic automatic update and using rsync (not ftp) to save bandwidth.
23:30<Enraged>madduck: I don't suppose you're there yet by any chance?
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23:31<rjsalts>debmirror certainly supports all that, if you're using a mirror that offers rsync
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23:32<auriza>rjsalts: ok, many thanks.
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23:35<ysb_Hattrick>I'm curious, how many debian systems are in your lab?
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23:37<auriza>ysb Hattrick: 150 Ubuntu PC and a few Debian server
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