| --- | Log | opened Sat Nov 08 00:00:01 2014 |
| --- | Day | changed Sat Nov 08 2014 |
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| 00:04 | <j4s0nmchr1st0s> | jalalsfs: compile lab reports on ssri therapy |
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| 00:06 | <j4s0nmchr1st0s> | I want to review the effectiveness in inducing neuron growth. |
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| 00:08 | <j4s0nmchr1st0s> | Is there active support for bioinformatics distributions? |
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| 00:15 | <cteupe> | I am so in love with Jessie right now |
| 00:17 | <somiaj> | then you may want to /join #debian-next for jessie support (: |
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| 00:40 | <qxt> | looks like Jessie got frozen with Linux 3.14. I thought it was going to have 3.16 ? |
| 00:41 | <somiaj> | ,kernels |
| 00:41 | <judd> | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.17-1-686-pae (3.17-1~exp1); sid: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-2); jessie: 3.16-3-686-pae (3.16.5-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16-0.bpo.3-686-pae (3.16.5-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
| 00:41 | <qxt> | Nice |
| 00:42 | <qxt> | so 3.16 is what will be a release next spring. |
| 00:44 | <somiaj> | it should have 3.16 right now, you must just have an older kernel |
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| 01:14 | <qxt> | somiaj just did a dist-upgrade. Nope says 3.14 still. Using only main repository. |
| 01:15 | <qxt> | Jessie using main with just xfce. Nothing pinned. |
| 01:15 | <somiaj> | qxt: please /j #debian-next, then goto paste.debian.net and show me the output of dpkg -l | grep linux-image |
| 01:16 | <somiaj> | you may just not have the linux-image meta package installed, but lets contuinue this in the right channel |
| 01:16 | <qxt> | sure |
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| 01:42 | <qxt> | Is gnome the most popular DE used? I used it until about 2.3ish but never looked back after that. Maybe it has changed for the better since then? |
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| 01:42 | <somiaj> | !popcorn |
| 01:42 | * | dpkg pours a bag of popcorn into mikegrb's lap. (You probably mean popcon, ask me about <popcon>) |
| 01:42 | <somiaj> | !popcon |
| 01:42 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ -- See the FAQ at http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ . Statistics are also available via IRC, /msg judd popcon $package |
| 01:42 | <somiaj> | anyways I don't know what you would consider popular, but there are some stats |
| 01:43 | <qxt> | most used |
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| 01:44 | <qxt> | I rolled this in 2012 using xfce " www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WnaZL3ARN0 " and since then caring less and less about x . |
| 01:45 | <qxt> | Was sort of a "old gnome" replacement with a ton of bling. |
| 01:47 | <qxt> | I just never could get use to OSX gnome or unity. Might have to force myself to learn to like then. |
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| 03:22 | <anonymous> | hai ! |
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| 03:22 | <anonymous> | hi |
| 03:23 | <anonymous> | where are you going? |
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| 03:25 | <anonymous> | I can help |
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| 03:30 | <anonymous> | we need help now |
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| 03:31 | <anonymous> | Please help me |
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| 03:32 | <somiaj> | anonymous: You have to ask a good question to get decent help. Right now you are just noise. (: |
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| 03:37 | <somiaj> | anonymous: please do not message me, if you have a question about debian please ask |
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| 03:40 | <anonymous> | Sorry, I am not skilled in using this |
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| 03:47 | <anonymous> | I am a college student ,I have a question. |
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| 03:48 | <planetmaker> | !ask |
| 03:48 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 03:50 | <anonymous> | Thank you! I know |
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| 04:49 | <pjfreedom> | Hello People!!! |
| 04:49 | <pjfreedom> | Anyone using the new debian? |
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| 04:49 | <pjfreedom> | hi aiaco |
| 04:50 | <FlowRiser> | pjfreedom, Tried it out on my server |
| 04:50 | <FlowRiser> | works great |
| 04:50 | <pjfreedom> | cool |
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| 04:50 | <pjfreedom> | is compatibility good? |
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| 04:51 | <somiaj> | the new debian? jessie is frozen but is not near release ready |
| 04:51 | <pjfreedom> | Any reason why its frozen? |
| 04:52 | <somiaj> | because that is how the release cycle works |
| 04:52 | <pjfreedom> | k |
| 04:52 | <pjfreedom> | I guess thats good. I don't have to worry about upgrading my wheezy server for a while |
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| 04:52 | <somiaj> | testing freezes, then the focus is to fix all release critical bugs (or remove the buggy software) and eventaully release it |
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| 04:52 | <somiaj> | jessie will be released sometime next year, but could be 6months could be a year |
| 04:53 | <somiaj> | wheezy will be supported for 1 year after the release date of jessie |
| 04:53 | <pjfreedom> | I read about that |
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| 04:54 | <pjfreedom> | so... |
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| 04:55 | <pjfreedom> | Anyone use the new gnome 3 interface |
| 04:55 | <pjfreedom> | I don't care for it. |
| 04:56 | <pjfreedom> | Just to make sure this irc isn't for help topic only right? |
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| 04:57 | <Apollo> | pjfreedom: it is |
| 04:58 | <Apollo> | #debian-offtopic for complaining |
| 04:58 | <pjfreedom> | oh. I guess I am in the wrong channel |
| 04:58 | <pjfreedom> | I was just looking to chat |
| 04:58 | <pjfreedom> | sorry |
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| 05:58 | <anonymous> | im prettz sure most of the people in here are kiddies thez think theyre cool so thez downloaded the anonzmous os and thez dont know how to use it |
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| 06:00 | <seeS> | Was that bad trolling? |
| 06:01 | <somiaj> | He was here earlier saying he had a question but never asking it. |
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| 06:44 | <jjhjj> | is there a renamed seamonkey in the repos? |
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| 07:00 | <Lonesome> | :) |
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| 07:31 | <dioo> | Hi, is there a way to upgrade 1 virtual package only? |
| 07:32 | <dioo> | Like, I want to upgrade just linux-image in a generic way (so I don't have to apt-get install the latest providing package or even have it manually installed)? |
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| 07:48 | <studente> | hi guys |
| 07:49 | <studente> | I want help for add the adt bundle at my eclipse |
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| 07:58 | <Brigo> | dioo, apt-get install <virtual packagae> is not enought? |
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| 08:00 | <dioo> | Brigo: It doesn't install it. It says "<virtual package> is provided by:" |
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| 08:00 | <dioo> | and just stops there |
| 08:00 | <Brigo> | what package? |
| 08:00 | <dioo> | linux-image in this case |
| 08:01 | <Brigo> | dioo, wheezy? |
| 08:01 | <dioo> | Brigo: 7.7, I guess that's Wheezy? |
| 08:02 | <dioo> | Yes, Wheezy |
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| 08:03 | <Brigo> | dioo, i think it does not exist anymore because there are differents kernels, even i386 or amd64 you may select. |
| 08:04 | <Brigo> | dioo, for example i486 or i686 depending on your hardware. |
| 08:04 | <Brigo> | or pae, etc. |
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| 08:05 | <dioo> | Brigo: Ok. In that case, would you know of a way to figure out which is the right virtual package (in another case where I don't know). |
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| 08:05 | <Brigo> | dioo, itdepends of your hardware |
| 08:05 | <dioo> | Oh right, I can just leave out the version I guess |
| 08:06 | <Brigo> | there is a virtual package for all those kernels |
| 08:06 | <dioo> | Brigo: I mean to say that 'apt-get upgrade' tells me it's going to install foo-x.y.z and I wanted to know which package to install. |
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| 08:07 | <dioo> | But I'm dump |
| 08:07 | <dioo> | *dumb |
| 08:07 | <dioo> | I tried linux-image instead of linux-image-amd64, just like you said ;) |
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| 08:07 | <Brigo> | dioo, what is your cpu? |
| 08:07 | <Brigo> | ah, then ok. |
| 08:08 | <Brigo> | yes, it is just linux-image has no sense any more. :) |
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| 08:09 | <dioo> | Brigo: Thanks for your help :) |
| 08:09 | <Brigo> | dioo, np :) |
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| 08:18 | <tankasi> | test |
| 08:19 | <luis_> | test back |
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| 08:20 | <ArtooDetoo> | you expelled him :-S |
| 08:21 | <luis_> | w- |
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| 08:36 | <Lonesome> | Anybody here? |
| 08:36 | <mtn> | Lonesome: nope |
| 08:36 | <Lonesome> | Oh |
| 08:36 | <Lonesome> | :( |
| 08:37 | * | devil is also not here |
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| 08:38 | <musca> | hmm? |
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| 08:44 | <Lonesome> | Are you people dead? |
| 08:44 | <devil> | bots, all of us |
| 08:44 | <Lonesome> | You kidding right? |
| 08:45 | <mtn> | Lonesome: bots never kid |
| 08:45 | <Lonesome> | Who made you? |
| 08:45 | <p0rk0ff> | and never die |
| 08:45 | <ansgar> | Lonesome: Other bots. |
| 08:45 | <mtn> | Lonesome: this is a support channel, did you need some help with debian? |
| 08:46 | <Lonesome> | Oh |
| 08:46 | <Lonesome> | Right |
| 08:46 | <Lonesome> | No, if I got any problem, I'll come right here. |
| 08:46 | <Lonesome> | :) |
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| 09:59 | <ying> | 我用的是deepin系统，安装了scim输入法，用的是五笔，但是打开浏览器却法输入 |
| 09:59 | <ying> | 怎么办啊 |
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| 09:59 | <ying> | 求指教 |
| 10:01 | <vrkalak> | !chinese |
| 10:01 | <dpkg> | somebody said chinese was Find Chinese on Debian at http://www.debian.org/intl/zh/, or try the channel #Chinese, or /join #debian-zh on irc.oftc.net |
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| 10:07 | <ying> | I am a new. |
| 10:07 | <musca> | welcome ying |
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| 10:08 | <ying> | and i used this software firstly. |
| 10:09 | <acald3ron> | ehlo ying |
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| 10:09 | <ying> | i do not know that i should speak in english. |
| 10:09 | <ying> | sorry |
| 10:10 | <ying> | could somebody help me |
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| 10:10 | <planetmaker> | yes... but: |
| 10:10 | <planetmaker> | !ask |
| 10:10 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 10:11 | <ying> | ok. thank you |
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| 10:13 | <musca> | ying: did you try to use the resources from http://www.linuxdeepin.com to resolve your questions? |
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| 10:14 | <ying> | i do not know |
| 10:14 | <ying> | did not |
| 10:14 | <ying> | i will try |
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| 10:25 | <ying> | i installed scim and fcitx. how to change between them. |
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| 11:29 | <francisco_> | I have no sound on powerbook g4 debian 7.7, Someone can help me? |
| 11:32 | <ArtooDetoo> | francisco_: have you checked this? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=109936 |
| 11:32 | <MrFrood> | !ppc |
| 11:32 | <dpkg> | PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <macsound>, <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>, <ppc64>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
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| 12:16 | <francisco_> | thank you very much |
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| 12:19 | <grove> | Yesterday I noticed that an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' on my machine running debian wheezy, wanted to install "libsystemd-id128-0 libsystemd-journal0 systemd" while 'apt-get upgrade' doesn't want to do anything, so how do I find out why? |
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| 12:24 | <francisco_> | one last question, to put the battery driver, would be so kind as to inform me how? |
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| 12:29 | <centrx> | francisco_, If you mean "power management", install acpi |
| 12:29 | <supaman> | grove: you could try "aptitude why systemd" |
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| 12:43 | <babilen> | grove: Probably because it requires the removal of packages (which is the difference between "upgrade" and "dist-upgrade"), but we require a lot more information to give actual advice. Please start with what is mentioned in <bat> -- /msg dpkg bat |
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| 13:24 | <kim> | Any idea on how I can set Umask in Gnome [using debian stable] ? "~/.bashrc" "~/.profile" apply to bash. "/etc/profile" related to "/etc/login.defs" which is apparently not read either... I'm stuck... |
| 13:25 | <centrx> | kim, Is there "Settings" widget for it? |
| 13:26 | <kim> | hummm... I'm checking.... |
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| 13:26 | <sevots> | some random daemon seems to be tinkering with my min/max cpufreqs. How can I find out what it is? |
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| 13:32 | <kim> | @centrx, I just checked "advanced settings" : nothing related to umask. I also browsed "https://extensions.gnome.org" and couldn't fin what i need. |
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| 13:38 | <somiaj> | kim: at some level when you login to gnome a shell is launched, you could modify the session script that is run at startup, or just use .xsession for a custom session that also sets the umask |
| 13:39 | <somiaj> | I'm surprised that shell doesn't source /etc/profile though, but been a while since I've looked at the details of gnome |
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| 13:46 | <MrFrood> | somiaj: iirc .profile is only sourced when the shell is invoked as a login-shell |
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| 13:47 | <kim> | Sorry, i was away from keyboard..... family.... |
| 13:48 | <somiaj> | MrFrood: yea I thought the display managers did that, did a login(1) to a shell then used that shell to launch the desktop, but I guess it could just be a non-login shell there too. |
| 13:48 | <kim> | @amoiaj: The first line in "/etc/profile" says it's invoked only by Bourne compatible shells |
| 13:48 | <somiaj> | but if you change the xsession to run umask it should work, might even be able to add a command to change the umask ni the startup scripts -- again this all depends on how gnome deals with its primary shell. |
| 13:49 | <kim> | I'm trying the .xsession trick. It seems robust to me. |
| 13:49 | <somiaj> | kim: that is correct. again I forget the details. I personally just use startx so always have a full shell enviroment. The issue is what shell and how it is loaded from the display manager. |
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| 13:54 | <somiaj> | kim: yea, if you wanted a better solution you may need to look at the details of the shell launched by the displaymanager when you login and run gnome |
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| 14:01 | <kim> | SOLVED... by putting "umask 0002" in "~/.xinitrc". Thanks! |
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| 14:03 | <somiaj> | kim: you should be useing ~/.xsession on debian |
| 14:03 | <somiaj> | kim: that should be sourced by both display managers and startx, .xinitrc may only be sourced by certain things |
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| 14:04 | <kim> | I tried ".xsession". It's not working. |
| 14:05 | <somiaj> | how do you start your xsession? |
| 14:06 | <kim> | GDM |
| 14:07 | <somiaj> | that is strange, what session do you choose from gnome, by debian policy I thought it should be sorucing .xsession not .xinitrc |
| 14:07 | <somiaj> | but maybe gdm only sources .xsession if you choose the 'default' or 'user/custom' (what ever they actually call it) session |
| 14:07 | <kim> | It's a brand new install. I didn't mess with it yet. |
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| 14:08 | <somiaj> | anyways glad it works, I am just surprised that gdm isn't sourcing .xsession (again things i don't use so I have little experience with them) |
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| 14:11 | <kim> | I 've always struggled myself with these .bash* .profile .xinit and .xsession scripts.... it's really not clear. Thanks anyway! |
| 14:12 | <somiaj> | well they are config files for different applications, so it just depends which applications read's what. I was under the impression that debian tries to standarize somethings, i.e. why .xsession over .xinitrc |
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| 14:12 | <valdyn> | gdm and xdm and probably all the others read .xsession only for the "default X session" (probably different names in different *dm) |
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| 14:14 | <valdyn> | !dotfiles |
| 14:14 | <dpkg> | somebody said dotfiles was http://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles, or http://www.dotfiles.com/ Remember that changes to these files won't be reflected until you log out and then log back in. Ask me about <bash login scripts>. |
| 14:14 | <somiaj> | yea seems like a not to well followed policy, I almost recall someone saying lightdm doesn't even have a default session to source .xsession |
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| 14:15 | <valdyn> | im sure someone would file a bug if that was the case |
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| 14:18 | <valdyn> | i find the shipped Sessions are really quite useless for anyone not using one of the large desktop environments |
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| 14:23 | <Ryccardo> | heh |
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| 14:43 | <sevots> | some random daemon seems to be tinkering with my min/max cpufreqs. How can I find out what it is? |
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| 14:53 | <kim> | @somiaj APOLOGIES, I was wrong and you were right: GDM doesn't source "~/.xinitrc", but launches "~/.xsession". Just for the sake of ot, it also sources .xprofile (but there must be a umask later on in the login process which cancels its effect". I will investigate the ".xsession" later on, when i've got more time. |
| 14:53 | <vortek> | Were can I find a debian USB image for download? |
| 14:53 | <babilen> | dpkg: .xsession |
| 14:53 | <dpkg> | hmm... xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession' |
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| 14:55 | <babilen> | vortek: All images are hybrid images and can be written directly to your USB stick. Use "cp /path/to/debian.iso /dev/sdX ; sync" to do so. (replace /etc/sdX with something like /dev/sdb, that is the device node of your usb drive, use "dmesg|tail -n23" after plugging it in to find that)) |
| 14:55 | <babilen> | dpkg: tell vortek -about usb install |
| 14:55 | <vortek> | im using windows to write the image |
| 14:56 | <vortek> | ahh got it |
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| 16:25 | <leszek> | everytime I upgrade my system with apper I need to kill it and run dpkg --configure -a in the terminal for the packages that ask questions to successfully configure. I am running wheezy and yeah debconf-kde-helper is installed |
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| 16:32 | <awal> | leszek, you may get more help if in #deian-kde |
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| 16:34 | <leszek> | awal: yeah I also asked my question there already. Still waiting for an answer though |
| 16:34 | <amacater> | Evening all - how is it going? |
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| 16:40 | <awal> | leszek, check apper configuration if something wrong "apper --settings", but updating via terminal is preffered... |
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| 16:56 | <david38400> | not sure if I am in the right chat |
| 16:56 | <david38400> | I just installed Linux mint 17 alongside my ubuntu 14.04 and it tells me the password is wrong |
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| 16:56 | <david38400> | I would like to delete it and start again |
| 16:56 | <david38400> | Any help please' |
| 16:56 | <awal> | leszek, also try running apper via terminal and maybe you get useful outputs |
| 16:57 | <Ryccardo> | those are the only OSes you have? remove their partitions with the installer of the OS you want... |
| 16:57 | <ompaul> | david38400: you are not |
| 16:57 | <ompaul> | david38400: you can get debian at http://www.debian.org |
| 16:57 | <david38400> | ompaul, Do you mean I am in the wrong chat? |
| 16:57 | <ompaul> | david38400: yes |
| 16:57 | <ompaul> | !based on debian |
| 16:57 | <dpkg> | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 16:57 | <david38400> | Which chat line would I need to get into then Ubuntu or Linux? |
| 16:58 | <ompaul> | you go to which one you want to keep /msg dpkg mint if that is what you want |
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| 16:59 | <david38400> | ompaul, sorry this is all new to me how do I get into that chat. I normally use xri chat. thks for your help |
| 16:59 | <awal> | david38400, you may get help a linux mint channel at freenode. here is debian support only |
| 16:59 | <babilen> | dpkg: mint |
| 16:59 | <dpkg> | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 16:59 | <babilen> | david38400: ^^^ |
| 16:59 | <david38400> | guys what is freenode? sorry |
| 16:59 | <david38400> | how do I get there to the chat |
| 16:59 | <amacater> | For Ubuntu #ubuntu possibly |
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| 17:00 | <babilen> | dpkg: otherchannel david38400 #linuxmint-help irc.spotchat.org |
| 17:00 | <dpkg> | david38400: The channel you are looking for is #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org. Please do /server irc.spotchat.org and then /join #linuxmint-help. If your client supports it, you can also right-click the following link and choose connect: irc://irc.spotchat.org/#linuxmint-help |
| 17:00 | <Ryccardo> | david38400: press ctrl+S, you'll see freenode in the list |
| 17:00 | <babilen> | Their channel is not on Freenode though |
| 17:00 | <awal> | linum mint haven't channel in freenode |
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| 17:18 | <leszek> | awal: yeah tested that all it does not show anything weird. It just hangs and waiting for user input at the configure stage so debconf is asking something but when running not in the console it has no interface to display to the user |
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| 18:58 | <benjamindees> | in the (Wheezy) installer, I need to partition manually (to specify the exact starting point of a partition). I selected both of the manual partitioning modules in the expert install, but it doesn't seem to give me any option like this. |
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| 19:01 | <sney> | yeah, the installer's partition editor isn't quite that fine tuned. if you need that much control I'd say use some livecd and make your partitions with fdisk/parted, then boot the installer and install to the existing partition(s) |
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| 19:08 | <benjamindees> | I found I can use parted from the terminal |
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| 19:08 | <kim> | Three hours ago, i questionned the IRC about setting a UMASK for gnome, run from gdm. I finally found the solution after parsing the two scripts "/etc/gdm3/Xsession" and "/etc/X11/Xsession". You can put a umask command into ~/.xprofile or ~/.gnomerc |
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| 19:09 | <maurom> | benjamindees, yep, adding to what sney said, you can use fdisk as well |
| 19:09 | <sney> | not really adding |
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| 19:12 | <maurom> | I meant, the installer provides that in another console |
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| 19:20 | <else-> | how would i best start debugging shutdown problems? my system does not shut down, but reboots instead |
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| 19:51 | <hujo> | else-, BIOS settings, e.g. what should happen in case of power loss |
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| 19:54 | <benjamindees> | I'm seeing this bug in Wheezy. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672689#25 |
| 19:54 | <benjamindees> | Any reason to believe it's fixed in testing? |
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| 19:58 | <Brigo> | benjamindees, i think this bug was closed without being solved |
| 19:58 | <benjamindees> | It kind of seems so. |
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| 20:01 | <benjamindees> | I'll see if I can get some more info. |
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| 20:18 | <benjamindees> | well, according to the log the problems seem to begin when it says "failed to load the cdrom", but it's mounted on /cdrom |
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| 20:27 | <benjamindees> | apt "failed the MD5 checksum verification" ... interesting |
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| 20:37 | <benjamindees> | it seems I have a bad iso image |
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| 20:42 | <benjamindees> | even though it has the correct sha256sum |
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| 20:44 | <hujo> | benjamindees, the md5sum is different, but the sha256 the same? |
| 20:44 | <benjamindees> | no, the iso checks out but not the package on the iso |
| 20:44 | <hujo> | oh, I see |
| 20:44 | <benjamindees> | the apt package.. suspiciously |
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| 20:45 | <benjamindees> | it has the same size as the one I just downloaded from ftp.us.debian.org, but different checksums |
| 20:46 | <vortek> | Were can I find the debian net install for wireless firmware at? |
| 20:46 | <vortek> | or the non net install? |
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| 20:47 | <vortek> | im installing debian via a wireless network |
| 20:47 | <gsimmons> | dpkg: tell vortek -about firmware images |
| 20:48 | <vortek> | thankyou |
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| 21:01 | <benjamindees> | hmm... I can't tell any difference between the package :( |
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| 21:13 | <vortek> | Whats a good window manager if you don't care about resources? |
| 21:13 | <vortek> | if you lust want all the bell and whistles and a good looking wm? |
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| 21:29 | <towski_> | can I try different graphics drivers somehow? |
| 21:29 | <towski_> | I'm currently usin the i915 |
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| 21:30 | <benjamindees> | you might be able to use a framebuffer driver |
| 21:31 | <towski_> | Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. |
| 21:31 | <towski_> | when I try to use the vesa driver |
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| 22:29 | <Doophus> | Hi there, I need assistance with my notebook running Debian 7, having done a recent apt-get update/upgrade I found when I close the lid of my notebook it goes to sleep (or suspend?) and fails to resume to the desktop mode. I've set the settings so that it does "nothing" when I close the lid in the preferences, not sure what is going on. |
| 22:29 | <Doophus> | Anybody got this problem, please do let me know :D |
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| 22:41 | <somiaj> | Doophus: did it resume normally before but is not resuming now? |
| 22:42 | <somiaj> | when you did your upgrade did you install a newer kernel, if so what one? |
| 22:42 | <Doophus> | Well, good question, it didn't even sleep/suspend before... but looking at it, it probably didn't. |
| 22:42 | <Doophus> | no, I didn't install a new kernel: I simply ran (one day) - sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 22:42 | <somiaj> | so you just wnt to disable suspend since it isn't working, or try to debug why it won't resume correctly? |
| 22:43 | <somiaj> | well upgrade could pull in new kenerls and do other things, I would need more info on what was upgraded. |
| 22:43 | <Doophus> | I just want to disable suspend in a way that if I close the lid, the machine just continues to run as though it wasn't closed. |
| 22:43 | <Doophus> | Oh okay, no problem, how can I fetch the version number(s) for you? |
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| 22:43 | <Doophus> | I'll go and load that machine up again, one moment. |
| 22:43 | <somiaj> | this is trigered by acpi, you can modify the events in /etc/acpi to disable this |
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| 22:45 | <Doophus> | okay, how can I fetch the current config of the acpi for you so you can see where I'm wrong |
| 22:45 | <somiaj> | Doophus: /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn-acpi-support is probably the config file you need to modify. Notice it runs a script, you can comment out the action line there and change it to action=/bin/true |
| 22:45 | <Doophus> | Not too sure why that isn't linked up with the Gnome's UI where it can tell it to not do anything when the lid is shut etc. |
| 22:45 | <Doophus> | thanks! |
| 22:46 | <somiaj> | yea I woudln't know what gnome tools there are to control things. (: |
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| 22:48 | <Doophus> | lol I have no idea either, I thought it was intuitive they provided me a UI (which did work previously!) but now it is not working anymore. Okay, I'm in the terminal now,... time to check this out :) |
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| 22:50 | <Doophus> | event=button[ /]power |
| 22:50 | <Doophus> | action=/etc/acpi/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh |
| 22:50 | <Doophus> | oops |
| 22:50 | <Doophus> | Sorry that's what it is now |
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| 22:50 | <Doophus> | was meant to only copy one line. Sorry about that. |
| 22:51 | <somiaj> | change the actio line to be /bin/true (all that does is return an exit 0 code so things thing something happened when noting really did) |
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| 22:51 | <Doophus> | Okay, I'll give that a go: though, this has to do with the "power button", I wonder if this relates to "lid closed" |
| 22:54 | <Doophus> | maybe... I do the same to lidbtn? |
| 22:54 | <somiaj> | Doophus: duh, thank you...i'm tired. |
| 22:54 | <somiaj> | Doophus: leave that one alone, do the lid closed one.....I am being tired (helped someone with the power button eariler |
| 22:55 | <Doophus> | Oh okay no problems, I'll revert that change :) |
| 22:55 | <somiaj> | yea lidbtn is the file you want |
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| 22:55 | <Doophus> | This needs a reboot to take effect, right? |
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| 22:56 | <Doophus> | Ahhh I'll just close the lid now and see if it all dies on me lol |
| 22:56 | <Doophus> | SWEEET it works, thanks somiaj! |
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| 23:21 | <Doophus> | By the way... does anybody know a (less obsolete) version of the Network Administrator's Manual for Debian? |
| 23:21 | <Doophus> | Or is that something that needs to be purchased? |
| 23:23 | <Doophus> | Oh: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/ There it is :) |
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| 23:35 | <vortek> | i habing a hardtime getting my wireless to authenticate with the debian firmware netinstall |
| 23:36 | <vortek> | it works fine in windows but dont work in debian |
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| 23:43 | <vortek> | any idea as to why? |
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