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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-11-20

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00:33<ovanau>galvao: Have you tried other repos?
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00:36<galvao>like,,,?
00:37<galvao>All repos in sources.list hit OK, except for those contrib
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01:26<AMZ>lousy
01:26<AMZ>hi everyone
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02:46<grummund>Hi, would it be normal to install ntpd for a laptop or are there other/better ways to maintain the clock?
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02:47<mgv>grummund: normal
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03:50<ovanau>galvao: pastebin your sources.list
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03:52<deepblue>i've got this message:"Message from syslogd@deepblue at Nov 20 10:47:52 ...
03:52<deepblue>kernel:[ 949.083567] Disabling IRQ #19".the torrents download slowed down now.how to fix this?
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03:57<TobiX>deepblue: Seems like a problem with your network card
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03:58<TobiX>deepblue: Check /proc/interrupts to see which device uses INT#19
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04:03<deepblue>TobiX, here, http://paste.debian.net/132604/
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04:07<alfatihmh>hi guys
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04:27<TobiX>deepblue: Interrupt of your hard disc controller, probalby not only torrents that are slow now...
04:27<TobiX>deepblue: Look into the output of "dmesg" - anything special before the interrupt got disabled?
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04:37<deepblue>TobiX, here, http://paste.debian.net/132606/
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04:44<peter1138>I'd guess your drive has died.
04:45<peter1138>Though it's possible those errors are caused by the IRQ being disabled.
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04:48<El_Presidente>speaking of drives, what else does one need to do in order to prolong SSD life? (besides adding noatime when creating the partition)
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04:53<TobiX>El_Presidente: Don't add noatime, that might confuse some tools. The default has been relatime for a while, which is okay
04:54<TobiX>deepblue: 1. Try a reboot, 2. Run "smartctl -a /dev/sdd" to check the health of your disc, 3. Try to find the reason of the disabled interrupt in /var/log/kern.log*
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04:58<El_Presidente>TobiX: I've been using my system with the SSD set with noatime flag for long, all seems well
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04:59<ixi>El_Presidente https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization
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05:03<TobiX>The problem with noatime is that issues are pretty silent. mutt not updating mailfolders is the one I remember.
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05:04<El_Presidente>ixi: yes I think I followed instructions there.. hence noatime
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05:04<TobiX>I wouldn't use noatime because it breaks standard file system semantics that some tools might rely upon
05:04<El_Presidente>TobiX: I see, so to disable it I simply remove noatime from fstab file?
05:04<TobiX>Yes
05:05<El_Presidente>TobiX: replace it with relatime
05:05<El_Presidente>?
05:06<El_Presidente>do I have to reboot after chaning fstab file?
05:07<El_Presidente>changing*
05:07<ixi>that's the easy way
05:07<ixi>do that
05:09<El_Presidente>alrighty thanks. rebooting brb gents
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05:18<TobiX>El_Presidente: I wouldn't worry too much with modern SSDs: http://techreport.com/review/27062/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-only-two-remain-after-1-5pb
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05:20<El_Presidente>TobiX: I'm trying to fine-tune my system.. I rebooted after changing to relatime.. now I'm trying to get PWM control on fans working (like to have a silent system)
05:20<berto>TobiX: that's an interesting article, thanks
05:20<El_Presidente>TobiX: many thanks
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05:36<kidpix3>is tor safe
05:37<kidpix3>what if it attacks me
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06:03<shadow_>TobiX: reason enough why I opted for the Intel S3500 series SSD w/ power loss protection circuit, even in a laptop
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07:04<El_Presidente>would you fine wolks mind sharing your WM/Desktop Enviornment? I'm curious as to what is being used by debian users
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07:05<El_Presidente>folks*
07:05<El_Presidente>myself using XFCE
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07:07<petn-randall>El_Presidente: Please, no surveys on IRC. You can ask popcon far more effectively for that.
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07:08<petn-randall>!tell El_Presidente -about bad polls
07:08<petn-randall>!tell El_Presidente -about popcon
07:08<El_Presidente>mm ok. I was only trying to start a chat.. not surveying.
07:09<petn-randall>El_Presidente: Ah, in that case you may chat about it on #debian-offtopic (to keep this channel free for support requests). See you there!
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07:34<Linnak>Hi, What is the difference between jessie_di_beta_2 and weekly-builds?
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07:36<peter1138>Bah, network-manager won't start a VPN connection if it's not managing eth0 itself :(
07:37<peter1138>Which is awkward as I have set up bridging for kvm :S
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08:06<Bliepo>Hey everyone, I am trying to configure a freeradius server using the guide on deployingradius.com and the freeradius wiki, but I am stuck with the certificates, since I have no /etc/raddb directory
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08:16<Linnak>Which is more stable jessie beta 2 or daily builds?
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08:18<petn-randall>Linnak: Test the daily builds. If you're using them for other than testing the installer, using the stable installer and upgrading is probably a better idea.
08:19<Linnak>petn-randall: Ok thaks
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08:22<ig09474>#
08:22<ig09474>fkfa$fr
08:22<ig09474>efreqser
08:22<ig09474>tz
08:22<ig09474>tle monde est mal gait
08:22<ig09474>car cristiano
08:22<ig09474>pue la merde
08:22<ig09474>vive messi
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08:24<Zerooxx>g
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08:24<ig09474>tu ssert a rien
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08:24<ig09474>tu ne degage aucune energie
08:24<ig09474>tu es un chinois
08:25<Zerooxx>lol
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08:27<child>how can I remove nvidia proprietary drivers by binary installation?
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08:29<gsimmons>dpkg: tell child -about remove nvidia-installer
08:29<zathras>child, probably the installer installed either an uninstall script or the installer script wil have a commandline switch to uninstall
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08:31<child>zathras, it hasnt but seems the command gsimmons advice will work... I will try
08:31<child>thank you
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08:54<malik_>looking at debian and fsck handling i am a little confused. /etc/init.d/checkroot of the root file system is used to check the root file system. that seems odd.
08:54<malik_>then we use fsck of the root file system (mounted read only) to modify the root file system. that too seems problematic.
08:54<malik_>can somebody clear this up for me?
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09:00<Brigo>malik_, initrd
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09:01<malik_>Brigo: i expected this to be handled in the initrd, yes. but to me it seems it is not. i just unpacked the initrd of my system, grepped for fsck, nothing
09:02<malik_>look further i saw that it seems to be handled by /etc/init.d/checkroot of the rootfs
09:02<Brigo>i expect this to be handled in the initrd too, if not i can help you, sorry.
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10:11<depp>I'm having problems with initramfs not unlocking an encrypted root
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10:12<depp>I just installed & upgraded to Sid, and Sid doesn't even try to unlock root
10:12<petn-randall>depp: jessie/sid are supported in #debian-next.
10:12<depp>ah, ok...
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10:13<petn-randall>depp: Yepp, see you there :)
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10:27<karol>hi
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10:35<francis_>oh i can't use a lvm for more than images
10:36<francis_>oops wrong channel
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10:46<emmausemmaus> I am with debian on PowerPc can i use the power button to shutdown gracefully debian
10:46<emmausemmaus>can i see if the kernel even "sees" the power button event ?
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10:57*TeslasMHD smokes a good hand rolled PL88 virginia blend.
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10:59<john>Wogy!
11:00<Zathraz>how can configure that service X starts after service Y (logstash-web only after elasticseach has been started) please?
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11:00<Zathraz>iirc there was an easy trick for this. Just cannot remember it
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11:02<abrotman>Zathraz: what is your init system?
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11:04<Zathraz>insserv / sysvinit
11:04<abrotman>Zathraz: you can change the numbers in rc2.d for the symlink
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11:05<Zathraz>abrotman, yes, I thought so, but isn't there a cleaner solution for this (a tool to manage it, or editing the LSB tags or something) ?
11:06<abrotman>Zathraz: You can try with the LSB tags if you want
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11:52<wsy>I am running Wheezy on a Macbook Pro, and did "apt-get update" then "apt-get dist-upgrade". The result is that now the system goes to the "OH NO! Something has gone wrong!" fullscreen if I try to boot it normally (I can boot singleuser and ctl-alt-Fn; in fact that's what I'm doing right now.)
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11:53<wsy>The most recent dist-upgrade was like a week earlier.
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11:54<wsy>Once I log in as a console user, doing "startx" gets to the same "Oh No! Something has gone wrong" screen. Yet the X server logs show no error!
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13:35<oshirix>yea
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13:36<oshirix>hello
13:37<oshirix>??
13:37<oshirix>=.=
13:37<Maulkin>!ask
13:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:39<oshirix>ok
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14:04<vincenzo>!ciao
14:04<dpkg>hmm... ciao is both hello and goodbye (casual), or a slow and old but widely known Prolog interpreter.
14:04<vincenzo>!list
14:04<dpkg>vincenzo: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.7.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
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14:19<shadow_>didn't get wsy in time
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14:23<houj_n>what's a recommended notetaking program?
14:23<devil_>basket, zim...
14:23<shadow>text or handwriting?
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14:26<Maulkin>tomboy?
14:27<houj_n>text
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15:04<peter1138>gnome 3's screenlock is terrible with multiple monitors :S
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15:14<shadow>I do wish there was an alternate "classic mode" for screen lock
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15:22<tene_>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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15:27<child>is there a way to install automatically the dependencies before you compile a package? like a package to run with configure checking dependencies ?
15:28<dondelelcaro>child: if it's a Debian package, you can apt-get build-dep foo; You may also try auto-apt
15:28<MasterPiece>child, apt-get build-dep PACKAGE
15:28<child>if its not a debian package ?
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15:29<MasterPiece>child, :)) apt works only for debian packages
15:30<MasterPiece>otherwise, it depends on your package
15:30<MasterPiece>read the package README file
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15:30<child>I think is auto-apt what I am looking for...
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15:30<child>thank you guys
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15:41<El_Presidente>hi child; did you solve your nvidia driver issue?
15:42<child>I did El_Presidente
15:42<child>hello ,by the way
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15:42<child>I removed the older one and worked
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15:43<El_Presidente>child: glad to hear that
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15:44<child>yeah Its good
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15:48<mouah>hi, I think I might need some help with properly using tightvncserver on Debian Wheezy
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15:49<mouah>currently things only work when I run tightvncserver as root (I can connect from a client and interact), if I run with my non root account, all I get is a frozen desktop
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15:57<mouah>oh, well, have tried with the default app (Vino ?), it works
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15:57<mouah>yet not understanding why tightvncserver didn't work is kind of frustrating
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16:04<shadow>yep
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16:15<spawn>algum brasileiro ?
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16:32<ixi>!br
16:32<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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17:08<bael>hello
17:08<bael>I have a question
17:09<bael>I tested iperf and I get 80mbit/s between my laptop and my debian server using Wlan.. and using Lan I get 1gbit/s
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17:09<bael>but when I am using samba I get 2mbit/s Wlan and 6mbit/s Lan.
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17:09<bael>anyone? :)
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18:18<cqx>hi
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18:19<mark_>Hi there. Noob here. Installed Debian (jessie) on my macbook but i'm getting 'iw command not found' even though it says it's installed. (Trying to get wifi working)
18:19<mark_>without gui
18:19<mark_>had similar issues with wireless-tools commands
18:19<mtn>mark_: running it as root?
18:19<mark_>d'oh... no i'll try that. Thanks
18:20<mark_>got to run, that was quick help thanks again
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18:20<cqx>debian on macbook ?
18:20<cqx>wtf
18:21<cqx>are there boots on this channel ?
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18:22<devil_>cqx: there is bots
18:22<cqx>dude just forgot to be a root ?
18:22<devil_>cqx: what are you on about?
18:22<cqx>heh yeah..
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18:23<cqx>nothing much for now, long time I haven't use irc..
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18:24<cqx>another time I will come back with some issues I have :)
18:24<cqx>its good to know someone is here.
18:25<cqx>bye
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18:33<kaminary>Hello, I'm getting and error when executing vlc that keeps making the screen black and back to normal: [00007fe10cc1a538] vaapi_x11 generic error: Failed to initialize the VAAPI device[00007fe0f4001268] xcb_xv vout display error: no available XVideo adaptor
18:33<kaminary>any idea of what can this be?
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18:47<awal>kaminary, try reseting vlc
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19:11<El_Presidente>change output driver
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20:03<linuser>sup?
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20:04<magicodeoz>alguem manja algum server h4ck3r brasil
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20:05<magicodeoz>who was linuser
20:05<devil_>!pt
20:05<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
20:06<magicodeoz>thanks
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20:24<mrocha>Hi
20:24<pudor>hi all! help me please with nvidia-legacy driver it does not work:-(
20:25<topcyde>pudor: try a more targeted question
20:25<retrospectacus>details, man!
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20:25<pudor>i have asrock k7s41gx and asus riva tnt2 videocard
20:26<pudor>it does not work in 3d mode
20:26<topcyde>debian version and what is/not happening.
20:26<pudor>error load 'nv' driver in x.org.log
20:26<pudor>wheezy
20:27<topcyde>version #
20:27<pudor>'nv' driver does not exist
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20:27<pudor>71xx
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20:28<topcyde>did you download the non-free drivers?
20:28<pudor>i have installed nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx
20:29<pudor>blank screen after gdm start
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20:29<pudor>black screen with _
20:30<pudor>what to do next?
20:31<topcyde>does it work in terminal?
20:31<pudor>official nvidia-installer give error that it did not found nvidia.ko module
20:32<pudor>work
20:32<pudor>in terminal and without driver but glx indirect
20:33<pudor>topcyde do you think that 3d mode is hardware poblem?
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20:33<pudor>problem
20:34<topcyde>it's possible, but you may have to modprobe the nvidia.ko module
20:35<pudor>when?
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20:37<pudor>after blank screen in ctrl-alt-f1 terminal under root and then startx?
20:37<pudor>after installing non-free driver?
20:37<topcyde>try now and see if it works and id not then try the nvidia installer again
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20:51<sleser>does ark unpack few rar files at a time and to its folder sub folder ?
20:52<sleser>tar files
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21:55<prasi>there
21:55<prasi>help
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22:04<nick> hello?why we say the commands like 'cp' can't used on character devices?
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22:34<fchmmr>Hey, if I'm on thunderbird and I rename ~/.icedove when switching to Icedove, will it work?
22:34<fchmmr>(haven't switched to icedove yet)
22:34<fchmmr>wondering if anyone tried this...
22:35<fchmmr>mv ~/.thunderbird ~/.icedove
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22:49<drewdavis>fchmmr: I personally am not aware of any issues doing what you describe, but try it in a test user first. That way you can be sure.
22:49<fchmmr>I have backups, so it should be ok.
22:51<drewdavis>Well shoot, go crazy.
22:51<fchmmr>thanks.
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22:54<fchmmr>btw, this is for another distro that has icedove in it
22:54<fchmmr>My beaglebone black came with debian, though.
22:55<fchmmr>I'll ask them if i have any isssues... .thanks
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23:09<ubuntu__>my pe is itching
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23:28<houj_n>why does extracting a tgz file take years when i right click and try to extract it? but it's instant when i bash extract it?
23:32<lcmabc>What distribution should i add in /etc/apt/sources.list to upgrade from wheezy 7.6 to 7.7
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23:37<topcyde>nothing just apt-get update upgrade
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23:38<topcyde>correction apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
23:38<topcyde>maybe throw a sudo in there
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23:40<lcmabc>Topcyde:thx, after upgraded, i check with lsb_release, but it still display wheezy 7.6
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23:42<lcmabc>I put wheezy/updates main in my sources.list
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