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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-11-30

---Logopened Sun Nov 30 00:00:19 2014
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01:33<clarence>Does Linux have such Acrobat-like program?
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01:33<d34d1>does anyone know about installing steam on debian?
01:34<d34d1>tried running the .deb and it has a not satisfiable dependency
01:38<d34d1>libc6(>=2.15)
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01:56<maurom>clarence: do you mean a program to make pdfs or to view pdfs? libreoffice can save pdfs, and evince or okular can show them
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01:57<shadow>clarence: 'evince' is good and that is what I use
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01:58<shadow>clarence: if you need to fill out forms, try 'xournal' which is handwriting notes program that can load PDF as a background and export with top layer back into PDF
01:59<shadow>also 'inkscape' can load PDFs but the results are hmm, not perfect
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02:15<clarence>maurom:I mean edit the files after they get converted to pdf
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02:21<SavKobani>hi
02:21<SavKobani>is there a way so my traffic is blocked if i am not connected to a certain vpn?
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02:24<maurom>clarence: oh that's a different thing. there's a package that allows libreoffice to open pdf files and edit them, but it depends a lot on the structure of that file
02:25<maurom>i don't Know of anything similar
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02:26<clarence>Libreoffice draw?
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02:34<maurom>yep, that's right
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02:54<sleser>guys is there sutch thing a virtual russian keyboard for debian
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02:54<sleser>id like to have a russian virtual and english fisical
02:54<sleser>both
02:54<sleser>is that posible ?
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02:58<shadow>clarence: try for editing pdf files: xournal, inkscape, pdftk
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02:59<clarence>inkscape?
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03:06<ken>does anyone know what packages i need to backport to get netflix to work on wheezy?
03:06<ken>i read one place it was libnss3, but that says its the same version
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07:45<clarence>how to type foreign languages? locales?
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08:03<Marillion>clarence: setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout us -option "" did mean that? you could change *us* for others
08:05<clarence>Marillion: change? and I do not get what you said
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08:09<Marillion>clarence: and what is your foreign languages?
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08:11<clarence>Mandarin for native language, want to type Spanish. Marillion
08:13<Marillion>clarence: ok, schange *us* to *es*
08:15<Marillion>and if you want the system write spanish messages then is locales that what you want, right
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08:20<clarence>"dpkg-reconfigure locales"? Marillion
08:20<Marillion>yes
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08:24<Marillion>clarence: but why did you NOT take the right language by the installation? the debian-installer asking you for that
08:25<clarence>Marillion: Because I still learning it.
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08:27<clarence>I installed English before, but libreoffice did not show Mandarin( although I had installed the locales)
08:27<clarence>Also, I installed English with no localization.
08:28<clarence>and, yes,libreoffice still cannot show mandarin correctly.
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08:28<clarence>untill I installed Traditional Chinese edtion, while the installer asked me
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08:29<Marillion>clarence: libreoffice had libreoffice-l10n-es
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08:30<Marillion>clarence: for a long time
08:31<clarence>how do I know libreoffice support what languages?( did not know that before you mention it) any command can check?
08:32<Marillion>clarence: yes, type "apt-cache search libreoffice"
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08:32<Marillion>and you get all packages with that pattern
08:32<clarence>thank you
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08:34<Marillion>clarence: no problem, and you would like to read in the future: http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/installmanual
08:35<clarence>installing guide?
08:35<Marillion>yes
08:35<Marillion>and more
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08:54<clarence>I cannot do "cp rarfiles.lst /etc" while I want to install rar
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08:57<Marillion>clarence: you wont install (cp like) rar file to /etc , unrar is what you want
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08:58<clarence>I copy both files that you mentioned, I got that error because the "makefile" said so
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09:02<Marillion>clarence: explain what you want exactly, maybe i could help
09:02<clarence>install rar correctly
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09:04<Marillion>install rar is: apt-get install rar
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09:05<clarence>E: Package 'rar' has no installation candidate
09:05<Marillion>rar is non-free
09:05<Marillion>change your source_list
09:06<ompaul>,v rar
09:06<judd>Package: rar on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 2:3.9.3-1; wheezy/non-free: 2:4.0.b3-1; jessie/non-free: 2:4.2.0-1; sid/non-free: 2:4.2.0-1
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09:09<clarence>Cannot use arrow keys , delete , home and end, page up and down,insert
09:09<clarence>on my keyboard
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09:15<Marillion>clarence: did you have execute my command like: setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc105....?
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09:16<clarence>yes, Marillion nothing happen
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09:21<Marillion>clarence: if yes, it possible that your keyboard has a different layout, i mean *pc105* tell the kbmap how many tastatur botton you have now (immediately) change you to that right size
09:22<clarence>105?
09:22<Marillion>pc105 is ibm normally
09:23<clarence>My keyboard is Logitech K120
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09:26<Marillion>qwerty? us layout, hmm, i've no idea
09:26<clarence>yes, qwerty
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09:27<Marillion>but is an ordinary keyboard, wierd
09:27<clarence>I also type setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc104
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09:27<clarence>and again, nothing heppen
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09:29<Marillion>clarence: try reboot, that is a stupid situation
09:29<clarence>ok
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09:32*TeslasMHD enjoys a tasty cup of coffee.
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09:40<clarence>The problem has been solved.
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09:42<MasterPiece>HelloOoO, What is channel about debian repository management ?
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09:43<Marillion>clarence: awesome
09:43<Marillion>MasterPiece: is that a question?
09:44<MasterPiece>yes, I wanna the name of that channel
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09:44<Marillion>MasterPiece: why?
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09:45<MasterPiece>I want to setup our repository which is based on Debian repositories and manage the upstream and the Community Commits
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09:45<MasterPiece>with the debian patches and Our patches and the community patches ( patches -> or commits )
09:45<MasterPiece>and build again the packages
09:46<MasterPiece>Marillion, ^
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09:49<Marillion>MasterPiece: deb-src in your source_list is what you need for your information ehat you want
09:49<Marillion>s/ehat/what
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09:54<MasterPiece>Marillion, I want to manage our repository which is based on Debian
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09:57<MasterPiece>Marillion, I will be the manager of the our team and we are working around Our Country O.S
09:58<MasterPiece>Since many net traffic will be used to download the packages by each user, we wanna create local repo from the mirror (mirror.xamin.ir/debian)
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09:59<MasterPiece>and I have some problem in managing the issues in the repository, Like how to manage the community commits and our commits with merging to the upstream ( Debian )
09:59<MasterPiece>Marillion, ^
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10:06<Marillion>MasterPiece: you must merging your own patches in your repository for each packages, and could asking the maintainer of debian package if he want patches from derivative Maintainers
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10:07<SynrG>MasterPiece: do your needs and goals sufficiently diverge from Debian's own needs and goals that you need to make your work be a derivative? Or could you work within Debian to accomplish what you want to do?
10:07<SynrG>because the latter is preferable, if you can
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10:10<MasterPiece>SynrG, Our needs and goal is is $(Debian's Needs and goals + Upstream merging management[upstream patch management which is debian patches, upstream source management which is the debian's upstream])
10:11<SynrG>that's a bit vague. debian maintainers do their best to merge whatever patches are necessary to make the packages continue to work for debian's users. debian maintainers also do their best to send such patches of their own upstream ...
10:12<SynrG>MasterPiece: what makes your project distinct?
10:12<MasterPiece>Marillion, We want to ease it to our community with providing auto build system and management as long as they can maintain their packages in our repository
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10:13<SynrG>what will make it better the way your project handles patches than how Debian is doing things now? or to put it another way, how do you think Debian could improve to serve your users better?
10:13<MasterPiece>SynrG, I'm in typing :D w8 ;)
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10:15<MasterPiece>SynrG, we have a problem, at the moment, we can't update our maintaining packages with upstream (Debian), because of we don't have a solution to handling two subproblem :
10:15<MasterPiece>1.
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10:16<MasterPiece>We patched some of the debian packages and save that patch in the debian/patches in order to don't touching the main source, so if the debian creates a new patch, we will be have some problem to merging our patches and debian patches
10:16<MasterPiece>2.
10:17<MasterPiece>we want to package some of the source which is unpackaged yet, like lessfs
10:18<Marillion>MasterPiece: before you explain your situation exactly, each maintainer by Debian have the own decision what he want to do with Derivatives
10:18<MasterPiece>Marillion, but where is the "Build System" and "Management System" in these eco systems?!!!
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10:19<MasterPiece>Marillion, Tell me to explain whats our problem please
10:19<Marillion>MasterPiece: is your problem, NOT Debian issues
10:19<SynrG>i don't know the nature of problem 1, so that part doesn't really answer my question about the distinctness of your project. as for 2, consider if what you really want is a sort of "debian + extras" derivative instead of replicating the whole debian infrastructure (i.e. just make a repo for the extras)
10:19<SynrG>what would make the patches of subproblem 1 not acceptable to get accepted directly into debian instead?
10:20<MasterPiece>SynrG, Since debian does't accept our patches
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10:21<MasterPiece>SynrG, Since debian does'nt accepts our patches
10:21<MasterPiece>Marillion, Yes, this is Our ISSUE, I can't explain it?!
10:21<Marillion>MasterPiece: before you explain your situation exactly, each maintainer by Debian have the own decision what he want to do with Derivatives
10:21<Marillion>that what i did to tell you
10:22<SynrG>MasterPiece: for what reason (or reasons) were they rejected?
10:23<MasterPiece>SynrG, I don't know, and I never ask this from our Project Moderator
10:23<MasterPiece>Marillion, Can you help me to overcome this problem?! instead of making another problem please?!!! :D
10:24<Marillion>MasterPiece: you're a bad manager, asking your Project Moderator why are Debian rejected your patches
10:25<Marillion>and come back later
10:25<MasterPiece>Marillion, :D Thanks for your honestly speaking ;)
10:27<SynrG>MasterPiece: i won't speak for Marillion, but from my perspective, getting answers to these "other problems" *is* the problem. a derivative that doesn't know why it exists (other than "debian didn't accept our patches") will not last very long.
10:27<SynrG>you need a singleness of purpose, a sense of your identity as a derivative, a knowledge of what makes you unique, what value you add to debian ...
10:27<vrkalak>the various Packages must be submitted before Testing is 'frozen'
10:27<SynrG>what makes your derivative a special thing, something that could not have been accomplished within Debian itself.
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10:29<MasterPiece>SynrG, vrkalak and Marillion , Thanks
10:29<MasterPiece>can I ask a question please?!! :D
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10:29<Marillion>maybe
10:30<vrkalak>yes
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10:30<MasterPiece>what is the debian repository management system? and where is the source code
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10:31<ansgar>MasterPiece: Debian's offical archives are managed with dak.
10:31<vrkalak>try > #debian-mentors
10:31<Guest40>##Computer-Help-Chat
10:32<ansgar>MasterPiece: Though if you don't know fairly well how packaging in general and the flow of packages in Debian in particular work, I would not recommend using it.
10:32<ansgar>MasterPiece: The documentation is mostly lacking...
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10:32<weng>e
10:32<weng>
10:32<vrkalak>MasterPiece, Topic for #debian-mentors is: Get help creating packages for the Debian archive |
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10:34<MasterPiece>ansgar, Thanks in advanced, its will be helpful to me, I know the debian packaging best ;)
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10:37<weng>who is using linuxmint
10:37<Marillion>!linuxmint
10:37<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
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10:38<weng>yeah
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10:39<weng>what is the software
10:39<weng>how to play
10:39<sney>weng: go to #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for your mint questions, you are in the wrong channel
10:39<weng>ok
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10:41<shane_>I think I finally figured it out
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10:51<awal>How to reboot computer from xdm?
10:52<awal>or halt it
10:52<SynrG>dpkg --purge xdm ; apt-get install lightdm
10:52*dpkg drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up xdm ; apt-get install lightdm all over synrg and bofh80...
10:52<SynrG>why use something so archaic?
10:53<awal>SynrG, I have lightdm yet. Just trying things here :)
10:55<SynrG>google?
10:55<awal>with slim one must type reboot/halt and give password. but with xdm, editing more system files is needed?
10:55<SynrG>http://cafim.sssup.it/~giulio/other/Customization_XDM.html
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10:55<awal>SynrG, I always google before ask but sometimes I'm lost
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10:56<SynrG>i googled: xdm shutdown
10:56<SynrG>this was the first hit. was that so hard? :)
10:58<bofh80>maybe he wasn't "feeling lucky" !
10:59<awal>SynrG, really I seen that link yet before I ask, but thanks
11:00<awal>but there is no mention on how to reboot&halt the machine when in xdm
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11:01<SynrG>xmessage -buttons Shutdown:20,Reboot:21 "" ;
11:01<SynrG>it not only mentions it but gives the code to do it. guess you skimmed?
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11:05<SynrG>awal: read the whole article. the one line i gave was only the message dialog. the script then reads the response to that dialog and either halts or reboots
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11:06<awal>SynrG, hmm, I'm reading yeah. I'll try to understand and apply :)
11:06<awal>hard for a newbie
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11:08<awal>what I would like get is just type "reboot" or "halt" in login screen then give root pass as it's done with slim
11:08<awal>but it's ok. I have time and several machines for try things :)
11:08<awal>thanks, SynrG
11:08<SynrG>that's not a "what", but a "how"
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11:09<awal>right , "how" :)
11:10<SynrG>the article i linked says exactly how. and it's not hard, if you actually read it.
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11:10<SynrG>Debian's xdm has /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config, as the article says.
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11:11<SynrG>you can edit that to add "DisplayManager._0.setup: /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_my"
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11:11<SynrG>you can then create that file, /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_my, with whatever commands you want
11:11<SynrG>the third section of that is what you want
11:11<SynrG>the one that starts "#--- set Shutdown/Reboot buttons"
11:11<SynrG>you can ignore the rest.
11:12<SynrG>just make sure you have xmessage. in Debian that's in the package x11-utils
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11:14<SynrG>because xdm runs as root, no password is required. but this is not a problem for the normal case where a person needs physical access to the system, as they could just ctrl-alt-f1, ctrl-alt-del in any case.
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11:17<awal>SynrG, Ok. Thanks for your guidance and suggestions. I'll do what is necessary quietly later:)
11:17<SynrG>if you want to prompt for root password, you can wrap the commands with gksu
11:17<awal>ok
11:18<SynrG>that is, the poweroff and reboot commands themselves.
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11:22<awal>Ok, SynrG. thanks.
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11:35<francisca>hi all
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11:39<xeb>is this weird/bug? https://0bin.zertrin.org/paste/bc7710599c0f99e0c3f1f5727252bd94cf966a32#E4goJCIxtzvbnTmQjfsXYmjD5biUyN/gxxvWYNjoEt8=
11:39<xeb>(Sorry, command-not-found has crashed!)
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11:39<xeb>(no way i'm going anywhere near launchpad to file bug reports though, so don't anyone get any crazy ideas; maybe we all walk away from this alive)
11:40<Marillion>xeb: here is NOT ubuntu
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11:40<xeb>meh, close enough
11:40<Marillion>bsc: please stop the stupid nick-changes
11:41<xeb>i don't like it here already
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11:41<bsc>Marillion, ah.. sorry.. that's coz I am active in some other channels and need to inform my peers.. sorry.. will keep it in mind
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11:56<andro_>hello
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12:02<rippa>hi
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12:02<rippa>this where the cool kids hang?
12:03<topcyde>nope just a bunch of linux nerds
12:03<koollman>nah. this is where the old guys stay
12:03<rippa>lol
12:03<rippa>im just checking anonymous os out
12:04<rippa>the dos attack tools are fake
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12:04<Apollo>not the place
12:04<rippa>cool looking flashy and not even 1 on anyones system has ever sent a ping..lol
12:04<Apollo>not the place
12:04<sney>and the irc client points you to the wrong place by default. sounds like standard pointless derivative to me
12:05<rippa>not the place??
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12:05<sney>this channel is for help with debian. you are not using debian and you're not asking for help.
12:05<sney>ergo
12:05<rippa>lmao
12:05<rippa>WOT ergo????
12:05<rippa>LOL
12:06<sney>there are thousands of irc channels. please find one that's appropriate for what you're doing.
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12:06<rippa>you kids rather dry
12:07<rippa>as if this box is even or ever was to help anyone at all in any point of time ever
12:07<topcyde>old guys, and you're standing on the lawn
12:07<rippa>this like any other place with humans in it..its to chat
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12:07<sney>is it so strange that some irc channels might have rules
12:08<sney>and/or specific purposes
12:08<sney>there are entire networks where you can pretend to be a hacker. why don't you go find one of those?
12:08<rippa>ya but no lose if i was to be kicked..ill never be back anyways
12:08<sney>just take your toys and leave already. we don't care.
12:08<topcyde>then get off the lawn
12:08<rippa>noone said anyting about hacking
12:08<rippa>other then you
12:09<rippa>no pat on a back for taking a ric box off its loop anywayz rather childs play
12:09<rippa>;)
12:09<sney>haha, right. you're the only person in the world who knows what 'anonymous os' implies, the rest of us have never heard of that sort of thing, we're just a bunch of dry old men. must be fun to be delusional
12:09<rippa>well sure but noone knows the tools are fake
12:09<rippa>thats all i said to start with
12:10<rippa>little meaning of me saying im a hacker
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12:10<rippa>you wanted me to say that
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12:10<sney>no, I said you could pretend to be a hacker, and you could do it somewhere that's not #debian.
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12:11<sney>it's healthy to have fantasies but we would prefer you do it somewhere else.
12:11<rippa>weird would be you droping off the internet in the next 3 mins ;)
12:11<rippa>say by
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12:11<rippa>say good bi to ya friends now because shit winds coming
12:12<rippa>;)
12:12<sney>are you counting down? that's adorable
12:12<rippa>na about how long give or take
12:12<rippa>wile chating
12:12<rippa>ya know
12:12<rippa>nothing big really
12:12<sney>right. I'm sure I'll be eating my words shortly.
12:12<rippa>just you dissconnecting
12:12<rippa>;)
12:12<rippa>na you will just log back in like thay all do
12:13<rippa>how am i sounding? this is what you wanted me to do
12:13<rippa>;)
12:13<rippa>you fell inside your own idea of what i should be doing
12:13<sney>oh we were pretending! you're getting it! but you're still in the wrong place, mate
12:13<rippa>how do you feel
12:13<sney>!ops rippa needs help finding the kids' table
12:13<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: sney complains about: rippa needs help finding the kids' table
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12:14<rippa>sney got played with her own idea and now shes upset..not my failt realy
12:14<sney>there's probably a nice rp cyberpunk channel on efnet that would suit you
12:14<Marillion>sney: don't feed the troll
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12:15<rippa>lol@ you biting your fingernails in fear for 5 full mins
12:15<sney>Marillion: but this one writes itself. ok, I'll stop
12:15<rippa>sney this room is for helping others please find somewhere elts to chat
12:16<rippa>see how asshole that sounds?
12:16<Marillion>sney: ignore him, i'm too
12:16<sney>indeed.
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12:18<rippa>when you feel as you cant out witty me ignore me its that easy ,you can pretend you won
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12:22<Apollo>boo
12:22<Apollo>ooh, comcast does ipv6, cool
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12:24<SynrG>rippa: you're offtopic. this channel is for debian support. have a nice day
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12:30<awal>:)
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12:31<awal>One must be really bored for go and bother in irc channel's. I don't understand the utility of being a troll.
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12:34<topcyde>awal: boredom, and being entertained by harassing other people because they can't walk off or physically punch you in the face once you've crossed the line.
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12:39<awal>topcyde, I believe it's pathological, but anyway...
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12:39<awal>During installation debian installer detects wifi automatically. But If I do a minimal install, without a desktop environment, and after installation finished I dont have connection to wifi when in tty. If I install a DM ofcourse I have connection to wifi. Why the wifi is detected and connected during installation but NO if no DM installed?
12:40<awal>NO after install finish and being in tty
12:41<awal>So usually I edit /etc/network/interfaces and make change manually for wlan0
12:42<awal>I put in 2 lines: auto wlan0 and iface wla0 inet dhcp
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12:43<awal>I'm doing good or there is another way for enable the wifi (wlan0) enabled and configured yet during installation?
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12:43<awal>without editing network interfaces, I mean
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12:46<awal>no DM, I mean DE :)
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12:53<anonnumberanon>Hello I'm in Xfce Terminal Emulator (Terminal 0.4.8) and I would like to change the color of the user directory prompt to something different than the rest, is there a way to do that?
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12:53<kleiber>any that talk spanish
12:53<kleiber>need help with java 8 in debian
12:54<kleiber>today install java 8 and can't see web in java
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12:54<Allaman>anonnumberanon: http://bashrcgenerator.com/ you can click a custom layout and paste the generated line into your .bashrc
12:55<anonnumberanon>oh thanks you very much Allaman
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13:05<ompaul_>!es
13:05<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
13:05<ompaul_>,v java
13:05<judd>No package named 'java' was found in i386.
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13:06<kleiber>any that can help with java 8 for debian 7 wheezy
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13:08<kleiber>any that talk spanish
13:08<kleiber>please
13:08<Marillion>!es
13:08<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
13:09<kleiber>thx friend
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13:19<exoplanet>Is the version of BTRFS (or the tools) stable in Jessie when it is stable?
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13:27<Randy_C>testing is this working?
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13:30<musca>Randy_C: you reached the debian GNU/Linux support channel. We are awaiting your detailed questions.
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13:32<Randy_C>Ok here's the situation. I had a machine running debian and the hard drive went bad.
13:32<Randy_C>I've replaced it and now the machine is working.
13:33<Randy_C>I want to recover the data on the old drive. The area whwere the directory, catalog, fat had been dammaged
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13:34<Randy_C>I tested the drive with the manufacture's software on a windows machine and most of it is readable.
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13:36<Randy_C>I'm looking for softwaer under linux tghat will read the entire drive and reconstruct the directory and allow me to save my data files.
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13:37<musca>there photorec from the testdisk package
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13:39<musca>it is able to ignore the destroyed filesystem structure and investigates the data blocks
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13:39<Nemoder>you could try dd (or gddrescue) to image the data onto another drive and then see if fsck can recover the partition
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13:41<MasterPiece>ansgar, Hello again, you told me about 3 hours ago that the debian uses DAK to manage the repository, its ok, Can you tell me how debian aware's of the update in order to build it again? I think debian package maintainers would be check it and then update their packages, is it true?
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13:45<Randy_C>I've installed both the testdisk and gddrescue I can't find them in the xwinods menus
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14:02<Randy_C>I've installed both the testdisk and gddrescue I can't find them in the xwinods menus
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14:03<mtn>Randy_C: you run those from the command line, don't you?
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14:07<Randy_C>I got photorec running it seems to be going to recover a lot of the data
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14:08<Randy_C>It's reporting 2.5 hours to complete
14:09<Randy_C>.pdf files are not in the list unless they're in the other catagory
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14:15<name>salut toute le monde
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14:18<ompaul>!fr
14:18<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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14:58<ko>hi there
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15:21<lord>Hi guys, is anyone interested in helping me fix my computer which i attempted to update to jessie, and everything broke, so now I'm just trying to get back to what I had before I broke it
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15:22<mtn>lord: reinstall is going to be the easiest and best.
15:23<lord>mtn: Yeah, I figured. I've just got a bunch of crap I would rather not have to set up again..
15:24<mtn>lord: debian does not support downgrading, so.....
15:24<mtn>lord: you can back up your configs and files before reinstalling. that should help.
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15:26<lord>This tutorial (http://goo.gl/FUighz) is what I was going to try to do, but a bunch of my packages are broken and so aptitude doesn't want to do anything
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15:29<lord>okay, well thanks anyways. I guess I'll reinstall
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15:55<laxman>hello there
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15:56<laxman>I am new to debian MX-14
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15:57<laxman>is there apt get command
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15:58<laxman>i would like to install chrome browser
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16:00<dancus>in a terminal digit "su -" enter the root password anthen digit "apt-get install chromium"
16:04<laxman>thanks dancus
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17:48<manuelcaveira>hey people I am having problems with installing QtXml in my debian, could anybody give me a hand?
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17:53<Brigo>manuelcaveira, what is that?
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18:04<manuelcaveira>Brigo, it's a qt package. Trying to write a program in Pyqt and I need that package but can't seem to get to work.
18:04<Brigo>did you installed it?
18:05<manuelcaveira>yes of course, I install the package python-pyside,qtxml but still get a QtXml not recognized message
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18:06<Brigo>manuelcaveira, then sorry, i know nothing about qt or xml.
18:07<manuelcaveira>ok , thanks
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18:14<manuelcaveira>ok , thanks
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20:22<ncl>is the man-db cron.daily script really needed, doesn't apt refresh the man-db after every install/remove operation?
20:23<abrotman>ncl: even if it did, that wouldn't cover man pages from outside of the package management?
20:25<ncl>Given that debian is often "don't install stuff without the package manager", it seems kind of weird to have a script run /daily/ to update something the package manager already does when needed
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20:26<ncl>Anyway, not a huge issue I guess, I just noticed it while monitoring disk usage
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20:36<El_Presidente>ncl: you mointor disk usage using what tool/program ?
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20:38<ncl>El_Presidente: iotop
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20:39<El_Presidente>ncl: thanks
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23:11<leeloo>welcome back
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23:29<sleser>guys any idia why flash video takes too long to load
23:30<sleser>inside iceweasel
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23:37<sleser>is that my side or streamers ? any advice is cool
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23:41<topcyde>both flash sucks
23:42<topcyde>... you said any advice
23:42<DesertRock>Thats not advice
23:43<topcyde>touche'
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23:46<sney>gnash sucks in a different way than flashplugin-nonfree
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23:46<sney>so, whichever one you're on, try the other
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