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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-12-06

---Logopened Sat Dec 06 00:00:10 2014
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00:07<mtldopey>quick question: qualcom atheros e2200 killer not supported?
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00:26<Lancelot>Hello, how do I autologin on startup?
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00:38<sleser>Lancelot chek inside system setings tool
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00:39<sleser>mine inside loging screen
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00:43<Lancelot>ok sleser, just found an option about daemon.conf, rebooting now to try if it works
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00:46<Lancelot>it worked...
00:48<Lancelot>A thing I noticed is that when I type in the dash to search for files, it doesnt work
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01:16<prieto>alguien
01:16<prieto>que es esto
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01:22<Lancelot>prieto: de donde sos?
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01:25<Laogeodritt>Lancelot: ya salió
01:25<Laogeodritt>Lancelot: also, «sos»?
01:26<Lancelot>no
01:26<Lancelot>its, ok, he left, trying to help him
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01:37<sleser>Lancelot for search to work you have to pute numopunk or something its called
01:37<sleser>it has to be on
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01:37<sleser>my speling is not rite but . that service has to be on i think
01:37<sleser>on mine i set it off . best thing to serach is from terminal
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01:38<Lancelot>numopunk, is it an extension?
01:38<Lancelot>sleser?
01:38<sleser>no its a app
01:38<Lancelot>so I apt-get install it, right?
01:38<sleser>chek inside system setings . desktop search that
01:38<Lancelot>ok
01:39<sleser>oh it was nupomuk
01:39<sleser>its inside the desktop search , inside system setings you will see it
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01:40<sleser>sorry nepomuk
01:40<Lancelot>found it, but I want it to work
01:40<Lancelot>when I open the dash
01:41<sleser>try the terminal command it works better then interfaces
01:41<Lancelot>what do you mean by terminal command?
01:41<sleser>like a command to search for file or folder ur looking to find
01:42<Lancelot>no, I need this for people who dont know nothing about computers
01:42<Lancelot>It has to be really easy
01:42<Lancelot>I need to open the dash and type for a file name and it has to show its location.
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01:44<sleser>well if nemopuk service is on in side where i taled you
01:44<sleser>it should work
01:44<sleser>if that service is off it wont work
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01:45<Lancelot>ok, its on, But I need something simpler.I mean, not opening nepomuk, but just hit the windows key and type for the file i want, like in windows 7
01:45<sleser>after you pute that service on
01:45<sleser>inside menue
01:46<sleser>type in find
01:46<Lancelot>ah, ok, i ll try it right now
01:46<sleser>there it should show something like find files/folders
01:46<sleser>that one should be as easy as it can get
01:47<sleser>i think you can drag that out of the menue and drop on desktop try also
01:47<sleser>so your people dosnt have to go to menue
01:47<Lancelot>no, it does not work
01:47<sleser>try reboot after service you puted on
01:47<sleser>search for file if dosnt works then i think the kde isnt fuly functional
01:48<Lancelot>I dont have kde, i have gnome 3
01:48<sleser>sorry i dont have gnome
01:48<sleser>google search it mean while some one who use gnome caan answer you here
01:49<sleser>bbl
01:49<Lancelot>thanks, already googled it, no success so far.
01:49<sleser>see if they have a diferent app with interface for linux whitch does file or folder search
01:49<sleser>for gnome and chek if apper has it
01:50<sleser>i dont know any other way
01:51<Lancelot>thanks for your dedication
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01:54<sleser>see this http://www.pc-freak.net/blog/tools-for-finding-files-containing-a-string-recursively-in-graphical-enviroments-gnome-kde-and-xfce-on-gnu-linux-and-freebsd/
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01:54<sleser>then chek that app in apper search it if debian has it
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01:59<anonymous_>hello
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02:18<ElvisN>happy holidays
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05:38<lancelot>Hello, I followed these instructions: http://docs.kali.org/general-use/install-nvidia-drivers-on-kali-linux, and now I want to revert that to nouveau again, how do I do it?
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05:40<olasd>do you use Debian?
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05:41<Apollo>!kali
05:41<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
05:41<Apollo>aka: not our problem
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05:43<lancelot>got it
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06:51<dreamer>hmmm, so I finally have a running stable from usb (dropped the raid1 setup though :/), however when I run the 3.16 kernel from backports the boot doesn't get past the init. it just hangs. any ideas?
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07:33<ckk>On a fresh jessie installation, it appears that the power.d/* and config.d/* scripts of pm-utils are not being picked up. Any idea what could be wrong? Is there something I need to tell systemd?
07:34<peter1138>Try #debian-next
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07:34<ckk>ok
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07:57<alin>hello
07:57<musca>hello alin
07:57<alin>how are you?
07:57<alin>i new on irc
07:57<musca>welcome alin
07:58<alin>now i install my first irc client on linux smuxi
07:58<alin>i am new on linux too
07:58<alin>thank you all
07:58<musca>you reached the debian linux support channel. Your questions are welcomed here.
07:59<alin>ok
07:59<alin>how i install hexchat in debian
07:59<Apollo>!smuxi
07:59<dpkg>smuxi (Smart MUltipleXed Irc) is an <irssi>-inspired IRC client for the <GNOME> desktop. The IRC session can run within the Smuxi server, allowing for <screen>-like detachment/reattachment. Written in C# and requires <mono>. http://www.smuxi.org/ #smuxi on irc.oftc.net.
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07:59<alin>7.7 whezzy distro
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08:00<alin>!hexchat
08:00<dpkg>HexChat (formerly XChat-WDK) is a fork of the <XChat> IRC client. Packaged for Debian <testing> and <wheezy-backports>. http://hexchat.org/ #hexchat on chat.freenode.net.
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08:00<musca>alin: so you need to add the debian backports repo
08:01<alin>ok
08:01<alin>where i found
08:01<musca>!bdo
08:01<dpkg>backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <wheezy backports>) and oldstable (<squeeze backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>.
08:01<alin>ok
08:01<alin>thank you
08:02<alin>i go to read
08:02<musca>yw
08:02<alin>have a nice day
08:02<alin>best distro debian
08:02<alin>bye
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09:27<allFred>?
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09:27<devil>?
09:28<devil>allFred: if you have a question, just ask
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10:12<pentaheadron>I am having some trouble using the fill gnome desktop, when I booted up, I got an error saying that my graphics card couldn't support it. I checked my system info and it says I have a Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209) . But I don't.. I have an intel 4400. Where can I find the driver for this graphics card?
10:12<pentaheadron>*full
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10:13<mtn>pentaheadron: which version of debian? that is always important ;)
10:13<pentaheadron>mtn: wheezy 7 thanks :)
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10:14<mtn>pentaheadron: I don't think you have any driver options. probably best to use a lighter desktop or run in gnome fallback mode
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10:14<mtn>pentaheadron: have you looked at the debian intel wiki?
10:15<mtn>pentaheadron: there may be some boot options that would help out in your situation
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10:16<pentaheadron>mtn: yes, but I couldn't find anything useful. I am in fallback right now. Will switching to a different desktop environment help?
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10:19<mtn>pentaheadron: yes, a lighter desktop may very well work fine. the forums might also be of some help: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=118103
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10:20<ufo-user>list!
10:21<pentaheadron>mtn: THANKS! :)
10:21<mtn>pentaheadron: welcome
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12:46<ninti>hi
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12:47<thesix>Hi
12:47<ninti>can anyone help me with my hybrid laptop and a external monitor?
12:47<thesix>maybe
12:47<ninti>i installed alreaddy bumblee etc
12:48<ninti>but my extrenal monitor is black always
12:48<thesix>do you use some kind of display manager?
12:49<ninti>no, i use only fluxbox
12:49<thesix>then you probably want to look at xrandr
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12:50<ninti>ah my error :)
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12:51<thesix>ninti: did you get my last message or were you offline already?
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12:51<ninti>i think, i was offline already :(
12:52<thesix>ninit: then you probably want to look at xrandr
12:52<ninti>im sorry, i wanted close only a window in irssi ^^
12:52<thesix>uh, sounds familiar ;)
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12:53<ninti>can i paste the output or what you need?
12:53<Rastus_Vernon>Hello. I get the following message whenever I attempt to do something with APT that affects packages, whether it is upgrading, removing or installing packages: http://hastebin.com/raw/fuxivuketu
12:53<Rastus_Vernon>apt-get check gives me this same error message and apt-get -f install does not fix anything.
12:53<thesix>ninti: sure, let's give it a try
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12:54<ninti>:D
12:54<ninti>Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
12:54<ninti>LVDS1 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 382mm x 215mm 1920x1080 60.0*+ 59.9 40.0 1680x1050 60.0 59.9 1600x1024 60.2 1400x1050 60.0 1280x1024 60.0 1440x900 59.9 1280x960 60.0 1360x768 59.8 60.0 1152x864 60.0 1024x768 60.0 800x600 60.3 56.2 640x480 59.9
12:54<ninti>VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
12:54<ninti>hmm
12:55<Rastus_Vernon>More specifically, this is what I get when I run apt-get -f install: http://hastebin.com/raw/dubonaruda
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12:55<thesix>ninti: yes, hm. it does not see your external monitor ... is the port (vga/hdmi/whatever) active?
12:55<Rastus_Vernon>It seems obvious some packages require cups >= 1.5.7-7 while others require 1.5.7-9.
12:56<Rastus_Vernon>What is less obvious is how to fix it; I don't desesperately need cups, so I could just get rid of it, but apt-get purge and apt-get remove don't work either.
12:57<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: the error is with the init script and the pre-removal script, not with apt-get
12:57<ninti>thesix: no, i dont know why, but is black, last time for years i see a lila line at left
12:57<thesix>Rastus_Vernon: the crude method would be to edit the init script and make it exit before it does anything. then dpkg will not complain. but that's crude ...
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12:58<thesix>ninti: hm, guess I won't be able to help you on this one remotely ...
12:58<Rastus_Vernon>thesix: Well, cups-daemon depends on exactly libcups2 at version 1.7.5-7, while cups depends on cups-daemon at version 1.7.5-9 or higher.
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12:58<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: dependencies have *nothing* do to with the error you pasted
12:58<Rastus_Vernon>But if I can just uninstall cups, cups-daemon and the like, I'll be happy.
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12:58<Rastus_Vernon>valdyn: Ok.
12:59<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: ( and thesix gave you an easy solution)
12:59<ninti>thesix: :D maybe i must install a software? which i forgot?
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12:59<thesix>ninti: yes, maybe you lack a driver ...
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13:00<Rastus_Vernon>What should I do to fix this, then?
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13:00<thesix>Rastus_Vernon: what I told you before ;)
13:00<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: start cups, then try again
13:00<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: if that does not work, modify the script
13:00<thesix>or that
13:00<ninti>i see, nvidia is on and otirun works good
13:00<ninti>optirun
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13:01<ninti>i tho maybe you have a idea :D
13:01<ninti>thesix: i forget always you nick :)
13:01<Rastus_Vernon>`/etc/init.d/cups start` gives me `[ ok ] Starting cups (via systemctl): cups.service.`
13:02<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: thats ok
13:02<ninti>hmm, can you help me with irssi maybe then?
13:02<Rastus_Vernon>Same message from apt-get -f install
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13:02<thesix>ninti: maybe, but it's a while since I last used it
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13:02<ninti>how can i start irssi with this channal and nickname?
13:03<ninti>thesix: which program is better then?
13:03<thesix>ninti: you can edit the irssi config. that ist ~/.irssi/config
13:04<Rastus_Vernon>Should I unpack the .deb, modify the init script in it and repack it somehow and try again?
13:04<thesix>ninti: first you add a snippet for the server (irc.oftc.net)
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13:04<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: no the script you need to modify is /etc/init.d/cups
13:04<thesix>ninti: then one for the chatnet
13:05<thesix>ninti: and then one for the channel
13:05<Rastus_Vernon>Ok.
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13:06<ninti>thesix: alright ^^
13:06<thesix>ninti: good luck :)
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13:07<Rastus_Vernon>valdyn: I added exit 0 at the top, after the environment variables, and have executed apt-get -f install again, only to get the same message.
13:07<ninti>thesix: ok, i try activate my monitor then come back :) cya
13:07<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: revert that change then, we do a different method
13:07<thesix>ninti: cu
13:08<ninti>exit ^^
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13:08<Rastus_Vernon>valdyn: Done.
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13:08<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: move /var/lib/dpkg/info/cups-daemon.prerm away
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13:09<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: show the new error
13:10<Rastus_Vernon>The new error... if there is one.
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13:11<Rastus_Vernon>valdyn: apt update && apt full-upgrade works all fine.
13:11<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: ok then
13:11<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: stuff like cups is not yet nicely fixed for systemd
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13:12<Rastus_Vernon>Should I leave cups in this state until jessie becomes stable?
13:12<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: cups is ok now
13:12<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: theres a new postrm script now
13:12<Rastus_Vernon>I'm not sure it was removed properly, though, since prerm was not executed.
13:12<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: and a new prerm script too
13:13<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: theoretically this could have broken things, but i dont expect this to be the case
13:13<Rastus_Vernon>Yep, there is a new prerm file.
13:14<Rastus_Vernon>Well, the problem, if I'm not mistaken, is that prerm wanted to stop cups and was not able to
13:14<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: yea, well, thats not a problem yet, but its related
13:14<Rastus_Vernon>so the worst thing that can have happened is... nothing
13:15<valdyn>Rastus_Vernon: stopping a job that is not even running shouldnt break the upgrade, but it did
13:16<Rastus_Vernon>I've glanced over prerm and it does nothing other than stop cups, except removing two configuration files but it does that before attempting to stop it. All should be fine. Thank you for the help!
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13:53<ppalikka>hi
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13:53<pentaheadron>to update from debian wheezy to jessie, is all that is needed to do, switch the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
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13:55<ppalikka>anybody here?
13:55<ppalikka>no
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13:57<pentaheadron>what about jessie testing?
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13:58<enyc>pentaheadron: jessie not released yet... ti thinjkk the instructions are normally in the release notes
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18:42<gt2908927>Hi, what's the simplest way to run a private cloud based on debian?
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18:48<topcyde>owncloud, you can pull it from the stable repo
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18:55<gt2908927>owncloud seems to be for personal use only, i need to create a cloud that unites 5 servers and manages virtual machines
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19:02<sney>try describing what you want without using the word "cloud"
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19:05<eDuarD>./
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19:08<gt2908927>the school i'm working for has 5 physical servers. i need to virtually unite them as one (computing, storage) and then create 2 or 3 virtual machines who will host a guest server os
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19:15<topcyde>well thats completely different from what you described
19:15<topcyde>all 5 servers in the same rack
19:16<topcyde>interrogative
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19:19<vook>I'm in the early stages of planning a xen cluster, it will probably contain about 10 servers, 80 cores total. Before I invest too much time, I thought I'd ask about it in here. What approaches are there? Can anyone point me in a general and relevant direction (I don't want setup an outdated environment). I need something that's both HPA and high availability.
19:20<vook>HPC rather
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19:22<vook>I'm finding a lot of docs, but so many are 7+ years old.
19:24<Marillion>Xen is dead, you would like *docker* or similar LXC
19:25<gt2908927>i'm not good enough with definitions, but, yes, it could be. i want the 5 servers to act as one
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19:27<vook>Marillion: well I've seen docker a bit, but I'll need something that can run VMS from multiple platforms, freebsd, who knows. I'll look into docker more though.
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19:28<topcyde>xen is dead?
19:29<devil>pretty much
19:29<DesertRock>How so?
19:29<vook>I confess, those kind of statements tend to make me suspicious. Dead means not in use, Xen is certainly still highly used.
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19:31<topcyde>I was surprised because that's news to me, and I've not heard anyone posit a replacement for it. That would be a huge void to have empty.
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19:32<sney>seems to be actively maintained too. reports of xen's death would seem to be exaggerated
19:33<rryoumaa>i still have an issue where "su - mainuser" as root says unable to cd. "su mainuser" says /bin/bash permission denied. "login mainuser" logs in then says unable to cd.
19:33<Marillion>Xen is maintained and used for old web-hoster, but NOT for the new clustering one
19:34<vook>can you back that statement up Marillion?
19:37<Marillion>vook: not really, but redhat jump out of this train, and this is a good reason, why i'm think it is dead
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19:37<vook>Amazon AWS did not
19:37<vook>EC2 is xen
19:37<Marillion>vook: EC2 is an old setup, yes
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19:38<vook>Well, I suppose this is a conversation for debian-offtopic, although I've nothing more to say.
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19:39<trololo>Hi all is it possible to have lxde and mate on same installation together and selecet everytime i log in which one a user want?
19:40<vook>yes
19:40<trololo>nice but how?
19:41<vook>just install both and make sure you have a display manager installed that allows you to pick at login.
19:41<vook>I'm sure lightdm can do this
19:43<mtn>vook: I think all dms do it. that is one of their main purposes
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19:46<trololo>vook, thanks I was thinking for that solution downloading mate atm :P
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20:01<rryoumaa>how do i find out all the filesystem parameters from an existing ext4 partition so that i can recreate them in a new partition using mkfs.ext4?
20:02<Marillion>rryoumaa: try kernel.org docs
20:02<rryoumaa>Marillion: isn't there just a command? i used debian installer to create it, and i just want to reproduce that using mkfs.ext4.
20:02*Marillion has never seeking for
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20:03<rryoumaa>if i just do mkfs.ext4, will i be equivalent to what the debian installer does by default for /?
20:04<bofh80_>rryoumaa: the debian installer stuff is all just shell script and it's hosted in a git repo, check out and grep it :)
20:04<Marillion>rryoumaa: or ask in debian-boot
20:04<bofh80_>indeed +1 that, but be prepared to wait a long time
20:05<Marillion>could be :)
20:08<rryoumaa>i have asked, thanks. there is little realistic hope to understand those shell scripts or the man page i think
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21:43<canaima>hola
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21:50<canaima_>hola
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22:40<wompa>Fdisk reports that my WD20EZRX 2TB drive has "Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes", can and/or should I change logical sector size? Or is the only concern the alignment of the partitions?
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22:45<stoiker>hey, I try to login and I get the error message: Xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp; xsession may exit with an error
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23:05<sleser>guys does any one know why would a speeker icon next to the clock change . every time i log in i have to go and fix it
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23:06<stoiker>define change
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23:06<martingale>also what desktop environment/window manager are you using?
23:07<sleser>kde
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23:07<sleser>like a normal speeker icon looks like . speeker and round semy cirles a few of them infront
23:07<sleser>when it not notmal it looks just speeker
23:08<sleser>what hapens is . master chanel changes from creative xfi to hda nvidia
23:08<sleser>kde wont remember what i set it to
23:09<martingale>you mean you have to reset it every time you log in?
23:09<sleser>i have to set it to the rite one . xfi
23:09<martingale>or it is changing it back while you are still logged in?
23:09<sleser>it changing it after reboot
23:09<martingale>do you know how to change it to the thing you want via the command line?
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23:09<sleser>via comand no
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23:10<sleser>it has to stay on creative xfi
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23:11<martingale>if you can figure out how to do it via command line, you can add it to your .xession file
23:12<martingale>alternatively, there might be a config file somewhere to set the default playback device
23:12<martingale>do you know what audio system you are using?
23:13<sleser>yeh its creative xfi
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23:19<martingale>sleser: creative xfi is the audio device, right?
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23:19<sleser>yeh i got it fixed
23:19<martingale>i was asking what mixer you were using
23:19<martingale>oh great, how did you fix it?
23:19<sleser>i went in system setings
23:19<sleser>there it asked me that it forgot a driver if i should choose yes or no
23:19<sleser>cliked no went to diferent bar there i chose the one i want , aplyed exit
23:19<sleser>reboot so far it remember
23:20<sleser>ill monitor it a few more days
23:20<sleser>i had a problem before also it will remember for a few days
23:20<sleser>then change
23:20<sleser>randomly
23:24<sleser>i youse an alsamixer and also a povucontrol
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23:42<lovezrs>Hello everybody
23:42<lovezrs>all dead man?
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23:43<lovezrs>byebye
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23:47<stoiker>define change
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23:54<sleser>change in terms the kde will forget
23:54<sleser>and give me this problem again
23:54<sleser>sometimes in couple of days or a week or 2
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23:56<stoiker>hey, I try to login and I get the error message: Xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp; xsession may exit with an error
23:57<sleser>does tmp exist ?
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23:59<canaima>YORBYS ROBERTO GARMENDIA ESPINOZA
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