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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-12-07

---Logopened Sun Dec 07 00:00:30 2014
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00:06<stoiker>sleser, tmp exists
00:07<sleser>im not proffetional . but looks like here its solved . http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=35043
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00:13<sleser>i think you having a premition problem to tmp directory if directory is exists
00:14<sleser>hang around some one who is real good with debian . for sure going to help you
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00:18<stoiker>oh I'm out of space
00:19<stoiker>on my system partition
00:20<sleser>that will result problem too
00:20<sleser>does anyone knows if there is a xcms app in debian pakages i cant find in nonfree wheezy
00:20<sleser>xcms is a cctv remote app . app that i use to enter a dvr cctv from home whitch located diferent site over internet
00:22<sleser>app like so : http://secutroncctv.com/secutron/?document_srl=5312
00:22<sleser>id like to avoide wine . sins it isnt functioning the win app . completely want to avoide win apps and wine
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00:39<test6>Hello, I am not sure if I am in the right place. I need some help. I am so stuck on this issue.
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00:40<wompa>SOVS, is it related to Debian?
00:40<SOVS>yes
00:40<SOVS>exim4
00:40<SOVS>to be precise
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00:42<somiaj>!ask
00:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
00:43<SOVS>Ok. I am new to setting up email. I have a domain name through godaddy. I have a google apps for business account that handles all my email. I am trying to setup exim4 to send mail from a server. However all mail i send gets rejected as they think it is spam. I think I have correctly setup an spf record but im really stuck here
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01:12<ovanau>SOVS: What do the headers say about the mail being rejected?
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01:13<SOVS>ovanau i am new to setting up email i wish i could answer that
01:13<ovanau>also I think that this is a question for #exim4 maybe freenode? For now look at the headers of the rejected mail. If you don't know how to get the headers Google is your best friend.
01:14<SOVS>yeah i am looking at them i am also in freenode no one answering
01:15<SOVS>may i private message u ovanau
01:35<vrkalak> I do I data off a corrupt partition?
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01:37<SOVS>dd
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02:26<clarence>try to install httrack, changed to the directory, type configure, but system said command not found
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02:54<stoiker>clarence
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02:55<stoiker>were you typing configure after the httrack's binary name?
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03:17<clarence>what do u mean stoiker
03:18<clarence>root@debian:/home/clarence/httrack-3.48.19# configure
03:18<clarence>bash: configure: command not found
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04:01<valdyn>clarence: why are you not using the debian package?
04:01<valdyn>judd: versions httrack
04:01<judd>Package: httrack on i386 -- squeeze: 3.43.9-1; wheezy: 3.46.1-1; jessie: 3.48.20-1; sid: 3.48.20-1
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04:05<clarence>valdyn: how/where do I use/get debian package?
04:05<valdyn>clarence: "apt-get install httrack"
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04:06<clarence>just wanna *practice* how to install tarball on linux
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04:07<valdyn>clarence: as a default security measure the current directory is not in your $PATH, so you have to run "./configure", not "configure"
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04:09<clarence>I changed to the directory, do I stil have to run "./configure"?
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04:09<valdyn>clarence: read again
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04:12<clarence>I *must* run ./configure
04:14<valdyn>clarence: imagine: you download an unknown zip file or tar archive. That archive is malicious and contains the "ls" command which will do something evil. You unpack, you run "ls".
04:14<valdyn>clarence: what happens? why should the current directory not be in your $PATH
04:16<clarence>system blocks it?
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04:17<valdyn>clarence: its not an active block, since ./ is not in $PATH
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04:20<clarence>valdyn: thanks, btw, I want to buy some *physical books* to learn Linux, any recommendation?
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04:24<valdyn>books are usually outdated
04:24<valdyn>unless you buy one about a more general topic
04:25<clarence>books about command line?
04:25<clarence>I got one,but it has 500+ pages
04:26<valdyn>even then, they will tell you how you can do something, the how you will learn and be told that its the wrong way to do it in #debian
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04:26<valdyn>clarence: 500 pages is ok
04:26<valdyn>Linux in a Nutshell (In a Nutshell (O'Reilly))
04:27<valdyn>that used to be popular i guess ^^
04:29<clarence>learning linux in #debian way is?
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04:30<valdyn>clarence: I dont really know how to learn, and i dont even know what you want to learn
04:30<valdyn>clarence: the topic "linux" is huge
04:31<valdyn>clarence: and even more importantly, I dont know your background.
04:32<clarence>background: not a CS student but I tried Fedora, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and debian
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04:32<stoiker>clarence, i know there is an amazing course on linux (3 distros are focused on including debian) online. It will start on January, the Fifth sudo ncdu /var
04:33<stoiker>https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-linux-linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-2
04:34<valdyn>clarence: I think you indeed should do a course or read a book if you cannot read and understand the typical manpages easily
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04:34<valdyn>clarence: once you can read and understand the manpages easily books wont be useful
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04:34<valdyn>clarence: thats just my personal experience
04:34<clarence>still a linux begginer, the reason I use Linux is I don't want to spend money on Windows.
04:35<stoiker>clarence, the course link I provided is free and created by the Linux Foundation. It covers the basics and a ton more. I've been in it.
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04:36<valdyn>clarence: another great resource is youtube, its full of lectures on any topic on any level
04:37<stoiker>It should look attractive enough. Goodnight, #debian
04:37<stoiker>slash morning
04:37<stoiker>slash afternoon
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04:38<clarence>thank you valdyn
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04:52<emjayla>hi
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06:01<spidr_mnky>I seem to be unable to authenticate to my local cups web interface. I'm on Wheezy.
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06:01<spidr_mnky>Log says: cupsdAuthorize: pam_authenticate() returned 7 (Authentication failure)!
06:02<spidr_mnky>User is in lpadmin group.
06:02<bluewater>spidr_mnky: cups needs you to login as root
06:03<spidr_mnky>Since when?
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06:06<bluewater>since foever
06:06<bluewater>forever
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06:06<spidr_mnky>Because I keep seeing material like this: https://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting#Add_Printer
06:07<spidr_mnky>Suggesting that your user just needs to be in lpadmin.
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06:08<bluewater>try logging as root ,, it just works
06:08<bluewater>to cups that is
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06:09<spidr_mnky>Well, it also does not work.
06:09<Apollo>bluewater: ehm, thats kind of wrong...
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06:09<bluewater>never failed for me
06:09<spidr_mnky>There's also this line from /usr/share/doc/cups-client/README.Debian.gz: "the "lpadmin" group has been created and granted administrative rights to CUPS. You may need to add users to this group in order to add printers, modify settings, etc."
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06:10<spidr_mnky>So yeah. That's nice, but that's not how it's supposed to work.
06:10<Apollo>spidr_mnky: tried logging out and back in?
06:10<bluewater>CUPS can also be administered via its web interface (http://localhost:631). You will be asked for the root user login and password.
06:10<Apollo>restarted cups?
06:11<spidr_mnky>I have been in the group since well before last reboot.
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06:11<spidr_mnky>So effectively, yes.
06:12<spidr_mnky>bluewater: I am exclusively talking about the web interface.
06:12<bluewater>CUPS can also be administered via its web interface (http://localhost:631). You will be asked for the root user login and password.
06:13<spidr_mnky>Am I missing something subtle about that line?
06:13<spidr_mnky>I tried logging in as root. Same results.
06:14<Apollo>spidr_mnky: a suggestion I seem to find online is: change your password and try again
06:14<bluewater>spidr_mnky: type <root> then the password for root
06:15<Apollo>bluewater: link to that sentence
06:15<bluewater>without the <>
06:15<spidr_mnky>bluewater: Please stop telling me that. I tried it, and it did not work.
06:16<spidr_mnky>Apollo: I actually created a new user just to test whether the password was the problem.
06:16<spidr_mnky>So now I have cups-admin, a member of lpadmin.
06:16<bluewater>Apollo: https://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting#Add_Printer
06:16<spidr_mnky>He can't admin my CUPS either, though.
06:16<Apollo>still, try changing the password again I guess
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06:18<spidr_mnky>No change.
06:19<valdyn>spidr_mnky: are you really accessing locally?
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06:19<valdyn>spidr_mnky: or what is the ip you are trying to access cups on?
06:20<spidr_mnky>Yes. no ssh tunnels or anything crazy.
06:20<spidr_mnky>https://localhost:631
06:20<valdyn>spidr_mnky: im not talking about crazy, just 192.168.1.1 instead of localhost
06:20<valdyn>spidr_mnky: ok
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06:20<valdyn>spidr_mnky: read the log?
06:21<spidr_mnky>Log says: cupsdAuthorize: pam_authenticate() returned 7 (Authentication failure)!
06:21<spidr_mnky>I'm checking the error_log. Is there another source of interesting information I should check?
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06:22<valdyn>spidr_mnky: is the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf modified at all?
06:23<spidr_mnky>Negative. I actually purged all the configs to be sure.
06:23<valdyn>spidr_mnky: is your pam config modified at all?
06:23<spidr_mnky>Not to my memory, but that might be a good thing to double check.
06:24<valdyn>spidr_mnky: show us your /etc/pam.d/cups
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06:24<spidr_mnky>@include common-auth
06:24<spidr_mnky>@include common-account
06:24<spidr_mnky>@include common-session
06:24<valdyn>spidr_mnky: thats default
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06:26<Apollo>spidr_mnky: are you running debian or ubuntu?
06:26<spidr_mnky>Debian Wheezy.
06:26<Apollo>because ubuntu seems to have administration disabled in a peculiar way
06:26<valdyn>spidr_mnky: run "debsums libpam-runtime"
06:26<spidr_mnky>I think I happened across a bug report to that effect.
06:27<valdyn>spidr_mnky: or "debsums libpam-runtime | grep -v OK"
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06:27<spidr_mnky>No non-OK lines.
06:28<valdyn>spidr_mnky: can you log in as root at all?
06:28<spidr_mnky>Yes. Just double-checked that.
06:28<spidr_mnky>At least now I am not confused alone. :)
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06:29<spidr_mnky>To clarify: I checked with su, not with login per se.
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06:31<valdyn>spidr_mnky: show us your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
06:32<spidr_mnky>Let's see ... what are the cool kids using these days to pastebin-or-similar from CLI?
06:32<valdyn>!paste
06:32<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
06:33<spidr_mnky>pastebinit it is, then.
06:34<spidr_mnky>http://paste.debian.net/135265
06:37<spidr_mnky>II *think* administration was working at some point in recent memory. I couldn't swear to it, though, just because I rarely print from this system.
06:38<valdyn>spidr_mnky: it works by default
06:38<spidr_mnky>But there were printers configured, and passwords saved, before I purged the configs.
06:38<spidr_mnky>Well, that's the theory.
06:39<spidr_mnky>I would love to exercise any option to return to defaults. I have no configs to hold onto at this point.
06:39<valdyn>spidr_mnky: the cups interface works except for logging in , correct?
06:39<spidr_mnky>It appears functional. Menus present, etc.
06:40<valdyn>spidr_mnky: see if something happens in /var/log/auth.log when you log in
06:41<spidr_mnky>Dec 7 03:40:50 mawg cupsd: pam_unix(cups:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=cups ruser= rhost=localhost user=cups-admin
06:41<spidr_mnky>Hmm...
06:41<valdyn>spidr_mnky: what if you use root ?
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06:42<spidr_mnky>Dec 7 03:41:56 mawg cupsd: pam_unix(cups:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=cups ruser= rhost=localhost user=root
06:43<spidr_mnky>How badly do you want to believe I am messing up the password?
06:43<valdyn>spidr_mnky: I dont
06:43<valdyn>spidr_mnky: but now that you say it, maybe ;)
06:43<spidr_mnky>I work IT. I know if I were you, I would. But if you're a saint, that's cool. :)
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06:44<spidr_mnky>Suffice it to say, I am fairly positive I am not getting it wrong this consistently, while consistently getting it right in other contexts.
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06:45<valdyn>logs nothing when I log in with the correct password
06:46<valdyn>pam_unix(cups:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=cups ruser= rhost=192.168.1.1 user=root
06:46<valdyn>spidr_mnky: assume something is wrong with pam then
06:46<valdyn>spidr_mnky: reinstall those packages, dont purge, as we checked the config already
06:47<valdyn>spidr_mnky: "apt-get install --reinstall blah"
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06:48<spidr_mnky>libpam*, basically?
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06:48<valdyn>spidr_mnky: yea, of course just some subset needed, but i dont know pam well
06:48<spidr_mnky>Fair enough.
06:49<valdyn>spidr_mnky: + you can use debsums to check packages anyway
06:50<spidr_mnky>Reinstalled. No change in behavior.
06:50<valdyn>"BrowseLocalProtocols dnssd" in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf is default, i dont know what your "CUPS" in that line means
06:50<valdyn>but thats probably totally unrelated
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06:54<spidr_mnky>Took it out for giggles. No effect.
06:54<spidr_mnky>(Put it back.)
06:54<valdyn>spidr_mnky: ok, this is over my head, the next thing is debugging pam and i cant do that, and seeing about possible interactions with selinx / apparmor, which i know nothing about either.
06:55<spidr_mnky>Cool. Thanks for the insights.
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06:57<spidr_mnky>oooohhh...
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06:57<spidr_mnky>I just changed the test user's password to a stupid-short one. And it started working...
06:58<spidr_mnky>I think CUPS' password-passing mojo isn't quite up to par. Maybe a character limit. At least I've seen it work, though.
07:01<spidr_mnky>32 characters.
07:01<spidr_mnky>I was 1 over. Frickin' eh. Thanks, all!
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07:06<valdyn>ok, I didnt think of that, why would use use 33 character passwords?
07:06<valdyn>plan text sentences?
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07:11<DesertRock>Passphrase is a better term, and its more secure
07:17<valdyn>uh, think again, its easier to remember, its not more secure
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07:20<indistylo>Cairo dock with openGLis not working after I recently used "manager upgrade" , it says openGL stopped working , Kindly suggest the measures to restore it
07:25<towo`>whatever "manager upgrade" is
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07:39<spidr_mnky>valdyn: You may want to think several more times. ;)
07:39<spidr_mnky>I use diceware.
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07:39<spidr_mnky>And I'll scoot over to #debian-offtopic if you want to go off on that tangent. ;)
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07:40<spidr_mnky>But I updated the wiki, so hopefully no one will have to spend quite so much time on it again.
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08:58<oem>preciso de ajuda
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10:32<mitrom>I greet you great sirs
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10:53<sney>hi
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11:01<mitrom>Hay sney
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11:33<beatinstick>can I upgrade mx14.2 to mx14.3 using command line
11:34<mitrom>Try apt-getting the version you want
11:34<beatinstick>ok
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11:49<ompaul>,v mx14
11:50<judd>No package named 'mx14' was found in i386.
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11:50<gbit>Hello, I'm trying to install mod_dnsbl & mod_geoip on proftpd but with no success. When I run 'proftpd -l' it does not show those modules. What I'm missing?
11:51<ompaul>lsmod | grep mod
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11:52<ompaul>gbit: ^^^ that is for you
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11:53<gbit>ompaul: I have no module loaded
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11:53<ompaul>modprobe modulename
11:54<gbit>sure thank you
11:54<shiftplusone>what do kernel modules have to do with proftpd modules?
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11:54<mvd>modprobe is for kernel modules, not proftpd modules
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11:55<gbit>the mod_geoip.so file is on the directory
11:55<gbit>I restarted proftpd with no luck
11:56<gbit>Should I recompile it?
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13:19<Meissa>Hey, I was just trying to get a fresh install of debian jessie working, and it seems for hand on "systemd-fsck[245]" whenever it boots, but there's no HDD activity showing on my drive so it can't be fscking
13:20<Meissa>I've tried both using the jessie installed and upgrading from wheezy, and I get the problem either way. Wheezy works fine, though
13:20<Meissa>I've tried googling the issue, and I can't seem to find anything. The system also won't boot into recovery mode and hangs similarly when I try.
13:21<Meissa>Anyone know anything about this? Are there any problems with jessie right now or am I just being stupid in some way? I installed with all the default options, except I chose guided partitioning for encrypted lvm
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13:24<sney>Meissa: join us in #debian-next for testing support
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13:37<Celelibi>When have the suggested packages been introduced?
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13:39<centrx>Celelibi, What do you mean?
13:39<Celelibi>The field "Suggested" in the package description.
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13:39<Celelibi>IIRC, before the suggested packages were introduced, the recommended were not installed by default.
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13:40<abrotman>you can still opt to not have Recommended installed
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13:42<ompaul>suggested do not get automatically install
13:42<ompaul>ed
13:43<Celelibi>Ok, but my question is: when has this been introduced?
13:43<sney>disabling recommends often results in half-working software, but it is an option
13:43<ompaul>years ago
13:43<sney>I would guess etch? maybe earlier
13:43<ompaul>sney: not in my findings (years of sid ;-))
13:43<sney>ompaul: well, judiciously used, it can be fine. but then there are the people who disable it in apt.conf
13:44<ompaul>sney: the way to do sid ime but this is me personally is apt not aptitude for that reason I don't want it to try and solve problems - transitions are hard enough :)
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13:47<rryoumaa>when apt-listbugs stops a download, does it really know what it is doing? it seems like it often stops the fix from being downloaded in wheezy.
13:47<Celelibi>sney: I disabled it in my apt.conf.
13:47<Celelibi>And it's fine.
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13:48<rryoumaa>which suite is apt-listbugs intended for?
13:48<sney>your funeral
13:48<sney>rryoumaa: testing and up, but doesn't hurt to just always have it
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13:49<rryoumaa>ah no wonder, thanks
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13:49<ompaul>do the download not the install apt-get -d dist-upgrade
13:49<ompaul>if running sid or testing always dist-upgrade anything else is a waste of your time and mine
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13:50<rryoumaa>ompaul: talking to whom?
13:51<ompaul>rryoumaa: if you want to you can read it
13:51<rryoumaa>ompaul: i was wondering whether you were talking to me or Celelibi
13:51<ompaul>rryoumaa: if it applies to you feel free to use it - when I don't address stuff directly, it is usually apropos the topic.
13:52<ompaul>being discussed
13:52<ompaul>rryoumaa: yes it does know what it is doing :)
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13:52<ompaul>rryoumaa: read the error and decide if it applies to you.
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13:54<rryoumaa>ompaul: ok, but i think it can be confusing to a wheezy user, which could cause the user to think, as i did, that there is some problem with the installation scripts, or the user's own interpretation of the meaning of the version numbers (which actually are not identical to the one being downloaded sometimes but have suffixes). this could cause the user to not upgrade for a few days, hoping the scripts will get fix
13:54<rryoumaa>ed. i don't suppose you agree, but seems like a possible area of improvement.
13:55<rryoumaa>the package description does not say that its aborting of installation is not always appropriate for stable
13:56<ompaul>rryoumaa: perhaps, if I do, and you do, then the course of action you would take is apt-get remove apt-listbugs on stable
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13:56<bcnjr>Why isn't the clisp package available anymore?
13:57<rryoumaa>obviously now that i know that it is not intended for wheezy i can just install manually. but before i knew that there was no obvious guidance in the error message or package description.
13:58<ompaul>,v clisp
13:58<rryoumaa>also i didn't know if "do the download not the install" was meant as an answer to my apt-listbug question or somebody else's question
13:58<judd>Package: clisp on i386 -- squeeze: 1:2.48-3; wheezy: 1:2.49-8.1; sid: 1:2.49-10
13:59<ompaul>bcnjr: so it didn't make the cut for some buggy reason
13:59<ompaul>this happens
13:59<ompaul>bcnjr: it is there on wheezy
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14:00<bcnjr>I'm using jessie.
14:01<bcnjr>Pardon me if this is a stupid question, but why not carry the last release of a package into the next release of debian?
14:01<ompaul>maybe with the new compiler it wasn't happy
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14:02<ompaul>it might have deps you don't know about
14:02<ompaul>!dontbreakdebian
14:02<dpkg>it has been said that dont break debian is https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
14:02<ompaul>bcnjr: caution ^^
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14:03<bcnjr>ompaul: Sorry. First time here.
14:04<ompaul>bcnjr: not a problem - just read that page because you seem like a candidate to do the thing and wonder why it went away :-)
14:04<ompaul>the system that is
14:04<ompaul>so now you know welcome to the club
14:05<bcnjr>Umm... I broke pretty much every rule on that list, I think...
14:06<ompaul>bcnjr: if you have not a lot of commitment then I'd say before it all goes to pot - consider backup of your home directories and clean install just consider not telling you that you have to
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14:07<bcnjr>Don't worry. I sort of know what I'm doing.
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14:10<bcnjr>I've been interested in joining the debian project for a while, but I don't know where to start.
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14:15<abrotman>bcnjr: debian.org/intro/help
14:17<bcnjr>abrotman: Thanks
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16:03<guler>hi
16:04<mitrom>Hey guler
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16:04<guler>how are you :D
16:04<mitrom>That's a lot of 7s in your Ip there
16:04<mitrom>5 in fact
16:04<mitrom>I'm fine, just counting numbers =P
16:04<guler>ı am new linux player :D
16:04<guler>ı use to putty
16:04<mitrom>Is that a 1 or an l ?
16:05<mitrom>Or like, a bullet point?
16:05<guler>and ı want to vsftpd server but ı not create :(
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17:57<kodes>hello
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18:07<welli>hola
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18:20<matanya>If i want to request a piece of software would be packaged by debian, i need to file rfp ? wnpp ?
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18:21<abrotman>matanya: RFP, yes
18:21<matanya>thanks abrotman
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18:25<Acos>Hola ?
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18:38<topcyde>I am trying to install libgtk2.0-dev and it's saying it's a broken package. Tried to autofix and it says I have held packages. Not sure how to troubleshoot this further?
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18:41<abrotman>topcyde: apt-get -f install .. please use paste.debian.net
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18:54<topcyde>abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/135393/
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18:59<topcyde>abrotman: I just realized I was supposed to include the package name in that I'll post a new one in a second.
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19:00<topcyde>http://paste.debian.net/135394/
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19:05<planet>hello all- i'm trying to run adb (android debug bridge) from a local directory on my debian wheezy install, but when I try "./adb" in the directory the binary sits in i get an error: "bash: ./adb: No such file or directory"
19:06<planet>it
19:06<bcnjr>chmod +x ./adb
19:06<planet>it's definitely set to exectuable
19:06<bcnjr>ld error?
19:09<planet>ah it's coming up file wrong format
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19:10<bcnjr>I think there's a working version of adb in the de ian repository.
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19:10<planet>yeah i read there was one in testing, i
19:11<planet>i'll have to add the repo
19:11<bcnjr>android-tools-adb
19:11<planet>thanks for your help bcnjr, i was pulling my hair out
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19:12<bcnjr>Try to find it in wheezy before you add the testing repository.
19:13<bcnjr>I forgot if it was there or not, and I can't check atm.
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19:13<planet>yeah it's not there :(
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19:23<abrotman>topcyde: you weren't supposed to include the packagename
19:23<abrotman>topcyde: paste your sources.list
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19:32<nono>idenify
19:32<nono>hey guys i need some help
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19:33<abrotman>!ask
19:33<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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19:33<nono>http://askubuntu.com/questions/530088/ufw-for-openvpn i used this guide to make a firewall with my vpn service now the vpn worked fine but i guess my iptable isnt right
19:33<nono>some help pls
19:34<abrotman>how do you know it isn't right?
19:34<nono>my tap0 doesnt have a default gateway
19:34<nono>i think thats the issue
19:34<nono>i dont know
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19:36<abrotman>nono: that's normal
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19:36<abrotman>nono: do not msg me, keep it here
19:37<nono>Kernel IP routing table
19:37<nono>Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
19:37<nono>0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 tap0
19:37<nono>10.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 254.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 tap0
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19:37<nono>tsorry about the spam ill use pastebin next time
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19:38<topcyde>abrotman: thanks I figured it out by using apt-get -f [package] and tracing it back 4 levels down a couple splits to 2 packages that were installed from wheezy-backports
19:39<nono>i just uploaded the file in pate.debian.net
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19:39<nono>http://paste.debian.net/135401
19:39<nono>what could be the issue
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19:47<nono>no help for nono :(
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19:50<abrotman>nono: what doens't work?
19:51<nono>vpn connects but im thinking either the gateway and ip are not set or the iptable is not set properly
19:51<abrotman>nono: you can try to maninuplate this with the 'route' command
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19:53<nono>heres the whole story http://askubuntu.com/questions/530088/ufw-for-openvpn this is the script i used
19:53<nono>what would i be missing in order to be running smoothly
19:53<abrotman>why would you post your question to askubuntu?
19:54<nono>b/c i'm using debian
19:54<nono>the script is just in the ubutnu forum
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20:12<vger_0>hello. my laptop can't see or connect to any wi-fi. i'm using wheezy, gnome.
20:13<vger_0>Wicd network manager says there are no wireless networks, but there should be at least 4.
20:13<abrotman>vger_0: which wireless device? do you have the firmware installed?
20:14<vger_0>i installed everything with the package manager that had intel wireless in it.
20:17<abrotman>vger_0: lspci -nn, what's your wireless device
20:17<abrotman>vger_0: also, what is 'uname -a'
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20:20<vger_0>abrotman: i don't see anything that says wireless
20:21<abrotman>vger_0: pastebin all of it
20:21<abrotman>paste.debian.net
20:24<vger_0>i can't do that right now. i'm on a desktop upstairs that's on wi-fi. the laptop has to be plugged in to the router downstairs.
20:25<vger_0>i'll have to work on this latter when I can get irc on the laptop and talk while i'm plugged in.
20:25<vger_0>thank you for trying.
20:25<vger_0>i'll be back. :)
20:25<abrotman>okay
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20:28<bcnjr>That dpkg bot that everyone uses just threatened to murder me and play snooker with my eyes.
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20:30<abrotman>bcnjr: then don't play with the bot
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20:33<nono>abrotman did you ever figure out what it could be
20:33<nono>how do i set my default gateway 8.8.8.8
20:33<abrotman>you don't want that as your gateway
20:34<nono>oook
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20:34<abrotman>route add default gw ip.goes.here
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22:06<topcyde>is there a gui package for accessing usr/share/doc? I'm hoping after an hour of looking that I just didn't enter the right search parameters.
22:07<centrx>topcyde, You mean something that knows how docs are laid out and presents them well? (Otherwise you can use a file manager)
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22:08<topcyde>yes, because i'd like a little more information than just the file manager and taking a wag at what it's for.
22:11<dondelelcaro>topcyde: not for /usr/share/doc per-se, but most documentation should be registered using doc-base
22:12<dondelelcaro>topcyde: so you can use dhelp, dwww, or something similar to browse it all
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22:22<topcyde>centrx, dondelelcarlo: very nice, not perfectly what I was hoping. but it works. Thank you. A couple years using Debian and still learning. This system is huge.
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22:52<pabs>how can I get a list of source package names and versions for all of the binary packages installed on my system?
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23:03<martingale>pabs: `dpkg -l` will tell you somewhat what you want
23:04<pabs>that is only binary packages
23:04<martingale>yes that's why i said somewhat
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23:09<martingale>pabs: unless you downloaded the source manually i don't think you will have anything but binaries
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23:14<pabs>I know
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23:15*pabs resorts to a horrible command-line: for p in $(aptitude search ~i -F %p=%v --disable-columns); do apt-cache show "$p" | egrep '^(Package|Source|Version):' > $p.binary-package ; done ; ...do something with these files
23:15<martingale>i just tried downloading the source of a package with apt-get source, and neither apt not dpkg wrote anything to their log files
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