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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-12-08

---Logopened Mon Dec 08 00:00:04 2014
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00:00<Aguuu>Holi
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00:02<Adriii>jajaja
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00:02<Aguuu>JAJAJJA ALTOQE
00:02<Aguuu>ROKE
00:03<Adriii>Altoqqe roqqe, yo las miro desde arriba
00:03<Adriii>(?
00:03<Aguuu>AHMABALE
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00:05<retrospectacus>!es-social
00:05<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
00:05<Adriii>me queres?
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00:06<Aguuu>GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
00:06<Aguuu>PA VO
00:06<Aguuu>TURRI
00:06<Aguuu>AHQ
00:06<Adriii>este ''grrrrrr'' es un desmadre
00:06<Adriii>kcyo
00:06<Aguuu>LOODOIO
00:06<Aguuu>LOODIO
00:06<Adriii>arre
00:06<Adriii>que hacias?
00:06<Adriii>como andabas?
00:07-!-mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ
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00:08<ntk>that’s one way to do it
00:08<topcyde>sorry didn't realize I was feeding a troll.
00:10<topcyde>Just trying to be cordial, I guess I just stepped on a TrollMine
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00:37<siducer60>somebody known how to fix the resolution. I am on Sid + Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller. My max resolution is 1024x768 which is terrible
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00:54<Snader_LB>hi all
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00:59<Snader_LB>where can i find / how can i download older versions of packages? for example, on a wheezy system, "for i in $(seq 1 3); do apt-get download bash=4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u"$i"; done" only downloads bash_4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3_i386.deb
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01:02<jm_>!sdn
01:02<dpkg>http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412
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01:05<Snader_LB>jm_: thank you
01:05<jm_>no problem
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01:06<Snader_LB>where can i read about the package versioning scheme?
01:06<jm_>you mean the version field in the packages?
01:06<Snader_LB>i found <https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html>, but it doesn't really help
01:06<Snader_LB>yes
01:07<Snader_LB>what it all means
01:07<jm_>how does that not explain it?
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01:10<Snader_LB>i specifically mean the parts within `debian_revision'
01:10<Snader_LB>an another example, openssl_1.0.1e-2+deb7u13
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01:11<Snader_LB>-1 and -2; deb7; 1 - 13
01:13<jm_>deb7 are stable updates (mostly security)
01:14<Snader_LB>why did 1.0.1e-1 become 1.0.1e-2?
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01:14<Snader_LB>why / when / for what readon
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01:14<Snader_LB>reason *
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01:16<jm_>it's in the changelog.Debian.gz file
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01:28<Snader_LB>ah; got it. i thought 1 -> 2 was special, but actually that's the normal numbering, and then on top of that comes the deb7u stuff
01:28<Snader_LB>(hence i asked why 1 became 2)
01:28<Snader_LB>thanks
01:29<Snader_LB>(i.e., i was mislead for a minute)
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01:57<sleser>jm are you around ?
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01:58<sleser>any profetional around ?
01:58<Snader_LB>sleser: do you have a general Debian question? if so, just ask the channel
01:59<sleser>its not a debian quastion its in general linux quastion
01:59<sleser>i need an app for remote view a dvr located diferent site . over internet
01:59<sleser>not zoneminder
01:59<Snader_LB>(FWIW, there's no need to ask for specific people with general questions)
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02:00<sleser>zoneminder dosnt work for this dvr
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02:00<Snader_LB>if it's not a Debian specific question, a generic GNU/Linux channel might be more appropriate; this channel if about Debia
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02:00<Snader_LB>n
02:00<sleser>where is one c hanel like that ?
02:01<Snader_LB>there's #linux here on OFTC and ##linux on freenode, for example
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02:01<sleser>thanks man thats alot of help
02:01<Snader_LB>np.
02:02<jm_>zoneminder is a v4l app so it suggests the issue might be with drivers
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05:41<ZeroBeholder>Good morning. I am at a point where I know I am missing something. I think I need to set the hostname (got that, probably not part of the gap I feel) and possibly something with resolvconf... I don't know how to phrase the question.
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05:42<ZeroBeholder>I just have a really firm feeling I am missing something.
05:44<ixi>!ask
05:44<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
05:44<ixi>ZeroBeholder use template
05:44<ixi>also
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05:45<ixi>I see that tomcat8 suggests libtcnative-1 (>= 1.1.30) but only version 1.1.24-1 available on wheezy ...
05:45<ixi>any way to get libtcnative-1 >= 1.1.30 on wheezy atm ?
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06:21<ZeroBeholder>When you are setting up a new host-- what are the steps beyond updating /etc/hostname that you take?
06:21<ZeroBeholder>That is the best way I can put it without knowing quite what it is I want to ask.
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06:24<subbe>ZeroBeholder: depends on the application but debian should be fine. If it's a VM you may need to update the macadress aswell but thats should've been done by the hypervisor.
06:24<jm_>ZeroBeholder: don't forget /etc/hosts
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06:27<ZeroBeholder>'/etc/hosts lets the machine know where itself is when it refers to itself-- right? (I normally use it to blacklist hostnames-- mostly ad server hosts on my dev machine).
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06:29<jm_>if by that you meant it's used for name resolution of local IP/hostname then yes
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06:54<yashwant>Hi, I am getting different user notification screen, in one user home there is shutdown and hibernate options are there but in another only logout?
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07:14<mixxx>FUCK SYSTEMD
07:14<mixxx>Hans Reiser did nothing wrong
07:14<mixxx>he was right to choke nina to death
07:15<petn-randall>!ops mixxx
07:15<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: petn-randall complains about: mixxx
07:15<mixxx>she fucked his best friend
07:15<mixxx>divorced him
07:15<mixxx>took the house
07:15<mixxx>took the money
07:15<mixxx>took the kids
07:15<mixxx>Hans Reiser TOOK HER LIFE
07:15<mixxx>good on him
07:15<petn-randall>!enter
07:15<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
07:15<jm_>please stop - do you have something that we can help you with?
07:15<mixxx>this is what the OLD TESTAMNT commands him to do
07:16<mixxx>jm_, I would like systemd to get the ReiserFS treatment
07:16<mixxx>jm_, ie: deleted
07:16<mixxx>(silently)
07:16<jm_>mixxx: ok, but please continue in your quest in another channel
07:16<mixxx>no recovery
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07:16<petn-randall>weasel: Thanks.
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07:17<ixi>how is reiserfs deleted silently
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07:18<ixi>it's still in kernel (modprobe reiserfs works) and reiserfstools is still available package
07:18<ixi>:/
07:18<petn-randall>ixi: Ignore the ramblings of a madman.
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07:42<ZeroBeholder>Thanks. I still think I am missing something in the 'naming' of my server that is in addition to /etc/hostname & /etc/hosts-- maybe something to do with resolvconf... but AFK for several hours. Catch you cats later.
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08:10<reset>LINUS TORWALD RAPE LITTLE CHILDRENS
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08:10<helmut>!ops fkSystemd trolls in #debian-security
08:10<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: helmut complains about: fkSystemd trolls in #debian-security
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08:15<mariok>Hello!
08:15<mariok>I want to get a list of installed packages without dependencies. What do you recommend?
08:16<abrotman>dpkg: tell mariok about installed
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08:23<mariok>^^^ I know that partly but this is not exactly what I'm looking for
08:23<mariok>I want to get the list WITHOUT dependencies.
08:23<somiaj>mariok: you mean packages that nothing depends on?
08:23<somiaj>mariok: something like deborphan, though it usually only gives libaries, but can be configured to give more
08:23<mariok>after a debian netinstall I have:
08:23<mariok>dpkg -l | wc -l
08:23<dpkg>No packages found matching | wc -l
08:23<mariok>301
08:24<mariok>this count (301) includes dependencies as well.
08:29<abrotman>oh
08:29<abrotman>so, use the aptitude searches
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08:30<petn-randall>mariok: You can list any package that was manually installed with "aptitude search '!~M ~i'".
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08:31*petn-randall thinks this might be an XY problem in the works.
08:32<mariok>petn-randall: thanks for the tip. This gives me 60 libxxx Packages as well
08:33<abrotman>which is probably correct
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08:37<mariok>I checked and found some library "manually installed" depend on other packages
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09:15<petn-randall>mariok: Out of curiosity, what are you trying to do?
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09:20<yossarianuk>hi - security wise is it a bad idea to give the www-data user a shell ?
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09:21<abrotman>yossarianuk: yes
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09:22<jegor>201945993
09:22<abrotman>PIN:
09:23<abrotman>jegor: was that your SSN?
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09:35<yossarianuk>abrotman: that is what I thought...
09:36<yossarianuk>thanks
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10:46<mariok>petn-randall: I want to setup a small Debian VM (just debian Netinstall). Then Clone the VM n times (like 10-20 times) and I want a deployment tool (like puppet) to do the rest to setup the server
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10:47<mariok>So I want the deployment tool to supply the debconf-Question answers (before the packet installation), then install the packet (with using the pre-supplied answers), then patch the config files, setup autostart
10:48<mariok>I hop puppet is the tool to use for that.
10:48<mariok>I think puppet is a great tool and I found the debian project is using it (https://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=handel)
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10:49<awal>Any magic single commend for remove gnome and all it's dependencies and recommends?
10:49<mariok>s/deployment tool/configuration management tool/g
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10:52<awal>Is this, as suggested in debian wiki, what I need "aptitude purge `dpkg --get-selections | grep gnome | cut -f 1`"?
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10:57<awal>in human words what does exactly that command?
10:58<mariok>awal: dpkg --get-selection <-- lists every packet that is installed on the system. the "grep gnome" filters sout the lines which contain "gnome" in the packet name
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10:59<mariok>awal: cut -f 1 prints only the first column. (The second column is the word "install")
10:59<mariok>and this list of installed packets which contain the word "gnome" is feeded to "aptitude purge", which purges all these packets.
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11:01<awal>mariok, ok. I understand now. Thanks a lot:)
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11:02<petn-randall>mariok: I see. It's probably easier to just do a minimal installation and add SSH server. That'll bring you all the basics to control it via puppet.
11:03<mariok>petn-randall: what do you mean?
11:04<mariok>okay. I want also do use debootstrap and grml-debootstrap to install servers and those servers installed in the debootstrap-environment should have exact the same packets as the other ones (installed via netinst iso)
11:04<mariok>s/do use/use/g
11:05<mariok>what I need is to figure out which packages are installed (without dependencies) and the debconf-answers (which were asked by the installed) with the answer given by the admin.
11:06<mariok>s/installed/installer/g
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11:20<mariok>apt-mark showmanual
11:21<mariok>^^^ what do you think about this ?
11:23<mariok>dpkg -l (301 lines) - header (5 lines) = 296 lines
11:23<dpkg>ii (301 lines) - header (5 lines) = 296 lines 3.5-2.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
11:23<mariok>apt-mark showauto (88 lines) + apt-mark showmanual (208 lines) = 296 lines
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11:24<mariok>I think that looks okay. What do you think about this?
11:26<babilen>mariok: You might prefer saltstack (or ansible) over puppet these days
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12:48<shiroe>I need to access to "/sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch" but I can't find it. What's the problem. I have Debian 7.0
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12:54<bartm>shiroe, maybe you need linux-firmware-nonfree? I found that via google with keyword vgaswitcheroo
12:54<bartm>shiroe, I found that here: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=106245
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12:59<shiroe>bartm I've already installed it
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13:01<bartm>shiroe, so that's not a solution?
13:02<shiroe>no vgaswitcheroo doesn't exist
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13:50<helmut>is there a tool that can tell me which packages installed on a stable system vanish in the next release? (preferrably without requiring root) of course I can change sources.list, apt-get update and then aptitude search. is there any easier way?
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13:58<jonkri>How can I download and verify a Debian image (kFreeBSD if possible) using a trusted Debian system that I have installed? If "6294BE9B" is the key necessary, I don't have it ("sudo apt-key list | grep 6294BE9B" has no output).
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14:02<trico>!debsums
14:02<dpkg>rumour has it, debsums is a utility that will check a package's files against their checksums. The "-a" argument will instruct it to also check configuration files: "aptitude install debsums; debsums -a -s". Most packages come with md5sums included in the package; if apt's package cache is clean, then generate missing sums with "aptitude reinstall `debsums -l`". Ask me about <md5sums>.
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14:07<ratcheer>Rumor has it - LOL
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14:08<blast007>jonkri: https://www.debian.org/CD/verify
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14:11<jonkri>trico: That's nice, but I'm not interested in checking the checksums of packages - rather, I want to check the checksum of the installation media.
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14:13<jonkri>blast007: I have read that, but it's not clear to me how/whether I can verify for example these files (<http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.7.0/kfreebsd-amd64/iso-cd/>) against whatever my current Debian system uses to verify its packages.
14:17<blast007>jonkri: are you trying to verify that the download wasn't corrupted, or that the images/checksums were not tampered with on the server?
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14:18<jonkri>blast007: The second. I would like to utilize keys that I hope are located on my system.
14:18<jonkri>Trusting basically only this particular Debian system.
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14:20<blast007>don't have any experience with that myself. sorry.
14:20<jonkri>blast007: OK, thanks anyway. :)
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14:33<avtobiff>i have created a shared library which links to a library in ../../lib. added -L../../lib and -lwhatever to gcc. when checking the resulting .so with ldd it tries to find in ../bla/bla.so, which it can't of course because it should be ../../bla/bla.so. i havo tried setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH=../../bla to no use. wth is going on?
14:33<avtobiff>../../bla/whatever.so is what it should be
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14:39<theocrite>avtobiff: for what it worth, I don't think you should use relative paths in LD_LIBRARY_PATH. But that's probably not the reason of your issue.
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14:40<avtobiff>theocrite, no, it still states the same thing
14:40<avtobiff>../lib/libwhatever.so
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14:53<avtobiff>hi pi
14:54<pi>now I test xchat on my Raspberry Pi, I'm sorry for my bad english
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15:25<tricky>http://pastebin.com/VejFc1TM since -kbsd isnt super right now
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15:43<qxt>Going to buy a new wifi network card. Thinking about Intel's ac 7262. Only use main repos but can see what looks like a driver iwlwifi.ko in Jessie. Will this card work using only the main repos or not? Have a few months to put this computer together in time for Jessie when it comes out.
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15:50<Brigo>qxt, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi
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15:53<somiaj>qxt: you will need non-free firmware with almost any wifi card. You can just copy the firmware from intel directlly if you don't want to add non-free to your repo list and use the debian package.
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16:01<qxt>Bringo was reading that but when I found /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwlwifi.ko and then did a modinfo iwlwifi and read "GPL" wireless intel driver for Linux I was not sure.
16:01<qxt>I did not install it there
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16:03<qxt>somiaj non-free is is a deal braker for me. atm I am using a TP-Link TL-WDN4800 that does 450 Mbit/s duel band that works right out of the box.
16:03<qxt>and works with stable =)
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16:05<qxt>I might be wrong but is that a driver there ? /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwlwifi.ko
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16:06<towo`>no, its a kernel module
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16:06<somiaj>qxt: that free driver requires non-free firmware. But I don't take that as a bad thing. the FCC and other things require the manfucature have some control over the chip. Would you rather firmware be a seperate file or flashed onto the chip?
16:06<towo`>and iwlwifi does not work without non-free, since the module needs firmware-iwlwifi
16:06<qxt>towo` =(
16:07<somiaj>personally I do not like having the flash my chips eachtime the manufacture releases new firmware and would rather they just give me a file I can link against.
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16:08<somiaj>and as I said you can get the firmware directally from intel the manufacture and it will work out of the box and you don't have to add non-free repos, you just have to copy the firmware file over from intel.
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16:08<qxt>somiaj is it a blob or can I read it?
16:09<somiaj>a blob ofcourse
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16:09<somiaj>qxt: there are some wifi cards that don't require you to use non-free firmware blob. The difference is that firmware blob is still there, it is just flashed onto the chip and not a seperate file. So I don't see the difference.
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16:11<qxt>somiaj unfortunately that is that sad truth. I was ok with that until I read about programs like IRATEMONK.
16:12<qxt>but not much I can do about it.
16:12<somiaj>qxt: I think Aethos has wifi cards that don't require additional non-free firmware, you just get the non-free firmware that comes with the card in the first place. (:
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16:14<qxt>Best card I have used with Debian that is really fast is the PCIe TL-WDN4800. Back in the day I was a ALFA nut with madwifi.
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16:15<somiaj>I do like how the non-free firmware has been removed from the main kernel tree, but sometimes I think there is an overreaction on what it means to install non-free firmware (it lived in the kernel tree for years and only a few diehards seemed to care until it was fulled out)
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16:15<somiaj>qxt: back in the day, so it could have been before the firmware was pulled out of the kenrel and it was still there. (:
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16:17<somiaj>I foreget if it was squeeze or lenny (I'm thinking squeeze) that was the first release where the firmware was not hiding in the kenrel tree
16:18<qxt>somiaj was back in 2009-ish with the AWUS036H or so. Liked the injection etc. Started using Debian the day Squeeze removed all blobs out of the kernel. That was awesome.
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16:19<qxt>now I am an old fart and need to get stuff down on my own wifi =)
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16:19<somiaj>qxt: my personall suggestion is take the nonfree firmware blobs as a per case basis. If you trust intel and like their wifi cards, use them, then copy the firmware directally from intel to /lib/firmware and it will work with the drivers in jessie.
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16:20<somiaj>and as I said realize that lots of times you are getting non-free firmware blobs with hardware, it is just flashed onto the hardware and not a seperate file.
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16:21<qxt>somiaj in the past Intel has been really good with mesa etc. A bit surprised they wont share this code. They are still going to sell their chips.
16:21<somiaj>qxt: there are legal reasons why intel needs some non-free firmware on the wifi chips.
16:22<somiaj>though I'm sure there is also profit, coprtate reasons as well.
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16:23<qxt>somiaj my first reaction is "thats good" but in light of what we now know about gov spying and considering what that part does it is a bit concerning.
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16:24<qxt>I guess it does not really matter anymore though. Privacy is a myth.
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16:26<somiaj>qxt: yea, well privacy is all a trust issue. Do you trust debian and the keys they provide? Do you trust intel and their firmware? I guess the safest way is a cabin in the woods with no communication (:
16:26<somiaj>though now we are getting off topic.
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16:52<yang>Hi ! Which is the Debian website translations IRC channel ?
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16:53<qxt>somiaj for what it is worth there is a good summary on wifi drivers here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_wireless_drivers
16:54<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to transfer a playlist from Amarok on one machine to Amarok on another?
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16:56<centrx>yang, Try #debian-www
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16:57<trico>save playlist, ?, play playlist
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17:37<Pixionus>anyone know how to get otr working with xchat client?
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17:37<Pixionus>I've compiled from source and gone all the way through make install, but now I just can't figure out how to actually use it.
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17:38<Pixionus>couldn't find any docs on the subject but if you know of any that would be all the solution I need.
17:41<FOSSie_bear>hi... i've come across the reproducible builds website of the debian project and wondered how to help with that... There was something about jenkins builds comparison ... what can I do to contribute with that (something like removing makros from the code?)?
17:43<roniz__>Hello
17:43<roniz__>Is there a FOSS e reader?
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19:21<drafz>Hi people
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19:21<drafz>is debian like lesbian ? if so , i still have to witness it
19:22<drafz>poor of me
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19:23<drafz>that said , i have questions
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19:24<drafz>is anyone listen music with a small set of speaker ?
19:24<drafz>like me ?
19:25<drafz>okay , serious buissness ? why the fuck wpa_supplicant is flooding my syslog ?
19:25<drafz>fuck it , i'm so hungry about it
19:25<drafz>just want to to pipe it to /dev/null
19:26<drafz>so i read THE script related to it
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19:26<drafz>i found nothing in rc.d or wpa_supplicant folder to enlight me
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19:28<drafz>the ecec is , from ps -aux|grep wpa :
19:28<drafz>exec*
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19:29<drafz>/sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant*
19:29<drafz>why "-s" ?
19:29<drafz>what the fuck is that
19:29<drafz>okay let follow the path
19:29<drafz>was a bout dbus
19:29<somiaj>man wpa_supplicatn should tell you what the flags mean, but how are you configuring your network. I don't have wpa_supplicant in my sylog here
19:30<somiaj>or maybe paste a common error/log that is getting put there as that can sometimes help determine the cause
19:30<drafz>i knoiw what that mean , i just WANT TO CHANGE THE EXEC PARAM IN ME LESBIAN
19:31<drafz>why flooding by default in syslog ?
19:31<drafz>make the log file unreadeable
19:31<drafz>WTF
19:32<drafz>everey fucking 180 second, my wireless key renew , and it's a mess
19:32<somiaj>I don't see it flooding my log, it tells me when it assoicates or reassoicates with the AP. Also watch your language and caps, we hear your problem you don't have to be so vocal about it.
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19:33<drafz>right
19:33<drafz>so , my problem is wpa_supplicant stdout
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19:34<drafz>it's flooding my syslog
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19:34<somiaj>your options are 1) use a different method to configure your network as opposed to the ifup/down scripts provided by debian (or network-manager, what ever is running wpa_supplicant) to control where it outputs values or change runtime flags.
19:35<dotut>on latest jessie kernels how do i get netlink support enabled? strace on my program shows: socket(PF_NETLINK, SOCK_RAW, NETLINK_CRYPTO) = -1 EPROTONOSUPPORT (Protocol not supported)
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19:35<somiaj>2) determine what is going on to cause so many log messages. Might be more an hardware issue with it assoicating/deassoicating with an AP as opposed to wpa_supplicant.
19:35<drafz>no hardware issue so far
19:35<drafz>it's more related to wpa_supplicant job
19:35<drafz>just want to /dev/null it
19:36<somiaj>dotut: you first ask that question in #debian-next. You can check which config options were used on debian kernels in /boot/config-kernel_ver -- this way you can see if the kernel supports those config options or not
19:36<dotut>somiaj: ok ill try that now..thanks
19:36<somiaj>drafz: then do it, it will require either changing the way you bring up your interface or modifing the actual scripts debian uses. I personally suggest you figure out why it is being so noisy and fix the underlaying issue.
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19:37<drafz>remind me how to send a PM on irc ?
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19:38<drafz>somiaj okay
19:38<somiaj>drafz: depends on the client, but /msg usually. And it is coutosy to not send private messages but ask first. I do not need one and prefer to keep conversations in public
19:39<drafz>understood
19:40<drafz>i tried to follow debian script for interface related to wpa
19:40<somiaj>it is probabaly in /etc/network/ifup.d or ifdown.d
19:41<drafz>i ended in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/wpa_supplicant.conf
19:41<drafz>still related to verbosity in syslog ...
19:42<drafz>frak
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19:49<drafz>i want to replace '/sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -s -O /run/wpa_supplicant' by '§sbin/wpa_supplicant -u -f -O/run/wpa_supplicant'
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19:50<somiaj>drafz: you could manually bring up your device (maybe write a custom script
19:50<somiaj>drafz: and then not use the debian ifup/down scripts and this way they are preserved and you achive your goal
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19:51<drafz>thx somiaj, but first i need to spot it ..... and after write the script ,
19:52<drafz>okay, i heard , it's a 'feature" of debian
19:52<drafz>why not after all
19:52<drafz>all that ...
19:52<drafz>join me on fuckyourself
19:53<drafz>:-P
19:54<abrotman>...
19:55<drafz>....
19:55<drafz>:P
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20:02<drafz>centrx , dont know what she want
20:02<drafz>lesbian forever
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20:02<drafz>;D
20:03<drafz>screenshot for the instant
20:03<drafz>centrex your advice about debian wpa_supplicant behaviour ?
20:04<drafz>you speak anglais ???
20:05<drafz>crunchbang rocks
20:05<drafz>didnt know slim login gui
20:05*enyc blinks
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20:21<abrotman>drafz: Do you need help with Debian?
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20:22<drafz>abrotman : yes
20:23<drafz>syn
20:23<drafz>*c
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20:26<drafz>it's cold here
20:26<drafz>holy shit
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20:27<drafz>france , between the 2 ass
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20:28<drafz>deimos miss you guy
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20:36<abrotman>drafz: please go play elsewhere, thanks
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