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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-12-13

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00:20<hieu>hello every one
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02:00<a>hi
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02:01<Guest1589>h
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02:15<sleser>guys did i use the rite command to create a bootable usb ? for some reason it created the usb but it wont boot in to it . in bios setings usb 1st . : dd if=/home/sleser/Downloads/debian-live-7.7.0-amd64-kde-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdc1 bs=1M
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02:50<linuxator>how to set time to UTC?
02:52<valdyn>linuxator: https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime
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02:57<linuxator>valdyn, ok,thanx
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03:59<samttcourt>Hi. I've a problem of sound on motherboard Asus Z97 and Debian Wheezy with 3.2.0-amd64 kernel. I've read this problem could come from the kernel : I've to update it. I prefer do not compil a new kernel but to install an official Kernel, from the Debian kernel Team. I've see a package linux-image-amd64_3.16+63~bpo70+1_amd64.deb, but if I try the command line apt-get install linux-image-amd64_3.16+63~bpo70+1_amd64.deb, the
03:59<samttcourt>Terminal says "can not find the package"
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04:06<ectospasm>samttcourt: install a kernel from backpots
04:07<ectospasm>!dpkg tell samttcourt -about backports
04:07<ectospasm>*backports
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04:16<catern>mmm, i'm beginning to think the debian approach of enabling daemons by default on install was technically incorrect
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04:18<catern>http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/196234/focus=196320
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04:20<abbe>samttcourt: enable backports repository, since that kernel is in backports, and then "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64" which will pull that kernel and install it.
04:21<abbe>http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
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04:29<samttcourt>ok I'me trying it
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04:38<tonda>cau
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04:38<tonda> ljdsfgoij spoipgfpo=žzlfdv úéi th57484fgh87fdghs978gvb
04:39<tonda> iso lkůdf578 USB ISO iojidf65cgh4fg548fd7
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05:04<petrol>Hi, i'm trying to setup plymouth splashscreen, i did everythig as was written in wiki, but i've got three dots in the midle of the screen instead of selected theme. I'm using sid with integrated itels graphics card
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05:31<petrol>Do you know what can cause this problem
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05:46<anyonebutme>Hi... so i was here a few days ago... (i can't remember what nick i used)
05:46<anyonebutme>i complained that the permissions on the home directory was wrong.
05:47<anyonebutme>I fixed it
05:47<anyonebutme>and it's broken again
05:47<anyonebutme>ie /home/lala looks like drwxr-xr-x
05:47<anyonebutme>at this point i have to suspect foul play
05:48<anyonebutme>the question is... is there a way, using inotify and or lsof to see which process is changing the permissions?
05:52<Brigo>anyonebutme, i have the some permissions in my home.
05:52<anyonebutme>but that can't be right!
05:53<Brigo>:)
05:54<Brigo>why not? everybody can read, but only you can write.
05:55<anyonebutme>well... mostly because i changed it only a few days ago.
05:56<anyonebutme>also, i don't want guest to be able to see anything in my home
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05:58<Brigo>anyonebutme, sorry, but you cannot achieve that. Programs need to reach your home directory for read your configuration, and for writing
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06:01<anyonebutme>wow! afaik only programs i run should be accessing my home... i don't have anything that should access anything in my home not run by me.
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06:02<anyonebutme>so i guess my only option is to remove read permissions from everything in my home for group/other
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06:31<Andy>I'd like to update my "gnome 3" from Wheezy to the new 3.14 version
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06:32<Andy>anyone know how I'd go about doing so without updating EVERYTHING?
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06:36<anyonebutme>Andy: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_tracking_literal_testing_literal_with_some_packages_from_literal_unstable_literal
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06:38<Andy>anyonebutme: thanks
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06:45<adelaide>hello guys
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06:46<theocrite>Any idea why I see 4*2Go DIMM but I can only use 3.3Go ? http://paste.debian.net/136335
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06:47<devil>theocrite: you use 32-bit distro
06:48<devil>and what is Go?
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06:49<theocrite>devil: nope I use a full AMD64 distro (that's what puzzles me).
06:49<devil>makes no sense
06:49<devil>show uname -a
06:49<theocrite>And I meant GB (Go = Giga octet, French for Giga Byte).
06:50<anyonebutme>memory test maybe?
06:50<devil>show uname -a
06:50<theocrite>Linux pascal 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-2 (2014-11-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux
06:50<devil>3.3 is the exact limit that 32-bit has
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06:50<theocrite>anyonebutme: I did, and it's ok. But anyways they are brand new dimms.
06:50<devil>so that is very strange, and I have no clue
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06:51<devil>where do you see that output?
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06:51<devil>can we see the output of top or htop in a pastebin?
06:51<anyonebutme>is there such a thing as "large memory support module"? i have vague memory of it being a thing
06:52<devil>anyonebutme: there is pae kernel
06:52<devil>but that is different
06:53<devil>erm, make that top, not htop :)
06:54<devil>you can also jusat paste the line with MEM in here
06:54<devil>now would be a good time
06:55<valdyn>he noticed he misread
06:55<valdyn>(probably)
06:56<theocrite>Here is the output of top : http://paste.debian.net/136336
06:56<theocrite>I can't paste htop.
06:56<devil>I know :9
06:56<devil>my bad
06:56<theocrite>copy/paste won't work and if piped there are too much noise
06:56<theocrite>No worries. :)
06:57<valdyn>theocrite: see your bios and the memory counter on bootup
06:57<theocrite>For what it worth Windows 7 (64 bis) suffers from the same limitation. So I thought it might be some sort of bios limitation.
06:57<theocrite>But I don't see any option.
06:57<devil>yep, bad seating or the like
06:58<theocrite>The only thing I see in the bios is that all memory is here.
06:58<theocrite>:$
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06:58<devil>very strange
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06:58<valdyn>theocrite: if all memory is there and windows 64 has the same issue, then its not a debian thing for sure
06:58<valdyn>theocrite: maybe your bios has a setting to limit the ram
06:58<theocrite>devil: yeah it has been frustrating me the past 2 weeks.
06:59<devil>the funny thing is the 3.3. so it must be a setting somewhere
06:59<theocrite>valdyn: I didn't find anything (and it's not like there are thousands of bios settings) but I'll check again just to be sure.
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07:00<theocrite>Well thanks for the help guys. It's always good to have another one take a look at an issue (just to be sure I didn't forget something or I wasn't doing something stupid)
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07:49<wieczorek1990>Hey guys I did a change in sources.list to point to sid, and my lsb_release -a shows jessie code name, though I have sid packages
07:49<wieczorek1990>on my last setup it was sid
07:49<Infiltrator>wieczorek1990: Did you actually update and upgrade after editing sources.list?
07:50<wieczorek1990>yes and dist-upgrade
07:50<wieczorek1990>and this:
07:50<wieczorek1990>luke@T410:~$ dpkg -s gnome-shell | grep VersionVersion: 3.14.2-3
07:50<wieczorek1990>that's a sid package
07:50<Infiltrator>wieczorek1990: What about lsb-release's version, though?
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07:51<Infiltrator>I don't think that lsb_release actually looks at your packages; I think that it's part of the lsb-release package itself.
07:51<Infiltrator>(Or maybe lsb-base.)
07:52<wieczorek1990>lol it says not installed
07:52<wieczorek1990>and I can run it
07:52<Infiltrator>wieczorek1990: `which lsb_release`?
07:52<wieczorek1990> /usr/bin/lsb_release
07:52<towo`>the codename jessie is correct
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07:53<towo`>it will change after the freeze with the release of jessie
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07:53<Infiltrator>^ I keep forgetting about that.
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07:53<wieczorek1990>hmm lsb_release is just a python script
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07:54<wieczorek1990>As I said it was Sid on my previous install
07:54<wieczorek1990>Maybe I changed it manually?
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07:54<Infiltrator>That or it was a bug?
07:55<wieczorek1990>Guys there's like no security, updates, backports in unstable right?
07:56<Infiltrator>If you mean the equivelant of those repos, then no.
07:56<wieczorek1990>Other question: how do I download something form the "pool"?
07:56<wieczorek1990>from*
07:57<Infiltrator>wieczorek1990: "pool"?
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07:57<wieczorek1990>http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/
07:58<towo`>why you would want that?
07:58<devil>wieczorek1990: i run sid for ages and it points to jessie right now
07:58<towo`>apt-get is downloading from that "pool"
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07:58<wieczorek1990>like once I needed a package and it wasn't available in main, contrib, non-free for sid
07:58<towo`>wieczorek1990, then it is not in "pool"
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07:59<towo`>or it is a old version and then it would not make sense to download it
07:59<wieczorek1990>is sid just a link to unstable?
07:59<Brigo>wieczorek1990, yes
07:59<wieczorek1990>does it make any difference in sources.list?
07:59<devil>wieczorek1990: sid is the codename to unstable, and it always stay the same
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08:00<wieczorek1990>hmm I get it at a new release it will change
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08:02<wieczorek1990>Do you guys keep etc on git? :D
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08:03<wieczorek1990>like now I have a backup directory on Dropbox and a symlinking script
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08:12<wieczorek1990>How many of you guys are Debian Mainatainers?
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08:13*devil has other things to maintain
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08:14<devil>wieczorek1990: sid never changes, it's been sid for ages, the reason is that is is not released ever
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08:14<devil>the others change of course
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08:15<wieczorek1990>ok thanks devil
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08:17<wieczorek1990>Hey guys do you have something like a package list you install on your desktop at fresh install? Here's mine: https://gist.github.com/wieczorek1990/0eefb60d26f1364acfc3
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08:19<devil>no list. as soon as I miss something, i install it
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08:32<wieczorek1990>does sudo apt-get --purge autoremove always uninstall all releated packages (like those that were installed with the base package and nothing else depends on it)?
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08:32<wieczorek1990>there's deborphan too
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09:21<hozs>hh
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09:21<hozs>It's my first time to use it!
09:22<hozs>Feeling excited.
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09:29<hozs>is there anybody?
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09:30<towo`>no
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09:30<Brigo>hozs, this is the debian support channel, welcome. If you have a question just ask, if only want to chat, please join #debian-offtopic channel.
09:31*mitrom hides
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09:31<hozs>i see,thanks
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09:46<jaggid>how do you make an asus bios flashback usb from within linux?
09:46<ary>Hi
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09:48<palackan>heyy
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09:48<ary>I have a problem. I installed Debian 7 on my computer, but my video doesn'n load gnome 3. I did a search and discovered that my drivers are not installed. How do I solve this problem?
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09:51<palackan>reinstall debian
09:51<palackan>or try to reload
09:52<ary>the vcard is an Integrated ATI Radeon 3000
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09:52<mtn>ary: start with the debian wiki section on graphics
09:52<mtn>ary: or in this case, the wiki about ati
09:53<ary>mtn, I try that.
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09:54<ary>found that: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#wheezy
09:55<ary>acording to this the last drivers for my Vcard is for Debian 6
09:57<dronar>Hi everyone, I was wondering if there is some kind of limit on http-requests on localhost and if there is; how do I check/edit it? I have two applications talking to eachother and sometimes the requests just disappear.
09:58<dronar>It may be a long shot, but I've stared at the code for too long and I can't find anything wrong there :/
09:58<valdyn>dronar: your localhost does not even know http
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09:58<valdyn>dronar: but your 2 programs talk http?
09:58<dronar>ok, is there any limit in the TCP layer then?
09:58<dronar>yes, they are nodejs applications
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09:59<valdyn>dronar: so maybe this is a bug in your js
09:59<valdyn>dronar: or in nodejs
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10:00<valdyn>dronar: sockets block till they are served
10:00<valdyn>dronar: meaning there very well may be a maximum but your program just stops, it does not just silently lose packets
10:01<valdyn>dronar: not *your* program, but whatever library does the networking part for your nodejs
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10:02<dronar>hmm, so maybe the sockets are not closed properly... How can I the currently active sockets?
10:02<valdyn>dronar: with netstat or ss
10:03<dronar>ah, great
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10:03<dronar>thank you :)
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11:52<gordon24>Has anyone had their keyboard work through boot up but something is lagging it so bad you have to push buttons repeatedly till it shows up.. Its been doing this the last few boot ups. it works fine once I can ever get my password in.
11:52<gordon24>I'll get to the log in screen and it does this.
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12:18<EmleyMoor>What's a good program that's in Debian for playing a local collection of flac and mp3 files? (other than Amarok)
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12:24<awal>EmleyMoor, I recommend you 'cmus'. or 'ocp' (opencubic player) if you want soemthing more powerful
12:25<awal>audacious too
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12:27<EmleyMoor>awal: I'll look at those. About to give audacious a go. Amarok is nice but heavy and has at least one bug that will be awkward to fix in wheezy
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12:39<awal>xmms2 is great too; look for frontend ui if needed
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13:11<faheem>EmleyMoor: mplayer and vlc are both well known multi format players
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13:13<zeev>Hi, I've just extended my root LV with lvextend /dev/vg0/root /dev/sdb ; lvs shows the right size (together with /dev/sdb), bud df -h shows the old size (even after rebooting). why? (what I did to /dev/sdb was: pvcreate /dev/sdb ; vgextend vg0 /dev/sdb ). Thank you!
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13:15<Apollo>zeev: you need to extend your partition as well
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13:16<zeev>Apollo: how?
13:16<Apollo>whats the partitiontype?
13:16<zeev>Apollo: ext4
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13:17<Apollo>resize2fs
13:19<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... clementine seems to have the same bug as amarok
13:20<zeev>Apollo: how do I tell him to resize /dev/vg0/root to take the whole space of the LV?
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13:21<ixi>EmleyMoor mpv is a good player
13:21<EmleyMoor>zeev: If you don't specify a size, that's what it does.
13:21<ixi>for both audio and video
13:21<ixi>it has no gui though
13:22<zeev>EmleyMoor: thank you. Is there a way to extend a LV and resize the partition at the same time with lvconvert?
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13:23<EmleyMoor>Not with lvcosvert, but personal experience with lvextend shows the -r option to work...
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13:23<EmleyMoor>Not with lvconvert, that should say
13:24<zeev>thank you!
13:24<EmleyMoor>As with anything related to filesystems, I'm not taking responsibility for data loss, spilled coffee or your cat exploding. <g>
13:24<zeev>:)
13:25<zeev>what is better way - the -r option or resize2fs?
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13:26<EmleyMoor>zeev: resize2fs is the more trustworthy I think, but -r has done me no harm recently
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13:34<zeev>EmleyMoor: how much time should it take for resize2fs to accommodate 1.82T?
13:34<zeev>I ran resize2fs /dev/vg0/root and takes time...
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13:36<EmleyMoor>I really can't say.
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13:37<EmleyMoor>Is that a very big increase?
13:38<zeev>x2
13:38<zeev>exactyl
13:38<zeev>exactly doubled
13:39<zeev>Filesystem at /dev/vg0/root is mounted on /; on-line resizing required
13:39<zeev>old_desc_blocks = 116, new_desc_blocks = 232
13:40<zeev>Performing an on-line resize of /dev/vg0/root to 972430336 (4k) blocks.
13:40<EmleyMoor>I've never done an online resize
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13:56<zeev>Still no signs of resizing coming to an end... (1) was this the right command: resize2fs /dev/vg0/root? (2) can lvextend -r do online resizing?
13:57<EmleyMoor>zeev: (1) Yes. (2) Don't know.
13:58<zeev>thanks
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14:01<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... this "Amarok bug" is nothing of the sort. I've got a flac file, 2:36 long, mplayer plays it just fine. Amarok, clementine and banshee all cut it at 30 seconds
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14:06<EmleyMoor>Is there any good place to get support with a flac file problem?
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14:24<Xylon>firefox is complaining about outdated flash
14:24<Xylon>iceweasel even
14:26<ompaul>Xylon: that's correct
14:26<sney>there should be an update-flashplugin-nonfree that you can run to update the plugin
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14:28<EmleyMoor>Ah - problem is in gstreamer - switched to vlc backend and the file now plays right through.
14:28<tuxampol>update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
14:28<ary>Hi. I have 2 linux system on my PC. How do I put both to boot on Grub? The system booting is Debian.
14:29<Xylon>I already did that but I didn't restart iceweasel, fixed now
14:29<Xylon>thank!
14:29<sney>ary: run 'update-grub' as root and it should detect your other linux install
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14:31<ary>thankyou
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14:34<EmleyMoor>Which part of gstreamer deals with flac files?
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14:58<Rastus_Vernon>Is something wrong with changelogs.debian.net?
14:59<Rastus_Vernon>For any package, it shows me that an error happened (302 Found, which isn't actually an error…) when it attempted to retrieve the changelog and it gives a link that works very well to the text changelog.
14:59<Rastus_Vernon>For example: http://changelogs.debian.net/apt
15:00<Rastus_Vernon>Replace "apt" by the name of any package and you should get the same result.
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17:01<mawrick>Anyone experienced fullscreen problems playing youtube videos on iceweasel and firefox ? (I have them both installed - firefox was pulled from mint repo), and I see I can only use one of them at the time, but fullscreen videos in both are going "fullscreen" - but only the midle of screen is used for the video and the controls, fullscreen works fine in other browsers
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17:12<mauriz>ciao
17:13<mauriz>list
17:14<mauriz>ddd
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17:32<anonymous>Hello
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18:08<kingsley>FYI: http://www.eejournal.com/archives/articles/20141210-risc-v/
18:09<kingsley>Berkeley’s RISC-V Wants to Be Free
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18:59<george>sup
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19:05<BlackDragon42>Hello.
19:05<Crusher>helo
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19:08<BlackDragon42>How is the world of Debin today?
19:08<BlackDragon42>Debian
19:08<devil>black
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19:08<BlackDragon42>Why so?
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19:09<devil>your wings are blending out the sun
19:09<BlackDragon42>LOL
19:10<BlackDragon42>Pretty quiet day here...
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19:11<BlackDragon42>I guess that's a good thing. No immediate problems.
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19:32<chaosflaws>hey guys, I am installing debian atm and I'd like some advice on setting up my network connection.
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19:33<chaosflaws>my computer is connected to a server via Layer3-Switches
19:33<chaosflaws>they do some config stuff and there is a web interface to configure your internet access
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19:34<chaosflaws>I'd like to know what the best way is to configure these settings using a browser
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19:37<devil>best ways?
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19:38<chaosflaws>probably best ways, yes
19:38<devil>what kind of an answer are you expecting?
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19:39<devil>we do not know the interface you see
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19:40<chaosflaws>it's the graphical installer in expert mode (had some trouble earlier)
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19:41<devil>... and there is a web interface to configure your internet access...
19:41<chaosflaws>yes
19:42<chaosflaws>I mean, I am really asking for ways to open a browser to do the necessary configuration steps
19:42<chaosflaws>there's no client side config needed, just an authentification method
19:42<devil>I have no idea, never use d-i
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20:40<js_doode>hello folks. I've installed Debian wheezy on an hp mini 110 netbook.
20:40<js_doode>I'm having trouble with the NIC. It is an Atheros AR8132 adapter and the drivers for it were not installed.
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21:04<maurom>hi js_doode, I think that card is supported via the atl1c module in the current wheezy kernel
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22:01<sleser>guys is this the rite command to create live usb stick ? dd if=/home/sleser/Downloads/debian-live-7.7.0-amd64-kde-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdc1 oflag=direct bs=1048576
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22:07<maurom>sleser, are you sure your usb stick is /dev/sdc1 and that it is empty?
22:08<sleser>yes
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22:08<sleser>that command didnt make me a bootable disk it just puted debian inside it
22:08<maurom>right, I think that's because it is trying to copy the image to the first partition (sdc1)
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22:09<maurom>whereas it should be copied from the start of the disk, as in dd if=whichever.iso of=/dev/sdc
22:09<sleser>so dont use the 1 sufix ?
22:10<sleser>fdisk -l only shows me a sdc1 dosnt show nothing on sdc there is no sdc
22:10<maurom>1 means "copy to the first partition", while no number means "the entire disk"
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22:10<sleser>i got you let me try this
22:11<maurom>but, as always, be careful and double check when specifying devices
22:12<sleser>i did chek the usb stick is in fdisk is sdc1
22:12<sleser>ill test after write is finished
22:13<maurom>ok, you should do "sync" before you unplug the usb stick, just in case
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22:14<sleser>after writing . b4 puling it out sync it ?
22:14<maurom>yep
22:14<sleser>ok
22:15<sleser>sudo sync /dev/sdc ?
22:16<maurom>no need of device
22:16<maurom>just sudo sync
22:16<sleser>fine
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22:21<sleser>maurom it worked thanks
22:22<maurom>sleser, no prob, you're welcome
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